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Re: Jacks make €16million bid!!

Fri Jul 05, 2013 7:22 pm

waddle wrote:
Kiffa wrote:
waddle wrote:
Kiffa wrote:
waddle wrote:
CitySteve wrote:Jenkins must have had a sweetner from theis Chinese Sponsors, the money that they are chucking around. Mmmmm Problems developing down west. Think the cautious approach will do us a world of good in the long run :ayatollah: :old:

cautious !!! you've payed 8 mill for an unproven striker and have bid 8 mill for ince also unproven in the prem , you think that is caution
for what it's worth i think they'll do well mind


To be fair, any player that you bring in from outside the Premier League is unproven in the Premier League, regardless of their form outside of it

yes but you can't say paying 8 mill + for them is being cautious though can you


I didnt say it was being cautious did I?

It was more a response to the unproven part of your argument, which i keep hearing over our signings but never over Swansea's, apart from De Guzman and Shelvey they are all unproven.

I think we may well be paying a little over the odds for these players but we have only just come up andI think we have to put a bit more down on players to be competetive in the market.

if you call playing in la liga unproven you don't know much about football fella :roll:


If you have never played in the premier league then you are unproven in the premier league. Do you not read peoples posts properly?

Re: Jacks make €16million bid!!

Fri Jul 05, 2013 7:27 pm

I Bleed Blue wrote:Quality signing, proven goalscorer. Malky take note

I've got a pair of adidas trainer's here, never worn. Paid 50 you can have them for 65 that's what I value them at now.

Re: Jacks make €16million bid!!

Fri Jul 05, 2013 7:31 pm

waddle wrote:
pembroke allan wrote:
waddle wrote:
Mario Polotelli wrote:
englishbluebird wrote:Sir huw :oops: :oops: always makes me cringe when a jack says this


No different to the "In Malky We trust" bollocks.

cheers polo mate i can stand up for myself but it's nice to know you've got my back :thumbright:


Twaddle the sun gone to head? Being very complimentary today! :lol:

no mate i still think he's a lid i'm just being sarcastic :thumbright:


Must admit you are being really good with your responses today! Maybe Ml realises he may not be able to get bargain basement player's of suitable quality? Whilst we are paying or propose to pay big money it is for quality if not proven at this level, rather that than older has beens with no desire. :thumbup:

Re: Jacks make €16million bid!!

Fri Jul 05, 2013 7:31 pm

waddle wrote:
pembroke allan wrote:
waddle wrote:
Mario Polotelli wrote:
englishbluebird wrote:Sir huw :oops: :oops: always makes me cringe when a jack says this


No different to the "In Malky We trust" bollocks.

cheers polo mate i can stand up for myself but it's nice to know you've got my back :thumbright:


Twaddle the sun gone to head? Being very complimentary today! :lol:

no mate i still think he's a lid i'm just being sarcastic :thumbright:


Must admit you are being really good with your responses today! Maybe Ml realises he may not be able to get bargain basement player's of suitable quality? Whilst we are paying or propose to pay big money it is for quality if not proven at this level, rather that than older has beens with no desire. :thumbup:

Re: Jacks make €16million bid!!

Fri Jul 05, 2013 7:32 pm

so are you saying a player from la liga is unproven !! , do you think it's a gamble bringing in players from seville , betis , valencia etc :lol:

Re: Jacks make €16million bid!!

Fri Jul 05, 2013 7:37 pm

waddle wrote:so are you saying a player from la liga is unproven !! , do you think it's a gamble bringing in players from seville , betis , valencia etc :lol:


A player from la liga can be proven in la liga. Only when he has played well in the premier league is he proven in the premier league.

I am not entirely sure how much simpler i could make it for you :roll:

I suggest you read my original argument again and have a bit of thinking time on it.

Re: Jacks make €16million bid!!

Fri Jul 05, 2013 7:37 pm

waddle wrote:so are you saying a player from la liga is unproven !! , do you think it's a gamble bringing in players from seville , betis , valencia etc :lol:

Loads of good players didn't cut it in the prem but did in la liga

Re: Jacks make €16million bid!!

