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Re: Comment on BU

Wed Jul 24, 2013 8:43 pm

JonCCFC wrote:
AbsolutelyFearless wrote:
JonCCFC wrote:That's a comment from one person who the group.

You wouldn't stop supporting Cardiff City because a Cardiff fan murdered someone.

Without doubt the silliest reasoning I've ever read.

You know I'm right

Difference is the actions of people part of a group are talking as a part of the group when they have an opinion, it reflects badly on the group.

EG Fred west being a Liverpool fan would not reflect badly on the football club because he was a murderer...

Re: Comment on BU

Wed Jul 24, 2013 8:49 pm

JonCCFC wrote:
Jules wrote:
JonCCFC wrote:
Jules wrote:
JonCCFC wrote:That's a comment from one person who the group.

You wouldn't stop supporting Cardiff City because a Cardiff fan murdered someone.


so do you think its a stupid comment?

Yes, death isn't something to joke about



not clutching at any straws, I just asked you a simple question, which you answered. so what straws are we talking about?

I wasn't talking about you.


ok :thumbup:

Re: Comment on BU

Wed Jul 24, 2013 8:57 pm

Truly sickening.

Re: Comment on BU

Wed Jul 24, 2013 8:58 pm

Super Kev wrote:
JonCCFC wrote:
Super Kev wrote:
JonCCFC wrote:
Super Kev wrote:
JonCCFC wrote:That's a comment from one person who the group.

You wouldn't stop supporting Cardiff City because a Cardiff fan murdered someone.


:?

Confused?


More like bemused. I agree with AF, that is the most stupid reasoning I have ever read.

The example doesn't matter. You shouldn't tarnish an organization with the same brush for the actions of one person.

But I wouldn't expect you to understand that.


All I said was you used idiotic reasoning.

I wouldn't expect you to understand much to do with City if I'm honest.

Jon: "I hate the rebrand"
*Buys City top with new, rebranded badge, and puts even more money in Tan's pocket*.

Leave it there now Jon.

Explain, how is it "idiotic" in any way? It would be "idiotic" if I was wrong, but I'm not.

That has no relevance to the thread at all so I have no idea why you said that, but I'll explain it to you again anyway.

- I hate the red and the colours of a football club should never change
- I don't like the badge but I can understand that badges change at all clubs, just look at the Daily Mail article

I don't care whether that means "I hate the rebrand" or not. You decide.

Re: Comment on BU

Wed Jul 24, 2013 9:01 pm

AbsolutelyFearless wrote:
JonCCFC wrote:
AbsolutelyFearless wrote:
JonCCFC wrote:That's a comment from one person who the group.

You wouldn't stop supporting Cardiff City because a Cardiff fan murdered someone.

Without doubt the silliest reasoning I've ever read.

You know I'm right

Difference is the actions of people part of a group are talking as a part of the group when they have an opinion, it reflects badly on the group.

EG Fred west being a Liverpool fan would not reflect badly on the football club because he was a murderer...

well...

Re: Comment on BU

Wed Jul 24, 2013 9:02 pm

citybluechris wrote:Nice way to get more members when current members sprout shit like that

I support em.But then i am intelligent enough to know that one member does,nt represent an organisation.Do you blame the whole board of directors when Tan makes one of his classic gaffs. :lol:

Re: Comment on BU

Wed Jul 24, 2013 9:10 pm

Pant_yr_awel bluebird wrote:
citybluechris wrote:Nice way to get more members when current members sprout shit like that

I support em.But then i am intelligent enough to know that one member does,nt represent an organisation.Do you blame the whole board of directors when Tan makes one of his classic gaffs. :lol:

Its been proven that its a lot more than a few...and THATS the point.

Re: Comment on BU

Wed Jul 24, 2013 9:11 pm

AbsolutelyFearless wrote:
AbsolutelyFearless wrote:
JonCCFC wrote:
AbsolutelyFearless wrote:
JonCCFC wrote:That's a comment from one person who the group.

You wouldn't stop supporting Cardiff City because a Cardiff fan murdered someone.

Without doubt the silliest reasoning I've ever read.

You know I'm right

Difference is the actions of people part of a group are talking as a part of the group when they have an opinion, it reflects badly on the group.

EG Fred west being a Liverpool fan would not reflect badly on the football club because he was a murderer...

well...

Didn't notice your post.

Just because someone's part of a group, it doesn't mean their opinions on all matters reflect the whole of the group, the only people whose comments may reflect what a group is about are those who lead the group. In Bluebirds Unite's case, that would be Sian Branson. The reason they're part of Bluebirds Unite is because they want blue back, that's it.

