Simon Lim: History is great, but stop harping on!

Still, I'm pretty sure you were against being lied to. A decision made by the club. I'm sure there are other times where you have disagreed with the club on an issue.

I don't believe that there was ever the intention to buy all these players, but that's my hunch.

So we are told by people that we should stop going because we disagree with the club on an issue... Even though when they disagreed with the club on an issue, they still went themselves.

Hypocrisy at its finest

Fair enough. I don't agree with that, as I feel that there will be more people this year who will be disgruntled about the colour. There will also be organised "celebrations" of blue.

It may be strongly worded, but there are several Tan apologists on this thread. It's a shame as up until the rebrand & since the rebrand - he has proved as a very successful owner of this club (so far..) yet, since his ghastly rebrand, I cannot respect the man.

Accept that

Against Red, Against Tan, Against Modern Football.

1st in the queue for Season Tickets.

Against Red, Against Tan, Against Modern Football.

1st in the queue for Season Tickets.

There's a lot of assumptions in that short post. Congratulations.

Against Red, Against Tan, Against Modern Football.

1st in the queue for Season Tickets.

There's a lot of assumptions in that short post. Congratulations.

yeah, for starters he booked his season ticket online!

STOP GOING ON ABOUT THE TRADITIONS OF CARDIFF CITY, WE ARE TRYING TO MAKE MONEY HERE!!!

Forget your culture and identity lickle welshmen we're moving football on

The more they talk the worse it looks for them and the Malaysian apologists on here

What part of our 'culture' has been changed? We're still called Cardiff City and the Bluebirds so out identity remains in tact. The thing that has changed is our wrapping (shirt colour). The badge has been changed a few times over the years. Does it really bother people so much that we play in a different colour shirt? The way it was done was underhand, but now it has been done surely its time to get behind Cardiff City. Regarding re-brands etc, ces't la vie.

I have to say I have met Simon Lim and found him a very easy going and likeable person, but he said he is still learning regarding football and before being appointed at Cardiff a year ago he never knew anything about City or even football in general. Saying what he has said in the above shows total inexperience and in my opinion a lack of respect for our club.
Yes he is allowed his opinion, but a man in his position and also no experience Hmm not good on our clubs part in my opinion.
Why say it ?

I have to say I have met Simon Lim and found him a very easy going and likeable person, but he said he is still learning regarding football and before being appointed at Cardiff a year ago he never knew anything about City or even football in general. Saying what he has said in the above shows total inexperience and in my opinion a lack of respect for our club.
Yes he is allowed his opinion, but a man in his position and also no experience Hmm not good on our clubs part in my opinion.
Why say it ?

He could just be saying it how it is/was. Honesty. Who would have thought that, coming from a football chairman.

I found it rather ironic he made these comments to media Wales and in the same interview he mentions that quotes from VT had been blown out of proportion previously by Media Wales, talk about shooting yourself in the foot

What part of our 'culture' has been changed? We're still called Cardiff City and the Bluebirds so out identity remains in tact. The thing that has changed is our wrapping (shirt colour). The badge has been changed a few times over the years. Does it really bother people so much that we play in a different colour shirt? The way it was done was underhand, but now it has been done surely its time to get behind Cardiff City. Regarding re-brands etc, ces't la vie.

Spot on.

Our identity remains intact?! Okay then.

Our identity remains intact?! Okay then.

Yes it does. Identified by our name remaining the same, our nickname ditto. How do you identify yourself? By your name or nickname or by the colour of your shirt that particular day??

I don't think it does remain intact.

A lot of people identify Cardiff City as a club who wear blue shirts, with that being wiped by the Dictator, that is PART of our identity gone.

The fact is, that it does, it just feels as if it doesn't. Its written in big neon letters on the side of the stadium. With this name also giving a clue to the identity of its owners.

The fact is, that it does, it just feels as if it doesn't. Its written in big neon letters on the side of the stadium. With this name also giving a clue to the identity of its owners.

God you're easily pleased, so If someone steals the leather interior of your car, as long as they write in big letters on the bonnet ' I'm not stealing your car's leather, everything is ok?

