Dear Jack bastards...

you can be as big as you want (barcelona maybe ). nobody cares , the fact is in footballing terms on and off the pitch at the moment we are better than you, i'm not saying you wont catch up ,your the new boys in the division so dont get ahead of yourselves.

Check the league table feller.

Right now we are LEVEL on the pitch. Neither of us know how this season is going to pan out. We had an amazing season
last term, but are new to the Premiership. You had a pretty worrying second half to last season, but would hope that the
nucleus of last seasons team will be good enough with a few tweaks. You have an advantage, thats all

Forget ''Barcelona'' and that prick Hammam, or do you want me to bring up Tony Petty
and administration?

NOW... given all the criteria above re: size of crowds, size of ground, catchment area, populations of both
Cities. FUTURE plans re development. History's (in terms of honours). European experience.

Whos the biggest Club?

i don't think that we are a bigger club than you , just that we are in a better postion, you say we had a worrying second half , we won a trophy and we were virtually safe by mid march , the players dropped there performance by 10% and what ive learned in our two years in this league is you will get punished, bring up petty if you want the blokes a knob , yes mistakes were made but since then our club has been run to the highest order.

You brought up ''bigger than Barcelona" - that wasnt Cardiff City, that was the bullshitter and con man. Thats why I
mentioned Petty

I'd agree you are in a better position than us. You DID struggle second half of the season but have got the whole of the
summer to rectify things. Its all new to us. But I think if Malky gets the right players in we'll finish above you though.

2012-2013 Avg. Attendence; Cardiff = 22,998, Swansea = 20,370
2010-2011 Avg. Attendance (last time at same level) Cardiff = 22,091, Swansea 15,507
Total seasons in top-flight; Cardiff = 15, Swansea = 4
Highest ever league finish; Cardiff = 2nd, Swansea = 6th
Current League position; Swansea = 9th, Cardiff = 21st
FA Cups; Cardiff = 1, Swansea = 0
League Cups; Cardiff = 0, Swansea = 1
Welsh Cups; Cardiff = 22, Swansea = 10
Head-to-Head wins; Cardiff = 43, Swansea = 35

Looks like we take 7 of 9.

Current number 1 club in Wales? No.
Wales' all-time most successful club? Yes.
Biggest club in Wales (past and present)? Yes.

2012-2013 Avg. Attendence; Cardiff = 22,998, Swansea = 20,370
2010-2011 Avg. Attendance (last time at same level) Cardiff = 22,091, Swansea 15,507
Total seasons in top-flight; Cardiff = 15, Swansea = 4
Highest ever league finish; Cardiff = 2nd, Swansea = 6th
Current League position; Swansea = 9th, Cardiff = 21st
FA Cups; Cardiff = 1, Swansea = 0
League Cups; Cardiff = 0, Swansea = 1
Welsh Cups; Cardiff = 22, Swansea = 10
Head-to-Head wins; Cardiff = 43, Swansea = 35

Looks like we take 7 of 9.

Current number 1 club in Wales? No.
Wales' all-time most successful club? Yes.
Biggest club in Wales (past and present)? Yes.

7 out of 8 - Current league position is meaningless

2012-2013 Avg. Attendence; Cardiff = 22,998, Swansea = 20,370
2010-2011 Avg. Attendance (last time at same level) Cardiff = 22,091, Swansea 15,507
Total seasons in top-flight; Cardiff = 15, Swansea = 4
Highest ever league finish; Cardiff = 2nd, Swansea = 6th
Current League position; Swansea = 9th, Cardiff = 21st
FA Cups; Cardiff = 1, Swansea = 0
League Cups; Cardiff = 0, Swansea = 1
Welsh Cups; Cardiff = 22, Swansea = 10
Head-to-Head wins; Cardiff = 43, Swansea = 35

Looks like we take 7 of 9.

Current number 1 club in Wales? No.
Wales' all-time most successful club? Yes.
Biggest club in Wales (past and present)? Yes.