My point is, being part of a group is no different to being a supporter of Cardiff City, as surely you feel part of the club?

Re: Comment on BU

Wed Jul 24, 2013 9:24 pm

JonCCFC wrote:
AbsolutelyFearless wrote:
AbsolutelyFearless wrote:
JonCCFC wrote:
AbsolutelyFearless wrote:
JonCCFC wrote:That's a comment from one person who the group.

You wouldn't stop supporting Cardiff City because a Cardiff fan murdered someone.

Without doubt the silliest reasoning I've ever read.

You know I'm right

Difference is the actions of people part of a group are talking as a part of the group when they have an opinion, it reflects badly on the group.

EG Fred west being a Liverpool fan would not reflect badly on the football club because he was a murderer...

well...

Didn't notice your post.

Just because someone's part of a group, it doesn't mean their opinions on all matters reflect the whole of the group, the only people whose comments may reflect what a group is about are those who lead the group. In Bluebirds Unite's case, that would be Sian Branson. The reason they're part of Bluebirds Unite is because they want blue back, that's it.

My point is, being part of a group is no different to being a supporter of Cardiff City, as surely you feel part of the club?

Like i have said on here before, i admire the hard work thats gone in and wish them all the best, but i cannot and will not support them and that is because i cant put my name to something thats got LOADS of idiots posting crap all the time in the group, if they are not the views of the group then surely the person making the comments is not a part of the group as they do not share the views of the group so just remove them from the group, simple. That way you keep it about blue and keep it full of people who care and you may then attract more support and get a few like me changing their tune.

I wont be part of a group that has members calling other city fans stuff such as bastards and not true supporters, and people making comments about ANYONE being in a car crash with "lol" after it implying it is actually funny.

Re: Comment on BU

Wed Jul 24, 2013 9:24 pm

JonCCFC wrote:
AbsolutelyFearless wrote:
AbsolutelyFearless wrote:
JonCCFC wrote:
AbsolutelyFearless wrote:
JonCCFC wrote:That's a comment from one person who the group.

You wouldn't stop supporting Cardiff City because a Cardiff fan murdered someone.

Without doubt the silliest reasoning I've ever read.

You know I'm right

Difference is the actions of people part of a group are talking as a part of the group when they have an opinion, it reflects badly on the group.

EG Fred west being a Liverpool fan would not reflect badly on the football club because he was a murderer...

well...

Didn't notice your post.

Just because someone's part of a group, it doesn't mean their opinions on all matters reflect the whole of the group, the only people whose comments may reflect what a group is about are those who lead the group. In Bluebirds Unite's case, that would be Sian Branson. The reason they're part of Bluebirds Unite is because they want blue back, that's it.

My point is, being part of a group is no different to being a supporter of Cardiff City, as surely you feel part of the club?


what do you think about sians comments,should she resign?

Re: Comment on BU

Wed Jul 24, 2013 10:06 pm

AbsolutelyFearless wrote:Like i have said on here before, i admire the hard work thats gone in and wish them all the best, but i cannot and will not support them and that is because i cant put my name to something thats got LOADS of idiots posting crap all the time in the group, if they are not the views of the group then surely the person making the comments is not a part of the group as they do not share the views of the group so just remove them from the group, simple. That way you keep it about blue and keep it full of people who care and you may then attract more support and get a few like me changing their tune.

I wont be part of a group that has members calling other city fans stuff such as bastards and not true supporters, and people making comments about ANYONE being in a car crash with "lol" after it implying it is actually funny.

All members are part of the group because they all want one thing, Cardiff to return to blue. All other comments from members are irrelevant to what the group is about as it doesn't reflect what the whole group think, it reflects what that individual person thinks. Some may want Tan to leave, some may want him to stay. It doesn't matter who's part of the group or what other people think, the only point in being part of the group is because you want Cardiff to play in blue.

It's no different to being a supporter of Cardiff City in my opinion.

Re: Comment on BU

Wed Jul 24, 2013 10:13 pm

JonCCFC wrote:
AbsolutelyFearless wrote:Like i have said on here before, i admire the hard work thats gone in and wish them all the best, but i cannot and will not support them and that is because i cant put my name to something thats got LOADS of idiots posting crap all the time in the group, if they are not the views of the group then surely the person making the comments is not a part of the group as they do not share the views of the group so just remove them from the group, simple. That way you keep it about blue and keep it full of people who care and you may then attract more support and get a few like me changing their tune.

