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Re: ' This bluebirds unite march against Man City '

Tue Aug 06, 2013 8:46 am

Wayne S wrote:Don't worry about it, freedom of speech and all that. The idea IS to get noticed. We have a right to peacefully celebrate our rightful colour.

Everyone knows what we are fighting for and we are aware of the consequences should Tan want to leave. We have to be happy with all consequences.

Tan has only once mentioned this countries right to free speech and it obviously doesn't sit right with him. He is used to the very submissive reaction of his employees and customers in Malaysia.


Hmmm that's ever so slightly racist and discriminatory. But hey!

Plus I think you've made the point of the op perfectly. You are aware of the consequences and are willing to accept them. The vast majority are aware also but are more than happy with the way things are and are willing to accept the deal. Its you tiny minority who want to risk ruining it for the rest of us by behaving like self righteous spoilt brats.

Re: This bluebirds unite march against man city

Tue Aug 06, 2013 8:48 am

Tony Blue Williams wrote:
I'm sick to death of hearing spoilt individuals crying their eyes out because the majority won't follow their bloody minded lead and cause untold damage to CCFC. It's time for them to understand that whatever their feelings are about 'lost' identity :roll: the vast majority of fans don't hold the same view and they can't bully or cry their eyes out to get their own stupid idiotic MINORITY way.


& I'm sick to death of hearing Tan apologists like you claim to want blue back, yet ridicule and abuse anyone who tries to do anything to get it back. :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll:

Re: ' This bluebirds unite march against Man City '

Tue Aug 06, 2013 8:49 am

I hope Tan is offended, and leaves our once great club. You sell outs should be ashamed of yourselves!
How far is too far?

Re: ' This bluebirds unite march against Man City '

Tue Aug 06, 2013 8:49 am

Vincent Tan: "If I leave, I'll leave this club in good hands."

:lol:

Re: ' This bluebirds unite march against Man City '

Tue Aug 06, 2013 8:50 am

Forever Blue wrote:
Tony Blue Williams wrote:
Forever Blue wrote:
Tony, they are not damaging our club, they are keeping the BLUE alive. You will always get pockets who can sometimes get out of control. Sian is trying her best to keep everyone well behaved and has warned people no abuse.
You have said its a democratic world.
I don't agree with fans wearing the red and I am stunned and hurt that they do, but that's what they want to do.
Tan will do what he wants anyway.

Everyone does things in their own way, for now I prefer to just continue to wear my BLUE with pride, :thumbup:


I hope Sian can control them but history has proved that will be very difficult to do. Honestly I can see no good coming from this.

I controlled 3,000 when we marched against the Riddler Tony, not one bad incident, infant we got praise from the media. :thumbup:


I was on that march Annis and yes it was well marshalled although from what I remember BigGwyn played a huge part in that, not sure if he will be helping on this one. Also you had huge good will on that march because their was a clear injustice being committed against the club. BU won't have anything like the same good will this time.

Re: ' This bluebirds unite march against Man City '

Tue Aug 06, 2013 8:50 am

The best way to 'celebrate' blue, is staying behind after matches at least for 15mins and start chanting we'll always be blue. As long as it doesn't spill into the match the players a shouldn't be effected and the cameras will still be there. This is something I would support and find a lot more realistic as most of those joining on Facebook are plastics who go to 4 games per year. This way we'd find out how much of our real support want blue.

Re: ' This bluebirds unite march against Man City '

Tue Aug 06, 2013 8:52 am

I think it could be more than a taxi full :lol: but less than a thousand.

If it is a celebration then presumably there will be no chants such as 'tan out' and other songs that could be deemed offensive? I hope not!

Bluebirds Unite has all the potential of an excellent group that could achieve its aims. Unfortunately the members are slightly too vociferous and could come across as intimidating.

I don't mind the march going ahead as long as it doesn't detract from the football, which I doubt it will.

The most annoying thing about this is that they go on about history pride and identity but ask them to march for Wales and the welsh language and most of them would tell you to 'f*** off' (as they tend to do).

