" Hull City change club name "

I heard that Fergie once had it in mind to buy the London & Manchester Life Insurance Co and United Assurance Life Insurance company in order to form the Manchester United Insurance Company.

'Ere, what's the difference between a British actuary and a Sicilian actuary? A British actuary can tell you how many people will die next year; a Sicilian actuary can tell you where they live.

Arrivederci!

Another sad day for British football.

Unfortunately, it's the way the modern game at the highest level is going, we at least got a £100 million pound investment for our rebrand

Stripped of our identity and history but its ok, we have money!

Did i say it's ok???? as for our history the last time i looked it was still showing everything we have done and achieved, where has it gone???? whether any of us like it or not, without VT's financial backing, (keeping us out of the high courts, paying hmrc, paying staff on time , making huge amounts of monek available for players etc) this club was finished, dead in the water, YOU need to get your head out of your arse.

Last time I checked our triangle corner flags are red.

see this is why more and more people are joining bu !

see this is why more and more people are joining bu !

And killing Cardiff City FC in the process. Well done.

see this is why more and more people are joining bu !

And killing Cardiff City FC in the process. Well done.

How?

Another sad day for British football.

Another step FORWARD for British Football.

How is changing a name or a colour stepping FORWARD?!

Its moving on from the past, whether we like it or not. soon all Premier League teams will be named this way.

I pray that VT ain't getting any ideas...

He probably already knows the majority will roll over if he changed our name, but for me, that'll be the final nail in the coffin.

Another sad day for British football.

Another step FORWARD for British Football.

How is changing a name or a colour stepping FORWARD?!

Its moving on from the past, whether we like it or not. soon all Premier League teams will be named this way.

Ever thought about taking up fishing?

see this is why more and more people are joining bu !

And killing Cardiff City FC in the process. Well done.

Absolute nonsense!

Its moving on from the past, whether we like it or not. soon all Premier League teams will be named this way.

& how is that taking a step forward?

see this is why more and more people are joining bu !

And killing Cardiff City FC in the process. Well done.

WOW ! IM KILLING MY OWN CLUB NOW , f*cking HELL!!!!!

Football clubs live in the hearts of their supporters. Ultimately, it doesn't matter what they are called or what colours they wear. We may all have preferences, but nothing will sway me away from the team that plays in the city of my birth.

Football clubs live in the hearts of their supporters. Ultimately, it doesn't matter what they are called or what colours they wear. We may all have preferences, but nothing will sway me away from the team that plays in the city of my birth.

How is changing a name or of colour a step forward?!

How?

To paraphrase Upton Sinclair "It is difficult to get a man to understand something when his own personal sense of self-esteem depends on not understanding it."

Well this is now the same old rebrand thread, may as well be locked.

How?

To paraphrase Upton Sinclair "It is difficult to get a man to understand something when his own personal sense of self-esteem depends on not understanding it."

I'll ask again. Instead of giving one of your cryptic answers, give a straight answer.


How are BU killing CCFC?

Least it gives Ben Dudley some amunition to go on one of his rants

Least it gives Ben Dudley some amunition to go on one of his rants

What, the man who calls people sell-outs & then goes and sells his support?

Least it gives Ben Dudley some amunition to go on one of his rants

What, the man who calls people sell-outs & then goes and sells his support?

Would have been hilarious had Hull been the team that bought his support

How?

To paraphrase Upton Sinclair "It is difficult to get a man to understand something when his own personal sense of self-esteem depends on not understanding it."

please explain how me and anybody in bu are killing Cardiff city ?

Football clubs live in the hearts of their supporters. Ultimately, it doesn't matter what they are called or what colours they wear. We may all have preferences, but nothing will sway me away from the team that plays in the city of my birth.

Preferences? It is what we are not just a choice.

I don't think or feel it's gone at all - CCFC feels the same to me and my family as it always has and we've been supporters since the 50s though my first game was in 1997 when I was 9!

First game when you were 9!!! You plastic.

I took my youngest son to his first game when he was 10 months, a pre season friendly away to Aberystwyth.

Unfortunately he'd just started crawling and as we were concentrating on the football he crawled under the advertising boards and was about 2 yards from the pitch before we noticed. Just as well banning orders weren't common place then.

I digress, back to the Hull rebrand. I can't see a problem here but I remember many posters quoting that a name change would be their tipping point.

I could handle Cardiff City Bluebirds but would have great difficulty with Cardiff City Dragons.

Knew it would happen, not even surprised. Some people need to wake up and accept these are the times. It won't be long before Tan tries to call us Cardiff Dragons or something very similar either. America is massive on advertising and brand identity and you only have to look at team names there in all sports - Miami Dolphins, Vancouver Whitecaps, Portland Timbers, Seattle Sounders, etc.

Pretty obvious it would happen here.

How?

To paraphrase Upton Sinclair "It is difficult to get a man to understand something when his own personal sense of self-esteem depends on not understanding it."

please explain how me and anybody in bu are killing Cardiff city ?