Fri Jul 05, 2013 7:38 pm

pembroke allan wrote:
waddle wrote:
pembroke allan wrote:
waddle wrote:
Mario Polotelli wrote:
englishbluebird wrote:Sir huw :oops: :oops: always makes me cringe when a jack says this


No different to the "In Malky We trust" bollocks.

cheers polo mate i can stand up for myself but it's nice to know you've got my back :thumbright:


Twaddle the sun gone to head? Being very complimentary today! :lol:

no mate i still think he's a lid i'm just being sarcastic :thumbright:


Must admit you are being really good with your responses today! Maybe Ml realises he may not be able to get bargain basement player's of suitable quality? Whilst we are paying or propose to pay big money it is for quality if not proven at this level, rather that than older has beens with no desire. :thumbup:

our problem al is we are now a top half premier league team and we now have to compete with the other top half teams financially and in our search for players but sir huw won't spend what he hasn't got so it's all good at the moment

Re: Jacks make €16million bid!!

Fri Jul 05, 2013 7:41 pm

waddle wrote:so are you saying a player from la liga is unproven !! , do you think it's a gamble bringing in players from seville , betis , valencia etc :lol:


Nooo any player who performance is good in any league is proven, was referring to being proven in premier! Who am I to argue with the twaddle! :lol:

Re: Jacks make €16million bid!!

Fri Jul 05, 2013 7:41 pm

Kiffa wrote:
waddle wrote:so are you saying a player from la liga is unproven !! , do you think it's a gamble bringing in players from seville , betis , valencia etc :lol:


A player from la liga can be proven in la liga. Only when he has played well in the premier league is he proven in the premier league.

I am not entirely sure how much simpler i could make it for you :roll:

I suggest you read my original argument again and have a bit of thinking time on it.

yes you definitely are chuckles jr :lol:

Re: Jacks make €16million bid!!

Fri Jul 05, 2013 7:44 pm

pembroke allan wrote:
waddle wrote:so are you saying a player from la liga is unproven !! , do you think it's a gamble bringing in players from seville , betis , valencia etc :lol:


Nooo any player who performance is good in any league is proven, was referring to being proven in premier! Who am I to argue with the twaddle! :lol:

don't agree al , if you have someone who's done it in spain , germany or italy , you cannot then say that someone from latvian , danish or norwegian is proven to the high standard of the former

Re: Jacks make €16million bid!!

Fri Jul 05, 2013 7:45 pm

waddle wrote:
pembroke allan wrote:
waddle wrote:so are you saying a player from la liga is unproven !! , do you think it's a gamble bringing in players from seville , betis , valencia etc :lol:


Nooo any player who performance is good in any league is proven, was referring to being proven in premier! Who am I to argue with the twaddle! :lol:

don't agree al , if you have someone who's done it in spain , germany or italy , you cannot then say that someone from latvian , danish or norwegian is proven to the high standard of the former


Lol you're missing the point so much its funny :lol:

Re: Jacks make €16million bid!!

Fri Jul 05, 2013 7:51 pm

waddle wrote:
Kiffa wrote:
waddle wrote:so are you saying a player from la liga is unproven !! , do you think it's a gamble bringing in players from seville , betis , valencia etc :lol:


A player from la liga can be proven in la liga. Only when he has played well in the premier league is he proven in the premier league.

I am not entirely sure how much simpler i could make it for you :roll:

I suggest you read my original argument again and have a bit of thinking time on it.

yes you definitely are chuckles jr :lol:


Mmmm was a bit of an obvious point any player is proven in whatever league they've played in? Not sure what the argument is on that point? Could be right twaddle my old mucker! :wave:

Re: Jacks make €16million bid!!

Fri Jul 05, 2013 7:54 pm

Kiffa wrote:
waddle wrote:
pembroke allan wrote:
waddle wrote:so are you saying a player from la liga is unproven !! , do you think it's a gamble bringing in players from seville , betis , valencia etc :lol:


Nooo any player who performance is good in any league is proven, was referring to being proven in premier! Who am I to argue with the twaddle! :lol:

don't agree al , if you have someone who's done it in spain , germany or italy , you cannot then say that someone from latvian , danish or norwegian is proven to the high standard of the former


Lol you're missing the point so much its funny :lol:

you are arguing semantics about a pointless topic you have just latched on to premier league and are not willing to talk about anything other than that , a player who has played in the best league in the world is proven at the highest level wether it be prem , la liga ,serie a or bundesliege

Re: Jacks make €16million bid!!

