Who would welcome Sam back? *POLL*

I was one who voted for him. At the end of the day he did far more for this club than PMG or Ridsdale who both took millions out of the club.

OK I he did some stupid things but his mistake was doing them in public and letting us get to know about them. I'd love to have been a fly on the wall during the days of Ridsdale and Guy.

Risdale never put us within hours of extinction.

I think you will find that he did. Or didn't that High Court winding up order over unpaid tax never happen?

Guy could have seen us through that, that is why the Trust looked at them at the time.

Everyone gives Tan credit as if he was our only chance. I'm not convinced. With Tan in the background Guy was quite happy to let him take the reigns. Don't blame him to be honest but if Tan walked away then I believe Guy had too much to lose and would have stepped in.

I was one who voted for him. At the end of the day he did far more for this club than PMG or Ridsdale who both took millions out of the club.

OK I he did some stupid things but his mistake was doing them in public and letting us get to know about them. I'd love to have been a fly on the wall during the days of Ridsdale and Guy.

I cant believe your saying this

Taking out tens of millions in loans against Cardiff City Fc while telling supporters to their
faces it was his own money was not a mistake. it was a huge fat f*cking lie. Can you think
of a bigger lie Ridsdale or Paul Guy told us?

Your saying Guy and Ridsdale took ''millions out of the Club"

What is Sam Hammam trying to do right now? We ALL know he is Langstone, even the High Court Judge
intimated that it was pretty damn obvious.

Those poor suckers at Waco werent as brainwashed as the Sam Disciples

Paul Guy took the retail park from us, originally the plan was for CCFC to have that as an income stream. Last I heard it was worth £30m+ in retail value plus all the rents since 2008.

Also they made millions charging us 7% on the stadium short funding loan which was only recently paid off. They also had all incomes from Premier Seats and advertising on the main Grandstand. VT and Sam have both been slaughtered for having such an interest rate.

Sam or Langston were owed £30m+ but are settling for a much lower amount.

Ridsdale paid himself excessive salary and bonuses whilst he was here. Remember the £100k stadium completion bonus that no-one else took?

Ridsdale and Guy were the real crooks over the past 10 years but by clever "brain washing" fooled idiots like you into blaming Sam for everything. Pathetic.

I was one who voted for him. At the end of the day he did far more for this club than PMG or Ridsdale who both took millions out of the club.

OK I he did some stupid things but his mistake was doing them in public and letting us get to know about them. I'd love to have been a fly on the wall during the days of Ridsdale and Guy.

I cant believe your saying this

Taking out tens of millions in loans against Cardiff City Fc while telling supporters to their
faces it was his own money was not a mistake. it was a huge fat f*cking lie. Can you think
of a bigger lie Ridsdale or Paul Guy told us?

Your saying Guy and Ridsdale took ''millions out of the Club"

What is Sam Hammam trying to do right now? We ALL know he is Langstone, even the High Court Judge
intimated that it was pretty damn obvious.

Those poor suckers at Waco werent as brainwashed as the Sam Disciples

Paul Guy took the retail park from us, originally the plan was for CCFC to have that as an income stream. Last I heard it was worth £30m+ in retail value plus all the rents since 2008.

Also they made millions charging us 7% on the stadium short funding loan which was only recently paid off. They also had all incomes from Premier Seats and advertising on the main Grandstand. VT and Sam have both been slaughtered for having such an interest rate.

Sam or Langston were owed £30m+ but are settling for a much lower amount.

Ridsdale paid himself excessive salary and bonuses whilst he was here. Remember the £100k stadium completion bonus that no-one else took?

Ridsdale and Guy were the real crooks over the past 10 years but by clever "brain washing" fooled idiots like you into blaming Sam for everything. Pathetic.

You calling him brainwashed is the definition of irony.

I was one who voted for him. At the end of the day he did far more for this club than PMG or Ridsdale who both took millions out of the club.

