Give some credit to VT

The words UNGRATEFULL PRICKS come to mind

The words UNGRATEFULL PRICKS come to mind

Of course! How dare fans wish to keep the rightful colours of their club! What pricks!

The words UNGRATEFULL PRICKS come to mind

I wouldn't say that, it's just people forget all the good things being done as it doesn't suit or benefit their own point of view.

Just thought it was time someone spoke up for the apparant 95% majority

When your dealing with sums of money and organisations the size of Cardiff City FC, things dont just happen overnight, but in the sort space of time he has been heavily involved with Cardiff City he has delivered time and time again.

Lets see what he's done (in my view) since he took an active role in running the club.....


Saved us from being wound up and cancelled out the then danger of administration - check
Gave MM a budget to sort out a very small playing squad - check
Personally paid for the special lighting to improve pitch condition (much needed at the time) - check
Got rid of Cardiff Blues - check
Financed a succesful promotion push - check
Supplied a very decent transfer budget for this transfer window - check

and looking to the near future:

Langston debt about to get sorted
New training ground, plans well underway
Hopefully after the Hamamm is sorted the debt to equity swap will go ahead as promised.

Now lets be honest who the f**k has done so much for Cardiff City football club in living memory????

All this guy wants is a little respect from the fans for all he has done, and all he seems to get (on this board at least) is pelters!

UNBERFUCKINGLEAVABLE!

His decision to rebrand the club will never be popular, but the positives far outweigh the negatives

Onwards and upwards!

(No doubt ive got a few things wrong in this post, im not a anarak when it comes to the problems and successes of the club, im just a normal fan, feel free to add more or correct me where im wrong)

Gavin, be careful. You are in danger of making sense in the mad world that sees one single issue override the many good things that Vincent Tan has achieved since his arrival

Seriously, a good post which puts things into a little more perspective

It is a tricky one. VT has definately saved us and I am very grateful for that. Plus for also getting us to the big boy league by giving MM the funds to.

But I think the way he went around the rebrand will always be a bug bear for many fans including myself. I think deep down he regrets the way it happened, but what can he do?

I hate the fact we play in red with a complete MUGS badge, but I get to watch MY team play in the biggest & best league in the world so for that I will always be grateful. He wont be around forever so I hope in the future we can return to blue, or at least to our original badge.

Roll on thr 17th where 3000 of Bluebirds will cheer on OUR team with pride & show them what Cardiff City are all about, not some shameful team in a shit red shirt

Behind you 100% VT has saved this club from going to the wall. Do I want red no I don't. Do I want to watch my beloved club week in week out yes I do.

Lets all calm down and campaign peacefully for a return to blue. With the debt nearing settlement perhaps if as rumours have it Sam will be on the board he may try to get us back to playing in blue?

VT has done more to keep our great club above water more than any other person fact.

Hows about you give them both a lift from heathrow for the 1st home game vs man city this season as none of this would be going on without either of them

Just waiting for a call from the club

When your dealing with sums of money and organisations the size of Cardiff City FC, things dont just happen overnight, but in the sort space of time he has been heavily involved with Cardiff City he has delivered time and time again.

Lets see what he's done (in my view) since he took an active role in running the club.....


Saved us from being wound up and cancelled out the then danger of administration - check
Gave MM a budget to sort out a very small playing squad - check
Personally paid for the special lighting to improve pitch condition (much needed at the time) - check
Got rid of Cardiff Blues - check
Financed a succesful promotion push - check
Supplied a very decent transfer budget for this transfer window - check

and looking to the near future:

Langston debt about to get sorted
New training ground, plans well underway
Hopefully after the Hamamm is sorted the debt to equity swap will go ahead as promised.

Now lets be honest who the f**k has done so much for Cardiff City football club in living memory????

All this guy wants is a little respect from the fans for all he has done, and all he seems to get (on this board at least) is pelters!

UNBERFUCKINGLEAVABLE!

His decision to rebrand the club will never be popular, but the positives far outweigh the negatives

Onwards and upwards!