I wont be part of a group that has members calling other city fans stuff such as bastards and not true supporters, and people making comments about ANYONE being in a car crash with "lol" after it implying it is actually funny.

All members are part of the group because they all want one thing, Cardiff to return to blue. All other comments from members are irrelevant to what the group is about as it doesn't reflect what the whole group think, it reflects what that individual person thinks. Some may want Tan to leave, some may want him to stay. It doesn't matter who's part of the group or what other people think, the only point in being part of the group is because you want Cardiff to play in blue.

It's no different to being a supporter of Cardiff City in my opinion.

I'd love a return to blue.

Your wasting your time sadly fella as my mind is made up, so obviously people making them kind of comments do have a bad effect as I no longer chose to support BU.
Same thing as agreeing with a few points UKIP or BNP make but not voting for them because of the idiot element attached.

Delete the posts and remove persistent offenders..simple.

Re: Comment on BU

Wed Jul 24, 2013 10:27 pm

AbsolutelyFearless wrote:
JonCCFC wrote:
AbsolutelyFearless wrote:Like i have said on here before, i admire the hard work thats gone in and wish them all the best, but i cannot and will not support them and that is because i cant put my name to something thats got LOADS of idiots posting crap all the time in the group, if they are not the views of the group then surely the person making the comments is not a part of the group as they do not share the views of the group so just remove them from the group, simple. That way you keep it about blue and keep it full of people who care and you may then attract more support and get a few like me changing their tune.

I wont be part of a group that has members calling other city fans stuff such as bastards and not true supporters, and people making comments about ANYONE being in a car crash with "lol" after it implying it is actually funny.

All members are part of the group because they all want one thing, Cardiff to return to blue. All other comments from members are irrelevant to what the group is about as it doesn't reflect what the whole group think, it reflects what that individual person thinks. Some may want Tan to leave, some may want him to stay. It doesn't matter who's part of the group or what other people think, the only point in being part of the group is because you want Cardiff to play in blue.

It's no different to being a supporter of Cardiff City in my opinion.

I'd love a return to blue.

Your wasting your time sadly fella as my mind is made up, so obviously people making them kind of comments do have a bad effect as I no longer chose to support BU.
Same thing as agreeing with a few points UKIP or BNP make but not voting for them because of the idiot element attached.

Delete the posts and remove persistent offenders..simple.

I'm not wasting my time, I don't give a shit whether you support the group or not, I'm just saying that the whole group shouldn't be tarnished with the same brush as the majority of the group are good people.

But I agree they should delete disrespectful and offensive posts and remove persistent offenders.

Re: Comment on BU

Wed Jul 24, 2013 10:50 pm

Stupid comment.. Just left a comment saying how ridiculous it was!

Re: Comment on BU

Wed Jul 24, 2013 10:54 pm

AbsolutelyFearless wrote:
Pant_yr_awel bluebird wrote:
citybluechris wrote:Nice way to get more members when current members sprout shit like that

I support em.But then i am intelligent enough to know that one member does,nt represent an organisation.Do you blame the whole board of directors when Tan makes one of his classic gaffs. :lol:

Its been proven that its a lot more than a few...and THATS the point.


never said one member represents an organisation, current members have said horrible things like this and you wont get members joining when seeing stuff like that

Re: Comment on BU

Wed Jul 24, 2013 10:54 pm

Fooking hell scraping the bottom of the barrell for an attack on Bluebirds Unite. A throw away comment FFS. Some on here are such goody two shoes :roll: :roll: :roll:

Re: Comment on BU

Wed Jul 24, 2013 10:56 pm

You wouldn't stop supporting Cardiff City because a Cardiff fan murdered someone.[/quote]
Without doubt the silliest reasoning I've ever read.[/quote]
You know I'm right[/quote]
Difference is the actions of people part of a group are talking as a part of the group when they have an opinion, it reflects badly on the group.

EG Fred west being a Liverpool fan would not reflect badly on the football club because he was a murderer...[/quote]
well...[/quote]
Didn't notice your post.

Just because someone's part of a group, it doesn't mean their opinions on all matters reflect the whole of the group, the only people whose comments may reflect what a group is about are those who lead the group. In Bluebirds Unite's case, that would be Sian Branson. The reason they're part of Bluebirds Unite is because they want blue back, that's it.

