Time to end racial chanting (I.E) Anti english -

That's the problem with those comments nowadays and makes me angry and that's probably why th there's still trouble. Look, I'm not here to row or name call I'm here to debate, yes I'm English But have never sung at footy about sheep any like that.

Reason? I've backpacked around the world for 15 years on and off and have met many people from all walks of life and nationalitys. Traveled with a Welshman for 2 months and knew what nationality he was and visa verse but that didn't come into the public domain as we took each other for what we are and not what we are.

Yes, some on here probably dislike me because I'm English and a Brighton fan but I don't dislike you and yes I would have a pint with you and discuss football related topics or on my wave length then chat about backing packing etc, but I find all this, I hate the f*cking English, Sheep f*cking shaggers rather tiresome.

You are in the premiership, on the world stage and I hope you can show what your is about, good and loyal fans instead of showing the world the nasty side and yes that applies to the English sides as well.

Come on, lets leave this old rivalry bitterness behind and move on as good friendly banter football fans.

Banter is fine but sometimes banter steps the mark.

Regards.

I'm Welsh and am rabidly Welsh i love my country with a passion and will sing You Dirty English Bastards etc
all day long. I will also sing Brighton Takes It Up The Arse. But guess what. i dont hate the English, in fact
most of the English people ive worked with and relatives i like. I served in Iraq with an English regiment and
the stick us few ''taffies'' got was merciless, for f**k sake im a Cardiff boy, how dare they call me a taffy
But f**k me did we fire back all day every day. Nobody cried, nobody fell out. it was British close to the edge
Banter. Its what we do and im proud to be British. Also, gays. I dont care. shag who the f**k you like.
Im not keen on the idea but hey ho. Whatever. Our Accountant is gay he rips me when i walk into his office.
Right Ellen Draw The Blinds, Me And Paul Got Some Business To Sort Out, I laugh and say if you ever bothered
to clean your teeth id think about it. Its banter feller.
When people sing Sheep Shagger at me its because im different to them. Im Welsh and Im
proud of it. You Welsh b*stard!!! f*cking right i am, have some!! I dont take it personal. You come on here
a bit it seems. Grow a pair. I promise not to fondle them (kidding!!)

about covers it all i,d say.english,welsh,jocks,we,re all british.great post

Reason I stick my ore in is because our club hate Homophobic chanting, well that's rather easy to resolve, don't insult other peoples ethnics. Not rocket science.

serious question bha.do brighton have a big gay following.?i know the city has a fair few gays but do they attend the games?

That's the problem with those comments nowadays and makes me angry and that's probably why th there's still trouble. Look, I'm not here to row or name call I'm here to debate, yes I'm English But have never sung at footy about sheep any like that.

Reason? I've backpacked around the world for 15 years on and off and have met many people from all walks of life and nationalitys. Traveled with a Welshman for 2 months and knew what nationality he was and visa verse but that didn't come into the public domain as we took each other for what we are and not what we are.

Yes, some on here probably dislike me because I'm English and a Brighton fan but I don't dislike you and yes I would have a pint with you and discuss football related topics or on my wave length then chat about backing packing etc, but I find all this, I hate the f*cking English, Sheep f*cking shaggers rather tiresome.

You are in the premiership, on the world stage and I hope you can show what your is about, good and loyal fans instead of showing the world the nasty side and yes that applies to the English sides as well.

Come on, lets leave this old rivalry bitterness behind and move on as good friendly banter football fans.

Banter is fine but sometimes banter steps the mark.

Regards.

I'm Welsh and am rabidly Welsh i love my country with a passion and will sing You Dirty English Bastards etc
all day long. I will also sing Brighton Takes It Up The Arse. But guess what. i dont hate the English, in fact
most of the English people ive worked with and relatives i like. I served in Iraq with an English regiment and
the stick us few ''taffies'' got was merciless, for f**k sake im a Cardiff boy, how dare they call me a taffy
But f**k me did we fire back all day every day. Nobody cried, nobody fell out. it was British close to the edge
Banter. Its what we do and im proud to be British. Also, gays. I dont care. shag who the f**k you like.
Im not keen on the idea but hey ho. Whatever. Our Accountant is gay he rips me when i walk into his office.
Right Ellen Draw The Blinds, Me And Paul Got Some Business To Sort Out, I laugh and say if you ever bothered
to clean your teeth id think about it. Its banter feller.
When people sing Sheep Shagger at me its because im different to them. Im Welsh and Im
proud of it. You Welsh b*stard!!! f*cking right i am, have some!! I dont take it personal. You come on here
a bit it seems. Grow a pair. I promise not to fondle them (kidding!!)

