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Re: Albany /Wellfield road

Sun Aug 04, 2013 7:28 pm

Bluebird since 1948 wrote:The amount of Jobless, pram wheeling Eastern Europeans you see up and down Albany road is staggering to say the least, it's killed the area and they add nothing to the area. As for Tescos, I am in agreement with Adam, there's one on City road as well. Albany road used to be the busiest high street in Cardiff and the most unique, sadly other time due to poor decision making tha's been eroded away.


Excalty '48 :ayatollah:

Re: Albany /Wellfield road

Sun Aug 04, 2013 9:49 pm

Am I right in thinking there is no Independent butchers in Albany Road?

Re: Albany /Wellfield road

Sun Aug 04, 2013 10:03 pm

Bluebird since 1948 wrote:The amount of Jobless, pram wheeling Eastern Europeans you see up and down Albany road is staggering to say the least, it's killed the area and they add nothing to the area. As for Tescos, I am in agreement with Adam, there's one on City road as well. Albany road used to be the busiest high street in Cardiff and the most unique, sadly other time due to poor decision making tha's been eroded away.


Albany Road is fine. It's interesting and busy and just naturally changes over time.

Re: Albany /Wellfield road

Sun Aug 04, 2013 10:07 pm

splottbluebird48 wrote:Am I right in thinking there is no Independent butchers in Albany Road?


Butchers has gone it was next door to the bookies i worked in - The butchers is now Greggs.

Re: Albany /Wellfield road

Sun Aug 04, 2013 10:24 pm

TopCat CCFC wrote:
splottbluebird48 wrote:Am I right in thinking there is no Independent butchers in Albany Road?


Butchers has gone it was next door to the bookies i worked in - The butchers is now Greggs.


Top Cat you've worked there over the years. Would you agree with me that its gone really downhill in recent years..?

Re: Albany /Wellfield road

Sun Aug 04, 2013 10:30 pm

Military Junta wrote:
TopCat CCFC wrote:
splottbluebird48 wrote:Am I right in thinking there is no Independent butchers in Albany Road?


Butchers has gone it was next door to the bookies i worked in - The butchers is now Greggs.


Top Cat you've worked there over the years. Would you agree with me that its gone really downhill in recent years..?


10 Years near enough - the place has gone downhill. Have to agree with most of the posts on here with the reasons.
Yourself and BS1948 have covered most of the reasons,also the rates they were charging were shocking.
If your shop was on the other side of the road to Coral - Tessco's - Iceland etc... it was cheaper ??

Re: Albany /Wellfield road

Sun Aug 04, 2013 10:33 pm

The reason the butchers shut is...wait for it....hold on....that not enough people used it.

Sad maybe, I try to shop local, but how many buy their fruit and veg from Tescos there? I don't, I make the effort to get them from the (cheaper) veg shop next door.

People like to blame others for things, but high streets just reflect what people largely want.

Re: Albany /Wellfield road

Sun Aug 04, 2013 10:40 pm

CardiffKid wrote:The reason the butchers shut is...wait for it....hold on....that not enough people used it.

Sad maybe, I try to shop local, but how many buy their fruit and veg from Tescos there? I don't, I make the effort to get them from the (cheaper) veg shop next door.

People like to blame others for things, but high streets just reflect what people largely want.


So do people really want not one but two tescos then..? do people want a million coffee shops and hairdressers..? Thats why I like Penarth Town Centre so much because there are a good few individual shops selling different things and the locals know many of the shop owners on first name terms.

Re: Albany /Wellfield road

Sun Aug 04, 2013 10:44 pm

Military Junta wrote:
CardiffKid wrote:The reason the butchers shut is...wait for it....hold on....that not enough people used it.

Sad maybe, I try to shop local, but how many buy their fruit and veg from Tescos there? I don't, I make the effort to get them from the (cheaper) veg shop next door.

People like to blame others for things, but high streets just reflect what people largely want.


So do people really want not one but two tescos then..? do people want a million coffee shops and hairdressers..? Thats why I like Penarth Town Centre so much because there are a good few individual shops selling different things and the locals know many of the shop owners on first name terms.


Yes, unfortunately it seems that they do prefer that. It's not an exact science, but shops broadly represent what people want.

I agree with you, I prefer more dynamic, interesting and independent places, and Penarth town centre is lovely. Not everyone thinks the same way I guess.

I don't think Cardiff people value much above money, ease and success. People choose red in the prem over identity. People choose ease of Tescos over independence and interest of butchers.

The way it is, unfortunately.

Re: Albany /Wellfield road

Sun Aug 04, 2013 10:48 pm

CardiffKid wrote:
Military Junta wrote:
CardiffKid wrote:The reason the butchers shut is...wait for it....hold on....that not enough people used it.

Sad maybe, I try to shop local, but how many buy their fruit and veg from Tescos there? I don't, I make the effort to get them from the (cheaper) veg shop next door.

People like to blame others for things, but high streets just reflect what people largely want.


So do people really want not one but two tescos then..? do people want a million coffee shops and hairdressers..? Thats why I like Penarth Town Centre so much because there are a good few individual shops selling different things and the locals know many of the shop owners on first name terms.