You know when someone is desperate when they have to drag up ground attendances and welsh cup wins

you can be as big as you want (barcelona maybe ). nobody cares , the fact is in footballing terms on and off the pitch at the moment we are better than you, i'm not saying you wont catch up ,your the new boys in the division so dont get ahead of yourselves.

Check the league table feller.

Right now we are LEVEL on the pitch. Neither of us know how this season is going to pan out. We had an amazing season
last term, but are new to the Premiership. You had a pretty worrying second half to last season, but would hope that the
nucleus of last seasons team will be good enough with a few tweaks. You have an advantage, thats all

Forget ''Barcelona'' and that prick Hammam, or do you want me to bring up Tony Petty
and administration?

NOW... given all the criteria above re: size of crowds, size of ground, catchment area, populations of both
Cities. FUTURE plans re development. History's (in terms of honours). European experience.

Whos the biggest Club?

i don't think that we are a bigger club than you , just that we are in a better postion, you say we had a worrying second half , we won a trophy and we were virtually safe by mid march , the players dropped there performance by 10% and what ive learned in our two years in this league is you will get punished, bring up petty if you want the blokes a knob , yes mistakes were made but since then our club has been run to the highest order.

You brought up ''bigger than Barcelona" - that wasnt Cardiff City, that was the bullshitter and con man. Thats why I
mentioned Petty

I'd agree you are in a better position than us. You DID struggle second half of the season but have got the whole of the
summer to rectify things. Its all new to us. But I think if Malky gets the right players in we'll finish above you though.

i think you might seriously under estimate how tough this league is , i dont think you will finish above us , depends how we deal with europe, you might have a team full workers that will non stop run for 90 mins but in my opinion you also need quality. do you think you have the quality there at the moment,

Not at all. You asked for evidence on how we are a bigger club & I've provided that. I feel attendances are a part of what makes someone a bigger club.

Laugh all you like. That stats are there.

Not at all. You asked for evidence on how we are a bigger club & I've provided that. I feel attendances are a part of what makes someone a bigger club.

Laugh all you like. That stats are there.

To be perfectly honest I dont give a toss if you are bigger than us or not, I just enjoy watching you all squirming around desperately trying to prove that you are..

its comedy gold

You do give a toss, or you wouldn't have asked. Now you've been proved wrong, you're desperately trying to give the image that you don't care.

You've already admitted to me that you're "really stupid" once. Stop before you have to do so again.

you can be as big as you want (barcelona maybe ). nobody cares , the fact is in footballing terms on and off the pitch at the moment we are better than you, i'm not saying you wont catch up ,your the new boys in the division so dont get ahead of yourselves.

Check the league table feller.

Right now we are LEVEL on the pitch. Neither of us know how this season is going to pan out. We had an amazing season
last term, but are new to the Premiership. You had a pretty worrying second half to last season, but would hope that the
nucleus of last seasons team will be good enough with a few tweaks. You have an advantage, thats all

Forget ''Barcelona'' and that prick Hammam, or do you want me to bring up Tony Petty
and administration?

NOW... given all the criteria above re: size of crowds, size of ground, catchment area, populations of both
Cities. FUTURE plans re development. History's (in terms of honours). European experience.

Whos the biggest Club?

i don't think that we are a bigger club than you , just that we are in a better postion, you say we had a worrying second half , we won a trophy and we were virtually safe by mid march , the players dropped there performance by 10% and what ive learned in our two years in this league is you will get punished, bring up petty if you want the blokes a knob , yes mistakes were made but since then our club has been run to the highest order.

You brought up ''bigger than Barcelona" - that wasnt Cardiff City, that was the bullshitter and con man. Thats why I
mentioned Petty

I'd agree you are in a better position than us. You DID struggle second half of the season but have got the whole of the
summer to rectify things. Its all new to us. But I think if Malky gets the right players in we'll finish above you though.

i think you might seriously under estimate how tough this league is , i dont think you will finish above us , depends how we deal with europe, you might have a team full workers that will non stop run for 90 mins but in my opinion you also need quality. do you think you have the quality there at the moment,

Not at all. we need players. if we get Ince and Waynama or players of similar pedigree, and a couple more, then im confident we'll be ok. wont be able to say for sure until we know who the manager is going to bring in

Not at all. You asked for evidence on how we are a bigger club & I've provided that. I feel attendances are a part of what makes someone a bigger club.