about covers it all i,d say.english,welsh,jocks,we,re all british.great post

Our stripey was called Chocs. cos he was black and actually did look the colour of
chocolate. You'd never guess who thought of the name and why? HIM Its Cos Im Smooth
Desirable Mysterious - And White Women Want Me. Some thick c**t bitch called me
a racist in London for shouting Chocs Its Your Round HE turned round
and said Shut It Honkey Bitch. Theres a real world outside university

I think some of you are looking into it a bit deeply. It's only jokes.

Wouldn't say it's hatred or anti-English just light hearted banter

Im english born and bred,lived in wales for 5 years and followed cardiff home and away for 3 years
When the lads chant "always shit on the english side" etc ,i join in-its just banter,adds to the atmosphere truth be told.Theres nothing worse than going to a football match and being surrounded by miserable fuckers.
Rugby fans are far worse,but this never gets reported

That's the problem with those comments nowadays and makes me angry and that's probably why th there's still trouble. Look, I'm not here to row or name call I'm here to debate, yes I'm English But have never sung at footy about sheep any like that.

Reason? I've backpacked around the world for 15 years on and off and have met many people from all walks of life and nationalitys. Traveled with a Welshman for 2 months and knew what nationality he was and visa verse but that didn't come into the public domain as we took each other for what we are and not what we are.

Yes, some on here probably dislike me because I'm English and a Brighton fan but I don't dislike you and yes I would have a pint with you and discuss football related topics or on my wave length then chat about backing packing etc, but I find all this, I hate the f*cking English, Sheep f*cking shaggers rather tiresome.

You are in the premiership, on the world stage and I hope you can show what your is about, good and loyal fans instead of showing the world the nasty side and yes that applies to the English sides as well.

Come on, lets leave this old rivalry bitterness behind and move on as good friendly banter football fans.

Banter is fine but sometimes banter steps the mark.

Regards.

I'm Welsh and am rabidly Welsh i love my country with a passion and will sing You Dirty English Bastards etc
all day long. I will also sing Brighton Takes It Up The Arse. But guess what. i dont hate the English, in fact
most of the English people ive worked with and relatives i like. I served in Iraq with an English regiment and
the stick us few ''taffies'' got was merciless, for f**k sake im a Cardiff boy, how dare they call me a taffy
But f**k me did we fire back all day every day. Nobody cried, nobody fell out. it was British close to the edge
Banter. Its what we do and im proud to be British. Also, gays. I dont care. shag who the f**k you like.
Im not keen on the idea but hey ho. Whatever. Our Accountant is gay he rips me when i walk into his office.
Right Ellen Draw The Blinds, Me And Paul Got Some Business To Sort Out, I laugh and say if you ever bothered
to clean your teeth id think about it. Its banter feller.
When people sing Sheep Shagger at me its because im different to them. Im Welsh and Im
proud of it. You Welsh b*stard!!! f*cking right i am, have some!! I dont take it personal. You come on here
a bit it seems. Grow a pair. I promise not to fondle them (kidding!!)

about covers it all i,d say.english,welsh,jocks,we,re all british.great post

Our stripey was called Chocs. cos he was black and actually did look the colour of
chocolate. You'd never guess who thought of the name and why? HIM Its Cos Im Smooth
Desirable Mysterious - And White Women Want Me. Some thick c**t bitch called me
a racist in London for shouting Chocs Its Your Round HE turned round
and said Shut It Honkey Bitch. Theres a real world outside university

there certainly is.people earn each others respect.teasing and messing is part of friendships.

Reason I stick my ore in is because our club hate Homophobic chanting, well that's rather easy to resolve, don't insult other peoples ethnics. Not rocket science.

serious question bha.do brighton have a big gay following.?i know the city has a fair few gays but do they attend the games?

