' Bluebirds Unite & CCST hit back after Tan's comments '

There's only one divisive person at CCFC. Tan.

You surprise me Chuckmeister!

I've seen many threads where you've asked people to back up their statements with facts.....but on this ocassion you seem happy to let this Sian woman rant on about percentages with no facts whatsoever.....mmmmm.

Some would say double standards....but we all know what you would say...."it's my opinion and everyone's entitled to one"

Where have I agreed that she is right? Or are you just making a massive assumption? Please find me a quote where I have said that she is correct with her maths?

Although, I'd wager our database isn't that big. I know one person alone that has about 7 different numbers over the years.

I'd use the attendances as a more realistic figure to compare numbers, but that's just my thoughts.

Some right f*cking dickheads posting on here. i suspect you've supported Cardiff City for about oh, three
years?

How f*cking dare you slag off supporters who have supported the Club for decades and are proud of our history
and heritage. To suggest Tan has never heard of the Group is infantile. Why the f**k do you think he brought
the subject up? The CCST has also made a statement today as well.

Tan may or may not ever change his mind but im not apologising to some johnny cum lately wankers for
wanting Tan to show me a bit of respect.

Its fact. If Tan left tomorrow and took all his money, fans like BU would still be fans. We'd start again.
You lot would be back in your Arsenal tops within a week

Well Said

OK Chuckmeister, I've learned through past experiences that you are a slippery fish of the highest order so I'm going to ask you a series of closed questions, which means for your benefit, they require a YES or NO answer.

Do you believe that the 10% figure given by this Sian woman is accurate?

Do you believe that more than 5% of City fans (not just message board posters) want Tan out?

Do you believe that banging on about the colour of shirt and badge will help unite the overall fan base.

Do you beleive that Tan has been beneficial to our club?

YES or NO?

OK Chuckmeister, I've learned through past experiences that you are a slippery fish of the highest order so I'm going to ask you a series of closed questions, which means for your benefit, they require a YES or NO answer.

Do you believe that the 10% figure given by this Sian woman is accurate?

Do you believe that more than 5% of City fans (not just message board posters) want Tan out?

Do you believe that banging on about the colour of shirt and badge will help unite the overall fan base.

Do you beleive that Tan has been beneficial to our club?

YES or NO?

Notice that you failed to acknowledge that you were just assuming & were wrong to
Do so...

Cut the patronising crap too. I've already given you the answer to some of these questions in my original reply to you, the one that totally ignored?

1) I believe it's more that want a peaceful protest for a return to blue.

2) YES

3) I Don't think it helps or hinders. It's already split.

4) yes. Of course. I've said that many times.

The big test will be when we start playing matches. I'm pretty sure there will be a lot more red on view than people here realise.

The big test will be when we start playing matches. I'm pretty sure there will be a lot more red on view than people here realise.

I think it will be more blue than you realise..

There's only one divisive person at CCFC. Tan.

You surprise me Chuckmeister!

I've seen many threads where you've asked people to back up their statements with facts.....but on this ocassion you seem happy to let this Sian woman rant on about percentages with no facts whatsoever.....mmmmm.

Some would say double standards....but we all know what you would say...."it's my opinion and everyone's entitled to one"

Shhhh,he thinks no-one notices.

There's only one divisive person at CCFC. Tan.

You surprise me Chuckmeister!

I've seen many threads where you've asked people to back up their statements with facts.....but on this ocassion you seem happy to let this Sian woman rant on about percentages with no facts whatsoever.....mmmmm.

Some would say double standards....but we all know what you would say...."it's my opinion and everyone's entitled to one"

Shhhh,he thinks no-one notices.

I've noticed that you have done the same. Totally ignored the FACTS that I didn't say I agreed with her, and endorsed his assumptions.

Come on Sneggy Red, you aren't that dull?

Some right f*cking dickheads posting on here. i suspect you've supported Cardiff City for about oh, three
years?

How f*cking dare you slag off supporters who have supported the Club for decades and are proud of our history
and heritage. To suggest Tan has never heard of the Group is infantile. Why the f**k do you think he brought
the subject up? The CCST has also made a statement today as well.

Tan may or may not ever change his mind but im not apologising to some johnny cum lately wankers for
wanting Tan to show me a bit of respect.

Its fact. If Tan left tomorrow and took all his money, fans like BU would still be fans. We'd start again.
You lot would be back in your Arsenal tops within a week

Excellent post mate . The fact that BU and the trust came out with responses speaks volumes .

Perhaps she thinks there are less than 100,000 on the so called database.

Does anybody actually know the actual figure on the database?

I bought my first season ticket about 18 years ago and I'm Fan Number 35,000 something. With our recent success over the last 5 years I suspect the base will be well over 100,000 by now, but I don't claim to know the true figure.

The point is this Sain woman is plucking percentage figures out of thin air, and as usual the lazy welsh media lap it up because it's a devisive story.

Does this help our club......I think not.

The database means nothing, I've got about 5 different numbers over the years with them.

The big test will be when we start playing matches. I'm pretty sure there will be a lot more red on view than people here realise.

I think it's going to go the other way.

Some right f*cking dickheads posting on here. i suspect you've supported Cardiff City for about oh, three
years?

How f*cking dare you slag off supporters who have supported the Club for decades and are proud of our history
and heritage. To suggest Tan has never heard of the Group is infantile. Why the f**k do you think he brought
the subject up? The CCST has also made a statement today as well.

Tan may or may not ever change his mind but im not apologising to some johnny cum lately wankers for
wanting Tan to show me a bit of respect.

Its fact. If Tan left tomorrow and took all his money, fans like BU would still be fans. We'd start again.
You lot would be back in your Arsenal tops within a week

Excellent post mate . The fact that BU and the trust came out with responses speaks volumes .

I think you will find that it was Mediawales who asked for a quote from the Trust and BU rather than either of these organisations feeling the need to issue an "Official" responce.

That's what speaks volumes in ALL of this and goes directly to the negative and devisive culture at Mediawales.

Apparently there are over 100,000 people on the database, if this is true, then I doubt there are 10000 members in BU

Although compromise is key, and returning to blue at home, I think everyone would settle for that.

I signed up to Bluebirds Unite because at the time I thought they were going about things the right way, then I read the "Official Bluebirds Unite" statement on thier facebook page and that changed my opinion in a heartbeat. The statement makes the claim that our club has become "A Genetically Modified Malaysian Team" by the rebrand It also says that the author wants no debate on the issues. How on earth anyone can take that nonsense seriously is beyond me but there you go.

My opinion is the same as yours in that compromise is the key to our club returning to our traditional colours, the colours that the majority of fans "Identify" our team with. This is where the direction of any discussion with VT should go, it's not that we have been robbed of our identity because that hasn't changed as we are still Cardiff City Football Club. By the way the official "Bluebirds Unite" statement says they want to play in the Premier League or any other league as Cardiff City Bluebirds - isn't that a rebrand.

Reading the comments by the lady from Bluebirds Unite and the guy from the Trust it's clear to me that we should be leaving this issue to the Trust, there is far less emotion in what they are saying and, in my opinion, it's far more likely they will win the day.

I am the opposite, at first I wasn't sure if Bluebirds Unite would be another failed attempt, or a well run group going about things the right way. My respect for Sian Branson is increasing more and more and I am fully behind her efforts and ideas. Her latest interview has made her go up in my estimation even further and the fact Bluebirds Unite are getting interviews on radio stations suggests the group is getting noticed by everyone - including Tan. If you haven't listedn tO Sian's recent interview, listen to it and I'm sure it'll change your opinion on Bluebirds Unite https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oqFNxqHHVBE

I alternate between red or blue between one match and the next as is my right. I am just open-minded about the whole thing.

I was looking at last season's highlights DVD and was surprised how much red was on view in the crowd, especially at home (never mind the Brighton game).

For the time being I wish there was some sort of compromise where at least some blue could be incorporated on to the red shirts.

Even on a midweek Wednesday there were quite a few fathers and kids buying red shirts last week.

Mind you, I'm in the minority who would support the team no matter what they are called or what they are wearing, as long as they represent the city of my birth. I've been here since 1967 and i'm not going away now.

Perhaps she thinks there are less than 100,000 on the so called database.

Does anybody actually know the actual figure on the database?

I bought my first season ticket about 18 years ago and I'm Fan Number 35,000 something. With our recent success over the last 5 years I suspect the base will be well over 100,000 by now, but I don't claim to know the true figure.

The point is this Sain woman is plucking percentage figures out of thin air, and as usual the lazy welsh media lap it up because it's a devisive story.

Does this help our club......I think not.