(No doubt ive got a few things wrong in this post, im not a anarak when it comes to the problems and successes of the club, im just a normal fan, feel free to add more or correct me where im wrong)

I don't care what good Tan does for us for him to say those against his rebrand are disrespectful is nonsense! The only person who's been disrespectful to our football club is Tan for taking our identity! Interesting how Tan says the 15 million spent on players took us up and not this "lucky red" nonsense! He continues to embarrass himself with his pathetic stunts/comments to antagonise/disrespect the fans!

As someone I know recently said "it doesn't matter what we might win under Tan because feeling you belong to your club is worth more than any trophy"!

When im standing amongst 3000 (hopefully) Bluebirds at West Ham on August 17th, I'll feel part of our club mate, each to their own though

Thats the point gav all the ones say its not my club ect ect they will be standing screaming when we beat man u and the swans!
Can't beat a bit of double standards on here!

I choose to go to games, support my team, cheer and celebrate when we score/win, but also wear blue and chant blue army, Bluebirds, we'll always be blue etc. How is that double standards? I hate the rebrand, I hate us playing in red, I hate Vincent Tan for not making our promotion to the Premiership feel as special to me as it should have, but I will keep turning up and keep respectfully protesting to get our identity back as I cannot walk away.

Why can't I walk away? Because I love Cardiff City, my local team. The memories our club has given me are irreplaceable. I now go to games to support our club in spite of Tan, not because of him. I watch us now in the hope that one day, I can watch us at some point in the future in blue again with our proper identity, so I can experience more joy and more elation to give me more memories to treasure and look back on. I was here 20 plus years before Tan came and I will be here 20 plus years after Tan goes. I have supported us through the good and bad times, whatever the level. Right now is a bad time for me. Why? Because I don't really feel part of our club and I will always hate Tan for making me feel this way.

My favourite time supporting our club was the Eddie May era. I was a junior Bluebird, I was even a mascot for one game, and the whole community was united as one chanting Eddie May's barmy army, blue army and Bluebirds! I really felt part of my club then, there was a real passionate emotional connection, everyone was buzzing and the atmosphere was incredible. We were in the lower leagues, but supporting us was something to be proud of. Back then we had our blue, our Bluebird, our identity and the passionate Eddie May getting the fans united behind him. Those days were the best and those days were what I loved about being a City fan, I felt part of my club, my local club that I used to be proud of!

What we are currently going through now, despite Premiership football and possible future glories, will still never compare to how I felt back then! I will always support my club, but I may never feel like I did back then again because of what Tan has done. Tan can give us all the money, facilities and success he wants, but it still won't feel the same to me. The days I had a passionate emotional connection to my club have gone. What Tan has done has really upset me, yet when fans like me pour our emotions out, you have the nerve to say we have double standards for still wanting our team to win?

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Well said "Tonteg Bluebird" - my feelings exactly.

The words UNGRATEFULL PRICKS come to mind

Of course! How dare fans wish to keep the rightful colours of their club! What pricks!

Here here chuckles.

Behind you 100% VT has saved this club from going to the wall. Do I want red no I don't. Do I want to watch my beloved club week in week out yes I do.

Lets all calm down and campaign peacefully for a return to blue. With the debt nearing settlement perhaps if as rumours have it Sam will be on the board he may try to get us back to playing in blue?

VT has done more to keep our great club above water more than any other person fact.

Hows about you give them both a lift from heathrow for the 1st home game vs man city this season as none of this would be going on without either of them

Just waiting for a call from the club

thank you VT for saving our club from potentially extinction
I don't like the decision to turn the home colours to red but in my own view probably not most people I treat the red kit as I would treat the colours we play away, we don't always wear our home colours at home in the past and it didn't stop me supporting the club then and it wont stop me now

the future is bright for our club thanks to tan and his money and of course mr malky MacKay

Well said Gavin,the abuse the man gets is a disgrace,thankfully as usual its the noisy minority who make their views heard and not the majority.

Guessing 'we will always be blue ' will be one of the loudest songs v man city ' and sung by the majority

The words UNGRATEFULL PRICKS come to mind

Of course! How dare fans wish to keep the rightful colours of their club! What pricks!

You really think we would have survived without Tans money?

