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Re: cardiff fans abusing women and kids swans fans

Sun Jul 28, 2013 9:19 am

Wayne S wrote:
abertawe dragon wrote:K thanx for your help BUTTY BUTT I think I got it right I'm working in cardiff and that's all I seem to hear u r are all BUTTY BUTTS.


Case closed. :lol:

wayne,do me a favour pal.translate that for me . :laughing6:

Re: cardiff fans abusing women and kids swans fans

Sun Jul 28, 2013 9:20 am

The jacks are the scum of the earth when they have decent numbers. They attacked the family enclosure at ninian park, they sang hillsborough songs at anfield in 1990 and they have a history of racial abuse and doing nazi salutes. Hitler would turn in his grave if he knew his once powerful and brutal regime was being copied by a bunch of scruffy, scum fuckers!

Re: cardiff fans abusing women and kids swans fans

Sun Jul 28, 2013 9:29 am

jtc wrote:
Wayne S wrote:
abertawe dragon wrote:K thanx for your help BUTTY BUTT I think I got it right I'm working in cardiff and that's all I seem to hear u r are all BUTTY BUTTS.


Case closed. :lol:

wayne,do me a favour pal.translate that for me . :laughing6:


I don't speak "lying toe rag". Perhaps we should put it through Google Translate. :D

Re: cardiff fans abusing women and kids swans fans

Sun Jul 28, 2013 9:33 am

murphy wrote:The jacks are the scum of the earth when they have decent numbers. They attacked the family enclosure at ninian park, they sang hillsborough songs at anfield in 1990 and they have a history of racial abuse and doing nazi salutes. Hitler would turn in his grave if he knew his once powerful and brutal regime was being copied by a bunch of scruffy, scum fuckers!

I was at that game and it was not family's or kids next to the swans fans if you dont belive me have a look on utube, and what about your fans chanting istanbul at leeds fans or the horse impressions to swansea fans thats why no one lkes cardiff scum of the earth.

Re: cardiff fans abusing women and kids swans fans

Sun Jul 28, 2013 9:36 am

Wayne S wrote:
jtc wrote:
Wayne S wrote:
abertawe dragon wrote:K thanx for your help BUTTY BUTT I think I got it right I'm working in cardiff and that's all I seem to hear u r are all BUTTY BUTTS.


Case closed. :lol:

wayne,do me a favour pal.translate that for me . :laughing6:


I don't speak "lying toe rag". Perhaps we should put it through Google Translate. :D

:laughing6: iv learnt a lot of the lingo on here mate but that lost me :lol: google translate?it sounds like some lost tribal dialect.doubt google have heard of it :laughing6:

Re: cardiff fans abusing women and kids swans fans

Sun Jul 28, 2013 9:37 am

cardiff fans abusing women and kids swans fans

I was on the 9:25 train from cardiff i never seen any of this thread headline although i did see steve (sbf1) and others off this very forum talking to the few jacks in the same carriage as us having a laugh about stuff so it must be other trains this thread headline come from :ayatollah:

Re: cardiff fans abusing women and kids swans fans

Sun Jul 28, 2013 9:44 am

lj1985 wrote:
murphy wrote:The jacks are the scum of the earth when they have decent numbers. They attacked the family enclosure at ninian park, they sang hillsborough songs at anfield in 1990 and they have a history of racial abuse and doing nazi salutes. Hitler would turn in his grave if he knew his once powerful and brutal regime was being copied by a bunch of scruffy, scum fuckers!

I was at that game and it was not family's or kids next to the swans fans if you dont belive me have a look on utube, and what about your fans chanting istanbul at leeds fans or the horse impressions to swansea fans thats why no one lkes cardiff scum of the earth.


So you're saying that all accounts of children having chairs thrown at them is rubbish? I was there as a youngster and I can catagoricly confirm that I had to duck a few seats thrown down from the grandstand. Judging by your lack of knowledge on a lot of things lately, I think you didn't watch the swans til a few years ago properly.

Re: cardiff fans abusing women and kids swans fans

Sun Jul 28, 2013 9:50 am

Bluebird_87 wrote:
lj1985 wrote:
murphy wrote:The jacks are the scum of the earth when they have decent numbers. They attacked the family enclosure at ninian park, they sang hillsborough songs at anfield in 1990 and they have a history of racial abuse and doing nazi salutes. Hitler would turn in his grave if he knew his once powerful and brutal regime was being copied by a bunch of scruffy, scum fuckers!