CARDIFF CITY fans have been warned not to expect Malaysian backer Vincent Tan to become the Bluebirds’ Roman Abramovich.

Owner Tan has already handed manager Malky Mackay funds to boost his forward line for the club’s historic first season in the Premier League, giving the green light to a record £8.5m deal for Danish striker Andreas Cornelius.

And a second big-money move is on the cards if Mackay can agree personal terms with England Under-21 winger Tom Ince after Blackpool accepted an £8m bid.

There has also been offers lodged for Victor Wanyama and Benjamin Mendy, although the latter, a France Under-19 full-back, is said to be close to a move to Marseille.

But, in a revealing interview given in Malaysia, Cardiff acting chief executive and chairman Simon Lim has insisted Tan will not bust the £25m transfer budget he set in the immediate aftermath of promotion in April.

And, citing the example of Stamford Bridge supremo Roman Abramovich, who has spent £713m in 10 years, Lim insisted that Cardiff are not about to follow suit.



“We are not going to spend silly money,” Lim said.

“He (Tan) mentioned £25m; we may spend £25m, but we’re not going to spend £25m for the sake of it.

“If we can spend £10m we will make do with £10m.

“We’re not going to break the bank – we are not Chelsea.”



Lim moved into the role of acting chairman in February following the sudden departure of Dato Chan Thien Gee – the man who had first forged Malaysian links to Cardiff and brought Tan to the table.

He formed part of a three-way decision-making team at the very top of the club alongside Tan and Mackay.

And although Lim admits the details and responsibilities at a football club so integral to its community is unlike any other venture, Tan’s key is to keep treating it like business.

“In terms of culture, I am very used to working with British people and in Malaysia I worked with multi-nationals,” Lim said.

“But football is another culture – totally different to everything else I’ve ever done.

“Tan Sri told me to treat it as any other business – you still have overheads, revenues etc.

“But the difference is we’re in the spotlight. That’s what makes it very different.

“Everything we do is under the microscope. And also the fans – in most businesses you have a few hundred customers; here we have 22,000 customers and 80,000 on our database.

“Fans feel it’s their club and that it’s a community. It’s very hard for them to detach themselves. Clubs used to be run like communities.

“Only since Sky came in has it become different. But fans should be able to separate the two. But it’s up to us to decide what’s best for the club moving forward. History is great but you can’t harp on it too long.”

But, despite the Premier League opportunities around the corner, talk of history does remind Lim of the divisive decision to rebrand under Tan that came back into focus earlier this year following suggestions he would be ready to change the club’s proud name.

“It was an interview Tan Sri did with the BBC and all hell broke loose,” Lim said after Tan first sparked the angry worry with his comments right at the peak of the side’s promotion charge. It was supposed to be aired in the evening and they gave it a write-up on the website and chose to highlight a very controversial issue – changing the name.

“All Tan Sri had said was that you never say never. And they ran that we were thinking of changing the name!

“We reckon they wanted to boost their ratings. Cyberspace was going crazy and we had to nip it in the bud, so we issued a statement to say we wouldn’t change the name – or the badge. It calmed down.”

Lim trying to blame premiereship football for the rebrand. Have i got that right? Lim is saying the rebrand isa part of premiere league football? Or is he trying normalise a wholey extreme act byassciating it with normality IE the premiere league. I'd liketo here what the premiere leaguethinkof his comments.

After reading Lim's disrespectful comments, i'm wondering how much longer it will take for grown men to say "you know
what, success is nice but my culture and pride take precedence and i won't betreated likea shopper at tesco. bye byeTan, Lim parasites et al.

The fact is, that it does, it just feels as if it doesn't. Its written in big neon letters on the side of the stadium. With this name also giving a clue to the identity of its owners.

God you're easily pleased, so If someone steals the leather interior of your car, as long as they write in big letters on the bonnet ' I'm not stealing your car's leather, everything is ok?

Its still my car, albeit with uncomfortable ride from now on.

The fact is, that it does, it just feels as if it doesn't. Its written in big neon letters on the side of the stadium. With this name also giving a clue to the identity of its owners.