Yes, unfortunately it seems that they do prefer that. It's not an exact science, but shops broadly represent what people want.

I agree with you, I prefer more dynamic, interesting and independent places, and Penarth town centre is lovely. Not everyone thinks the same way I guess.

I don't think Cardiff people value much above money, ease and success. People choose red in the prem over identity. People choose ease of Tescos over independence and interest of butchers.

The way it is, unfortunately.


But the reason why Penarth is like that is because the locals on a number of occasions have protested against the mulitnationals arriving. Some of them have arrived but they either dont do as well as in other areas or they move out like Starbucks.

Re: Albany /Wellfield road

Sun Aug 04, 2013 10:54 pm

I prefer the multinationals.

We have a medium size supermarket in my village. Its not the cheapest. Morrisons have applied to build one of their places there with the other things that come with a large supermarket like a petrol station. I say lets get it built.

Re: Albany /Wellfield road

Sun Aug 04, 2013 10:59 pm

Bakedalasker wrote:I prefer the multinationals.

We have a medium size supermarket in my village. Its not the cheapest. Morrisons have applied to build one of their places there with the other things that come with a large supermarket like a petrol station. I say lets get it built.


I think it all depends where you live really put for them to put two Tescos within 200 yards of each other is a disgrace

Re: Albany /Wellfield road

Sun Aug 04, 2013 11:06 pm

Military Junta wrote:
Bakedalasker wrote:I prefer the multinationals.

We have a medium size supermarket in my village. Its not the cheapest. Morrisons have applied to build one of their places there with the other things that come with a large supermarket like a petrol station. I say lets get it built.


I think it all depends where you live really put for them to put two Tescos within 200 yards of each other is a disgrace


Sounds extreme but I've seen it at a few places. There usually is a good reason.

Re: Albany /Wellfield road

Sun Aug 04, 2013 11:13 pm

Bakedalasker wrote:
Military Junta wrote:
Bakedalasker wrote:I prefer the multinationals.

We have a medium size supermarket in my village. Its not the cheapest. Morrisons have applied to build one of their places there with the other things that come with a large supermarket like a petrol station. I say lets get it built.


I think it all depends where you live really put for them to put two Tescos within 200 yards of each other is a disgrace


Sounds extreme but I've seen it at a few places. There usually is a good reason.


No one 'put' them anywhere. You can't discriminate, so if Tescos want two stores there, then they can get them. It's the free market.

It's up to the people of Cardiff to stand up for independents if they want them. Standing up for stuff isn't something Cardiffians do in enough numbers though!

Re: Albany /Wellfield road

Sun Aug 04, 2013 11:26 pm

Something has to be done because the likes of Dudders and rainbow stores will struggle at the rates they are paying. Here's a thought, increase rates for Tescos and other multinationals then use that money to subsidise independent stores. That would mean that Tescos and the like are REALLY putting something back into the community.

Re: Albany /Wellfield road

Sun Aug 04, 2013 11:32 pm

Bluebird since 1948 wrote:Something has to be done because the likes of Dudders and rainbow stores will struggle at the rates they are paying. Here's a thought, increase rates for Tescos and other multinationals then use that money to subsidise independent stores. That would mean that Tescos and the like are REALLY putting something back into the community.


Sounds good but not going to happen.

Basically the big guys are running the show. Cartelism is rife and has been for a couple of decades lately.

Re: Albany /Wellfield road

Sun Aug 04, 2013 11:39 pm

I think I'm right (maybe Top Cat could confirm this) but I'm lead to believe that Tesco wouldn't even donate to the traders pot to help put the christmas lights upin the area last year!!! Thats how much their care about the local community!!!

Re: Albany /Wellfield road

Sun Aug 04, 2013 11:43 pm

Military Junta wrote:I think I'm right (maybe Top Cat could confirm this) but I'm lead to believe that Tesco wouldn't even donate to the traders pot to help put the christmas lights upin the area last year!!! Thats how much their care about the local community!!!


Adam i think your right - it was something to do with the tesco in Welfield Rd :shock:

Re: Albany /Wellfield road

Sun Aug 04, 2013 11:44 pm

TopCat CCFC wrote:
Military Junta wrote:I think I'm right (maybe Top Cat could confirm this) but I'm lead to believe that Tesco wouldn't even donate to the traders pot to help put the christmas lights upin the area last year!!! Thats how much their care about the local community!!!


Adam i think your right - it was something to do with the tesco in Welfield Rd :shock:


I thought I was right as I was talking to someone about it during that time :(

Re: Albany /Wellfield road

Mon Aug 05, 2013 7:17 am

Bakedalasker wrote:
Bluebird since 1948 wrote:Something has to be done because the likes of Dudders and rainbow stores will struggle at the rates they are paying. Here's a thought, increase rates for Tescos and other multinationals then use that money to subsidise independent stores. That would mean that Tescos and the like are REALLY putting something back into the community.


Sounds good but not going to happen.

Basically the big guys are running the show. Cartelism is rife and has been for a couple of decades lately.


In a nutshell