The words UNGRATEFULL PRICKS come to mind

I wouldn't say that, it's just people forget all the good things being done as it doesn't suit or benefit their own point of view.

Just thought it was time someone spoke up for the apparant 95% majority

Well said

Well said Gavin,the abuse the man gets is a disgrace,thankfully as usual its the noisy minority who make their views heard and not the majority.

Guessing 'we will always be blue ' will be one of the loudest songs v man city ' and sung by the majority

Correct, now the prawn sandwich brigade can't sing "we're top of the league", Im sure we'll be hearing that a lot more at the CCS.

When your dealing with sums of money and organisations the size of Cardiff City FC, things dont just happen overnight, but in the sort space of time he has been heavily involved with Cardiff City he has delivered time and time again.

Lets see what he's done (in my view) since he took an active role in running the club.....


Saved us from being wound up and cancelled out the then danger of administration - check
Gave MM a budget to sort out a very small playing squad - check
Personally paid for the special lighting to improve pitch condition (much needed at the time) - check
Got rid of Cardiff Blues - check
Financed a succesful promotion push - check
Supplied a very decent transfer budget for this transfer window - check

and looking to the near future:


Langston debt about to get sorted
New training ground, plans well underway
Hopefully after the Hamamm is sorted the debt to equity swap will go ahead as promised.

Now lets be honest who the f**k has done so much for Cardiff City football club in living memory????

All this guy wants is a little respect from the fans for all he has done, and all he seems to get (on this board at least) is pelters!

UNBERFUCKINGLEAVABLE!

His decision to rebrand the club will never be popular, but the positives far outweigh the negatives

Onwards and upwards!

(No doubt ive got a few things wrong in this post, im not a anarak when it comes to the problems and successes of the club, im just a normal fan, feel free to add more or correct me where im wrong)

Last edited by Jes on Thu Jul 18, 2013 6:46 pm, edited 1 time in total.

Well said Gavin,the abuse the man gets is a disgrace,thankfully as usual its the noisy minority who make their views heard and not the majority.

Guessing 'we will always be blue ' will be one of the loudest songs v man city ' and sung by the majority

Correct, now the prawn sandwich brigade can't sing "we're top of the league", Im sure we'll be hearing that a lot more at the CCS.

Prawn sandwich brigade

When your dealing with sums of money and organisations the size of Cardiff City FC, things dont just happen overnight, but in the sort space of time he has been heavily involved with Cardiff City he has delivered time and time again.

Lets see what he's done (in my view) since he took an active role in running the club.....


Saved us from being wound up and cancelled out the then danger of administration - check
Gave MM a budget to sort out a very small playing squad - check
Personally paid for the special lighting to improve pitch condition (much needed at the time) - check
Got rid of Cardiff Blues - check
Financed a succesful promotion push - check
Supplied a very decent transfer budget for this transfer window - check

and looking to the near future:

Langston debt about to get sorted
New training ground, plans well underway
Hopefully after the Hamamm is sorted the debt to equity swap will go ahead as promised.

Now lets be honest who the f**k has done so much for Cardiff City football club in living memory????

All this guy wants is a little respect from the fans for all he has done, and all he seems to get (on this board at least) is pelters!

UNBERFUCKINGLEAVABLE!

His decision to rebrand the club will never be popular, but the positives far outweigh the negatives

Onwards and upwards!

(No doubt ive got a few things wrong in this post, im not a anarak when it comes to the problems and successes of the club, im just a normal fan, feel free to add more or correct me where im wrong)

I agree with everything you said there and I would have "Checked" all the things mentioned myself.
However...Every action has an equal but opposite reaction.
Humans are individually different and the reactions differ depending on priories individual to each person.
We can also get caught up in the pack mentality that is inbuilt in each of us.
EG I'm sure every single Bluebird was caught up in the Sam era but now there are no doubt almost as many haters as there were admirers.
A different point of view for some people could very well be:
Waltzed into our club without any affiliation to Cardiff City. Check
Has no care of what the people of this wonderful club think. Check
Stripped our club of an identity without any due consideration to the people of Cardiff City. Check
Swapped the colour of our shirts in the blink of an eye. Check.
Changed our Badge with the blink of another.
Disrespected fans y not trying to communicate with them. Check.
Lied about letting the fans design The club Crest and have a say on a new design. Check
Threatened fans with pulling out of Cardiff City if they don't agree to his terms. Check.
Divided fans oppinion and even caused aggression amongst friends by aggrevating the matter.