You tell me? Everyone one seems normal and don't recognize any camp voices and YMCA leather clad men. You know that City have a fair few gays? please elaborate.

I have no problem in peoples sexuality, do as they please as it's their life and they dont intrude on my life so I couldn't care in the least.

Reason I stick my ore in is because our club hate Homophobic chanting, well that's rather easy to resolve, don't insult other peoples ethnics. Not rocket science.

serious question bha.do brighton have a big gay following.?i know the city has a fair few gays but do they attend the games?

You tell me? Everyone one seems normal and don't recognize any camp voices and YMCA leather clad men. You know that City have a fair few gays? please elaborate.

I have no problem in peoples sexuality, do as they please as it's their life and they dont intrude on my life so I couldn't care in the least.

How noble of you.

Reason I stick my ore in is because our club hate Homophobic chanting, well that's rather easy to resolve, don't insult other peoples ethnics. Not rocket science.

serious question bha.do brighton have a big gay following.?i know the city has a fair few gays but do they attend the games?

You tell me? Everyone one seems normal and don't recognize any camp voices and YMCA leather clad men. You know that City have a fair few gays? please elaborate.

I have no problem in peoples sexuality, do as they please as it's their life and they dont intrude on my life so I couldn't care in the least.

i meant the city of brighton had a fair few gay people.wondered if they followed the team that is all.

pointless thread , to many chavs on here! lemmons off a cliff mentality.

First off i'd like to say I despise Welsh people who have a massive chip on their shoulders regarding the English, the people on here who hate English people need a clip round the ear for being pathetic.

However singing songs at a football match is banter "Always shit on the English side of the bridge" is not offensive to English people. It's banter between neighbours and you even see it on this board between parts of Cardiff! A few blokes sit next to me and my friends from the Valleys, the abuse we throw at each other in good nature about where we come from is part of being friends.

Do you really think English people think we shag sheep? No. Besides Jeff is from the midlands and a top bloke despite being an English b*stard!

First off i'd like to say I despise Welsh people who have a massive chip on their shoulders regarding the English, the people on here who hate English people need a clip round the ear for being pathetic.

However singing songs at a football match is banter "Always shit on the English side of the bridge" is not offensive to English people. It's banter between neighbours and you even see it on this board between parts of Cardiff! A few blokes sit next to me and my friends from the Valleys, the abuse we throw at each other in good nature about where we come from is part of being friends.

Do you really think English people think we shag sheep? No. Besides Jeff is from the midlands and a top bloke despite being an English b*stard!

thank you kind sir

obviously a minority of people but I feel given where we are playing premier league the press we will be getting is alot more likely to end up publicised.
its time we hold ourselves with a strong level of maturity in the PL and be careful as to how we want to be seen as a club

also lets not Piss off our star England international defender with our often seldomly used Anti English malarky this year,

He was good enough to come here and we should respect the fact that he holds england high in his regards as well as cardiff city. as potentially any new players we sign will be fighting for an international place,
This could also be an added reason to not want to come to cardiff city if we get bad publicity in the papers,
as they will more than likely treat us like serbia if we are chanting anti english on MOTD

I fully agree with you mate. I think you are wasting your time though. The reason being, that although most City fans would read this and think 'spot on' there are too many dickheads who think it is ok to chant anti English shite. Just look at some of the responses you have had from some of the dicks on here.

Reason I stick my ore in is because our club hate Homophobic chanting, well that's rather easy to resolve, don't insult other peoples ethnics. Not rocket science.

My friend you seem to forget that your country England conquered Wales 800 year ago and are still in ocupation! This makes the situation a little different.

Reason I stick my ore in is because our club hate Homophobic chanting, well that's rather easy to resolve, don't insult other peoples ethnics. Not rocket science.

My friend you seem to forget that your country England conquered Wales 800 year ago and are still in ocupation! This makes the situation a little different.

Welsh assembly nut job alert

Reason I stick my ore in is because our club hate Homophobic chanting, well that's rather easy to resolve, don't insult other peoples ethnics. Not rocket science.

serious question bha.do brighton have a big gay following.?i know the city has a fair few gays but do they attend the games?