Laugh all you like. That stats are there.

To be perfectly honest I dont give a toss if you are bigger than us or not, I just enjoy watching you all squirming around desperately trying to prove that you are..

its comedy gold

To be honest lad. Its fun. We cant lose. We're the bigger Club. There MUST be something in it because your
supporters are even drawn to Cardiff City websites in droves. So while your here... get used to being ridiculed.
You are clones of Wigan Athletic (without the FA Cup win)

You are massive we are tiny.
Although we did manage to win a trophy, today it looks like we will smash through the 12m pound barrier on a transfer after selling a player for 15m last season. We also have one of the hottest properties in football in michu and a genuine all time legend of the game as manager. I love being a small club.

you can be as big as you want (barcelona maybe ). nobody cares , the fact is in footballing terms on and off the pitch at the moment we are better than you, i'm not saying you wont catch up ,your the new boys in the division so dont get ahead of yourselves.

Check the league table feller.

Right now we are LEVEL on the pitch. Neither of us know how this season is going to pan out. We had an amazing season
last term, but are new to the Premiership. You had a pretty worrying second half to last season, but would hope that the
nucleus of last seasons team will be good enough with a few tweaks. You have an advantage, thats all

Forget ''Barcelona'' and that prick Hammam, or do you want me to bring up Tony Petty
and administration?

NOW... given all the criteria above re: size of crowds, size of ground, catchment area, populations of both
Cities. FUTURE plans re development. History's (in terms of honours). European experience.

Whos the biggest Club?

i don't think that we are a bigger club than you , just that we are in a better postion, you say we had a worrying second half , we won a trophy and we were virtually safe by mid march , the players dropped there performance by 10% and what ive learned in our two years in this league is you will get punished, bring up petty if you want the blokes a knob , yes mistakes were made but since then our club has been run to the highest order.

You brought up ''bigger than Barcelona" - that wasnt Cardiff City, that was the bullshitter and con man. Thats why I
mentioned Petty

I'd agree you are in a better position than us. You DID struggle second half of the season but have got the whole of the
summer to rectify things. Its all new to us. But I think if Malky gets the right players in we'll finish above you though.

i think you might seriously under estimate how tough this league is , i dont think you will finish above us , depends how we deal with europe, you might have a team full workers that will non stop run for 90 mins but in my opinion you also need quality. do you think you have the quality there at the moment,

Not at all. we need players. if we get Ince and Waynama or players of similar pedigree, and a couple more, then im confident we'll be ok. wont be able to say for sure until we know who the manager is going to bring in

thats why i dont think we are on level playing field, we have quality there at the moment , i dont mean the new signings they have to prove themselves.its difficult to guarantee quality signings on the budget both clubs have its a gamble.

You do give a toss, or you wouldn't have asked. Now you've been proved wrong, you're desperately trying to give the image that you don't care.

You've already admitted to me that you're "really stupid" once. Stop before you have to do so again.

But I dont and I haven't, its always one of you lot who you constantly drum on about how big you are, a psychiatrist dream getting some of you in a room for an hour

And fair play for just taking a few words from a sentence I made for your sig.. I bet you are really proud of yourself

To be honest lad. Its fun. We cant lose. We're the bigger Club. There MUST be something in it because your
supporters are even drawn to Cardiff City websites in droves. So while your here... get used to being ridiculed.
You are clones of Wigan Athletic (without the FA Cup win)

You cant lose? you cant see that we come on here to take the piss out of you

and we are clones of wigan? better than being QPR mk 2 though isn't it

But I dont and I haven't, its always one of you lot who you constantly drum on about how big you are, a psychiatrist dream getting some of you in a room for an hour

You have asked, earlier on in this thread.