God you're easily pleased, so If someone steals the leather interior of your car, as long as they write in big letters on the bonnet ' I'm not stealing your car's leather, everything is ok?

Its still my car, albeit with uncomfortable ride from now on.

The fact is, that it does, it just feels as if it doesn't. Its written in big neon letters on the side of the stadium. With this name also giving a clue to the identity of its owners.

God you're easily pleased, so If someone steals the leather interior of your car, as long as they write in big letters on the bonnet ' I'm not stealing your car's leather, everything is ok?

But that would be his car though the club belongs to tan not us so theres a diffrence, hence why we are just customers now

Right - Tan has us by the short and curlies - I personally am wary about his intentions. I hope it's not a classic case of pump and dump.

Right - Tan has us by the short and curlies - I personally am wary about his intentions. I hope it's not a classic case of pump and dump.

Does Tan look like caring lover to you? We'lllucky if he leaves a fiver on the pillow

Right - Tan has us by the short and curlies - I personally am wary about his intentions. I hope it's not a classic case of pump and dump.

Does Tan look like caring lover to you? We'lllucky if he leaves a fiver on the pillow

Five pounds I charge ten. I wondered where all my regulars were going.

Still, I'm pretty sure you were against being lied to. A decision made by the club. I'm sure there are other times where you have disagreed with the club on an issue.

I don't believe that there was ever the intention to buy all these players, but that's my hunch.

So we are told by people that we should stop going because we disagree with the club on an issue... Even though when they disagreed with the club on an issue, they still went themselves.

Hypocrisy at its finest

Difference is Chuckles is that Tan won't go back to blue unless the fans pull out financially. By renewing our STs in his eyes we have backed him and the red vision. Tough to take but I accepted that fact a while ago. Your just the same as all the other fans that have renewed, Tan apologist or not.

Still, I'm pretty sure you were against being lied to. A decision made by the club. I'm sure there are other times where you have disagreed with the club on an issue.

I don't believe that there was ever the intention to buy all these players, but that's my hunch.

So we are told by people that we should stop going because we disagree with the club on an issue... Even though when they disagreed with the club on an issue, they still went themselves.

Hypocrisy at its finest

Difference is Chuckles is that Tan won't go back to blue unless the fans pull out financially. By renewing our STs in his eyes we have backed him and the red vision. Tough to take but I accepted that fact a while ago. Your just the same as all the other fans that have renewed, Tan apologist or not.

Nobody knows what Tan will do or how things will change with visible protest over time. People who've never met Tan refer to Tan like some sort of inert unrelenting machine. I believe views can change in all human beings under gentle persuasive pressure, both emotional and pragmatic. That includes VT, atleast BU have got Peter Lim discuissing the issue, god on Sian Branson Et Al i say.

Still, I'm pretty sure you were against being lied to. A decision made by the club. I'm sure there are other times where you have disagreed with the club on an issue.

I don't believe that there was ever the intention to buy all these players, but that's my hunch.

So we are told by people that we should stop going because we disagree with the club on an issue... Even though when they disagreed with the club on an issue, they still went themselves.

Hypocrisy at its finest

Difference is Chuckles is that Tan won't go back to blue unless the fans pull out financially. By renewing our STs in his eyes we have backed him and the red vision. Tough to take but I accepted that fact a while ago. Your just the same as all the other fans that have renewed, Tan apologist or not.

The problem is if fans like myself and chuckles stop going, we will just be replaced by another glory hunting red plastic and it will make no difference. The only way we can make a difference is by turning up in blue and continuing to peacefully protest, but at the same time be heard and get the world talking about our desire to respectfully get our identity back. If we throw in the towel and stop going, it won't achieve anything.

STOP GOING ON ABOUT THE TRADITIONS OF CARDIFF CITY, WE ARE TRYING TO MAKE MONEY HERE!!!