I was at that game and it was not family's or kids next to the swans fans if you dont belive me have a look on utube, and what about your fans chanting istanbul at leeds fans or the horse impressions to swansea fans thats why no one lkes cardiff scum of the earth.


So you're saying that all accounts of children having chairs thrown at them is rubbish? I was there as a youngster and I can catagoricly confirm that I had to duck a few seats thrown down from the grandstand. Judging by your lack of knowledge on a lot of things lately, I think you didn't watch the swans til a few years ago properly.

Have a look on utube its there for all to see. How old were you at that game, And what lack of knowledge :?:

Re: cardiff fans abusing women and kids swans fans

Sun Jul 28, 2013 10:09 am

lj1985 wrote:
Bluebird_87 wrote:
lj1985 wrote:
murphy wrote:The jacks are the scum of the earth when they have decent numbers. They attacked the family enclosure at ninian park, they sang hillsborough songs at anfield in 1990 and they have a history of racial abuse and doing nazi salutes. Hitler would turn in his grave if he knew his once powerful and brutal regime was being copied by a bunch of scruffy, scum fuckers!

I was at that game and it was not family's or kids next to the swans fans if you dont belive me have a look on utube, and what about your fans chanting istanbul at leeds fans or the horse impressions to swansea fans thats why no one lkes cardiff scum of the earth.


So you're saying that all accounts of children having chairs thrown at them is rubbish? I was there as a youngster and I can catagoricly confirm that I had to duck a few seats thrown down from the grandstand. Judging by your lack of knowledge on a lot of things lately, I think you didn't watch the swans til a few years ago properly.

Have a look on utube its there for all to see. How old were you at that game, And what lack of knowledge :?:


I would have been about 8 maybe 9 and was with my grandfather, one of my first memories actually at football. Having to duck chairs being thrown down from the grandstand and my grandfather telling me to duck. Quite awful really but there we are. If you were there you would have seen all this but you weren't, just like all your other arguements. They're based on YouTube. I think personally you are trying to catch up on being a fan after all the years not supporting them. My opinion.

Re: cardiff fans abusing women and kids swans fans

Sun Jul 28, 2013 10:14 am

lj1985 wrote:
murphy wrote:The jacks are the scum of the earth when they have decent numbers. They attacked the family enclosure at ninian park, they sang hillsborough songs at anfield in 1990 and they have a history of racial abuse and doing nazi salutes. Hitler would turn in his grave if he knew his once powerful and brutal regime was being copied by a bunch of scruffy, scum fuckers!

I was at that game and it was not family's or kids next to the swans fans if you dont belive me have a look on utube, and what about your fans chanting istanbul at leeds fans or the horse impressions to swansea fans thats why no one lkes cardiff scum of the earth.


A 10 year old cardiff fan was injured that night by you lot. Yes, our fans are guilty of sick chants, so are yours.

Re: cardiff fans abusing women and kids swans fans

Sun Jul 28, 2013 10:20 am

Bluebird_87 wrote:
lj1985 wrote:
Bluebird_87 wrote:
lj1985 wrote:
murphy wrote:The jacks are the scum of the earth when they have decent numbers. They attacked the family enclosure at ninian park, they sang hillsborough songs at anfield in 1990 and they have a history of racial abuse and doing nazi salutes. Hitler would turn in his grave if he knew his once powerful and brutal regime was being copied by a bunch of scruffy, scum fuckers!

I was at that game and it was not family's or kids next to the swans fans if you dont belive me have a look on utube, and what about your fans chanting istanbul at leeds fans or the horse impressions to swansea fans thats why no one lkes cardiff scum of the earth.


So you're saying that all accounts of children having chairs thrown at them is rubbish? I was there as a youngster and I can catagoricly confirm that I had to duck a few seats thrown down from the grandstand. Judging by your lack of knowledge on a lot of things lately, I think you didn't watch the swans til a few years ago properly.

Have a look on utube its there for all to see. How old were you at that game, And what lack of knowledge :?:


I would have been about 8 maybe 9 and was with my grandfather, one of my first memories actually at football. Having to duck chairs being thrown down from the grandstand and my grandfather telling me to duck. Quite awful really but there we are. If you were there you would have seen all this but you weren't, just like all your other arguements. They're based on YouTube. I think personally you are trying to catch up on being a fan after all the years not supporting them. My opinion.