Whos the biggest Club?

Then, when I provided you with an answer & backed it up.. You say it was desperate.

What a massive U turn you've made.

But I dont and I haven't, its always one of you lot who you constantly drum on about how big you are, a psychiatrist dream getting some of you in a room for an hour

You have asked, earlier on in this thread.

Whos the biggest Club?

Then, when I provided you with an answer & backed it up.. You say it was desperate.

What a massive U turn you've made.

No turn around, once again you are taking selective quotes.. I have never asked who is the biggest club, that was part of a reply to genders post..

You are making yourself look silly now....

I have never asked who is the biggest club.

From earlier in this thread...

So who are the biggest club?

Comedy Gold.

I have never asked who is the biggest club.

From earlier in this thread...

So who are the biggest club?

Comedy Gold.

You are getting really desperate now, I will leave it to the reader to trace back and see that once again you are taking things out of context...

Just give up.. you have lost the argument

Cold hard facts.

No desperation here. You asked a question, I provided you with answers and backed up my answers with statistics to prove it.

You don't like the answer & claim never to have asked the question & have made a massive U turn.

Then you claim to have won an argument.. What argument? There isn't one. you asked a question & didn't like the answer & started lying.

As I said, comedy gold. you are living up to my signature.

Ok fair to say Cardiff City is a bigger club. Bigger City. bigger ground. bigger fan base. But for two incredible
years, Swansea played at a higher level. We'll give you that one. Comparisons are likely to be made simply
because you people cannot stay off a Cardiff City message board. So it gives us a giggle. Think about it, a few
years ago when Cardiff were in a better position than Swansea.... were Swansea message boards inundated
with Cardiff City posters?.... we all know they weren't.

Because......

Your not that important to us.

Thread after thread on here of banter. but i doubt there's one of ours on this board would be arsed registering to
Planet Swans to make a point about Swansea. You lot really are obsessed

Ok fair to say Cardiff City is a bigger club. Bigger City. bigger ground. bigger fan base. But for two incredible
years, Swansea played at a higher level. We'll give you that one. Comparisons are likely to be made simply
because you people cannot stay off a Cardiff City message board. So it gives us a giggle. Think about it, a few
years ago when Cardiff were in a better position than Swansea.... were Swansea message boards inundated
with Cardiff City posters?.... we all know they weren't.

Because......

Your not that important to us.

Thread after thread on here of banter. but i doubt there's one of ours on this board would be arsed registering to
Planet Swans to make a point about Swansea. You lot really are obsessed

you'd be wrong there i'm afraid to say ,there are plenty of cardiff fans that come on swansea sites . in the past and present,seen them with my own eyes no debate there. you say obsession , the majority of swansea threads that are started here are posted by you lot , we are rivals so i do come here for a discussion or banter from time time. you lot certainly are not important to us , like i said rivals we will always be associated with each other especially now we are back playing each other.

Ok fair to say Cardiff City is a bigger club. Bigger City. bigger ground. bigger fan base. But for two incredible
years, Swansea played at a higher level. We'll give you that one. Comparisons are likely to be made simply
because you people cannot stay off a Cardiff City message board. So it gives us a giggle. Think about it, a few
years ago when Cardiff were in a better position than Swansea.... were Swansea message boards inundated
with Cardiff City posters?.... we all know they weren't.

Because......

Your not that important to us.

Thread after thread on here of banter. but i doubt there's one of ours on this board would be arsed registering to
Planet Swans to make a point about Swansea. You lot really are obsessed

you'd be wrong there i'm afraid to say ,there are plenty of cardiff fans that come on swansea sites . in the past and present,seen them with my own eyes no debate there. you say obsession , the majority of swansea threads that are started here are posted by you lot , we are rivals so i do come here for a discussion or banter from time time. you lot certainly are not important to us , like i said rivals we will always be associated with each other especially now we are back playing each other.

I just had a quick peep. Doesnt seem to be the case. Cant see Cardiff posters even on the ''Cardiff City" thread
or the new Bony one

Ok fair to say Cardiff City is a bigger club. Bigger City. bigger ground. bigger fan base. But for two incredible
years, Swansea played at a higher level. We'll give you that one. Comparisons are likely to be made simply
because you people cannot stay off a Cardiff City message board. So it gives us a giggle. Think about it, a few
years ago when Cardiff were in a better position than Swansea.... were Swansea message boards inundated
with Cardiff City posters?.... we all know they weren't.

Because......

Your not that important to us.

Thread after thread on here of banter. but i doubt there's one of ours on this board would be arsed registering to
Planet Swans to make a point about Swansea. You lot really are obsessed

you'd be wrong there i'm afraid to say ,there are plenty of cardiff fans that come on swansea sites . in the past and present,seen them with my own eyes no debate there. you say obsession , the majority of swansea threads that are started here are posted by you lot , we are rivals so i do come here for a discussion or banter from time time. you lot certainly are not important to us , like i said rivals we will always be associated with each other especially now we are back playing each other.

I just had a quick peep. Doesnt seem to be the case. Cant see Cardiff posters even on the ''Cardiff City" thread
or the new Bony one

well i have a few conversations with cardiff fans , and i should have mentioned i dont use planet swans , scfc2 is my preferred choice.

Whats important here is that the mighty Swans are a much better team than cardiff, nothing more to talk about really

Whats important here is that the mighty Swans are a much better team than cardiff, nothing more to talk about really

Last season... agreed. This season hasnt started yet.

I think it rankles with a lot of Swansea supporters that we feel superior to Swansea. I'm sorry but its true. It must
frustrate the living shit out of Swansea fans that they can even win a Cup Final and Cardiff City supporters can
still feel 'better' than them. Two seasons in the Premiership and we are still the biggest Club in Wales. Get used
to it. You come from a small City, a City rife with drug/alcohol and unemployment problems. A city where the
population is shrinking as people leave in search of hope, of a better life. Swansea can never be a 'big' Club. Thats
just undeniable plain fact. Cardiff City are not a Leeds or an Everton, but the potential is there to be as big as
these Clubs. Over 1,000,000 people in an area where rugby is dying on its arse and where SKY Sports rules.? Thats
what Swansea are terrified of. We will never ever have that fear that Swansea can become a 'big' Club. Forget that
Jenkins etc have done such a good job (and they have)... Swansea City are not even big enough or powerful enough
to get out of a ground share. Sorry. But there ya go.

Whats important here is that the mighty Swans are a much better team than cardiff, nothing more to talk about really

Last season... agreed. This season hasnt started yet.

I think it rankles with a lot of Swansea supporters that we feel superior to Swansea. I'm sorry but its true. It must
frustrate the living shit out of Swansea fans that they can even win a Cup Final and Cardiff City supporters can
still feel 'better' than them. Two seasons in the Premiership and we are still the biggest Club in Wales. Get used
to it. You come from a small City, a City rife with drug/alcohol and unemployment problems. A city where the
population is shrinking as people leave in search of hope, of a better life. Swansea can never be a 'big' Club. Thats
just undeniable plain fact. Cardiff City are not a Leeds or an Everton, but the potential is there to be as big as
these Clubs. Over 1,000,000 people in an area where rugby is dying on its arse and where SKY Sports rules.? Thats
what Swansea are terrified of. We will never ever have that fear that Swansea can become a 'big' Club. Forget that
Jenkins etc have done such a good job (and they have)... Swansea City are not even big enough or powerful enough
to get out of a ground share. Sorry. But there ya go.

what is it with you lot and your big club syndrome, it means jack shit pal , you can be a big club and win sweet fa (newcastle, leeds etc, its about being successful,this has been a decent chat until your last post, if only we could all be like cardiff , no drug/alcohol problems every one works, what a place ,wow, you think your shit don't smell pal, your just as deluded as the majority on here , no wonder we come on here your comedy gold . lets see how the season unfolds , them we will chat again

Whats important here is that the mighty Swans are a much better team than cardiff, nothing more to talk about really

Last season... agreed. This season hasnt started yet.