Forget your culture and identity lickle welshmen we're moving football on

The more they talk the worse it looks for them and the Malaysian apologists on here

What part of our 'culture' has been changed? We're still called Cardiff City and the Bluebirds so out identity remains in tact. The thing that has changed is our wrapping (shirt colour). The badge has been changed a few times over the years. Does it really bother people so much that we play in a different colour shirt? The way it was done was underhand, but now it has been done surely its time to get behind Cardiff City. Regarding re-brands etc, ces't la vie.

What part of our 'culture' has been changed? Read what Peter Lim has said, He seems to know more about what has changed than you.

Does it really bother people so much that we play in a different colour shirt? football culture and identity are wrapped up in colours it's tribal and property of 'ours' It is NOT anyone elses, so ofcoarse people are bothered by a change from outside bodies, are you new to football or something?

So many martyrs but none prepared to make the sacrifice of giving up watching city!

There are plenty that have sacrificed their support. They have then been called "fair weather fans" etc.

For me, why should I give up my support of the club I follow because I disagree with the choices made at the club?

Allan. Were you against the Ridsdale ticket scam? If so, why didn't you stop supporting? Going by your theory, you should have stopped if you were against it.

Alex, the Ridsdale ticket thing wasn't a 'scam' and those close to the club will tell you that. Things changed very quickly in a very short period over that summer and the club had a simple choice; use the money to pay off a single pressing debt or go into Administration. It really was 'life or death' of the club and is what amazes me most about the people who were around at the time forgetting (or conveniently ignoring) the realities of where we were at that point

Yet people marched against Ridsdale, demanded he was sacked but carried on supporting the team with him still in place. The same people telling the likes of Alex that they should not support the club. Only one word for that type and that is hypocrits.

Stop harping on. This b*stard probably never supported a football club if this is his views

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So many martyrs but none prepared to make the sacrifice of giving up watching city!

There are plenty that have sacrificed their support. They have then been called "fair weather fans" etc.

For me, why should I give up my support of the club I follow because I disagree with the choices made at the club?

Allan. Were you against the Ridsdale ticket scam? If so, why didn't you stop supporting? Going by your theory, you should have stopped if you were against it.

Alex, the Ridsdale ticket thing wasn't a 'scam' and those close to the club will tell you that. Things changed very quickly in a very short period over that summer and the club had a simple choice; use the money to pay off a single pressing debt or go into Administration. It really was 'life or death' of the club and is what amazes me most about the people who were around at the time forgetting (or conveniently ignoring) the realities of where we were at that point

Yet people marched against Ridsdale, demanded he was sacked but carried on supporting the team with him still in place. The same people telling the likes of Alex that they should not support the club. Only one word for that type and that is hypocrits.

Me I just support team full stop! Never get into rights and wrongs running club! More in my life to worry about than who does what to the club? Its still here isnt it? And just to clarify I have given up my season ticket because of things that have nothing to do with way club is run! To be honest I don't care about tan or kcb, but Barry you already know this from my previous posts on re brand. People should get a life its a football club not family!

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So many martyrs but none prepared to make the sacrifice of giving up watching city!

There are plenty that have sacrificed their support. They have then been called "fair weather fans" etc.

For me, why should I give up my support of the club I follow because I disagree with the choices made at the club?

Allan. Were you against the Ridsdale ticket scam? If so, why didn't you stop supporting? Going by your theory, you should have stopped if you were against it.

Alex, the Ridsdale ticket thing wasn't a 'scam' and those close to the club will tell you that. Things changed very quickly in a very short period over that summer and the club had a simple choice; use the money to pay off a single pressing debt or go into Administration. It really was 'life or death' of the club and is what amazes me most about the people who were around at the time forgetting (or conveniently ignoring) the realities of where we were at that point

Yet people marched against Ridsdale, demanded he was sacked but carried on supporting the team with him still in place. The same people telling the likes of Alex that they should not support the club. Only one word for that type and that is hypocrits.

Me I just support team full stop! Never get into rights and wrongs running club! More in my life to worry about than who does what to the club? Its still here isnt it? And just to clarify I have given up my season ticket because of things that have nothing to do with way club is run! To be honest I don't care about tan or kcb, but Barry you already know this from my previous posts on re brand. People should get a life its a football club not family!