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Re: BU-- PLEASE WATCH THIS VID.

Sun Aug 11, 2013 10:55 am

ChiChi wrote:Re the You tube link.

This is an embarrassment. Step back and get some perspective.

What are you looking to achieve with this march?

You need to ask yourself 2 important questions what's going to be gained by doing this?

Is this going to benefit the club?

Just let it go its a small price to pay for club stability and us being in the premiership. I do question the character and intelligence of anyone who is still wasting energy on this topic.


Yes it will benefit the club, because the discord created by the rebrand, and the totally mixed branding the club now has is damaging. Without question, we'd be better if Tan can be convinced to get us back to blue, which has to be the aim.

What was your second question?

Re: BU-- PLEASE WATCH THIS VID.

Sun Aug 11, 2013 11:55 am

So many holes in that video, I won't even bother to go through them.

At the end he says now is the time....... Well no that was last year.

Re: BU-- PLEASE WATCH THIS VID.

Sun Aug 11, 2013 12:05 pm

2blue2handle wrote:So many holes in that video, I won't even bother to go through them.

At the end he says now is the time....... Well no that was last year.


nail on the head

Re: BU-- PLEASE WATCH THIS VID.

Sun Aug 11, 2013 12:13 pm

lj1985 wrote:
Bakedalasker wrote:
lj1985 wrote:
taffy123 wrote:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mY5UVv6LedQ CCFC :ayatollah: :ayatollah: :ayatollah: :thumbup: :wave:

How :oops: for you lot, tan does not give a shite about what you lot think he see's you as customer's not fans.


As much as I hate what Tan has done the comforting factor about it all is that it has got to a bitter Jack like yourself.

Take away the politics of it all and what you have is an emergence of a football club that is going to be big. All that was required for this club to become big was a serious investor. That now is in place and that is what is eating into individuals like yourself.

Why would it eat into me after all Swansea are already a PL club and last week i saw my club play in Europe, the first welsh club to represent England. And it's only cardiff fans who think cardiff is or will be big, on my travels to malmo spoke to a danish guy who asked me if any other welsh clubs had played in the PL, when i told him cardiff will be there next season he told me he had never heard of them and that is true.. :laughing6:


So you wasn't with the other jacks hiding in a pub waiting for a police escort so you could get past Malmo's lads :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

Re: BU-- PLEASE WATCH THIS VID.

Sun Aug 11, 2013 12:16 pm

2blue2handle wrote:So many holes in that video, I won't even bother to go through them.

At the end he says now is the time....... Well no that was last year.


Time for Action. Thought this was a Celebration march not a Protest march?

Re: BU-- PLEASE WATCH THIS VID.

Sun Aug 11, 2013 12:54 pm

Magners wrote:
2blue2handle wrote:So many holes in that video, I won't even bother to go through them.

At the end he says now is the time....... Well no that was last year.


Time for Action. Thought this was a Celebration march not a Protest march?


No idea mate, ill be in the Ivor having a pint thats all I know...oh but I will be wearing my blue top as I have since I started going down :ayatollah: :ayatollah: :ayatollah:

Re: BU-- PLEASE WATCH THIS VID.

Sun Aug 11, 2013 1:28 pm

I may be wrong here, but in that vid a statement was made that it was more about the way the rebrand came about, rather than the actual colour change, least ways that's how I perceived it, so basically people are more annoyed about not being consulted than they are about the red.

Re: BU-- PLEASE WATCH THIS VID.

Sun Aug 11, 2013 1:31 pm

I'm sorry to say this, but I feel that BU members are hurting the group's chances of succeeding by continuing to label other fans within their own groups page.

I support BU & the aims of BU, but its members need to realise that to succeed, it needs to get as many CCFC fans on board as possible & slagging them off isn't doing any favours.

Bluebirds UNITE - currently the fb page is dividing fans even more.

Re: BU-- PLEASE WATCH THIS VID.

Sun Aug 11, 2013 1:51 pm

Andysince76 wrote:I may be wrong here, but in that vid a statement was made that it was more about the way the rebrand came about, rather than the actual colour change, least ways that's how I perceived it, so basically people are more annoyed about not being consulted than they are about the red.


The video sent a lot of confusing messages.
It certainly wasnt thought through very well, maybe I should stop reading things on BU as everytime I do I cant help but think another own goal by them.

Re: BU-- PLEASE WATCH THIS VID.

Sun Aug 11, 2013 1:58 pm

2blue2handle wrote:
Andysince76 wrote:I may be wrong here, but in that vid a statement was made that it was more about the way the rebrand came about, rather than the actual colour change, least ways that's how I perceived it, so basically people are more annoyed about not being consulted than they are about the red.


The video sent a lot of confusing messages.
It certainly wasnt thought through very well, maybe I should stop reading things on BU as everytime I do I cant help but think another own goal by them.


I agree and it's a shame, as I really would support a return to blue, just doesn't sit well with me though.

Re: BU-- PLEASE WATCH THIS VID.

Sun Aug 11, 2013 2:45 pm

It's important that people are fair to the organisation of Bluebirds Unite, and seperate it out from individual people. Same goes when an MP says something controversial, it would be unfair to assume it's party policy, just because one member of that party said something in particular.

I've read on here, some vbery anti-blue stuff, including calling people dinosaurs, blue-tards, idiots etc. I can take it, it makes me think less of the individual, but it doesn't make me think less of everyone else.

Same goes here really. If you want a return to blue, then Bluebirds Unite should be for you, as they are trying to bring together all opinions. It's just unfortunate that people pay attention to those who shout loudest or most controversially.

:ayatollah:

Re: BU-- PLEASE WATCH THIS VID.

Sun Aug 11, 2013 2:57 pm

CardiffKid wrote:It's important that people are fair to the organisation of Bluebirds Unite, and seperate it out from individual people. Same goes when an MP says something controversial, it would be unfair to assume it's party policy, just because one member of that party said something in particular.

I've read on here, some vbery anti-blue stuff, including calling people dinosaurs, blue-tards, idiots etc. I can take it, it makes me think less of the individual, but it doesn't make me think less of everyone else.

Same goes here really. If you want a return to blue, then Bluebirds Unite should be for you, as they are trying to bring together all opinions. It's just unfortunate that people pay attention to those who shout loudest or most controversially.

:ayatollah:

:malky: CCFC :ayatollah: :ayatollah: :ayatollah:

Re: BU-- PLEASE WATCH THIS VID.

Sun Aug 11, 2013 3:07 pm

CardiffKid wrote:It's important that people are fair to the organisation of Bluebirds Unite, and seperate it out from individual people. Same goes when an MP says something controversial, it would be unfair to assume it's party policy, just because one member of that party said something in particular.

I've read on here, some vbery anti-blue stuff, including calling people dinosaurs, blue-tards, idiots etc. I can take it, it makes me think less of the individual, but it doesn't make me think less of everyone else.

Same goes here really. If you want a return to blue, then Bluebirds Unite should be for you, as they are trying to bring together all opinions. It's just unfortunate that people pay attention to those who shout loudest or most controversially.

:ayatollah:


:ayatollah: :malky:

Re: BU-- PLEASE WATCH THIS VID.

Sun Aug 11, 2013 3:52 pm

Barry Chuckle wrote:I'm sorry to say this, but I feel that BU members are hurting the group's chances of succeeding by continuing to label other fans within their own groups page.

I support BU & the aims of BU, but its members need to realise that to succeed, it needs to get as many CCFC fans on board as possible & slagging them off isn't doing any favours.

Bluebirds UNITE - currently the fb page is dividing fans even more.


Chuckles I have to agree with you.

Re: BU-- PLEASE WATCH THIS VID.

Sun Aug 11, 2013 4:03 pm

Magners wrote:
Barry Chuckle wrote:I'm sorry to say this, but I feel that BU members are hurting the group's chances of succeeding by continuing to label other fans within their own groups page.