My point is, being part of a group is no different to being a supporter of Cardiff City, as surely you feel part of the club?[/quote]

what do you think about sians comments,should she resign?[/quote]
Priceless :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: You know when a group is making a difference when you get comments like this

Re: Comment on BU

Wed Jul 24, 2013 10:58 pm

Nuclearblue wrote:Fooking hell scraping the bottom of the barrell for an attack on Bluebirds Unite. A throw away comment FFS. Some on here are such goody two shoes :roll: :roll: :roll:


Some people are out to put Bluebirds Unite down at any given opportunity mate, let them carry on because from where I'm standing all I can see is this group getting more publicity and getting stronger.

Re: Comment on BU

Wed Jul 24, 2013 11:17 pm

Nuclearblue wrote:Fooking hell scraping the bottom of the barrell for an attack on Bluebirds Unite. A throw away comment FFS. Some on here are such goody two shoes :roll: :roll: :roll:

Just looking for excuses to have a go at BU as they know it's getting stronger and stronger

Re: Comment on BU

Wed Jul 24, 2013 11:21 pm

JonCCFC wrote:
Nuclearblue wrote:Fooking hell scraping the bottom of the barrell for an attack on Bluebirds Unite. A throw away comment FFS. Some on here are such goody two shoes :roll: :roll: :roll:

Just looking for excuses to have a go at BU as they know it's getting stronger and stronger

Like f**k it is :lol:

Re: Comment on BU

Wed Jul 24, 2013 11:26 pm

Funny as hell this. The same people saying this one idiot doesn't represent Bluebirds Unite are some of the same that call UKIP racist idiots because one member has gone and done something stupid.

Which way is it? Does one persons actions reflect on a group or not? You can't make up the rules as you go along.

Re: Comment on BU

Wed Jul 24, 2013 11:28 pm

RobJr wrote:They are absolute SCUM.


Massive generalisation there.

We've had hooligans in the past supporting City, does that make us all scum?

:roll:

Re: Comment on BU

Wed Jul 24, 2013 11:30 pm

JonCCFC wrote:
Nuclearblue wrote:Fooking hell scraping the bottom of the barrell for an attack on Bluebirds Unite. A throw away comment FFS. Some on here are such goody two shoes :roll: :roll: :roll:

Just looking for excuses to have a go at BU as they know it's getting stronger and stronger


Was Sian Bransons a throw away comment.She had to make a public apology ffs.

Re: Comment on BU

Wed Jul 24, 2013 11:30 pm

Barry Chuckle wrote:
RobJr wrote:They are absolute SCUM.


Massive generalisation there.

We've had hooligans in the past supporting City, does that make us all scum?

:roll:

Depends which way you drive down the m4 :lol:

Re: Comment on BU

Wed Jul 24, 2013 11:33 pm

You are in a room full of people and someone makes a throw away comment. Some find it funny, some don't find it funny, Those that found it funny find it even funnier because those that don't find it funny get offended.
Thats life but for sure you don't execute everyone in the room because someone is upset.

Re: Comment on BU

Wed Jul 24, 2013 11:36 pm

Although, I have no doubt that throw-away remarks against Tan which are written online are definitleY undermining the group.

This from a BU supporter.

Re: Comment on BU

Wed Jul 24, 2013 11:41 pm

Barry Chuckle wrote:Although, I have no doubt that throw-away remarks against Tan which are written online are definitleY undermining the group.

This from a BU supporter.


well said.
You know deep down all these silly comments do your cause no good at all.

Re: Comment on BU

Wed Jul 24, 2013 11:43 pm

Barry Chuckle wrote:Although, I have no doubt that throw-away remarks against Tan which are written online are definitleY undermining the group.

This from a BU supporter.

Everyone's sense of humour is different Chucks. The secret to it, is tollerance to people with a different sense of humour to your own. :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

Re: Comment on BU

Wed Jul 24, 2013 11:43 pm

redordead wrote:
Barry Chuckle wrote:Although, I have no doubt that throw-away remarks against Tan which are written online are definitleY undermining the group.

This from a BU supporter.


well said.
You know deep down all these silly comments do your cause no good at all.


It's not deep down, it's something I've always freely admitted on here. I've also made it clear in the fb group & on their forum.

:thumbup:

Re: Comment on BU

Wed Jul 24, 2013 11:48 pm

Barry Chuckle wrote:
redordead wrote:
Barry Chuckle wrote:Although, I have no doubt that throw-away remarks against Tan which are written online are definitleY undermining the group.

This from a BU supporter.


well said.
You know deep down all these silly comments do your cause no good at all.


It's not deep down, it's something I've always freely admitted on here. I've also made it clear in the fb group & on their forum.

:thumbup:


Yes you have,fair point.Enjoy your meeting tonight. :thumbup: