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Re: ' Cardiff City/Quality Players and The Premier League?

Sat Jul 13, 2013 12:14 pm

Don't care what people think of this comment but Malky takes way too long to sign players, We've only signed 1 player who's virtually unproven. Malky and the recruitment department need to get their act together and start strengthening the team.

Re: ' Cardiff City/Quality Players and The Premier League?

Sat Jul 13, 2013 1:14 pm

Still plenty of time before transfer window shuts. Ideally we'd all love the new faces to have arrived on day one being that we secured promotion back in April!? I liken the situation to the woes of buying or selling a house in "the real world". One mind a bid/sale looks like a done deal and the next a plug is pulled - that's life!
We are a new, first time club in the Premership and that's going to be a hard sell for obvious reasons.

I think Malkys done well signing the Great Dane - that for me was one clear element our squad lacked last season, traditional big lad up front given the favoured 4-5-1 formation we were playing.

I'm not gutted about Wanayama deal falling through. I think he could have been a great potential for us but 2 seasons learning your trade in the cough cough Scottish Premier league is not enough to justify a jump in price from 900k to around 12 million!? Not to mention the add on's and signing on bonuses..... Besides his agent sounded like a right tool!

Missing out on Ince was gutting after the work and the patience our club afforded Ince Jr. But for whatever reasons the lad doesn't want to come to us. That should be the end of the discussion IMO. If apples don't fall far from the tree then maybe that one would have turned into an 8mil rotten one?

I believe Malky has a budget and a strict transfer policy, hope he sticks to his guns, doesn't put up with crap from agents or players. Plenty of talent out there I'd love the club to poach the championship look at jack hunt to provide pace at RB, Bridcuttor will Hughes to bolster midfield (sell the deadwood Malky you know who they are) Mcmanaman, Sam Byrum at the back - these are the realistic targets we should be chasing.

We've got a tough season ahead and it's about getting behind our existing lads, getting behind the management and cutting them some slack (this time last year looked pretty similar if you think back). I really think we can solidify ourselves in the Prem just gotta believe

Sorry for writing my version of War and Peace, I'll shut up now....cheers

Re: ' Cardiff City/Quality Players and The Premier League?

Sat Jul 13, 2013 1:21 pm

Mynachdy_Bluebird wrote:Don't care what people think of this comment but Malky takes way too long to sign players, We've only signed 1 player who's virtually unproven. Malky and the recruitment department need to get their act together and start strengthening the team.

Sorry for Malky trying to use a dossier to sign the right players, he doesn't at all. It's not about buying panic buys. It's the 13th July, we still have quite a bit to buy players. The recruitment staff and Malky don't have their fingers in their arse all day, jesus christ

Re: ' Cardiff City/Quality Players and The Premier League?

Sat Jul 13, 2013 4:09 pm

You should be looking to sign the likes of Adam le Fondre

Re: ' Cardiff City/Quality Players and The Premier League?

Sat Jul 13, 2013 7:06 pm

6 bysedd wrote:You should be looking to sign the likes of Adam le Fondre

Good call. Add Jack Hunt/John Brayford plus Liam bridcutt and our squad would be a lot better

Re: ' Cardiff City/Quality Players and The Premier League?

Sat Jul 13, 2013 7:36 pm

From what I can tell, there isn't much mention of any potential loan deals.

I appreciate that stability is needed with solid, permanent signings, but there is plenty of quality to be found in young players hungry to play regular football (Guidetti, Sterling, Wisdom, etc).

:ayatollah: :ayatollah: :ayatollah: :ayatollah:

Re: ' Cardiff City/Quality Players and The Premier League?

Sat Jul 13, 2013 7:40 pm

There are players out there who are good Premiership or potential Premiership players that won't cost an arm and a leg. Look at Sunderland who are apparently paying £5m for Huddlestone with wages of £35k per week, at least that is what they are supposed to have offered him. We can afford players like that....it's just getting them to come here.

I think once we make one signing from a Premiership team then maybe others will follow suit. MIx in a few young keen quality signings from the Championship and things will look a lot better.

Maybe a few loan players will come in August when teams like Man City & Liverpool have made a few more signings and will need to offload players. Way too early for loan players right now.

Re: ' Cardiff City/Quality Players and The Premier League?

Sat Jul 13, 2013 8:07 pm

Are you lot real ??? After 48 years in the doldrums Malky has got us there in 2 - In Malky we trust :ayatollah: :malky: :ayatollah: :malky: :old: :ayatollah: :malky: :ayatollah: :malky:

Re: ' Cardiff City/Quality Players and The Premier League?

Sat Jul 13, 2013 8:59 pm

I'm not concerned yet, still a lot of business to be done in the Prem.

I think Polo might be right in that MM is looking a little to high but for now thats not a bad thing as long as he is ready with his other targets as soon his primary targets are missed.