You tell me? Everyone one seems normal and don't recognize any camp voices and YMCA leather clad men. You know that City have a fair few gays? please elaborate.

I have no problem in peoples sexuality, do as they please as it's their life and they dont intrude on my life so I couldn't care in the least.

i meant the city of brighton had a fair few gay people.wondered if they followed the team that is all.

No! 95% of gays aren't from Brighton. Infact 99% of gays/Lesbians, Transsexuals and what ever else they call themselves live in Kemptown.

Problem with Brighton and the gay stigma is that people from outside Brighton are rather clueless to be honest, head stuck in the sand type people who don't understand how reproduction works and as you're an intelligent man then I really don't need to ex-span any more on the matter?

Reason I stick my ore in is because our club hate Homophobic chanting, well that's rather easy to resolve, don't insult other peoples ethnics. Not rocket science.

My friend you seem to forget that your country England conquered Wales 800 year ago and are still in ocupation! This makes the situation a little different.

Stay off the weed.

Reason I stick my ore in is because our club hate Homophobic chanting, well that's rather easy to resolve, don't insult other peoples ethnics. Not rocket science.

serious question bha.do brighton have a big gay following.?i know the city has a fair few gays but do they attend the games?

You tell me? Everyone one seems normal and don't recognize any camp voices and YMCA leather clad men. You know that City have a fair few gays? please elaborate.

I have no problem in peoples sexuality, do as they please as it's their life and they dont intrude on my life so I couldn't care in the least.

i meant the city of brighton had a fair few gay people.wondered if they followed the team that is all.

No! 95% of gays aren't from Brighton. Infact 99% of gays/Lesbians, Transsexuals and what ever else they call themselves live in Kemptown.

Problem with Brighton and the gay stigma is that people from outside Brighton are rather clueless to be honest, head stuck in the sand type people who don't understand how reproduction works and as you're an intelligent man then I really don't need to ex-span any more on the matter?

obviously a minority of people but I feel given where we are playing premier league the press we will be getting is alot more likely to end up publicised.
its time we hold ourselves with a strong level of maturity in the PL and be careful as to how we want to be seen as a club

also lets not Piss off our star England international defender with our often seldomly used Anti English malarky this year,

He was good enough to come here and we should respect the fact that he holds england high in his regards as well as cardiff city. as potentially any new players we sign will be fighting for an international place,
This could also be an added reason to not want to come to cardiff city if we get bad publicity in the papers,
as they will more than likely treat us like serbia if we are chanting anti english on MOTD

f**k off and die you left wing c**t.

There is only one race, the human race. Get your sorry arse and low IQ over to CCMB where there are several scum who will indulge you.

i am anti british very much so

To JTC

How do Brum fans feel about chants like "all your fans,are at the mosque" bus stop in Asia etc. A few of your older lads seemed genuinely amused, Gotta admit I had a little chuckle myself but warned a few younger lads in front of me the stewards and police might not take too kindly to them in this day of age

To JTC

How do Brum fans feel about chants like "all your fans,are at the mosque" bus stop in Asia etc. A few of your older lads seemed genuinely amused, Gotta admit I had a little chuckle myself but warned a few younger lads in front of me the stewards and police might not take too kindly to them in this day of age

never heard that :yr fans at the mosque;quite funny .it don,t bother me.the fact that in oct the 300 or so fans we had at the ccs were 98pc white is more funny.there is a youtube vid when we beat millwall 0.6 a couple of year ago.there must have been some stuff said cos you can hear blues singing 1.0 to the pakistan we have had it over the years.it happens but the reality is most of our fans are white.we do have a higher number than the average team of non white fans though.i think the younger lads tend to be more pc if you like than older lads.they been brought up with it.that bunch of kids must have been young cos i heard some of ours singing ;where were you when you were blue?; i went on a bus from blues to villa park around 07.had my then wife with me.one pissed kid was singing you,re just a bus stop in deli.i remember thinking pot kettle .on the whole it,s water off a ducks back but like you say the old bill might not take it that way.the old bill like feeling everyones pain these days more than catching criminals.with the amount of cctv in the grounds it,s a easy nicking.a daft pissed up kid sings a daft song for 30 secs then all of a sudden he has a race conviction on his cv.