I think it rankles with a lot of Swansea supporters that we feel superior to Swansea. I'm sorry but its true. It must
frustrate the living shit out of Swansea fans that they can even win a Cup Final and Cardiff City supporters can
still feel 'better' than them. Two seasons in the Premiership and we are still the biggest Club in Wales. Get used
to it. You come from a small City, a City rife with drug/alcohol and unemployment problems. A city where the
population is shrinking as people leave in search of hope, of a better life. Swansea can never be a 'big' Club. Thats
just undeniable plain fact. Cardiff City are not a Leeds or an Everton, but the potential is there to be as big as
these Clubs. Over 1,000,000 people in an area where rugby is dying on its arse and where SKY Sports rules.? Thats
what Swansea are terrified of. We will never ever have that fear that Swansea can become a 'big' Club. Forget that
Jenkins etc have done such a good job (and they have)... Swansea City are not even big enough or powerful enough
to get out of a ground share. Sorry. But there ya go.

what is it with you lot and your big club syndrome, it means jack shit pal , you can be a big club and win sweet fa (newcastle, leeds etc, its about being successful,this has been a decent chat until your last post, if only we could all be like cardiff , no drug/alcohol problems every one works, what a place ,wow, you think your shit don't smell pal, your just as deluded as the majority on here , no wonder we come on here your comedy gold . lets see how the season unfolds , them we will chat again

Cardiff is one of the most vibrant, growing major capitals in Europe. Swansea isn't. It stands to reason we get a
Football team to match the image of the City itself. It also stands to reason that although your having a decent
couple of years... your team will soon (once more) mirror the City it represents

I think it was a good job the jacks didn't hang around in the top div. in the 80's , we was crap as usual ,and I had a feeling places like Bridgend was about to turn white.

Whats important here is that the mighty Swans are a much better team than cardiff, nothing more to talk about really

Last season... agreed. This season hasnt started yet.

I think it rankles with a lot of Swansea supporters that we feel superior to Swansea. I'm sorry but its true. It must
frustrate the living shit out of Swansea fans that they can even win a Cup Final and Cardiff City supporters can
still feel 'better' than them. Two seasons in the Premiership and we are still the biggest Club in Wales. Get used
to it. You come from a small City, a City rife with drug/alcohol and unemployment problems. A city where the
population is shrinking as people leave in search of hope, of a better life. Swansea can never be a 'big' Club. Thats
just undeniable plain fact. Cardiff City are not a Leeds or an Everton, but the potential is there to be as big as
these Clubs. Over 1,000,000 people in an area where rugby is dying on its arse and where SKY Sports rules.? Thats
what Swansea are terrified of. We will never ever have that fear that Swansea can become a 'big' Club. Forget that
Jenkins etc have done such a good job (and they have)... Swansea City are not even big enough or powerful enough
to get out of a ground share. Sorry. But there ya go.

what is it with you lot and your big club syndrome, it means jack shit pal , you can be a big club and win sweet fa (newcastle, leeds etc, its about being successful,this has been a decent chat until your last post, if only we could all be like cardiff , no drug/alcohol problems every one works, what a place ,wow, you think your shit don't smell pal, your just as deluded as the majority on here , no wonder we come on here your comedy gold . lets see how the season unfolds , them we will chat again

Cardiff is one of the most vibrant, growing major capitals in Europe. Swansea isn't. It stands to reason we get a
Football team to match the image of the City itself. It also stands to reason that although your having a decent
couple of years... your team will soon (once more) mirror the City it represents

but then you might end up back in the champioship , that would'nt be fitting for such a vibrant wonderful city,

& you might end up back there too. I love how some of you lot seem to think you're immune to relegation.