I do feel we may be missing a trick on Wanyama but if MM thinks he can get better value than money so be it. Judge the squad once the transfer window closes.

Re: ' Cardiff City/Quality Players and The Premier League?

Sat Jul 13, 2013 9:56 pm

6 bysedd wrote:You should be looking to sign the likes of Adam le Fondre


Poor player.

Only got goals from the bench in matches that were already lost.

Re: ' Cardiff City/Quality Players and The Premier League?

Sat Jul 13, 2013 10:19 pm

He certainly isn't a poor player.12 goals coming off the bench in a poor side at this level doesn't equate to a poor player.He's also scored wherever he's been and was Reading's best player against us and caused us a fair few problems when he came on.

He scored the same amount of goals as Wayne Rooney and Sergio Aguero last season and more than Tevez,Defoe and Kone.

Poor player :?

Re: ' Cardiff City/Quality Players and The Premier League?

Sun Jul 14, 2013 1:07 am

6 bysedd wrote:He certainly isn't a poor player.12 goals coming off the bench in a poor side at this level doesn't equate to a poor player.He's also scored wherever he's been and was Reading's best player against us and caused us a fair few problems when he came on.

He scored the same amount of goals as Wayne Rooney and Sergio Aguero last season and more than Tevez,Defoe and Kone.

Poor player :?


We don't want a player who comes off the bench and make a impact, we want a player who can be better than what we already have.

For god sake, he didn't even start a game that many anyway, speaks volumes.

Re: ' Cardiff City/Quality Players and The Premier League?

Sun Jul 14, 2013 6:51 am

DandoCCFC wrote:
6 bysedd wrote:He certainly isn't a poor player.12 goals coming off the bench in a poor side at this level doesn't equate to a poor player.He's also scored wherever he's been and was Reading's best player against us and caused us a fair few problems when he came on.

He scored the same amount of goals as Wayne Rooney and Sergio Aguero last season and more than Tevez,Defoe and Kone.

Poor player :?


We don't want a player who comes off the bench and make a impact, we want a player who can be better than what we already have.

For god sake, he didn't even start a game that many anyway, speaks volumes.

You incredible feckin dunce you.I give up.thick to the core.

Re: ' Cardiff City/Quality Players and The Premier League?

Sun Jul 14, 2013 7:30 am

6 bysedd wrote:He certainly isn't a poor player.12 goals coming off the bench in a poor side at this level doesn't equate to a poor player.He's also scored wherever he's been and was Reading's best player against us and caused us a fair few problems when he came on.

He scored the same amount of goals as Wayne Rooney and Sergio Aguero last season and more than Tevez,Defoe and Kone.

Poor player :?

Reading only 250k for him and at Rochdale, Stockport and Rotherham he scored for fun. To get 12 in a crap team like Reading speaks volumes. He would add to our squad and if Malky signed him I'd be happy.

Re: ' Cardiff City/Quality Players and The Premier League?

Sun Jul 14, 2013 8:03 am

Gareth (Wilts) wrote:
6 bysedd wrote:He certainly isn't a poor player.12 goals coming off the bench in a poor side at this level doesn't equate to a poor player.He's also scored wherever he's been and was Reading's best player against us and caused us a fair few problems when he came on.

He scored the same amount of goals as Wayne Rooney and Sergio Aguero last season and more than Tevez,Defoe and Kone.

Poor player :?

Reading only 250k for him and at Rochdale, Stockport and Rotherham he scored for fun. To get 12 in a crap team like Reading speaks volumes. He would add to our squad and if Malky signed him I'd be happy.

:thumbright:

You lads know your club better than me but to dismiss le fondre as poor and not good enough is ludicrous.

Re: ' Cardiff City/Quality Players and The Premier League?

Sun Jul 14, 2013 8:14 am

6 bysedd wrote:
Gareth (Wilts) wrote:
6 bysedd wrote:He certainly isn't a poor player.12 goals coming off the bench in a poor side at this level doesn't equate to a poor player.He's also scored wherever he's been and was Reading's best player against us and caused us a fair few problems when he came on.

He scored the same amount of goals as Wayne Rooney and Sergio Aguero last season and more than Tevez,Defoe and Kone.

Poor player :?

Reading only 250k for him and at Rochdale, Stockport and Rotherham he scored for fun. To get 12 in a crap team like Reading speaks volumes. He would add to our squad and if Malky signed him I'd be happy.

:thumbright:

You lads know your club better than me but to dismiss le fondre as poor and not good enough is ludicrous.

100% agree (I don't often agree with the JBs on here ;-) )

I want Malky to bring in 2 defenders as full backs are where we will struggle next season. Hudson will be fine but I'm not 100% certain that Taylor can cut it in premier lge even though he was most improved player last season

Re: ' Cardiff City/Quality Players and The Premier League?

Sun Jul 14, 2013 8:41 am

Stop worrying, I would much rather Malky takes his time to get the right players in than rush and get a few bad apples. He has plenty of irons in the fire I'm sure. I for one trust Malkys judgement he hasn't done too bad for us so far has he? Be patient and keep the faith lads :ayatollah:

Re: ' Cardiff City/Quality Players and The Premier League?

Sun Jul 14, 2013 9:29 am

6 bysedd wrote:He certainly isn't a poor player.12 goals coming off the bench in a poor side at this level doesn't equate to a poor player.He's also scored wherever he's been and was Reading's best player against us and caused us a fair few problems when he came on.

He scored the same amount of goals as Wayne Rooney and Sergio Aguero last season and more than Tevez,Defoe and Kone.

Poor player :?


You have to look at the teams he scored against and the impact each of those goals made.

In terms of points won for Reading his goals meant very very little.

It's easy to come off the bench against tired legs when your teams a couple of goals down and get one back. We need players who can prevent us from being in that position in the first place.

I'm sure if we used Campbell as a super sub he would get a similar goal haul but it wouldn't win us any points.

Re: ' Cardiff City/Quality Players and The Premier League?

Sun Jul 14, 2013 9:46 am

castleblue wrote:I'm not really sure what you are expecting Annis when you say "Quality Players" unless of course you are talking about Van Persie, Suarez, Kompany etc who are so far out of our league it's not worth even talking about them. Also I will never dismiss our existing squad as certain relegation fodder.

MM has promised to get us to a position where we will be competitive and I'm sure he will do that, but to survive we need to be competitive with the likes of Hull, Palace, Stoke, Sunderland, Villa, Fulham, Norwich, Southampton and our cousins out west.

What we need amongst our squad is evolution and not revolution and rather than try to buy an almost complete new squad, like Hull, we need to add depth to our existing squad. We are already on the way to doing that with Cornelius who looks the type of player we were crying out for last season and of course we have a fit Maynard.

I'm with MM and our players every inch of the way next season, we know they will never give up in any game, and I honestly believe we will surprise a few people next season.


:ayatollah: :ayatollah: :ayatollah: :ayatollah:


I was concerned with comment about our current squad. Admittedly it would be a struggle but when you consider we have filled the one gapping hole we had which was up front (Cornelius) and we have both Frazier and Maynard back I think our current squad would keep us up next season.

Re: ' Cardiff City/Quality Players and The Premier League?

Sun Jul 14, 2013 9:48 am

ihatealiens wrote:Stop worrying, I would much rather Malky takes his time to get the right players in than rush and get a few bad apples. He has plenty of irons in the fire I'm sure. I for one trust Malkys judgement he hasn't done too bad for us so far has he? Be patient and keep the faith lads :ayatollah:


I agree totally. It is reported MM had 10 plates spinning but has dropped only 2 meaning their are another potential 8 (EIGHT) available. :ayatollah: :ayatollah:

Re: ' Cardiff City/Quality Players and The Premier League?

Sun Jul 14, 2013 3:46 pm

6 bysedd wrote:
DandoCCFC wrote:
6 bysedd wrote:He certainly isn't a poor player.12 goals coming off the bench in a poor side at this level doesn't equate to a poor player.He's also scored wherever he's been and was Reading's best player against us and caused us a fair few problems when he came on.

He scored the same amount of goals as Wayne Rooney and Sergio Aguero last season and more than Tevez,Defoe and Kone.

Poor player :?


We don't want a player who comes off the bench and make a impact, we want a player who can be better than what we already have.

For god sake, he didn't even start a game that many anyway, speaks volumes.

You incredible feckin dunce you.I give up.thick to the core.


Thick, rating a player who does well off the bench yet never contributes when he makes a start.

Re: ' Cardiff City/Quality Players and The Premier League?

Sun Jul 14, 2013 4:14 pm

Forever Blue wrote:I can see fans are now getting worried/annoyed/frustrated that we are not signing many quality players.
Malky and even the club it's self have admitted going after players and it's not been happening for us.
In my opinion this existing squad without a doubt would go straight back down.
There does seem to be a problem attracting players, Malky for weeks has been going after players.
I honestly feel for Malky right now and wonder how he really feels right now.
I personally thought Malky would have had 3 signings this week and many people who work at our club incl Malky thought we would have 2-3 new players.




Will Tan start thinking its Malky that can't attract them ?
That Cardiff City are not attractive enough for quality players to come here?
The quality players in the Premier League are thinking Cardiff City are one season wonders and not an established Premier League Club?

Malky might panick buy?
Tan might give Malky more money to attract players?

What ever happens this season, myself personally will be fully supportive of Malky. :ayatollah:

Your thoughts/comments/opinions?

What cardiff need to remember is that they are a small fish in a big pond now, quality players will not see going to cardiff as something special, if you stay up this season you'll be able to attract better quality, as it stands cardiff are one of the favourites to go down and a lot of good players dont want to be involved with that, the first season is the hardest for attracting top players. :thumbright: