Steven Caulker

No chance of this happening, he should be playing regularly for Spurs next season. He wasn't available for loan last season, and on the back of a better season than expected he's not going to be available for loan this season. It would be a step backwards in his career to the stage he was at in 2011 when he joined us, he's moved on since then and will be looking to establish himself as a regular for Spurs and England in the next couple of years and his best chance of doing that is staying with Spurs.

I wouldn't be surprised if you were in for him, but like with a lot of your targets you need to get realistic.

Need to get realistic? We're on the verge of getting Capoue (wanted by Atletico Madrid, but we have more funds). Aim for the moon and you'll fall amongst the stars.

I think Spurs will go after a new centre back. You look at the players linked with Villas Boas and you know its only a matter of time before a player like Caulker is facing the exit door. He's a good player but Spurs can and will get better on the continent.

Will probably be Belgian too, bloody loves his Belgians

Belgium, the Netherlands and Germany are the markets I'd be tapping into as well. If I was Malky these would be the only places I'd be looking.

No chance of this happening, he should be playing regularly for Spurs next season. He wasn't available for loan last season, and on the back of a better season than expected he's not going to be available for loan this season. It would be a step backwards in his career to the stage he was at in 2011 when he joined us, he's moved on since then and will be looking to establish himself as a regular for Spurs and England in the next couple of years and his best chance of doing that is staying with Spurs.

I wouldn't be surprised if you were in for him, but like with a lot of your targets you need to get realistic.

So are you saying it would be a fantastic capture for Cardiff City FC?..

No chance of this happening, he should be playing regularly for Spurs next season. He wasn't available for loan last season, and on the back of a better season than expected he's not going to be available for loan this season. It would be a step backwards in his career to the stage he was at in 2011 when he joined us, he's moved on since then and will be looking to establish himself as a regular for Spurs and England in the next couple of years and his best chance of doing that is staying with Spurs.

I wouldn't be surprised if you were in for him, but like with a lot of your targets you need to get realistic.

So are you saying it would be a fantastic capture for Cardiff City FC?..

Jealousy springs to mind. They'd love him back there to replace Williams.

cant see it, he would have gone to swansea if he was going to leave spurs, i know they are a smaller club but cant see him choosing us either......

No chance of this happening, he should be playing regularly for Spurs next season. He wasn't available for loan last season, and on the back of a better season than expected he's not going to be available for loan this season. It would be a step backwards in his career to the stage he was at in 2011 when he joined us, he's moved on since then and will be looking to establish himself as a regular for Spurs and England in the next couple of years and his best chance of doing that is staying with Spurs.

I wouldn't be surprised if you were in for him, but like with a lot of your targets you need to get realistic.

We've attracted a top talent in Cornelius, a quality Football League right back and a potential England GK. We are being level headed.

No chance of this happening, he should be playing regularly for Spurs next season. He wasn't available for loan last season, and on the back of a better season than expected he's not going to be available for loan this season. It would be a step backwards in his career to the stage he was at in 2011 when he joined us, he's moved on since then and will be looking to establish himself as a regular for Spurs and England in the next couple of years and his best chance of doing that is staying with Spurs.

I wouldn't be surprised if you were in for him, but like with a lot of your targets you need to get realistic.

So are you saying it would be a fantastic capture for Cardiff City FC?..

Yes.

No chance of this happening, he should be playing regularly for Spurs next season. He wasn't available for loan last season, and on the back of a better season than expected he's not going to be available for loan this season. It would be a step backwards in his career to the stage he was at in 2011 when he joined us, he's moved on since then and will be looking to establish himself as a regular for Spurs and England in the next couple of years and his best chance of doing that is staying with Spurs.

I wouldn't be surprised if you were in for him, but like with a lot of your targets you need to get realistic.

Need to get realistic? We're on the verge of getting Capoue (wanted by Atletico Madrid, but we have more funds). Aim for the moon and you'll fall amongst the stars.

It looks far from done and he does seem to be wanting to join Atletico Madrid or a bigger club rather than you. You may be able to attract him with money, but I think you'd be doing much better to sign players like John Brayford who want to play for you on realistic wages joining for a realistic transfer fee who will be able to settle in to your side easily.

I don't think Capoue would be the best of signings, especially considering what you would be paying for him, I don't think he'll be able to make the sort of impact that you'd be looking for given the transfer fee and I don't think he's suited to your style of play based on televised games last season.

It looks far from done and he does seem to be wanting to join Atletico Madrid or a bigger club rather than you. You may be able to attract him with money, but I think you'd be doing much better to sign players like John Brayford who want to play for you on realistic wages joining for a realistic transfer fee who will be able to settle in to your side easily.

I don't think Capoue would be the best of signings, especially considering what you would be paying for him, I don't think he'll be able to make the sort of impact that you'd be looking for given the transfer fee and I don't think he's suited to your style of play based on televised games last season.

He's a huge European talent, if I was him I'd want to join Atletico over us. But they can't and won't pay the amount we will for him.

He'd be our biggest signing in recent history. Possibly the difference between staying up or going down. He's just the type of player many teams need, us being one of those teams. Malky wouldn't go after him if we didn't need him. He knows what we're going to be playing like in the Prem. Capoue's one of the best defensive midfielders I've seen play. He slows down the play, controls the midfield, spreads passes out to wingers, or through to forwards. Superb all round player.

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We've attracted a top talent in Cornelius, a quality Football League right back and a potential England GK. We are being level headed.

Jordan, what the Jacks cant understand is that we by default are bigger than them. They need to get used to it again. We've come up and compete instantly because we are a capital city thats thriving, can afford to pay big money for the players we want and we can fly up the table at Tan's will in the future. There are no limits to the possibilities at the moment for us as Langston is resolved and now all we need is the conversion done and the stadium capacity increased to be laughing.

The Tom Ince issue has fans worried but its a one off and was nothing to do with our lack of pull but everything to do with Tom Ince being an egotistical arse like his father who thinks he's better than he is because of the hype from the media. This is the difference in British football and elsewhere. Elsewhere the cocky footballers are the ones who are actually good/half decent like Balotelli or world class like Ronaldo. Only in Britain are the cocky players also incredibly mediocre - Barton, Ince, etc. You only have to look at Bendtner to know the influence the British media has on players. It wasn't until he come here that he thought he was God's gift.

Whilst signing Ince would have been good because we do need a winger I also think in some respects we've dodged a bullet and I hope Malky continues to do his business on the continent.

We've attracted a top talent in Cornelius, a quality Football League right back and a potential England GK. We are being level headed.

Jordan, what the Jacks cant understand is that we by default are bigger than them. They need to get used to it again. We've come up and compete instantly because we are a capital city thats thriving, can afford to pay big money for the players we want and we can fly up the table at Tan's will in the future. There are no limits to the possibilities at the moment for us as Langston is resolved and now all we need is the conversion done and the stadium capacity increased to be laughing.

The Tom Ince issue has fans worried but its a one off and was nothing to do with our lack of pull but everything to do with Tom Ince being an egotistical arse like his father who thinks he's better than he is because of the hype from the media. This is the difference in British football and elsewhere. Elsewhere the cocky footballers are the ones who are actually good/half decent like Balotelli or world class like Ronaldo. Only in Britain are the cocky players also incredibly mediocre - Barton, Ince, etc. You only have to look at Bendtner to know the influence the British media has on players. It wasn't until he come here that he thought he was God's gift.

Whilst signing Ince would have been good because we do need a winger I also think in some respects we've dodged a bullet and I hope Malky continues to do his business on the continent.

At the moment I feel we are level, I feel we are the bigger club in terms of stature but it's the Laudrup factor that attracts players to the club, if/when he leaves and they find a lesser quality manager then they will find it extremely harder to attract players, as long as they don't do well in European competitions then it's fine. The conversion deal will be a huge factor in the clubs history.

I agree, Tom Ince made every excuse he could not to sign for us despite us being respect throughout the deal. British media have a huge factor on players. I'd have loved us to sign Ince but it wasn't meant to be but we definitely need a winger

Never heard if him

To be fair why would you. He's only an england international, played for your two main rivals and spurs. Complete unkown.


On a serious not be amazed if you signed him as he is the golden boy at spurs and rightly so. Will be Englands main CB for years to come and will be Spurs best CB as he gains more experience. Why they would loan him to you would be a mystery as what can he or they gain? And if they sell him to anybody then they are insane. PS not a dig at you in any way you could substitue CCFC for SCFC and I would make the same point

Mmmm couple of sensible posts on here from a couple of jacks. How refreshing!
Happen to agree with this as well.

He's a huge European talent, if I was him I'd want to join Atletico over us. But they can't and won't pay the amount we will for him.

He'd be our biggest signing in recent history. Possibly the difference between staying up or going down. He's just the type of player many teams need, us being one of those teams. Malky wouldn't go after him if we didn't need him. He knows what we're going to be playing like in the Prem. Capoue's one of the best defensive midfielders I've seen play. He slows down the play, controls the midfield, spreads passes out to wingers, or through to forwards. Superb all round player.

£9.5 million is a huge amount of money to pay for a side in your position playing the role of dictating the play. See Esteban Granero for how little impact he could make in a side like yours despite having the technical ability he has. Its also a huge amount of money to pay for a player only proven in the French League, when you consider the sort of fees that the more impressive Yohann Cabaye and Moussa Sissoko went for.

Jordan, what the Jacks cant understand is that we by default are bigger than them. They need to get used to it again. We've come up and compete instantly because we are a capital city thats thriving, can afford to pay big money for the players we want and we can fly up the table at Tan's will in the future. There are no limits to the possibilities at the moment for us as Langston is resolved and now all we need is the conversion done and the stadium capacity increased to be laughing.

The Tom Ince issue has fans worried but its a one off and was nothing to do with our lack of pull but everything to do with Tom Ince being an egotistical arse like his father who thinks he's better than he is because of the hype from the media. This is the difference in British football and elsewhere. Elsewhere the cocky footballers are the ones who are actually good/half decent like Balotelli or world class like Ronaldo. Only in Britain are the cocky players also incredibly mediocre - Barton, Ince, etc. You only have to look at Bendtner to know the influence the British media has on players. It wasn't until he come here that he thought he was God's gift.

Whilst signing Ince would have been good because we do need a winger I also think in some respects we've dodged a bullet and I hope Malky continues to do his business on the continent.

You seem very naive to think that players like Capoue would join you because of the size of your club, the size of your city or to want to play under Malky Mackay. They'd join you for the wages your prepared to pay, and money talks. Your not being run sustainably, and you will be losing money next season.

You'd do very well to finish 17th, and there's nothing to suggest that you are competitive at this level, as it stands you are nowhere near good enough to compete at this level.

In what way have you dodged a bullet in Ince? If he's not proven enough to spend £8 million on, then Cornelius isn't proven enough to spend the amount that you did on him and Etienne Capoue isn't proven enough to spend £9.5 million.

It's not hard to beat teams to signings when your overpaying for them.

£9.5 million is a huge amount of money to pay for a side in your position playing the role of dictating the play. See Esteban Granero for how little impact he could make in a side like yours despite having the technical ability he has. Its also a huge amount of money to pay for a player only proven in the French League, when you consider the sort of fees that the more impressive Yohann Cabaye and Moussa Sissoko went for.

What you didn't mention is that QPR also bought near-enough a complete new side to go along with Granero. We are bringing in the quality needed. That's it. Moussa Sissoko is not better than Capoue. I would much rather Capoue. I have watched them both play together for Toulouse 4 or 5 times at the start of last season, and Capoue made almost everything happen. Puled all the strings. If the likes of Arsenal, PSG, Fiorentina, Napoli and Atletico Madrid, quite frankly all European giants feel or felt that Capoue is good enough for their side, then he's damn well good enough for ours.

You seem very naive to think that players like Capoue would join you because of the size of your club, the size of your city or to want to play under Malky Mackay. They'd join you for the wages your prepared to pay, and money talks. Your not being run sustainably, and you will be losing money next season.

I mentioned that. There's various factors involved in a players decision and I mentioned wages. We can pay them, you wont because of your wage structure. As for sustainability, you're preaching to the devil in hell. The Premier League being that hell and the devil being almost every team in it. Want to compete then you have to put your money where your mouth is. There's a reason Bayern cruised to victory last season in the Bundesliga and thats because they broke the bank whilst other teams like Schalke, Dortmund and so on try to follow a model of sustainability. If all teams followed the same business model then it would be a level playing field but the reality is they dont and the Premier League is arguably one of the worst when it comes to this.

You'd do very well to finish 17th, and there's nothing to suggest that you are competitive at this level, as it stands you are nowhere near good enough to compete at this level.

They said the same about Norwich. Where are they now? Oh wait. You like any other person on here know nothing. There are 38 games in a season and whether we survive or not will be down to skill, luck and determination plus other factors. No one knows. Stop pretending you have a clue because you dont. There's a reason managers and so on exist and are trained to a certain level and know the game inside out.

In what way have you dodged a bullet in Ince?

Because I believe he is a mercenary who would be happy to take a bumper contract and not put the shift in thats required. If hes tied into a £60k per week 5 year contract then hes not going to budge even if we want to sell him. I think deep down his father knows hes shit and is trying to get him tied up to a big contract before the reality sets in and people realise the truth that hes just another mediocre British overhyped player.

If he's not proven enough to spend £8 million on, then Cornelius isn't proven enough to spend the amount that you did on him and Etienne Capoue isn't proven enough to spend £9.5 million.

Nonsense.

£9.5 million is a huge amount of money to pay for a side in your position playing the role of dictating the play. See Esteban Granero for how little impact he could make in a side like yours despite having the technical ability he has. Its also a huge amount of money to pay for a player only proven in the French League, when you consider the sort of fees that the more impressive Yohann Cabaye and Moussa Sissoko went for.

What you didn't mention is that QPR also bought near-enough a complete new side to go along with Granero. We are bringing in the quality needed. That's it. Moussa Sissoko is not better than Capoue. I would much rather Capoue. I have watched them both play together for Toulouse 4 or 5 times at the start of last season, and Capoue made almost everything happen. Puled all the strings. If the likes of Arsenal, PSG, Fiorentina, Napoli and Atletico Madrid, quite frankly all European giants feel or felt that Capoue is good enough for their side, then he's damn well good enough for ours.

Those clubs have been linked with him, all of the top clubs get linked with several players every summer and Cabaye and Sissoko were also linked with big clubs, if one of them thought he was worth £9.5 million he would sign for them but none of them do.

Atletico Madrid could get the funds together to sign him, following the sale of Falcao but they clearly don't think he's worth it.

Sissoko is much better suited to the Premier League, he's younger, cost almost a fifth of the price your paying for Capoue, has played more games for both Toulouse and France.

When Cabaye joined Newcastle, he was just a year older, had won the French League and Cup double, played more than Capoue for club and country and cost half the fee of Capoue.

how many top clubs are run sustainably? if you can spend 12 million on one player with your paltry attendances/cash in through games etc then surely you cant be? Its the sky money that pays for all of it these days is it not? Tan im sure will spend every penny of it whereas you might not be able or are you?

how many top clubs are run sustainably? if you can spend 12 million on one player with your paltry attendances/cash in through games etc then surely you cant be? Its the sky money that pays for all of it these days is it not? Tan im sure will spend every penny of it whereas you might not be able or are you?

We are run sustainably, we had a projected profit for 2011/12 of around £30 million. This summer we've spent just over £20 million. We're able to spend £12 million on an individual as his wages are manageable.

In our first year we spent just over £8 million in total and made £14.6 million with our highest wages around £25k a week, you were paying the likes of Craig Bellamy and Fraizer Campbell around £35k a week in the Championship. It looks like your prepared to pay £50-60k a week on wages, and your looking to spend over £25 million in transfer fees.

Many Premier League clubs debt has been manageable on the way to getting in to the Premier League, but the club feels it needs to spend more than it can afford (usually in wages) in order to stay in the league (the likes of Fulham, Wigan, Portsmouth, Bolton and Blackburn). You look like your going to fit in to this category, especially considering you managed to rack up a much higher debt than any of these clubs managed to get to on your way to getting in the division.

how many top clubs are run sustainably? if you can spend 12 million on one player with your paltry attendances/cash in through games etc then surely you cant be? Its the sky money that pays for all of it these days is it not? Tan im sure will spend every penny of it whereas you might not be able or are you?

We are run sustainably, we had a projected profit for 2011/12 of around £30 million. This summer we've spent just over £20 million. We're able to spend £12 million on an individual as his wages are manageable.

In our first year we spent just over £8 million in total and made £14.6 million with our highest wages around £25k a week, you were paying the likes of Craig Bellamy and Fraizer Campbell around £35k a week in the Championship. It looks like your prepared to pay £50-60k a week on wages, and your looking to spend over £25 million in transfer fees.

Many Premier League clubs debt has been manageable on the way to getting in to the Premier League, but the club feels it needs to spend more than it can afford (usually in wages) in order to stay in the league (the likes of Fulham, Wigan, Portsmouth, Bolton and Blackburn). You look like your going to fit in to this category, especially considering you managed to rack up a much higher debt than any of these clubs managed to get to on your way to getting in the division.

we are debt free (almost) now though...lots of clubs borrow beyond their means, even man utd, city, chelsea etc..
whats your wage bill estimate this season then? surely not much diff to ours at the moment? i take it most of your profit income is from TV rights?

how many top clubs are run sustainably? if you can spend 12 million on one player with your paltry attendances/cash in through games etc then surely you cant be? Its the sky money that pays for all of it these days is it not? Tan im sure will spend every penny of it whereas you might not be able or are you?

We are run sustainably, we had a projected profit for 2011/12 of around £30 million. This summer we've spent just over £20 million. We're able to spend £12 million on an individual as his wages are manageable.

In our first year we spent just over £8 million in total and made £14.6 million with our highest wages around £25k a week, you were paying the likes of Craig Bellamy and Fraizer Campbell around £35k a week in the Championship. It looks like your prepared to pay £50-60k a week on wages, and your looking to spend over £25 million in transfer fees.

Many Premier League clubs debt has been manageable on the way to getting in to the Premier League, but the club feels it needs to spend more than it can afford (usually in wages) in order to stay in the league (the likes of Fulham, Wigan, Portsmouth, Bolton and Blackburn). You look like your going to fit in to this category, especially considering you managed to rack up a much higher debt than any of these clubs managed to get to on your way to getting in the division.

we are debt free (almost) now though...lots of clubs borrow beyond their means, even man utd, city, chelsea etc..
whats your wage bill estimate this season then? surely not much diff to ours at the moment? i take it most of your profit income is from TV rights?

You may become debt free, but not because your being run sustainably. The fact that others spend beyond their means, does not excuse the way your club is run.

I'd guess that our wage bill was similar to your last season, the figures aren't out yet but obviously we got a lot more income than you last season. The TV rights do form a large part of our income, allowing us to increase our wages and the money we can spend on players but the TV rights haven't stopped clubs from making loses season after season and being run unsustainably in spite of them.

You'd do very well to finish 17th, and there's nothing to suggest that you are competitive at this level, as it stands you are nowhere near good enough to compete at this level.

It amazes me after two seasons in the premier league that the jacks are now experts on how things are run there, on what grounds do you come up with the above comment??? because i can only go on previous championship teams getting promoted and in the last three to four years they have done ok, as for yourselves you went up through the lottery of the play offs, spent very little money and stayed up without much problem, we on the other hand won the championship, after going top in november and staying there, have brought in two quality out field players so far with matbe four or five more to come, we'll be fine this coming season, of that i am certain.

You'd do very well to finish 17th, and there's nothing to suggest that you are competitive at this level, as it stands you are nowhere near good enough to compete at this level.

It amazes me after two seasons in the premier league that the jacks are now experts on how things are run there, on what grounds do you come up with the above comment??? because i can only go on previous championship teams getting promoted and in the last three to four years they have done ok, as for yourselves you went up through the lottery of the play offs, spent very little money and stayed up without much problem, we on the other hand won the championship, after going top in november and staying there, have brought in two quality out field players so far with matbe four or five more to come, we'll be fine this coming season, of that i am certain.

On the grounds that you are clearly are yet to compete at this level, and just haven't shown that you are able to compete with Premier League teams yet. I don't think your current squad is good enough, and do you really think you will be good enough if you don't sign any more players? Your pretty naive if that's the case.

Reading and QPR also won the Championship, it's not how you get in to the division it's how you adapt to it and Palace and Hull as it stands have done a lot more business in the transfer market. It's the fact that you seem to be fine which is worrying for you, when the Premier League season starts and you see the quality of the opposition then you'll have hoped to have done a lot more than what you've done so far in the transfer market.

Spurs buying Chiriches

You'd do very well to finish 17th, and there's nothing to suggest that you are competitive at this level, as it stands you are nowhere near good enough to compete at this level.

It amazes me after two seasons in the premier league that the jacks are now experts on how things are run there, on what grounds do you come up with the above comment??? because i can only go on previous championship teams getting promoted and in the last three to four years they have done ok, as for yourselves you went up through the lottery of the play offs, spent very little money and stayed up without much problem, we on the other hand won the championship, after going top in november and staying there, have brought in two quality out field players so far with matbe four or five more to come, we'll be fine this coming season, of that i am certain.

On the grounds that you are clearly are yet to compete at this level, and just haven't shown that you are able to compete with Premier League teams yet. I don't think your current squad is good enough, and do you really think you will be good enough if you don't sign any more players? Your pretty naive if that's the case.

Reading and QPR also won the Championship, it's not how you get in to the division it's how you adapt to it and Palace and Hull as it stands have done a lot more business in the transfer market. It's the fact that you seem to be fine which is worrying for you, when the Premier League season starts and you see the quality of the opposition then you'll have hoped to have done a lot more than what you've done so far in the transfer market.

Lay off the smack son the transfer window is open for another month, palace and hull have signed nobodies and that shows in their pre season results. Do you know anything about football or just a troll?

You'd do very well to finish 17th, and there's nothing to suggest that you are competitive at this level, as it stands you are nowhere near good enough to compete at this level.

It amazes me after two seasons in the premier league that the jacks are now experts on how things are run there, on what grounds do you come up with the above comment??? because i can only go on previous championship teams getting promoted and in the last three to four years they have done ok, as for yourselves you went up through the lottery of the play offs, spent very little money and stayed up without much problem, we on the other hand won the championship, after going top in november and staying there, have brought in two quality out field players so far with matbe four or five more to come, we'll be fine this coming season, of that i am certain.

On the grounds that you are clearly are yet to compete at this level, and just haven't shown that you are able to compete with Premier League teams yet. I don't think your current squad is good enough, and do you really think you will be good enough if you don't sign any more players? Your pretty naive if that's the case.

Reading and QPR also won the Championship, it's not how you get in to the division it's how you adapt to it and Palace and Hull as it stands have done a lot more business in the transfer market. It's the fact that you seem to be fine which is worrying for you, when the Premier League season starts and you see the quality of the opposition then you'll have hoped to have done a lot more than what you've done so far in the transfer market.

I've already stated above that maybe four or five more players will come in, which they will, as for the business that palace and hull have done already, have you seen the players they have brought in??? i wouldn't be happy with any of them for my club, again going back to when you started life in the premiership, monk and tate were part of your defence for most of the season, that in itself tells me we'll be ok.

You'd do very well to finish 17th, and there's nothing to suggest that you are competitive at this level, as it stands you are nowhere near good enough to compete at this level.

It amazes me after two seasons in the premier league that the jacks are now experts on how things are run there, on what grounds do you come up with the above comment??? because i can only go on previous championship teams getting promoted and in the last three to four years they have done ok, as for yourselves you went up through the lottery of the play offs, spent very little money and stayed up without much problem, we on the other hand won the championship, after going top in november and staying there, have brought in two quality out field players so far with matbe four or five more to come, we'll be fine this coming season, of that i am certain.

On the grounds that you are clearly are yet to compete at this level, and just haven't shown that you are able to compete with Premier League teams yet. I don't think your current squad is good enough, and do you really think you will be good enough if you don't sign any more players? Your pretty naive if that's the case.

Reading and QPR also won the Championship, it's not how you get in to the division it's how you adapt to it and Palace and Hull as it stands have done a lot more business in the transfer market. It's the fact that you seem to be fine which is worrying for you, when the Premier League season starts and you see the quality of the opposition then you'll have hoped to have done a lot more than what you've done so far in the transfer market.

Lay off the smack son the transfer window is open for another month, palace and hull have signed nobodies and that shows in their pre season results. Do you know anything about football or just a troll?

Somebody on here stated we bought nobodies last summer

The Premier League season starts in a couple of weeks, and your no where near ready, you should be worried. I'd much rather be in our position of getting all the business done early so the players are settled in at the club come the start of the season.

Hull have signed Curtis Davies, Maynor Figueroa, Danny Graham and Steve Harper - all with Premier League experience and George Boyd, Allan McGregor and Yannick Sagbo are all astute signings as well. Hardly nobodies. They've improved their squad through the side and given themselves a fighting chance.

Palace have signed Kevin Phillips, Jerome Thomas and Stephen Dobbie with Premier League experience, Jose Campana is a very good signing and Dwight Gayle is a decent signing as well.

They're progressing a lot more than you, and the past shows that even though you may have done better in the Championship it doesn't count for anything in the Premier League next season.

Yannick Sagbo ? Haaahaa the fuca got a 1 in 5 goal to game ratio, ye fukin awsum i am shittin it for when he comes to the CCS hahahaaaaa

And did you say kevin phillips and dobbie? Ahhhahahaaaaahahah

And did you say kevin phillips and dobbie? Ahhhahahaaaaahahah

Kevin Phillips has almost 100 Premier League goals, he's an astute signing who will do a job and calling him a nobody is laughable.

Stephen Dobbie has excelled in the Championship, he's been a part of three promoted sides in the last four seasons and has done well at the same level that most of your players have done well at.

Sagbo offers a lot more than just goals and is a very good footballer, he's a cheap signing for Hull but an improvement on what they already have.

You scrutinize these signings, but how much did you pay for Cornelius again based on one season in the Danish league?

You must be on smack, Hull have scored 1 goal in 3 pre season games and palace lost 3-0 to crawley, ye their fukin goal machines haaaahaha fuk off u tramp u know fucall

Kevin Phillips has almost 100 Premier League goals, he's an astute signing who will do a job and calling him a nobody is laughable.

Stephen Dobbie has excelled in the Championship, he's been a part of three promoted sides in the last four seasons and has done well at the same level that most of your players have done well at.

Sagbo offers a lot more than just goals and is a very good footballer, he's a cheap signing for Hull but an improvement on what they already have.

You scrutinize these signings, but how much did you pay for Cornelius again based on one season in the Danish league?

And of course, you'd be congratulating us on our shrewd signings if we'd signed the players that Palace or Hull have this summer .

Just face up to the truth - logic, even handedness and balance flies out the window with you when Cardiff City are involved don't they.