Fri Jul 05, 2013 7:54 pm

pembroke allan wrote:
waddle wrote:
Kiffa wrote:
waddle wrote:so are you saying a player from la liga is unproven !! , do you think it's a gamble bringing in players from seville , betis , valencia etc :lol:


A player from la liga can be proven in la liga. Only when he has played well in the premier league is he proven in the premier league.

I am not entirely sure how much simpler i could make it for you :roll:

I suggest you read my original argument again and have a bit of thinking time on it.

yes you definitely are chuckles jr :lol:


Mmmm was a bit of an obvious point any player is proven in whatever league they've played in? Not sure what the argument is on that point? Could be right twaddle my old mucker! :wave:


f**k me it's Dumb and Dumber!

Re: Jacks make €16million bid!!

Fri Jul 05, 2013 7:55 pm

waddle wrote:
Kiffa wrote:
waddle wrote:so are you saying a player from la liga is unproven !! , do you think it's a gamble bringing in players from seville , betis , valencia etc :lol:


A player from la liga can be proven in la liga. Only when he has played well in the premier league is he proven in the premier league.

I am not entirely sure how much simpler i could make it for you :roll:

I suggest you read my original argument again and have a bit of thinking time on it.

yes you definitely are chuckles jr :lol:


Mmmm was a bit of an obvious point any player is proven in whatever league they've played in? Not sure what the argument is on that point? Could be right twaddle my old mucker! :wave:

Re: Jacks make €16million bid!!

Fri Jul 05, 2013 7:56 pm

waddle wrote:
Kiffa wrote:
waddle wrote:so are you saying a player from la liga is unproven !! , do you think it's a gamble bringing in players from seville , betis , valencia etc :lol:


A player from la liga can be proven in la liga. Only when he has played well in the premier league is he proven in the premier league.

I am not entirely sure how much simpler i could make it for you :roll:

I suggest you read my original argument again and have a bit of thinking time on it.

yes you definitely are chuckles jr :lol:


Mmmm was a bit of an obvious point any player is proven in whatever league they've played in? Not sure what the argument is on that point? Could be right twaddle my old mucker! :wave:

Re: Jacks make €16million bid!!

Fri Jul 05, 2013 7:59 pm

waddle wrote:
Kiffa wrote:
waddle wrote:
pembroke allan wrote:
waddle wrote:so are you saying a player from la liga is unproven !! , do you think it's a gamble bringing in players from seville , betis , valencia etc :lol:


Nooo any player who performance is good in any league is proven, was referring to being proven in premier! Who am I to argue with the twaddle! :lol:

don't agree al , if you have someone who's done it in spain , germany or italy , you cannot then say that someone from latvian , danish or norwegian is proven to the high standard of the former


Lol you're missing the point so much its funny :lol:

you are arguing semantics about a pointless topic you have just latched on to premier league and are not willing to talk about anything other than that , a player who has played in the best league in the world is proven at the highest level wether it be prem , la liga ,serie a or bundesliege


I don't disagree with you. A player who is proven at the highest level is of course proven.

However, each league has it's own subtleties to it including two different leagues in the same country. This makes it impossible to say with certainty that a player who is proven in one league will be a success in another, and there are countless examples of this. With this in mind I would say that signing any player for any league that has not played in that league before carries an element being a gamble.

Would you agree with the above?

Re: Jacks make €16million bid!!

Fri Jul 05, 2013 8:02 pm

Kiffa wrote:
pembroke allan wrote:
waddle wrote:
Kiffa wrote:
waddle wrote:so are you saying a player from la liga is unproven !! , do you think it's a gamble bringing in players from seville , betis , valencia etc :lol:


A player from la liga can be proven in la liga. Only when he has played well in the premier league is he proven in the premier league.

I am not entirely sure how much simpler i could make it for you :roll:

I suggest you read my original argument again and have a bit of thinking time on it.

yes you definitely are chuckles jr :lol:


Mmmm was a bit of an obvious point any player is proven in whatever league they've played in? Not sure what the argument is on that point? Could be right twaddle my old mucker! :wave:


f**k me it's Dumb and Dumber!

you should have just said i give up it would have saved you a bit of face :lol:

Re: Jacks make €16million bid!!

Fri Jul 05, 2013 8:05 pm

Kiffa wrote:
waddle wrote:
Kiffa wrote:
waddle wrote:
pembroke allan wrote:
waddle wrote:so are you saying a player from la liga is unproven !! , do you think it's a gamble bringing in players from seville , betis , valencia etc :lol:


Nooo any player who performance is good in any league is proven, was referring to being proven in premier! Who am I to argue with the twaddle! :lol:

don't agree al , if you have someone who's done it in spain , germany or italy , you cannot then say that someone from latvian , danish or norwegian is proven to the high standard of the former


Lol you're missing the point so much its funny :lol:

you are arguing semantics about a pointless topic you have just latched on to premier league and are not willing to talk about anything other than that , a player who has played in the best league in the world is proven at the highest level wether it be prem , la liga ,serie a or bundesliege


I don't disagree with you. A player who is proven at the highest level is of course proven.

However, each league has it's own subtleties to it including two different leagues in the same country. This makes it impossible to say with certainty that a player who is proven in one league will be a success in another, and there are countless examples of this. With this in mind I would say that signing any player for any league that has not played in that league before carries an element being a gamble.

Would you agree with the above?

not really in these recent times , the main thing that caught out foreign players was the physical side of the game and even playing surfaces , these thing aren't an issue in the modern game and we are now trying to play their continental style (well some of us are)

Re: Jacks make €16million bid!!

Fri Jul 05, 2013 8:06 pm

waddle wrote:
Kiffa wrote:
waddle wrote:
pembroke allan wrote:
waddle wrote:so are you saying a player from la liga is unproven !! , do you think it's a gamble bringing in players from seville , betis , valencia etc :lol:


Nooo any player who performance is good in any league is proven, was referring to being proven in premier! Who am I to argue with the twaddle! :lol:

don't agree al , if you have someone who's done it in spain , germany or italy , you cannot then say that someone from latvian , danish or norwegian is proven to the high standard of the former


Lol you're missing the point so much its funny :lol:

you are arguing semantics about a pointless topic you have just latched on to premier league and are not willing to talk about anything other than that , a player who has played in the best league in the world is proven at the highest level wether it be prem , la liga ,serie a or bundesliege


I don't disagree with you. A player who is proven at the highest level is of course proven.

However, each league has it's own subtleties to it including two different leagues in the same country. This makes it impossible to say with certainty that a player who is proven in one league will be a success in another, and there are countless examples of this. With this in mind I would say that signing any player for any league that has not played in that league before carries an element being a gamble.

Would you agree with the above?

Re: Jacks make €16million bid!!

Fri Jul 05, 2013 8:10 pm

Nooo any player who performance is good in any league is proven, was referring to being proven in premier! Who am I to argue with the twaddle! :lol:[/quote]
don't agree al , if you have someone who's done it in spain , germany or italy , you cannot then say that someone from latvian , danish or norwegian is proven to the high standard of the former[/quote]

Lol you're missing the point so much its funny :lol:[/quote]
you are arguing semantics about a pointless topic you have just latched on to premier league and are not willing to talk about anything other than that , a player who has played in the best league in the world is proven at the highest level wether it be prem , la liga ,serie a or bundesliege[/quote]

I don't disagree with you. A player who is proven at the highest level is of course proven.

However, each league has it's own subtleties to it including two different leagues in the same country. This makes it impossible to say with certainty that a player who is proven in one league will be a success in another, and there are countless examples of this. With this in mind I would say that signing any player for any league that has not played in that league before carries an element being a gamble.

Would you agree with the above?[/quote]
not really in these recent times , the main thing that caught out foreign players was the physical side of the game and even playing surfaces , these thing aren't an issue in the modern game and we are now trying to play their continental style (well some of us are)[/quote]

Still plenty of flops coming in. I think one of the most difficult aspects of the Premier League is the fact that we tend to buy from foreign countries more than anyone so the mix of styles is probably the largest out of all the european leagues. Other leagues have a much larger proportion of homegrown players so imo, the Premier League is still the most difficult to shine in.