Good post! :ayatollah: :malky:

Re: This bluebirds unite march against man city

Tue Aug 06, 2013 8:52 am

Barry Chuckle wrote:
Tony Blue Williams wrote:
I'm sick to death of hearing spoilt individuals crying their eyes out because the majority won't follow their bloody minded lead and cause untold damage to CCFC. It's time for them to understand that whatever their feelings are about 'lost' identity :roll: the vast majority of fans don't hold the same view and they can't bully or cry their eyes out to get their own stupid idiotic MINORITY way.


& I'm sick to death of hearing Tan apologists like you claim to want blue back, yet ridicule and abuse anyone who tries to do anything to get it back. :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll:


I thought I was on your ignore list (Another Chuckles lie) :lol: :roll: When I refer to spoilt and bloody minded individuals guess who I think of first ;)

Re: ' This bluebirds unite march against Man City '

Tue Aug 06, 2013 8:54 am

Don't worry. Even though he will try to use it for proganda he's a big boy. The march is about who Cardiff City are. Mr Tan is seeking to sanitise us into a Malaysian commodity which I object to.

StT.

Re: This bluebirds unite march against man city

Tue Aug 06, 2013 8:55 am

Tony Blue Williams wrote:
I thought I was on your ignore list (Another Chuckles lie) :lol: :roll: When I refer to spoilt and bloody minded individuals guess who I think of first ;)


You are, you fool. There's an option to view posts & I knew that your posts would contain insults towards those who stand up for what they believe in, unlike Alan apologists like yourself, "Blue". :laughing6:

Re: ' This bluebirds unite march against Man City '

Tue Aug 06, 2013 8:55 am

Not being funny i know quite a few who were going to march,but 1 at a time they are coming around to what tan has done for our club,rebrand apart.Like it or not tan has done wonders here,and i hope people just wear blue but dont march,could do a lot of harm imo

Re: ' This bluebirds unite march against Man City '

Tue Aug 06, 2013 8:55 am

Tony Blue Williams wrote:
Forever Blue wrote:
Tony Blue Williams wrote:
Forever Blue wrote:
Tony, they are not damaging our club, they are keeping the BLUE alive. You will always get pockets who can sometimes get out of control. Sian is trying her best to keep everyone well behaved and has warned people no abuse.
You have said its a democratic world.
I don't agree with fans wearing the red and I am stunned and hurt that they do, but that's what they want to do.
Tan will do what he wants anyway.

Everyone does things in their own way, for now I prefer to just continue to wear my BLUE with pride, :thumbup:


I hope Sian can control them but history has proved that will be very difficult to do. Honestly I can see no good coming from this.

I controlled 3,000 when we marched against the Riddler Tony, not one bad incident, infant we got praise from the media. :thumbup:


I was on that march Annis and yes it was well marshalled although from what I remember BigGwyn played a huge part in that, not sure if he will be helping on this one. Also you had huge good will on that march because their was a clear injustice being committed against the club. BU won't have anything like the same good will this time.


Tony, yes Gwyn did play a big part in it and we discussed it for weeks between a few of us, we also warned everyone before we marched to behave and thankfully they respected our wishes :thumbup:

Re: ' This bluebirds unite march against Man City '

Tue Aug 06, 2013 8:55 am

Barry Chuckle wrote:Vincent Tan: "If I leave, I'll leave this club in good hands."

:lol:


You refer to this time and again and TBH no-one understands why you do it? How can you laugh at how VT will leave the club when he hasn't left yet?

Honestly Chuckles you really are way off the mark at times. :lol:

Re: This bluebirds unite march against man city

Tue Aug 06, 2013 8:56 am

Tony Blue Williams wrote:
BlueWhite&Yellow wrote:
Tony Blue Williams wrote:
Bluebird 37 wrote:
bloobird97 wrote:There'll be about 60 people u16 and 10 people 30+

Your way out, hundreds will march :ayatollah:


Hundreds? That is still a very small minority as thousands would stand by VT. None of us like playing in red, but there was a deal that we rebranded and in exchange VT would invest £100m into CCFC and make the club debt free.

So basically you are saying we should take the cash and then dump all over VT and insist on having the blue back now. People like that are dishonourable and are frankly spoilt bastards who don't like not getting their own way.

Grow up become an adult and understand that life operates on honouring deals and contracts. I for one have NO intention on going back on the deal struck with VT although I will wait patiently for an honourable solution in the future where a possible mutually acceptable time will emerge for a return to blue.


Slightly hypocritical isn't it? When VT said we either play in red or you don't get the investment.


I think you have got the definition of hypocritical wrong there :? Yes VT put an offer on the table £100m investment for a rebrand. We accepted that offer now we have to see our end of the bargain through :roll:


It's hypocritical in the way you said people are being dishonourable and being spoilt bastards! Tan basically said except my money and turn red or I'm taking my ball home. And I think you'll find that it was the board that made the call not us fans. If we was in a position to turn him down he would be long gone.

He has disrespected fans ever since the rebrand with many things he has done and said. For you to say that a few hundred people celebrating our colours and traditions will damage the club is a joke!

Re: ' This bluebirds unite march against Man City '

Tue Aug 06, 2013 8:58 am

Tony Blue Williams wrote:You refer to this time and again and TBH no-one understands why you do it? How can you laugh at how VT will leave the club when he hasn't left yet?

Honestly Chuckles you really are way off the mark at times. :lol:


If you don't understand, it says a lot about you. :laughing6:

You are all saying that club is doomed etc if Tan leaves (like he's the only person in the world that could afford CCFC :lol: ) yet, from the man himself, there is evidence to disprove that theory...

Some don't want to accept that though, as it doesn't go along with their agenda. :roll:

Re: ' This bluebirds unite march against Man City '

Tue Aug 06, 2013 8:59 am

Forever Blue wrote:
Tony, yes Gwyn did play a big part in it and we discussed it for weeks between a few of us, we also warned everyone before we marched to behave and thankfully they respected our wishes :thumbup:


It looks like they are going to march and obviously no-one can stop them. I won't support them in any way as I don't believe the time is right or we have the moral argument to do so as VT has either committed or delivered on his side of the bargain so far.

Some people find it easy to shit all over someone they have a deal with, I don't.

Re: ' This bluebirds unite march against Man City '

Tue Aug 06, 2013 9:01 am

Tony Blue Williams wrote:
Forever Blue wrote:
Tony, yes Gwyn did play a big part in it and we discussed it for weeks between a few of us, we also warned everyone before we marched to behave and thankfully they respected our wishes :thumbup:


It looks like they are going to march and obviously no-one can stop them. I won't support them in any way as I don't believe the time is right or we have the moral argument to do so as VT has either committed or delivered on his side of the bargain so far.

Some people find it easy to shit all over someone they have a deal with, I don't.


No, you just abuse and insult & lie about people you disagree with. :thumbup:

Re: ' This bluebirds unite march against Man City '

Tue Aug 06, 2013 9:02 am

We really don't need this march especially on our first home game in the premier league.Bu can dress it up as a celebration of Cardiff's history but we all know its an anti tan and anti rebranding march and it will do nothing but damage CC Imo.
The majority of fans see this as the case and its only purpose will be to turn fans further against bu.
Annis is right blue at games is the best way to deal with the rebranding and dialogue through the trust not marches and protests against VT who has done so much for our club.

:ayatollah:

Re: ' This bluebirds unite march against Man City '

Tue Aug 06, 2013 9:03 am

Barry Chuckle wrote:
Tony Blue Williams wrote:You refer to this time and again and TBH no-one understands why you do it? How can you laugh at how VT will leave the club when he hasn't left yet?

Honestly Chuckles you really are way off the mark at times. :lol:


If you don't understand, it says a lot about you. :laughing6:

You are all saying that club is doomed etc if Tan leaves (like he's the only person in the world that could afford CCFC :lol: ) yet, from the man himself, there is evidence to disprove that theory...

Some don't want to accept that though, as it doesn't go along with their agenda. :roll:


What the bloody hell are you on about? Last time I looked there wasn't exactly a queue of billionaires outside CCS looking to take on a football club which is millions of pounds in debt.