That's the problem with those comments nowadays and makes me angry and that's probably why th there's still trouble. Look, I'm not here to row or name call I'm here to debate, yes I'm English But have never sung at footy about sheep any like that.

Reason? I've backpacked around the world for 15 years on and off and have met many people from all walks of life and nationalitys. Traveled with a Welshman for 2 months and knew what nationality he was and visa verse but that didn't come into the public domain as we took each other for what we are and not what we are.

Yes, some on here probably dislike me because I'm English and a Brighton fan but I don't dislike you and yes I would have a pint with you and discuss football related topics or on my wave length then chat about backing packing etc, but I find all this, I hate the f*cking English, Sheep f*cking shaggers rather tiresome.

You are in the premiership, on the world stage and I hope you can show what your is about, good and loyal fans instead of showing the world the nasty side and yes that applies to the English sides as well.

Come on, lets leave this old rivalry bitterness behind and move on as good friendly banter football fans.

Banter is fine but sometimes banter steps the mark.

Regards.

most of it is pure banter...even english city fans I know joined into "always shit on the english side of the bridge" etc...

wouldnt take it too seriously, same goes for chants bout Brighton being gay etc.

I got lots of time for BHA, quiete a remarkable journey, from Goldstone to Withdean and now ito the lovely Amex at Falmer (the best new ground, by a mile), been to MillStad when u guys beat Bristol City to go up. And most Brighton kow exactly how to handle banter, remember a tuesday-night game at Ninian, and the banter between us and Brighton was brilliant and funny...
To our "we can see you holding hands.." the brighton fans put their arms in the air and actually were holding hands etc...
I remember the BHA loved the game too, had a good read on the NorthStandBanter message board after....

I find myself explaining these kinds of things to my non-football (by that I mean rugby) friends all the time.

The way I go about explaining it is this; Some people like to watch opera to de-stress, some like to watch emmerdale, some like to have a few pints, some like to take drugs. Me? I like to go down the City watch the footy and collectively with my 'tribe' take the piss out of people from a different tribe from a distance.

It's mostly harmless. If any football fan takes offence to a football chant sang by the opposite fans then they are probably in the wrong place.

We sing 'Always shit on the english side of the bridge' - does anyone cry? No. They sing 'should have built a wall and not a bridge' back.
What would you rather we sang? 'Gosh, don't we all get along regardless of what side of the bridge we originate from'?

I would even argue that the chanting aimed at Brighton fans isn't homophobic as such because we don't know and don't care if there are or aren't gay people attending when it is sung it is merely fun being poked at a stereotype.

The only offensive chanting that exists in football is actual racism toward players and anti-sectarian/nazi chanting that exists but is never heard in our part of the world.

Until the chants turn spiteful it's completely fine with me!

First off i'd like to say I despise Welsh people who have a massive chip on their shoulders regarding the English, the people on here who hate English people need a clip round the ear for being pathetic.

However singing songs at a football match is banter "Always shit on the English side of the bridge" is not offensive to English people. It's banter between neighbours and you even see it on this board between parts of Cardiff! A few blokes sit next to me and my friends from the Valleys, the abuse we throw at each other in good nature about where we come from is part of being friends.

Do you really think English people think we shag sheep? No. Besides Jeff is from the midlands and a top bloke despite being an English b*stard!

The people who hate the English are thick. But on the other side of the coin there are plenty
hate the Welsh too. Its just a badge. We all get on really. Cymru Am Byth - GSTQ

That's the problem with those comments nowadays and makes me angry and that's probably why th there's still trouble. Look, I'm not here to row or name call I'm here to debate, yes I'm English But have never sung at footy about sheep any like that.

Reason? I've backpacked around the world for 15 years on and off and have met many people from all walks of life and nationalitys. Traveled with a Welshman for 2 months and knew what nationality he was and visa verse but that didn't come into the public domain as we took each other for what we are and not what we are.

Yes, some on here probably dislike me because I'm English and a Brighton fan but I don't dislike you and yes I would have a pint with you and discuss football related topics or on my wave length then chat about backing packing etc, but I find all this, I hate the f*cking English, Sheep f*cking shaggers rather tiresome.