I suppose the fella has used the wrong terminology.

But in fairness a lot of people will see BU's Facebook page and basically cringe. Whilst their official line is not to have VT removed, the undercurrent (from FB) is exactly that as they see that as the only route to getting the blue shirt back. That might actually be correct, but it is not the will of the sensible majority of fans who understand we can't go on living beyond our means forever.

So whilst 'killing' is not quite the right word, 'doing the majority of the fans no favours' would be fair comment.

Bad times in the football world.

It certainly is for Hull fans at least we got £100m investment they get a press release.

Least it gives Ben Dudley some amunition to go on one of his rants

What, the man who calls people sell-outs & then goes and sells his support?

Yes! The one who claims to be AMF and so against British football yet used Sky Sports(One of the sole reasons football is like how it is today) to get his point across!

How is changing a name or of colour a step forward?!

Barry, a hundred years ago the forefathers of many of City's fans were illiterate, lived in abject poverty, worked in heavy industry, never took holidays abroad, didn't have inside toilets, or own radios, telephones, televisions, watches or cars.

Nowadays the typical City fan might find themselves sitting in an airport departure lounge with their feet up sipping your cappuccino and while waiting for their flight to be called, posting messages to this very forum from their iPad. Times have changed, Barry.

This year association football celebrates its 150th anniversary. In those 150 years football itself has changed out of all recognition. You think you know football, do you? Here is an extract from a presentation I put together for John Deakin at the FAW in January which he presented at the IFAB meeting in Edinburgh in March (John is a former English top flight referee).

Ebenezer Cobb Morley
• The FA first met in October 1863.
• The first secretary was Ebenezer Cobb Morley, a solicitor by profession.
• Morley enjoyed among other sports rowing, and founded the Barnes and Mortlake Regatta
• Morley lived to the age of 93. He is buried in an abandoned graveyard in Barnes, London, near the site of rock musician Marc Bolan’s death.
• Cobb Morley drafted the first rules of Association Football at a meeting of the FA at the Freemason’s Tavern in Covent Garden on 8th December 1863.

Football Associations
• The world’s first football association was the FA formed in 1863.
• The second was the Scottish Football Association founded in 1873.
• The third was the Football Association of Wales founded in 1876.
• The fourth was the Irish Football Association founded in 1880.
• International Football Association Board was formed in 1886 with the four British Home Nations was its founding members.
• FIFA was founded in 1904. The four British Home Nations did not join upon its formation.
• FIFA chose to abide by the Laws set by IFAB.
• The FA joined FIFA in 1905.
• The Scottish and Welsh FAs joined FIFA in 1910.
• The Irish FA joined FIFA in 1911
• FIFA was admitted to IFAB in 1913, 50 years after the formation of the FA.

Laws of the Game
•1863 – First Laws written at a meeting of the FA at the Freemason’s Tavern, Covent Garden. These rules banned the carrying of the ball (distinguishing association football from Rugby Football) and the wearing of boots with protruding nails.
•1863 – The pitch resembled nothing more than an open field with four corner flags and two sets of goal posts. There were no pitch markings, no crossbars, no nets.
•1872 – Introduction of the crossbar.
•1882 – Introduction of boundary markings.
•1887 – Introduction of the goal keeper’s area (a dotted line painted across the pitch 18 yards from the goal line).
•1891 – Introduction of the penalty area.
•1891 – Centre spot and centre circle (10 yards radius).
•1891 – Goal nets introduced.
•1902 – Penalty area shrunk to present size.
•1937 – Penalty area ‘D’ introduced (10 yards radius, same as centre circle).
•1993 – The Technical Area introduced.
•Also between 1890 and 1899 rules introduced limiting the number of players per team to eleven and games to 90 minutes in length.

Evolution of Pitch Markings









You've had it spelt out to you Barry, the game is not fixed and constant the way you would have people believe. It changes all the time, it evolves with time. You can see John in this photo with Sepp Blatter at the IFAB meeting in Glasgow in October last year.



Sepp Blatter is in the front row, fourth from the left, John is just peering out from behind the man front row, second from the right. Here's is IFAB's website so you can keep up with developments, or are you going to form a protest group about them too?

http://www.fifa.com/aboutfifa/organisation/ifab/index.html

So, again... How is changing a colour &/or name taking the club forward?

Plus, how are BU "killing" CCFC?

:o In fairness tho at least they have a slightly better deal than us, at least they will get to keep their colour & nickname really could be a lot worse

You can change the colours of a club all day long. The name of the club is by far the most important. That is the identity. It's Cardiff City with the history. If it got changed to Cardiff Dragons, it would be completely different.

Would you rather have the club change name, or meaningless colours? We still got our nickname anyway.

Don't care, they're still Hull City to me.

So, again... How is changing a colour &/or name taking the club forward?

Plus, how are BU "killing" CCFC?

Its not Barry. You and I know that and so do the Tan apologists.

BU killing CCFC, stupid statement from someone losing the argument. Lets turn this around. Thanks to BU we still have the Bluebird in blue.