Evidence? How about Portsmouth what happened to them when the plug was pulled? :roll: If there is other evidence then please enlighten us :roll:

Re: ' This bluebirds unite march against Man City '

Tue Aug 06, 2013 9:03 am

Forever Blue wrote:
Tony Blue Williams wrote:
Forever Blue wrote:
Tony, they are not damaging our club, they are keeping the BLUE alive. You will always get pockets who can sometimes get out of control. Sian is trying her best to keep everyone well behaved and has warned people no abuse.
You have said its a democratic world.
I don't agree with fans wearing the red and I am stunned and hurt that they do, but that's what they want to do.
Tan will do what he wants anyway.

Everyone does things in their own way, for now I prefer to just continue to wear my BLUE with pride, :thumbup:


I hope Sian can control them but history has proved that will be very difficult to do. Honestly I can see no good coming from this.

I controlled 3,000 when we marched against the Riddler Tony, not one bad incident, infant we got praise from the media. :thumbup:

Yes you did but marching against Ridsdale and marching against Tans vision are two different things one almost destroyed our club the other saved it and what thanks does he get? protest. Don't be surprised if he says enough is enough

Re: ' This bluebirds unite march against Man City '

Tue Aug 06, 2013 9:04 am

We need to enjoy our new life in pl f**k arguing an moaning all the time nothing we can do just get on with or if everyone was on with the rebrand moaners we wouldn't have a club now if u don't like it f**k off

Re: ' This bluebirds unite march against Man City '

Tue Aug 06, 2013 9:04 am

Barry Chuckle wrote:
Tony Blue Williams wrote:
Forever Blue wrote:
Tony, yes Gwyn did play a big part in it and we discussed it for weeks between a few of us, we also warned everyone before we marched to behave and thankfully they respected our wishes :thumbup:


It looks like they are going to march and obviously no-one can stop them. I won't support them in any way as I don't believe the time is right or we have the moral argument to do so as VT has either committed or delivered on his side of the bargain so far.

Some people find it easy to shit all over someone they have a deal with, I don't.


No, you just abuse and insult & lie about people you disagree with. :thumbup:


Oh dear me Chuckles, that is poor mate, very poor :lol:

BTW you are not below having a pop at people :roll: and what happened to being on ignore? :lol:

Re: ' This bluebirds unite march against Man City '

Tue Aug 06, 2013 9:05 am

Tony Blue Williams wrote:
What the bloody hell are you on about? Last time I looked there wasn't exactly a queue of billionaires outside CCS looking to take on a football club which is millions of pounds in debt.

Evidence? How about Portsmouth what happened to them when the plug was pulled? :roll: If there is other evidence then please enlighten us :roll:


Vincent Tan: "When I leave this club, I will leave it in safe hands."

Or don't you believe him? :laughing6: :laughing6: :laughing6:

More hypocrisy from Tony. "He's stuck to his word" - yet when he says something that doesn't agree with Tony's agenda, he suddenly doesn't trust him.

What a surprise. :laughing6:

Re: ' This bluebirds unite march against Man City '

Tue Aug 06, 2013 9:06 am

ihatealiens wrote:
Forever Blue wrote:
Tony Blue Williams wrote:
Forever Blue wrote:
Tony, they are not damaging our club, they are keeping the BLUE alive. You will always get pockets who can sometimes get out of control. Sian is trying her best to keep everyone well behaved and has warned people no abuse.
You have said its a democratic world.
I don't agree with fans wearing the red and I am stunned and hurt that they do, but that's what they want to do.
Tan will do what he wants anyway.

Everyone does things in their own way, for now I prefer to just continue to wear my BLUE with pride, :thumbup:


I hope Sian can control them but history has proved that will be very difficult to do. Honestly I can see no good coming from this.

I controlled 3,000 when we marched against the Riddler Tony, not one bad incident, infant we got praise from the media. :thumbup:

Yes you did but marching against Ridsdale and marching against Tans vision are two different things one almost destroyed our club the other saved it and what thanks does he get? protest. Don't be surprised if he says enough is enough


Like I say, I am not marching on it, but they are entitled to their views being heard and yes I want my Identity back,I will be wearing BLUE at every game. :thumbup:
As I have said before Tan will do what he wants and will leave when he is ready.