OK I he did some stupid things but his mistake was doing them in public and letting us get to know about them. I'd love to have been a fly on the wall during the days of Ridsdale and Guy.

Risdale never put us within hours of extinction.

I think you will find that he did. Or didn't that High Court winding up order over unpaid tax never happen?

Guy could have seen us through that, that is why the Trust looked at them at the time.

Everyone gives Tan credit as if he was our only chance. I'm not convinced. With Tan in the background Guy was quite happy to let him take the reigns. Don't blame him to be honest but if Tan walked away then I believe Guy had too much to lose and would have stepped in.

Ian that is supposition, the fact was we were in the High Court and were given only weeks to survive.

I was one who voted for him. At the end of the day he did far more for this club than PMG or Ridsdale who both took millions out of the club.

OK I he did some stupid things but his mistake was doing them in public and letting us get to know about them. I'd love to have been a fly on the wall during the days of Ridsdale and Guy.

I cant believe your saying this

Taking out tens of millions in loans against Cardiff City Fc while telling supporters to their
faces it was his own money was not a mistake. it was a huge fat f*cking lie. Can you think
of a bigger lie Ridsdale or Paul Guy told us?

Your saying Guy and Ridsdale took ''millions out of the Club"

What is Sam Hammam trying to do right now? We ALL know he is Langstone, even the High Court Judge
intimated that it was pretty damn obvious.

Those poor suckers at Waco werent as brainwashed as the Sam Disciples

Paul Guy took the retail park from us, originally the plan was for CCFC to have that as an income stream. Last I heard it was worth £30m+ in retail value plus all the rents since 2008.

Also they made millions charging us 7% on the stadium short funding loan which was only recently paid off. They also had all incomes from Premier Seats and advertising on the main Grandstand. VT and Sam have both been slaughtered for having such an interest rate.

Sam or Langston were owed £30m+ but are settling for a much lower amount.

Ridsdale paid himself excessive salary and bonuses whilst he was here. Remember the £100k stadium completion bonus that no-one else took?

Ridsdale and Guy were the real crooks over the past 10 years but by clever "brain washing" fooled idiots like you into blaming Sam for everything. Pathetic.

You calling him brainwashed is the definition of irony.

Yea irony

I was one who voted for him. At the end of the day he did far more for this club than PMG or Ridsdale who both took millions out of the club.

OK I he did some stupid things but his mistake was doing them in public and letting us get to know about them. I'd love to have been a fly on the wall during the days of Ridsdale and Guy.

I cant believe your saying this

Taking out tens of millions in loans against Cardiff City Fc while telling supporters to their
faces it was his own money was not a mistake. it was a huge fat f*cking lie. Can you think
of a bigger lie Ridsdale or Paul Guy told us?

Your saying Guy and Ridsdale took ''millions out of the Club"

What is Sam Hammam trying to do right now? We ALL know he is Langstone, even the High Court Judge
intimated that it was pretty damn obvious.

Those poor suckers at Waco werent as brainwashed as the Sam Disciples

Paul Guy took the retail park from us, originally the plan was for CCFC to have that as an income stream. Last I heard it was worth £30m+ in retail value plus all the rents since 2008.

TONY , THAT IS BOTH UNTRUE AND LACKING IN ANY LOGIC. HOW CAN YOU SELL ON A RETAIL PARK DEVELOPMENT FOR A CAPITAL SUM TO A DEVELOPER , USE THE CAPITAL SUM TO FUND THE STADIUM BUILD COSTS , AND ALSO TELL THAT DEVELOPER THAT HE CAN`T KEEP THE INCOME STREAM FROM RENTS ON THE SITE HE HAS PURCHASED AND DEVELOPED AT THAT COST?

