Just got back and it was a blue night

Because has long as this things rumble on it will not go away, and without VT where would this club be? Not in th PL that is for sure, I will wear red and support the team, I will provide the club with extra income so that we can continue to progress, the people that are buying these blue shirts are only lining the pockets of certain individuals, which brings no benefits to the club.

That's fine. You can't tell people what to do though.

Whose telling people what to do, these are my thoughts, and I would like to think that I give a balanced view, unfortunately there are a lot of people on here who have tunnel vision and don't look at the bigger picture, it is not about the supporters, this is about this club being able to sustain football at the top level, but unfortunately some people would take this club backwards and down the leagues, playing in front of a few thousand fans, is that what we want? Self destructing.

Lb,
well said.

Unfortunately there are none so blind that will not see.

How does being pro-blue equate to wanting the club in the lower leagues?

It's this kind of total made up nonsense that drives wedges between fans.

It's just total fantasy to say such a thing, and it's damaging too. I'm sick of it. It makes as much sense as saying those who are pro-red want the club to move to Malaysia..it's an equally bollocks argument!

What is wrong with campaigning for a return to blue? I think the club would be in a more sustainable and united state with it. Tan needs to engage and listen to legitimate concerns from his 'customers'.

There have been posts on this board by people who openly state that they would rather see us in a lower league in blue.Fact.

I've never seen/heard anyone say that the club should move to Malaysia and of course that would be total bollocks.

I happen to have a large bluebird tattooed on my right arm and would prefer to see us playing in blue. I am not with the disruptive nature of the what I see happening but I suppose someone is making money out of mugs and tee shirts.

Because has long as this things rumble on it will not go away, and without VT where would this club be? Not in th PL that is for sure, I will wear red and support the team, I will provide the club with extra income so that we can continue to progress, the people that are buying these blue shirts are only lining the pockets of certain individuals, which brings no benefits to the club.

That's fine. You can't tell people what to do though.

Whose telling people what to do, these are my thoughts, and I would like to think that I give a balanced view, unfortunately there are a lot of people on here who have tunnel vision and don't look at the bigger picture, it is not about the supporters, this is about this club being able to sustain football at the top level, but unfortunately some people would take this club backwards and down the leagues, playing in front of a few thousand fans, is that what we want? Self destructing.

Lb,
well said.

Unfortunately there are none so blind that will not see.

How does being pro-blue equate to wanting the club in the lower leagues?

It's this kind of total made up nonsense that drives wedges between fans.

It's just total fantasy to say such a thing, and it's damaging too. I'm sick of it. It makes as much sense as saying those who are pro-red want the club to move to Malaysia..it's an equally bollocks argument!

What is wrong with campaigning for a return to blue? I think the club would be in a more sustainable and united state with it. Tan needs to engage and listen to legitimate concerns from his 'customers'.

There have been posts on this board by people who openly state that they would rather see us in a lower league in blue.Fact.

I've never seen/heard anyone say that the club should move to Malaysia and of course that would be total bollocks.

I happen to have a large bluebird tattooed on my right arm and would prefer to see us playing in blue. I am not with the disruptive nature of the what I see happening but I suppose someone is making money out of mugs and tee shirts.

So if a handful of people say something, that means it applies to everyone does it? So one Cardiff City hooligan means all Cardiff City fans are hooligans?

Think it through..

To be clear..I, like 99% of pro-blues want City in the premier league. It's offensive and bollocks to suggest anything else.

Lb,
well said.

Unfortunately there are none so blind that will not see.[/quote]

How does being pro-blue equate to wanting the club in the lower leagues?

It's this kind of total made up nonsense that drives wedges between fans.

It's just total fantasy to say such a thing, and it's damaging too. I'm sick of it. It makes as much sense as saying those who are pro-red want the club to move to Malaysia..it's an equally bollocks argument!

What is wrong with campaigning for a return to blue? I think the club would be in a more sustainable and united state with it. Tan needs to engage and listen to legitimate concerns from his 'customers'.[/quote]

There have been posts on this board by people who openly state that they would rather see us in a lower league in blue.Fact.

I've never seen/heard anyone say that the club should move to Malaysia and of course that would be total bollocks.

I happen to have a large bluebird tattooed on my right arm and would prefer to see us playing in blue. I am not with the disruptive nature of the what I see happening but I suppose someone is making money out of mugs and tee shirts.[/quote]

So if a handful of people say something, that means it applies to everyone does it? So one Cardiff City hooligan means all Cardiff City fans are hooligans? Don't change the point or seek a diversion. Fact is there are those who are extreme or deluded enough to wish this upon the club.That kidda is in divisive in my book.

Think it through..

To be clear..I, like 99% of pro-blues want City in the premier league. It's offensive and bollocks to suggest anything else.[/quote]I'm pro-blue and so happy to see us where we are but you don't get much for free and the price has been the red strip and the badge.It has also been done for a reason and if you missed it first time read DT's letter from the time.I can see the rationale which is financial and whether I like it or not that's the deal. We are at a key stage about to enter our first PL season with plenty waiting to generally do us down and the last thing we need is disruption and growing division.

Lb,
well said.

Unfortunately there are none so blind that will not see.

How does being pro-blue equate to wanting the club in the lower leagues?

It's this kind of total made up nonsense that drives wedges between fans.

It's just total fantasy to say such a thing, and it's damaging too. I'm sick of it. It makes as much sense as saying those who are pro-red want the club to move to Malaysia..it's an equally bollocks argument!

What is wrong with campaigning for a return to blue? I think the club would be in a more sustainable and united state with it. Tan needs to engage and listen to legitimate concerns from his 'customers'.[/quote]

There have been posts on this board by people who openly state that they would rather see us in a lower league in blue.Fact.

I've never seen/heard anyone say that the club should move to Malaysia and of course that would be total bollocks.

I happen to have a large bluebird tattooed on my right arm and would prefer to see us playing in blue. I am not with the disruptive nature of the what I see happening but I suppose someone is making money out of mugs and tee shirts.[/quote]

So if a handful of people say something, that means it applies to everyone does it? So one Cardiff City hooligan means all Cardiff City fans are hooligans? Don't change the point or seek a diversion. Fact is there are those who are extreme or deluded enough to wish this upon the club.That kidda is in divisive in my book.

Think it through..

To be clear..I, like 99% of pro-blues want City in the premier league. It's offensive and bollocks to suggest anything else.[/quote]I'm pro-blue and so happy to see us where we are but you don't get much for free and the price has been the red strip and the badge.It has also been done for a reason and if you missed it first time read DT's letter from the time.I can see the rationale which is financial and whether I like it or not that's the deal. We are at a key stage about to enter our first PL season with plenty waiting to generally do us down and the last thing we need is disruption and growing division.
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Firstly, please answer my point. You said a handful of pro-blues had said they would sacrifice the premier league for the blue shirt...tell me please, how does that equate to all Blues wanting league two?

For someone who claims they want Blue, you have a funny way of showing it, by slagging off Cardiff fans who prefer blue.

Incidentally, there are no material benefits of the red shirt. None at all. The branding thing in China argument is null and void.

Mostly kids there last night it was quite amusing them singing "we'll always be blue" only to go very quiet when a group of well known well built older males replied with the words "you'l always sniff glue" made me smile anyway

That was funny but not as funny as the fat Earnie!

Lb,
well said.

Unfortunately there are none so blind that will not see.

How does being pro-blue equate to wanting the club in the lower leagues?

It's this kind of total made up nonsense that drives wedges between fans.

It's just total fantasy to say such a thing, and it's damaging too. I'm sick of it. It makes as much sense as saying those who are pro-red want the club to move to Malaysia..it's an equally bollocks argument!

What is wrong with campaigning for a return to blue? I think the club would be in a more sustainable and united state with it. Tan needs to engage and listen to legitimate concerns from his 'customers'.

There have been posts on this board by people who openly state that they would rather see us in a lower league in blue.Fact.

I've never seen/heard anyone say that the club should move to Malaysia and of course that would be total bollocks.

I happen to have a large bluebird tattooed on my right arm and would prefer to see us playing in blue. I am not with the disruptive nature of the what I see happening but I suppose someone is making money out of mugs and tee shirts.[/quote]

So if a handful of people say something, that means it applies to everyone does it? So one Cardiff City hooligan means all Cardiff City fans are hooligans? Don't change the point or seek a diversion. Fact is there are those who are extreme or deluded enough to wish this upon the club.That kidda is in divisive in my book.

Think it through..

To be clear..I, like 99% of pro-blues want City in the premier league. It's offensive and bollocks to suggest anything else.[/quote]I'm pro-blue and so happy to see us where we are but you don't get much for free and the price has been the red strip and the badge.It has also been done for a reason and if you missed it first time read DT's letter from the time.I can see the rationale which is financial and whether I like it or not that's the deal. We are at a key stage about to enter our first PL season with plenty waiting to generally do us down and the last thing we need is disruption and growing division.
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Firstly, please answer my point. You said a handful of pro-blues had said they would sacrifice the premier league for the blue shirt...tell me please, how does that equate to all Blues wanting league two? Read what I said and don't twist what I said. Furthermore you said it's made up nonsense.It's not.

For someone who claims they want Blue, you have a funny way of showing it, by slagging off Cardiff fans who prefer blue. I've slagged no one off but I believe some of the ways in which views are being expressed to be disruptive and do not want negativity and divisiveness undermining our season.

Incidentally, there are no material benefits of the red shirt. None at all. The branding thing in China argument is null and void.[/quote]You have no authority or grounds on which to claim this.Don't dismiss something just because you may not like it or doesn't fit with your narrative.Read DT's letter.

I am sure that VT has listened to what supporters have said, but unfortunately South Wales is a tiny market, Asia is a massive market, give him a chance to prove that we can generate income in his home land, I am sure that if it doesn't work out he will be man enough to admit that he was wrong, try to force his arm and he will dig his heels in, or he will off load the club, and we all know what can happen there; look at Brum.
Better the devil you know, as the saying goes.

I am sure that VT has listened to what supporters have said, but unfortunately South Wales is a tiny market, Asia is a massive market, give him a chance to prove that we can generate income in his home land, I am sure that if it doesn't work out he will be man enough to admit that he was wrong, try to force his arm and he will dig his heels in, or he will off load the club, and we all know what can happen there; look at Brum.
Better the devil you know, as the saying goes.

"If I leave, I will leave the club in good hands".

Vincent Tan, BCC Interview.