The database means nothing, I've got about 5 different numbers over the years with them.

The data base is fairly accurate only way you have more than one fan number is you didn't tell club you had one when getting tickets? Mine is original have had match tickets and season tickets on different occasions over god knows how long! but always same fan number, so Won't be distorted that much.

Apart from the obvious, the most surreal comment made by Mr Tan is when he brings up the subject of democracy in his defence.

StT.

CCST seem the most respected out of the two, dignified comments, trying to side with Tan unlike BU are acting extremely cocky

CCST seem the most respected out of the two, dignified comments, trying to side with Tan unlike BU are acting extremely cocky

As you'd expect, surely? CCST are a formal organisation afterall.

CCST seem the most respected out of the two, dignified comments, trying to side with Tan unlike BU are acting extremely cocky

As you'd expect, surely? CCST are a formal organisation afterall.

BU could learn something from CCST instead of putting racist fifteen year olds with a violent attitude on their committee

BU could learn something from CCST instead of putting racist fifteen year olds with a violent attitude on their committee

I suggest that you retract that remark, unless you are going to back up your spurious claims with some hard evidence?

BU could learn something from CCST instead of putting racist fifteen year olds with a violent attitude on their committee

I suggest that you retract that remark, unless you are going to back up your spurious claims with some hard evidence?

Steve borley ‏@SteveCMB 5 Jul
@bluebirds_unite are you happy to have a racist sitting on your committee representing your cause
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Siany ‏@BransonSian 7 Jul
@SteveCMB @bluebirds_unite Who are you referring to? Or is this just further Random Slanderous comments on your part ? Very sad
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Steve borley ‏@SteveCMB 7 Jul
@BransonSian I do respect your campaign and your views contrary to perception but the message is being undermined by people with no respect

So you don't have hard evidence then.

So you don't have hard evidence then.

Steve borley ‏@SteveCMB 5 Jul
@CardiffStore @ECumming27 says it all what other agendas do you have
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Cardiff City Store ‏@CardiffStore 5 Jul
@ECumming27 @SteveCMB this racist attitude particularly annoyed us: https://twitter.com/ecumming27/status/3 ... 3891683329 …
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Steve borley ‏@SteveCMB 5 Jul
@CardiffStore @ECumming27 @jonjcandy are you happy to sit on a committee with someone who clearly is a racist

Evidence swiftly deleted, was a few weeks ago but there you go.

PM me the comment? Cheers.

If there has been a racist comment made, that person should not sit on the committee, no.

Id would prefer if cardiff played in blue, but im not going to cry about it, just support the team init

This without a doubt

CCST seem the most respected out of the two, dignified comments, trying to side with Tan unlike BU are acting extremely cocky

Having read both statements I would have to agree.

CCST seem the most respected out of the two, dignified comments, trying to side with Tan unlike BU are acting extremely cocky

Having read both statements I would have to agree.

Very good with words are the Trust but what actions are they taking?

Well done Sian Branson and Bluebirds unite, Tan is out of order and has no respect for our fans

As far as I am concerned I welcome Tans money and what its brought to the club.

BUT

How the hell can anybody make such radical changes to a football club and expect no backlash what did Tan expect I mean common.

If another club did this the result would be the same look at Everton they wanted to make small changes to there badge and people went nuts we changed everything the whole lot is gone.

I will support a return to are traditional blue kit and if possible a return to are badge and one day maybe Tan will wake up and realise what he has done to us is wrong.

At some point I think he will sell up blaming the fans for not embracing his radical plans,he will never change his mind otherwise but for me if it means he goes and we get the true identity back which I have supported for 34 years then so be it.

I am entitled to stand up for the club I have supported for so long and I have had this stance since the day he did it.

Overall I think Tan has treated us to much like a business we are not Asda and he hasnt done the basic homework of understanding anything about football or the fans.

He will not even comprimise what the hell is wrong in haveing the red kit for away games ?

Tan dissrespected me a long time ago and nothing has changed.

:lol: the fact BU think tan even knows they exist is the funniest thing I've heard all day

So who is Tan refering to then Donald Duck and Huey Luey and Duey ? Fair play your comment was the funniest remark

Probably the same people he was referring to before they even existed ie the people shouting in the canton stand at him after we got promoted.

One full pub of people in canton will not make a difference to a billionaire.

An I just want to say before anybody crys I'd rather be blue more then anything.