Well i was there end of, train to cardiff central then the police put us on another train from cardiff central to the station near ninian park, in fact i think its called ninian park station if i was not there i wouldn't say i was there would i :roll:

Re: cardiff fans abusing women and kids swans fans

Sun Jul 28, 2013 10:22 am

murphy wrote:
lj1985 wrote:
murphy wrote:The jacks are the scum of the earth when they have decent numbers. They attacked the family enclosure at ninian park, they sang hillsborough songs at anfield in 1990 and they have a history of racial abuse and doing nazi salutes. Hitler would turn in his grave if he knew his once powerful and brutal regime was being copied by a bunch of scruffy, scum fuckers!

I was at that game and it was not family's or kids next to the swans fans if you dont belive me have a look on utube, and what about your fans chanting istanbul at leeds fans or the horse impressions to swansea fans thats why no one lkes cardiff scum of the earth.


A 10 year old cardiff fan was injured that night by you lot. Yes, our fans are guilty of sick chants, so are yours.

Dont tell me your mate told you, just like all the other info you get. :lol:

Re: cardiff fans abusing women and kids swans fans

Sun Jul 28, 2013 10:24 am

lj1985 wrote:
murphy wrote:
lj1985 wrote:
murphy wrote:The jacks are the scum of the earth when they have decent numbers. They attacked the family enclosure at ninian park, they sang hillsborough songs at anfield in 1990 and they have a history of racial abuse and doing nazi salutes. Hitler would turn in his grave if he knew his once powerful and brutal regime was being copied by a bunch of scruffy, scum fuckers!

I was at that game and it was not family's or kids next to the swans fans if you dont belive me have a look on utube, and what about your fans chanting istanbul at leeds fans or the horse impressions to swansea fans thats why no one lkes cardiff scum of the earth.


A 10 year old cardiff fan was injured that night by you lot. Yes, our fans are guilty of sick chants, so are yours.

Dont tell me your mate told you, just like all the other info you get. :lol:


No, he told me himself and showed me the scar on his head. Jacks = child beating scum!

Re: cardiff fans abusing women and kids swans fans

Sun Jul 28, 2013 10:34 am

murphy wrote:
lj1985 wrote:
murphy wrote:
lj1985 wrote:
murphy wrote:The jacks are the scum of the earth when they have decent numbers. They attacked the family enclosure at ninian park, they sang hillsborough songs at anfield in 1990 and they have a history of racial abuse and doing nazi salutes. Hitler would turn in his grave if he knew his once powerful and brutal regime was being copied by a bunch of scruffy, scum fuckers!

I was at that game and it was not family's or kids next to the swans fans if you dont belive me have a look on utube, and what about your fans chanting istanbul at leeds fans or the horse impressions to swansea fans thats why no one lkes cardiff scum of the earth.


A 10 year old cardiff fan was injured that night by you lot. Yes, our fans are guilty of sick chants, so are yours.

Dont tell me your mate told you, just like all the other info you get. :lol:


No, he told me himself and showed me the scar on his head. Jacks = child beating scum!

Do you still belive in father Xmas, because im sure your mother at one point would of told you he's real :laughing6: . Why do you belive everything people tell you. :thumbright:

Re: cardiff fans abusing women and kids swans fans

Sun Jul 28, 2013 10:35 am

murphy wrote:The jacks are the scum of the earth when they have decent numbers. They attacked the family enclosure at ninian park, they sang hillsborough songs at anfield in 1990 and they have a history of racial abuse and doing nazi salutes. Hitler would turn in his grave if he knew his once powerful and brutal regime was being copied by a bunch of scruffy, scum fuckers!

From the man who only this very month made a post taking the piss about terry coles. Only one piece of scum on here and thats you. You were probably part of the mob running through swansea town centre for that fa cup game terrifying shoppers? You were probably the scummy c**t who put the message on the mill stad scoreboard and the cnut who starts the gas noise.
You scum b*stard.

Re: cardiff fans abusing women and kids swans fans

Sun Jul 28, 2013 10:39 am

jackf wrote:
murphy wrote:The jacks are the scum of the earth when they have decent numbers. They attacked the family enclosure at ninian park, they sang hillsborough songs at anfield in 1990 and they have a history of racial abuse and doing nazi salutes. Hitler would turn in his grave if he knew his once powerful and brutal regime was being copied by a bunch of scruffy, scum fuckers!