You are in the premiership, on the world stage and I hope you can show what your is about, good and loyal fans instead of showing the world the nasty side and yes that applies to the English sides as well.

Come on, lets leave this old rivalry bitterness behind and move on as good friendly banter football fans.

Banter is fine but sometimes banter steps the mark.

Regards.

I'm Welsh and am rabidly Welsh i love my country with a passion and will sing You Dirty English Bastards etc
all day long. I will also sing Brighton Takes It Up The Arse. But guess what. i dont hate the English, in fact
most of the English people ive worked with and relatives i like. I served in Iraq with an English regiment and
the stick us few ''taffies'' got was merciless, for f**k sake im a Cardiff boy, how dare they call me a taffy
But f**k me did we fire back all day every day. Nobody cried, nobody fell out. it was British close to the edge
Banter. Its what we do and im proud to be British. Also, gays. I dont care. shag who the f**k you like.
Im not keen on the idea but hey ho. Whatever. Our Accountant is gay he rips me when i walk into his office.
Right Ellen Draw The Blinds, Me And Paul Got Some Business To Sort Out, I laugh and say if you ever bothered
to clean your teeth id think about it. Its banter feller.
When people sing Sheep Shagger at me its because im different to them. Im Welsh and Im
proud of it. You Welsh b*stard!!! f*cking right i am, have some!! I dont take it personal. You come on here
a bit it seems. Grow a pair. I promise not to fondle them (kidding!!)

Served in Iraq with an English regiment? Hard to believe and think you are bullshitting, any serving soldier would name his regiment if was serving/not. My dad spent 25 years in the Grenadier Guards and I followed him and spent 8 years in the 1st battalion. You're one of these people who make out who they're not just like the cowboy builders that appear on the ITV show 'Builders from Hell'.

You remind me of that chap on TV last year who said he was in the 'SAS' and appeared on national TV claiming to be a war hero but the press rumbled him.

I did a T in Serv during my time so dont feel the same affinity towards it which is
why i just wrote English Regiment (i think, as i did not consciously omit it)) No more
mysterious than that We were deployed post war and were glorified f*cking postmen
which is why the transfer to 'something else'. I could google a dozen different units
and taskings if i could be arsed and you'd be none the wiser. but my time in the mob was
a full BBB experience that left a bad taste.

This is a good thread. Having fans from other clubs really helps this forum.(with the odd exception )

personally i think its all good banter, providing no individuals are directly targeted. (With the odd exception )

I agree with the OP to a point - we've got quite a few English players in the squad, but at the same time - the majority of away fans coming to CCS this season will be no different to the Championship crowds of the past; we're going to get some anti Welsh abuse off half of them, so I can't see us behaving for long...

I find myself explaining these kinds of things to my non-football (by that I mean rugby) friends all the time.

The way I go about explaining it is this; Some people like to watch opera to de-stress, some like to watch emmerdale, some like to have a few pints, some like to take drugs. Me? I like to go down the City watch the footy and collectively with my 'tribe' take the piss out of people from a different tribe from a distance.

It's mostly harmless. If any football fan takes offence to a football chant sang by the opposite fans then they are probably in the wrong place.

We sing 'Always shit on the english side of the bridge' - does anyone cry? No. They sing 'should have built a wall and not a bridge' back.
What would you rather we sang? 'Gosh, don't we all get along regardless of what side of the bridge we originate from'?

I would even argue that the chanting aimed at Brighton fans isn't homophobic as such because we don't know and don't care if there are or aren't gay people attending when it is sung it is merely fun being poked at a stereotype.

The only offensive chanting that exists in football is actual racism toward players and anti-sectarian/nazi chanting that exists but is never heard in our part of the world.

Until the chants turn spiteful it's completely fine with me!

Taking the piss out of your mate because he's black ginger asian white gay Welsh, English etc etc
is just that. its taking the piss and having a laugh. Its what we do in Britain. If it gets malicious and
nasty then thats a different matter. But wolf whistling Brighton fans? FFS who the f**k can be getting
upset about that. Being Gay in Britain is no longer a stigma unless they want to be martyrs and play
the victim. f*cking get on with it. If I take the piss out of a gay lad and he calls me a sheep-shagger
which is the most offensive?