PAUL GUY TOOK NOTHING FROM THE CLUB IN THIS REGARD (I AM SUPRISED THAT YOU ARE REPEATING CARL`S PREVIOUS ERROR ON THIS THAT HE HAD TO RETRACT IN THE FACE OF A PROBABLE LIBEL CLAIM , PARTICULARLY WHERE YOU CALL PAUL GUY A CROOK IN THIS POST - DANGEROUS LEGAL GROUND). THE FACTS OF THE MATTER ARE THAT SAM HAMMAM (DESPITE WHAT MIGHT HAVE BEEN BEST EFFORTS ON HIS PART) FAILED TO FIND ADEQUATE TENANTS TO MAKE THE RETAIL PARK VIABLE FOR SALE TO A DEVELOPER WHICH WAS CAUSING THE COUNCIL (TOGETHER WITH OTHER RECORDED SEVERE DOUBTS ABOUT HIS BUSINESS ACUMEN) TO RUN OUT OF PATIENCE WITH SAM, SO IN STEPPED PAUL GUY TO MAKE IT HAPPEN. WITHOUT THIS , THE RETAIL PARK COULD NOT HAVE BEEN SOLD AND THE STADIUM NOT HAVE BEEN BUILT.

Also they made millions charging us 7% on the stadium short funding loan which was only recently paid off. They also had all incomes from Premier Seats and advertising on the main Grandstand. VT and Sam have both been slaughtered for having such an interest rate.

7% INTEREST IS A FAIR AND REASONABLE INTEREST RATE FOR ALL 3 PARTIES YOU NAME. PMG DIDN`T "ALSO" HAVE INCOME FROM THE SOURCES YOU MENTION. THE CLUB HAD THAT INCOME AND USED IT TO PAY OFF PMG AS A CREDITOR.

Sam or Langston were owed £30m+ but are settling for a much lower amount.

AND I AM DELIGHTED THIS IS HAPPENING.AS I WOULD HAVE BEEN IF PMG HAD BEEN SETTLED FOR A LOWER AMOUNT(REMEMBER THE CLUB HAD A CHANCE TO CONVERT PART OF THE PMG DEBT INTO SHARES A YEAR OR SO AGO AND FAILED TO TAKE UP THE OPTION).

Ridsdale paid himself excessive salary and bonuses whilst he was here. Remember the £100k stadium completion bonus that no-one else took?

AGREED ABOUT RIDSDALE - HE PAID SOME PERSONAL FRIENDS OF HIS EXCESSIVE SUMS AS WELL BY CREATING JOBS FOR THEM WHICH , IN MY OPINION , DIDN`T EVEN EXIST (E.G. A "GENERAL "STADIUM MANAGER WHO WAS A FORMER FELLOW DIRECTOR OF HIS AT LEEDS WHEN WE ALREADY HAD A STADIUM MANAGER). I REMEBER ASKING SEVERAL QUESTIONS ON MESSAGEBOARDS AND DIRECT TO RIDSDALE IN PERSON AT MEETINGS STATING THAT HE HADN`T QUALIFIED FOR THAT BONUS AS HE TOOK IT BEFORE THE STADIUM WAS COMPLETED.

Ridsdale and Guy were the real crooks over the past 10 years but by clever "brain washing" fooled idiots like you into blaming Sam for everything. Pathetic.

I AM NOT CALLING RIDSDALE A CROOK , BUT HAVE NO HESITATION IN SAYING HE IS NOT FIT TO BE A DIRECTOR OF A COMPANY WITHOUT FEAR OF A CLAIM OF LIBEL ASHE WAS DISQUALIFIED FROM BEING A COMPANY DIRECTOR FOR SUCH UNFITNESS LAST YEAR FOR A 9 YEAR PERIOD.
YOU CALLING PAUL GUY A CROOK IS HOWEVER VERY THIN ICE LEGALLY , PARTICULARLY FOLLOWING CARL`S RECENT DIFFICULTIES RECENTLY FOR THE SAME MISTAKE BASED ON A TOTAL MISUNDERSTANDING OF THE FACTS.

i voted yes. as a cardiff supporter since about 1978. we had our best times under sam. all directors are there to make money, the same will be said about tan in 5 years time, sam was a stepping stone for us? at the end of the day. what are we paying back?