From the man who only this very month made a post taking the piss about terry coles. Only one piece of scum on here and thats you. You were probably part of the mob running through swansea town centre for that fa cup game terrifying shoppers? You were probably the scummy c**t who put the message on the mill stad scoreboard and the cnut who starts the gas noise.
You scum b*stard.


When have I every posted on here about cole? Prove it.

Re: cardiff fans abusing women and kids swans fans

Sun Jul 28, 2013 10:40 am

murphy wrote:
jackf wrote:
murphy wrote:The jacks are the scum of the earth when they have decent numbers. They attacked the family enclosure at ninian park, they sang hillsborough songs at anfield in 1990 and they have a history of racial abuse and doing nazi salutes. Hitler would turn in his grave if he knew his once powerful and brutal regime was being copied by a bunch of scruffy, scum fuckers!

From the man who only this very month made a post taking the piss about terry coles. Only one piece of scum on here and thats you. You were probably part of the mob running through swansea town centre for that fa cup game terrifying shoppers? You were probably the scummy c**t who put the message on the mill stad scoreboard and the cnut who starts the gas noise.
You scum b*stard.


When have I every posted on here about cole? Prove it.

Gutless as well as scum.

Re: cardiff fans abusing women and kids swans fans

Sun Jul 28, 2013 10:41 am

abertawe dragon wrote:At the reading game yesterday talking to a friend of mine who was on the train to reading when cardiff fans got on at port toilet and Bridgend and cardiff and started abusing swansea fans of which included two women and children you must be so proud of yourselves right HARD NUTS well done.

One thread yesterday saying Cardiff swearing at jack kids in service station. This one is saying Cardiff swearing at women and children on train. :roll:

I smell bullshit of the highest order. If this really did happen where were all the older jacks? Surely they wouldn't stand by and watch this happen? Oh wait a minute.,... The shit houses did apparently if you listen to these two threads that have popped up all of a sudden.

Re: cardiff fans abusing women and kids swans fans

Sun Jul 28, 2013 10:42 am

jackf wrote:
murphy wrote:The jacks are the scum of the earth when they have decent numbers. They attacked the family enclosure at ninian park, they sang hillsborough songs at anfield in 1990 and they have a history of racial abuse and doing nazi salutes. Hitler would turn in his grave if he knew his once powerful and brutal regime was being copied by a bunch of scruffy, scum fuckers!

From the man who only this very month made a post taking the piss about terry coles. Only one piece of scum on here and thats you. You were probably part of the mob running through swansea town centre for that fa cup game terrifying shoppers? You were probably the scummy c**t who put the message on the mill stad scoreboard and the cnut who starts the gas noise.
You scum b*stard.

Your spot on he is scum, and i hope swansea fans do not respond with sick songs/chants about that cardiff fan that got killed at wembley, to make fun of people that have lost their lives goes beyond banter and is sick and makes those people who do it scum.

Re: cardiff fans abusing women and kids swans fans

Sun Jul 28, 2013 10:45 am

lj1985 wrote:
jackf wrote:
murphy wrote:The jacks are the scum of the earth when they have decent numbers. They attacked the family enclosure at ninian park, they sang hillsborough songs at anfield in 1990 and they have a history of racial abuse and doing nazi salutes. Hitler would turn in his grave if he knew his once powerful and brutal regime was being copied by a bunch of scruffy, scum fuckers!

From the man who only this very month made a post taking the piss about terry coles. Only one piece of scum on here and thats you. You were probably part of the mob running through swansea town centre for that fa cup game terrifying shoppers? You were probably the scummy c**t who put the message on the mill stad scoreboard and the cnut who starts the gas noise.
You scum b*stard.

Your spot on he is scum, and i hope swansea fans do not respond with sick songs/chants about that cardiff fan that got killed at wembley, to make fun of people that have lost their lives goes beyond banter and is sick and makes those people who do it scum.


Correct, it is wrong singing sick songs about the deceased, but its not half as bad as attacking a family enclosure.

Re: cardiff fans abusing women and kids swans fans

Sun Jul 28, 2013 10:48 am

lj1985 wrote:
jackf wrote:
murphy wrote:The jacks are the scum of the earth when they have decent numbers. They attacked the family enclosure at ninian park, they sang hillsborough songs at anfield in 1990 and they have a history of racial abuse and doing nazi salutes. Hitler would turn in his grave if he knew his once powerful and brutal regime was being copied by a bunch of scruffy, scum fuckers!

From the man who only this very month made a post taking the piss about terry coles. Only one piece of scum on here and thats you. You were probably part of the mob running through swansea town centre for that fa cup game terrifying shoppers? You were probably the scummy c**t who put the message on the mill stad scoreboard and the cnut who starts the gas noise.
You scum b*stard.

Your spot on he is scum, and i hope swansea fans do not respond with sick songs/chants about that cardiff fan that got killed at wembley, to make fun of people that have lost their lives goes beyond banter and is sick and makes those people who do it scum.

The way we responded to his death was with dignity and respect. Not to mention the lads who got involved in raising money for his family. The difference in reaction to that and alan Davies and terry coles says so much about the difference between the two sets of fans. Sorry I will take that back as many Cardiff fans were disgusted with some of those acts themselves.

Re: cardiff fans abusing women and kids swans fans

Sun Jul 28, 2013 10:49 am

murphy wrote:
lj1985 wrote:
jackf wrote:
murphy wrote:The jacks are the scum of the earth when they have decent numbers. They attacked the family enclosure at ninian park, they sang hillsborough songs at anfield in 1990 and they have a history of racial abuse and doing nazi salutes. Hitler would turn in his grave if he knew his once powerful and brutal regime was being copied by a bunch of scruffy, scum fuckers!

From the man who only this very month made a post taking the piss about terry coles. Only one piece of scum on here and thats you. You were probably part of the mob running through swansea town centre for that fa cup game terrifying shoppers? You were probably the scummy c**t who put the message on the mill stad scoreboard and the cnut who starts the gas noise.
You scum b*stard.

Your spot on he is scum, and i hope swansea fans do not respond with sick songs/chants about that cardiff fan that got killed at wembley, to make fun of people that have lost their lives goes beyond banter and is sick and makes those people who do it scum.


Correct, it is wrong singing sick songs about the deceased, but its not half as bad as attacking a family enclosure.

You just dont get it do you, do you have a low IQ, you must have. :lol:

Re: cardiff fans abusing women and kids swans fans

Sun Jul 28, 2013 10:52 am

jackf wrote:
lj1985 wrote:
jackf wrote:
murphy wrote:The jacks are the scum of the earth when they have decent numbers. They attacked the family enclosure at ninian park, they sang hillsborough songs at anfield in 1990 and they have a history of racial abuse and doing nazi salutes. Hitler would turn in his grave if he knew his once powerful and brutal regime was being copied by a bunch of scruffy, scum fuckers!

From the man who only this very month made a post taking the piss about terry coles. Only one piece of scum on here and thats you. You were probably part of the mob running through swansea town centre for that fa cup game terrifying shoppers? You were probably the scummy c**t who put the message on the mill stad scoreboard and the cnut who starts the gas noise.
You scum b*stard.

Your spot on he is scum, and i hope swansea fans do not respond with sick songs/chants about that cardiff fan that got killed at wembley, to make fun of people that have lost their lives goes beyond banter and is sick and makes those people who do it scum.

The way we responded to his death was with dignity and respect. Not to mention the lads who got involved in raising money for his family. The difference in reaction to that and alan Davies and terry coles says so much about the difference between the two sets of fans. Sorry I will take that back as many Cardiff fans were disgusted with some of those acts themselves.

:notworthy:

Re: cardiff fans abusing women and kids swans fans

Sun Jul 28, 2013 10:56 am

murphy wrote:
lj1985 wrote:
jackf wrote:
murphy wrote:The jacks are the scum of the earth when they have decent numbers. They attacked the family enclosure at ninian park, they sang hillsborough songs at anfield in 1990 and they have a history of racial abuse and doing nazi salutes. Hitler would turn in his grave if he knew his once powerful and brutal regime was being copied by a bunch of scruffy, scum fuckers!

From the man who only this very month made a post taking the piss about terry coles. Only one piece of scum on here and thats you. You were probably part of the mob running through swansea town centre for that fa cup game terrifying shoppers? You were probably the scummy c**t who put the message on the mill stad scoreboard and the cnut who starts the gas noise.
You scum b*stard.

Your spot on he is scum, and i hope swansea fans do not respond with sick songs/chants about that cardiff fan that got killed at wembley, to make fun of people that have lost their lives goes beyond banter and is sick and makes those people who do it scum.


Correct, it is wrong singing sick songs about the deceased, but its not half as bad as attacking a family enclosure.

Do you think they thought lets throw seats at a family enclosure or lets throw seats at those scum animals trying to get at us. Throwing seats is a crazy stupid thing to do. But the biggest problem that night was the old bill and ccfc for putting us in a stand too small for our numbers right next to a family section and the decision to move it from an early boxing day ko to a night game just before xmas when everybody was pissed up. Not excusing the scum elements but if it had been a boxing day am ko and we were in the grange end then the night would have passed relatively trouble free.

Re: cardiff fans abusing women and kids swans fans

Sun Jul 28, 2013 11:00 am

jackf wrote:
lj1985 wrote:
jackf wrote:
murphy wrote:The jacks are the scum of the earth when they have decent numbers. They attacked the family enclosure at ninian park, they sang hillsborough songs at anfield in 1990 and they have a history of racial abuse and doing nazi salutes. Hitler would turn in his grave if he knew his once powerful and brutal regime was being copied by a bunch of scruffy, scum fuckers!

From the man who only this very month made a post taking the piss about terry coles. Only one piece of scum on here and thats you. You were probably part of the mob running through swansea town centre for that fa cup game terrifying shoppers? You were probably the scummy c**t who put the message on the mill stad scoreboard and the cnut who starts the gas noise.
You scum b*stard.

Your spot on he is scum, and i hope swansea fans do not respond with sick songs/chants about that cardiff fan that got killed at wembley, to make fun of people that have lost their lives goes beyond banter and is sick and makes those people who do it scum.

The way we responded to his death was with dignity and respect. Not to mention the lads who got involved in raising money for his family. The difference in reaction to that and alan Davies and terry coles says so much about the difference between the two sets of fans. Sorry I will take that back as many Cardiff fans were disgusted with some of those acts themselves.


Correct, Cardiff fans are the salt of the earth compared to jacks. We don't attack family stands, or do nazi salutes. I was on the train yesterday. Probably over 100 cardiff fans on there and about 20 jacks. No violence or bullying. If it was the other way round, the cardiff fans would have got beaten.

Re: cardiff fans abusing women and kids swans fans

Sun Jul 28, 2013 11:04 am

jackf wrote:
Matt D wrote:I'm sure it would have been EXACTLY the same if the boot was on the other foot. Swansea might be the media darlings at the moment with their passing triangles and 'can't do no wrong' owner, but they've got a minority of arseholes following them as well...

The only difference is ours as you say are a minority, yours a majority. Top of the banning league and with one season of top flight football to come that figure will shoot up.


Family club of the year two years running. Majority, Jesus Christ. Piss off bell end.

Re: cardiff fans abusing women and kids swans fans

Sun Jul 28, 2013 11:06 am

What was the song they used to sing? "owned by a paki?" holier than thou our friends down west

Re: cardiff fans abusing women and kids swans fans

Sun Jul 28, 2013 11:19 am

I'd also like to point out that Cardiff fans don't allow TV cameras onto their buses and talk about being hooligans, brag about running chester and big up their prada tops.

Re: cardiff fans abusing women and kids swans fans

Sun Jul 28, 2013 11:34 am

cardiff 74 wrote:at least we dont have to heads and six fingers like you gypo inbreds :lol: :lol:


did a 10 year old post these comments. shocking, letting yourself down im afraid.

Re: cardiff fans abusing women and kids swans fans

Sun Jul 28, 2013 3:33 pm

There was no abuse of any women and kids from the Port Talbot Bluebirds. I was on the train and there were 4 jacks also in the same carriage as us who also didn't get abused and were chatting with the Cardiff fans from Neath Port Talbot. The singing/ banter started from supporters getting on at Cardiff and even then there was no abuse aimed at this woman who walked through us to go the buffet which she did on a few occasions and there were about 15 other jacks on the train and nothing happened. The only trouble that happens there now is when you jacks go looking for people from Neath Port Talbot after the train has pulled out of Bridgend.