As you can see there are pluses on both sides and im certain you could come up with many more reasons for and against.
I'm just saying that The equal but opposite reaction i referred to earlier is different for each of us.

Tan had and still has in my oppinion to be a GOD down here in Cardiff City and it would just take a small step from him....and us to agree a compromise where the majority of fans are agreed.

I'm still preying that VT sends out a message that he is ready to give a little and in return i know he would receive an awful lot.

Thats bollocks.
The man is a nutter and the sooner he fucks off the better.

I dont give a flying f**k for us being in the premier league

Credit Tan, I'd rather give credit to a dog shit on the pavement.

Thats bollocks.
The man is a nutter and the sooner he fucks off the better.

I dont give a flying f**k for us being in the premier league

Funny how all the VT haters shat themselves when they thought he was going before.

Blood on yours hands if he goes and we plummet.

When your dealing with sums of money and organisations the size of Cardiff City FC, things dont just happen overnight, but in the sort space of time he has been heavily involved with Cardiff City he has delivered time and time again.

Lets see what he's done (in my view) since he took an active role in running the club.....


Saved us from being wound up and cancelled out the then danger of administration - check
Gave MM a budget to sort out a very small playing squad - check
Personally paid for the special lighting to improve pitch condition (much needed at the time) - check
Got rid of Cardiff Blues - check
Financed a succesful promotion push - check
Supplied a very decent transfer budget for this transfer window - check

and looking to the near future:

Langston debt about to get sorted
New training ground, plans well underway
Hopefully after the Hamamm is sorted the debt to equity swap will go ahead as promised.

Now lets be honest who the f**k has done so much for Cardiff City football club in living memory????

All this guy wants is a little respect from the fans for all he has done, and all he seems to get (on this board at least) is pelters!

UNBERFUCKINGLEAVABLE!

His decision to rebrand the club will never be popular, but the positives far outweigh the negatives

Onwards and upwards!

(No doubt ive got a few things wrong in this post, im not a anarak when it comes to the problems and successes of the club, im just a normal fan, feel free to add more or correct me where im wrong)

you answered your own statement.......the rebrand will never be popular......end of...

When your dealing with sums of money and organisations the size of Cardiff City FC, things dont just happen overnight, but in the sort space of time he has been heavily involved with Cardiff City he has delivered time and time again.

Lets see what he's done (in my view) since he took an active role in running the club.....


Saved us from being wound up and cancelled out the then danger of administration - check
Gave MM a budget to sort out a very small playing squad - check
Personally paid for the special lighting to improve pitch condition (much needed at the time) - check
Got rid of Cardiff Blues - check
Financed a succesful promotion push - check
Supplied a very decent transfer budget for this transfer window - check

and looking to the near future:

Langston debt about to get sorted
New training ground, plans well underway
Hopefully after the Hamamm is sorted the debt to equity swap will go ahead as promised.

Now lets be honest who the f**k has done so much for Cardiff City football club in living memory????

All this guy wants is a little respect from the fans for all he has done, and all he seems to get (on this board at least) is pelters!

UNBERFUCKINGLEAVABLE!

His decision to rebrand the club will never be popular, but the positives far outweigh the negatives

Onwards and upwards!

(No doubt ive got a few things wrong in this post, im not a anarak when it comes to the problems and successes of the club, im just a normal fan, feel free to add more or correct me where im wrong)

you answered your own statement.......the rebrand will never be popular......end of...

I followed that up with another sentence

When your dealing with sums of money and organisations the size of Cardiff City FC, things dont just happen overnight, but in the sort space of time he has been heavily involved with Cardiff City he has delivered time and time again.

Lets see what he's done (in my view) since he took an active role in running the club.....