Re: Jacks make €16million bid!!

Fri Jul 05, 2013 8:16 pm

yes but it's up to the club to buy the players to suit the teams playing style

anyway we could be here all night so i'm off , have a good evening fella :thumbright:

Re: Jacks make €16million bid!!

Fri Jul 05, 2013 9:54 pm

waddle wrote:
Cardiff Daft! wrote:
waddle wrote:I know we have the money but this still makes me strangely uneasy , then again i suppose a statement of intent for the coming season from sir huw, if we get him all we need is another striker and we're sorted

very confident of turning you over home and away at the moment :D


:lol: god help you if you dont!

of course we will , then again we seem to play better against the better teams , so if you somehow drag us down to your level you might get a draw ................... naah , home and away wins at the moment :thumbright:



Malky will spend over £50million by the start of the season, to early to judge :ayatollah:

Re: Jacks make €16million bid!!

Fri Jul 05, 2013 10:04 pm

Bluebina wrote:
waddle wrote:
Cardiff Daft! wrote:
waddle wrote:I know we have the money but this still makes me strangely uneasy , then again i suppose a statement of intent for the coming season from sir huw, if we get him all we need is another striker and we're sorted

very confident of turning you over home and away at the moment :D


:lol: god help you if you dont!

of course we will , then again we seem to play better against the better teams , so if you somehow drag us down to your level you might get a draw ................... naah , home and away wins at the moment :thumbright:



Malky will spend over £50million by the start of the season, to early to judge :ayatollah:


So much for you lot getting to the Premier League to sort out your finances then :laughing6:

Re: Jacks make €16million bid!!

Fri Jul 05, 2013 10:43 pm

Tbh they've got the money to spend and they've been established in Premier League for a couple of seasons. The old Bristolian worked that one out with Palace's bid for Shelvey.

Re: Jacks make €16million bid!!

Fri Jul 05, 2013 10:47 pm

NJ73 wrote:
Bluebina wrote:
waddle wrote:
Cardiff Daft! wrote:
waddle wrote:I know we have the money but this still makes me strangely uneasy , then again i suppose a statement of intent for the coming season from sir huw, if we get him all we need is another striker and we're sorted

very confident of turning you over home and away at the moment :D


:lol: god help you if you dont!

of course we will , then again we seem to play better against the better teams , so if you somehow drag us down to your level you might get a draw ................... naah , home and away wins at the moment :thumbright:



Malky will spend over £50million by the start of the season, to early to judge :ayatollah:


So much for you lot getting to the Premier League to sort out your finances then :laughing6:


#another Swansea fan who is in the know about city's finances ect ect hope they don't go on mastermind with specialist subject Swansea as wouldn't have a fcking clue as spend more time specializing on ccfc than own club! :laughing5:

Re: Jacks make €16million bid!!

Fri Jul 05, 2013 10:51 pm

pembroke allan wrote:
NJ73 wrote:
Bluebina wrote:
waddle wrote:
Cardiff Daft! wrote:
waddle wrote:I know we have the money but this still makes me strangely uneasy , then again i suppose a statement of intent for the coming season from sir huw, if we get him all we need is another striker and we're sorted

very confident of turning you over home and away at the moment :D


:lol: god help you if you dont!

of course we will , then again we seem to play better against the better teams , so if you somehow drag us down to your level you might get a draw ................... naah , home and away wins at the moment :thumbright:



Malky will spend over £50million by the start of the season, to early to judge :ayatollah:


So much for you lot getting to the Premier League to sort out your finances then :laughing6:


#another Swansea fan who is in the know about city's finances ect ect hope they don't go on mastermind with specialist subject Swansea as wouldn't have a fcking clue as spend more time specializing on ccfc than own club! :laughing5:


Bloody hell Al your finances aren't exactly unknown :laughing6:

Re: Jacks make €16million bid!!

Fri Jul 05, 2013 10:55 pm

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Re: Jacks make €16million bid!!

Fri Jul 05, 2013 11:01 pm

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