I support BU & the aims of BU, but its members need to realise that to succeed, it needs to get as many CCFC fans on board as possible & slagging them off isn't doing any favours.

Bluebirds UNITE - currently the fb page is dividing fans even more.


Chuckles I have to agree with you.

so Magners supports BU... :ayatollah: :thumbup:

Re: BU-- PLEASE WATCH THIS VID.

Sun Aug 11, 2013 4:27 pm

Vincent tan is criticised for scaremongering when he decided to do the rebrand yet this video states "what next Cardiff dragons vs hull tigers?" I turned it off after that. BU scaremongering fans into supporting them.

Re: BU-- PLEASE WATCH THIS VID.

Sun Aug 11, 2013 4:36 pm

bluedragons wrote:Vincent tan is criticised for scaremongering when he decided to do the rebrand yet this video states "what next Cardiff dragons vs hull tigers?" I turned it off after that. BU scaremongering fans into supporting them.


I listened a little further, until I heard "maybe it's not about the changes, but how it's been done" direct quote from that vid, so is it about the changes or is it because VT didn't pander to peoples egos, I don't know, however I will say again that is a direct quote, on what I imagine, is an officially sanctioned BU video.

Re: BU-- PLEASE WATCH THIS VID.

Sun Aug 11, 2013 4:58 pm

FFS,

This isn't bloody North Korea, you don't have to analyse the wording od every last statement from the grand organisation committee.

If you want City in blue, then there is no reason not to support Bluebirds Unite.

It's a very broad spectrum of City support...that's the point! DIsagreeing on certain points is not only inevitable, it's a good thing! It shows how diverse the group is..

All different things, united by one thing; A pride in our colours and our bluebird and a desire to help Vincent Tan understand why it means so much to us.

It's not the koran, you don't have to scrutinize every word coming from B.U!

Re: BU-- PLEASE WATCH THIS VID.

Sun Aug 11, 2013 6:15 pm

That video is cringeworthy. And like someone posted saying about hull tigers v Cardiff dragons, what is that about...

Re: BU-- PLEASE WATCH THIS VID.

Sun Aug 11, 2013 6:24 pm

CardiffKid wrote:FFS,

This isn't bloody North Korea, you don't have to analyse the wording od every last statement from the grand organisation committee.

If you want City in blue, then there is no reason not to support Bluebirds Unite.

It's a very broad spectrum of City support...that's the point! DIsagreeing on certain points is not only inevitable, it's a good thing! It shows how diverse the group is..

All different things, united by one thing; A pride in our colours and our bluebird and a desire to help Vincent Tan understand why it means so much to us.

It's not the koran, you don't have to scrutinize every word coming from B.U!


And what's wrong with the Koran,not sure if i like that statement .
I bet you wear chinos don't you.

:ayatollah:

Re: BU-- PLEASE WATCH THIS VID.

Sun Aug 11, 2013 9:38 pm

redordead wrote:
CardiffKid wrote:FFS,

This isn't bloody North Korea, you don't have to analyse the wording od every last statement from the grand organisation committee.

If you want City in blue, then there is no reason not to support Bluebirds Unite.

It's a very broad spectrum of City support...that's the point! DIsagreeing on certain points is not only inevitable, it's a good thing! It shows how diverse the group is..

All different things, united by one thing; A pride in our colours and our bluebird and a desire to help Vincent Tan understand why it means so much to us.

It's not the koran, you don't have to scrutinize every word coming from B.U!


And what's wrong with the Koran,not sure if i like that statement .
I bet you wear chinos don't you.

:ayatollah:


Nothing wrong with the Koran. Could have equally said the bible, or any religious text. I know what you are trying to insinuate, and on this occasion I'll forgive you and not take issue.

Point is that Bluebirds Unite, by definition, is a collection of people made up of a variety of different opinions.

The entire point of it, is that it is for anyone who wants a return to blue, and within that is a wide variety of opinions.

Re: BU-- PLEASE WATCH THIS VID.

Sun Aug 11, 2013 9:44 pm

CardiffKid wrote:
redordead wrote:
CardiffKid wrote:FFS,

This isn't bloody North Korea, you don't have to analyse the wording od every last statement from the grand organisation committee.

If you want City in blue, then there is no reason not to support Bluebirds Unite.

It's a very broad spectrum of City support...that's the point! DIsagreeing on certain points is not only inevitable, it's a good thing! It shows how diverse the group is..

All different things, united by one thing; A pride in our colours and our bluebird and a desire to help Vincent Tan understand why it means so much to us.

It's not the koran, you don't have to scrutinize every word coming from B.U!


And what's wrong with the Koran,not sure if i like that statement .
I bet you wear chinos don't you.

:ayatollah:


Nothing wrong with the Koran. Could have equally said the bible, or any religious text. I know what you are trying to insinuate, and on this occasion I'll forgive you and not take issue.

Point is that Bluebirds Unite, by definition, is a collection of people made up of a variety of different opinions.

The entire point of it, is that it is for anyone who wants a return to blue, and within that is a wide variety of opinions.


What about the chinos?

Re: BU-- PLEASE WATCH THIS VID.

Sun Aug 11, 2013 9:51 pm

redordead wrote:
CardiffKid wrote:
redordead wrote:
CardiffKid wrote:FFS,

This isn't bloody North Korea, you don't have to analyse the wording od every last statement from the grand organisation committee.

If you want City in blue, then there is no reason not to support Bluebirds Unite.

It's a very broad spectrum of City support...that's the point! DIsagreeing on certain points is not only inevitable, it's a good thing! It shows how diverse the group is..

All different things, united by one thing; A pride in our colours and our bluebird and a desire to help Vincent Tan understand why it means so much to us.

It's not the koran, you don't have to scrutinize every word coming from B.U!


And what's wrong with the Koran,not sure if i like that statement .
I bet you wear chinos don't you.

:ayatollah:


Nothing wrong with the Koran. Could have equally said the bible, or any religious text. I know what you are trying to insinuate, and on this occasion I'll forgive you and not take issue.

Point is that Bluebirds Unite, by definition, is a collection of people made up of a variety of different opinions.

The entire point of it, is that it is for anyone who wants a return to blue, and within that is a wide variety of opinions.


What about the chinos?


:lol: :lol:

Re: BU-- PLEASE WATCH THIS VID.

Sun Aug 11, 2013 10:03 pm

redordead wrote:
CardiffKid wrote:
redordead wrote:
CardiffKid wrote:FFS,

This isn't bloody North Korea, you don't have to analyse the wording od every last statement from the grand organisation committee.

If you want City in blue, then there is no reason not to support Bluebirds Unite.

It's a very broad spectrum of City support...that's the point! DIsagreeing on certain points is not only inevitable, it's a good thing! It shows how diverse the group is..

All different things, united by one thing; A pride in our colours and our bluebird and a desire to help Vincent Tan understand why it means so much to us.

It's not the koran, you don't have to scrutinize every word coming from B.U!


And what's wrong with the Koran,not sure if i like that statement .
I bet you wear chinos don't you.

:ayatollah:


Nothing wrong with the Koran. Could have equally said the bible, or any religious text. I know what you are trying to insinuate, and on this occasion I'll forgive you and not take issue.

Point is that Bluebirds Unite, by definition, is a collection of people made up of a variety of different opinions.

The entire point of it, is that it is for anyone who wants a return to blue, and within that is a wide variety of opinions.


What about the chinos?


I tend to wear jeans, shorts or your missus.

;)

Re: BU-- PLEASE WATCH THIS VID.

Sun Aug 11, 2013 10:12 pm

CardiffKid wrote:
redordead wrote:
CardiffKid wrote:
redordead wrote:
CardiffKid wrote:FFS,

This isn't bloody North Korea, you don't have to analyse the wording od every last statement from the grand organisation committee.

If you want City in blue, then there is no reason not to support Bluebirds Unite.

It's a very broad spectrum of City support...that's the point! DIsagreeing on certain points is not only inevitable, it's a good thing! It shows how diverse the group is..

All different things, united by one thing; A pride in our colours and our bluebird and a desire to help Vincent Tan understand why it means so much to us.

It's not the koran, you don't have to scrutinize every word coming from B.U!


And what's wrong with the Koran,not sure if i like that statement .
I bet you wear chinos don't you.

:ayatollah:


Nothing wrong with the Koran. Could have equally said the bible, or any religious text. I know what you are trying to insinuate, and on this occasion I'll forgive you and not take issue.

Point is that Bluebirds Unite, by definition, is a collection of people made up of a variety of different opinions.

The entire point of it, is that it is for anyone who wants a return to blue, and within that is a wide variety of opinions.


What about the chinos?


I tend to wear jeans, shorts or your missus.

;)


missus,please explain.

Re: BU-- PLEASE WATCH THIS VID.

Sun Aug 11, 2013 10:18 pm

Grange End Red wrote:That video is cringeworthy. And like someone posted saying about hull tigers v Cardiff dragons, what is that about...


It's obviously about the fear of VT changing our name and rebranding our club even further. He's already changed our colour and badge and with Hull recently changing their name, it shows VT can do exactly the same if he wishes.

Re: BU-- PLEASE WATCH THIS VID.

Sun Aug 11, 2013 10:32 pm

Tonteg Bluebird wrote:
Grange End Red wrote:That video is cringeworthy. And like someone posted saying about hull tigers v Cardiff dragons, what is that about...


It's obviously about the fear of VT changing our name and rebranding our club even further. He's already changed our colour and badge and with Hull recently changing their name, it shows VT can do exactly the same if he wishes.



And he's also come out publicly and stated there will be no more more rebranding. :roll:

Re: BU-- PLEASE WATCH THIS VID.

Sun Aug 11, 2013 10:35 pm

BigGwynram wrote:
Tonteg Bluebird wrote:
Grange End Red wrote:That video is cringeworthy. And like someone posted saying about hull tigers v Cardiff dragons, what is that about...


It's obviously about the fear of VT changing our name and rebranding our club even further. He's already changed our colour and badge and with Hull recently changing their name, it shows VT can do exactly the same if he wishes.



And he's also come out publicly and stated there will be no more more rebranding. :roll:


correct,just more negativity and scaremongering .

Re: BU-- PLEASE WATCH THIS VID.

Sun Aug 11, 2013 10:35 pm

BigGwynram wrote:
Tonteg Bluebird wrote:
Grange End Red wrote:That video is cringeworthy. And like someone posted saying about hull tigers v Cardiff dragons, what is that about...


It's obviously about the fear of VT changing our name and rebranding our club even further. He's already changed our colour and badge and with Hull recently changing their name, it shows VT can do exactly the same if he wishes.



And he's also come out publicly and stated there will be no more more rebranding. :roll:


Yes but as we all know, VT can say one thing and then do a completely different thing. Anyway, I didn't say VT was going to rebrand us any further in my post did I, hence the "if he wishes" at the end.

Re: BU-- PLEASE WATCH THIS VID.

Sun Aug 11, 2013 10:36 pm

BigGwynram wrote:
Tonteg Bluebird wrote:
Grange End Red wrote:That video is cringeworthy. And like someone posted saying about hull tigers v Cardiff dragons, what is that about...


It's obviously about the fear of VT changing our name and rebranding our club even further. He's already changed our colour and badge and with Hull recently changing their name, it shows VT can do exactly the same if he wishes.



And he's also come out publicly and stated there will be no more more rebranding. :roll:


Thats that sorted then :|

Come on, it's about showing pride in the city, and letting Tan know what it means to us. Not for everyone, but I'm really glad it's going ahead and proud of the City fans who've organised it.

BLUEBIRDS!