Re: ' This bluebirds unite march against Man City '

Tue Aug 06, 2013 9:06 am

Barry Chuckle wrote:
Tony Blue Williams wrote:You refer to this time and again and TBH no-one understands why you do it? How can you laugh at how VT will leave the club when he hasn't left yet?

Honestly Chuckles you really are way off the mark at times. :lol:


If you don't understand, it says a lot about you. :laughing6:

You are all saying that club is doomed etc if Tan leaves (like he's the only person in the world that could afford CCFC :lol: ) yet, from the man himself, there is evidence to disprove that theory...

Some don't want to accept that though, as it doesn't go along with their agenda. :roll:


He could leave the club in 'good hands' but I think the point Tony is trying to make is that the new owner might also want us in red but might not be as ambitious....

Re: ' This bluebirds unite march against Man City '

Tue Aug 06, 2013 9:07 am

Barry Chuckle wrote::lol: Tony "Blue" Williams having a pop at people for not agreeing with him. As normal. :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll:

If people want to march, let them march. Free speech & a right to an opinion & all that.


Barry Chuckles derailing another thread, by having a pop at someone who does not agree with his views.

Re: ' This bluebirds unite march against Man City '

Tue Aug 06, 2013 9:09 am

Magners wrote:
Barry Chuckle wrote::lol: Tony "Blue" Williams having a pop at people for not agreeing with him. As normal. :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll:

If people want to march, let them march. Free speech & a right to an opinion & all that.


Barry Chuckles derailing another thread, by having a pop at someone who does not agree with his views.


I'm debating the march, which is what this thread is about. :?

You, however, and the king of derailers, after you were backed into it in your own thread the other night. Hilarious. :laughing5:

Re: ' This bluebirds unite march against Man City '

Tue Aug 06, 2013 9:11 am

Given some of the people I now see involved in Bluebirds Unite, people who can more than hold their own, will there be any threats or bullying like all the other pro-blue groups were belittled / bullied?

Or is that only reserved for people they know they can bully?
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Re: ' This bluebirds unite march against Man City '

Tue Aug 06, 2013 9:11 am

Barry Chuckle wrote:
Tony Blue Williams wrote:
What the bloody hell are you on about? Last time I looked there wasn't exactly a queue of billionaires outside CCS looking to take on a football club which is millions of pounds in debt.

Evidence? How about Portsmouth what happened to them when the plug was pulled? :roll: If there is other evidence then please enlighten us :roll:


Vincent Tan: "When I leave this club, I will leave it in safe hands."

Or don't you believe him? :laughing6: :laughing6: :laughing6:

More hypocrisy from Tony. "He's stuck to his word" - yet when he says something that doesn't agree with Tony's agenda, he suddenly doesn't trust him.

What a surprise. :laughing6:


Chuckles it is impossible to have a debate with you as you make no logical arguments and just ramble. As I have pointed out how can you comment on how VT has left the club when he hasn't left yet? And yes VT has stuck to his word so far, Langston paid, Premiership, Training Ground etc. although admittedly there is still more to do i.e. Debt to Equity, but yes I do trust him to do that

Instead of just posting a remark (which you don't give a source to) post some evidence if you think the above is wrong?

And finally for the THIRD time how come I'm no longer on ignore? Another Chuckles lie or back track (I suppose that's abuse is it :lol: )

Re: This bluebirds unite march against man city

Tue Aug 06, 2013 9:12 am

Barry Chuckle wrote:
Tony Blue Williams wrote:
I'm sick to death of hearing spoilt individuals crying their eyes out because the majority won't follow their bloody minded lead and cause untold damage to CCFC. It's time for them to understand that whatever their feelings are about 'lost' identity :roll: the vast majority of fans don't hold the same view and they can't bully or cry their eyes out to get their own stupid idiotic MINORITY way.


& I'm sick to death of hearing Tan apologists like you claim to want blue back, yet ridicule and abuse anyone who tries to do anything to get it back. :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll:


Here we go another good thread derailed.