Saved us from being wound up and cancelled out the then danger of administration - check
Gave MM a budget to sort out a very small playing squad - check
Personally paid for the special lighting to improve pitch condition (much needed at the time) - check
Got rid of Cardiff Blues - check
Financed a succesful promotion push - check
Supplied a very decent transfer budget for this transfer window - check

and looking to the near future:

Langston debt about to get sorted
New training ground, plans well underway
Hopefully after the Hamamm is sorted the debt to equity swap will go ahead as promised.

Now lets be honest who the f**k has done so much for Cardiff City football club in living memory????

All this guy wants is a little respect from the fans for all he has done, and all he seems to get (on this board at least) is pelters!

UNBERFUCKINGLEAVABLE!

His decision to rebrand the club will never be popular, but the positives far outweigh the negatives

Onwards and upwards!

(No doubt ive got a few things wrong in this post, im not a anarak when it comes to the problems and successes of the club, im just a normal fan, feel free to add more or correct me where im wrong)

you answered your own statement.......the rebrand will never be popular......end of...

I followed that up with another sentence

i wasnt having a pop at you......hence the smiley ...

Ahh sorry mate, im all defensive for some reason

When your dealing with sums of money and organisations the size of Cardiff City FC, things dont just happen overnight, but in the sort space of time he has been heavily involved with Cardiff City he has delivered time and time again.

Lets see what he's done (in my view) since he took an active role in running the club.....


Saved us from being wound up and cancelled out the then danger of administration - check
Gave MM a budget to sort out a very small playing squad - check
Personally paid for the special lighting to improve pitch condition (much needed at the time) - check
Got rid of Cardiff Blues - check
Financed a succesful promotion push - check
Supplied a very decent transfer budget for this transfer window - check

and looking to the near future:

Langston debt about to get sorted
New training ground, plans well underway
Hopefully after the Hamamm is sorted the debt to equity swap will go ahead as promised.

Now lets be honest who the f**k has done so much for Cardiff City football club in living memory????

All this guy wants is a little respect from the fans for all he has done, and all he seems to get (on this board at least) is pelters!

UNBERFUCKINGLEAVABLE!

His decision to rebrand the club will never be popular, but the positives far outweigh the negatives

Onwards and upwards!

(No doubt ive got a few things wrong in this post, im not a anarak when it comes to the problems and successes of the club, im just a normal fan, feel free to add more or correct me where im wrong)

Well said buddy

Our fans have always had short memories.

id rather Tan come when he didnt rather than he never came.

As someone I know recently said "it doesn't matter what we might win under Tan because feeling you belong to your club is worth more than any trophy"!

Not quite how I remember it on that historic night against Charlton Or may the thousands on the pitch really didn't belong to this club.

When your dealing with sums of money and organisations the size of Cardiff City FC, things dont just happen overnight, but in the sort space of time he has been heavily involved with Cardiff City he has delivered time and time again.

Lets see what he's done (in my view) since he took an active role in running the club.....


Saved us from being wound up and cancelled out the then danger of administration - check
Gave MM a budget to sort out a very small playing squad - check
Personally paid for the special lighting to improve pitch condition (much needed at the time) - check
Got rid of Cardiff Blues - check
Financed a succesful promotion push - check
Supplied a very decent transfer budget for this transfer window - check

and looking to the near future:

Langston debt about to get sorted
New training ground, plans well underway
Hopefully after the Hamamm is sorted the debt to equity swap will go ahead as promised.

Now lets be honest who the f**k has done so much for Cardiff City football club in living memory????

All this guy wants is a little respect from the fans for all he has done, and all he seems to get (on this board at least) is pelters!

UNBERFUCKINGLEAVABLE!

His decision to rebrand the club will never be popular, but the positives far outweigh the negatives

Onwards and upwards!

(No doubt ive got a few things wrong in this post, im not a anarak when it comes to the problems and successes of the club, im just a normal fan, feel free to add more or correct me where im wrong)

My first post on this board and got to say, well said Gavin, the vast majority totally agree with you.

Bluebirds Unite page on Facebook is awash tonight with vitriol and threats of violence against Tan. The battle is lost before its started