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Re: Ince V Sinclair

Tue Jul 02, 2013 12:14 pm

Barry Chuckle wrote:
BigBadG wrote:I think you have taken my statement 'any fuca an score a pen' to seriously, o dear

BEAUTY


No, you've just been proven to talk absolute nonsense.. AGAIN. :lol:

Care to tell me how a penalty isn't a real goal?

I bet when McCormack scored all those pens a few years ago, you were praising what a great goal scorer he was too.. :laughing6:


I just don't understand his point.

if a pen isn't a real goal then wouldn't we have to take away every strike at goal from less than 12 yards with no pressure from defenders? point blank headers etc?

Re: Ince V Sinclair

Tue Jul 02, 2013 12:22 pm

Who said a pen is not a real goal, i was comparing goals between ince and sinclair in open play, as its not fair to compare their goals when putting the pens into context, because ince did not have the chance to take 7 pens so how can you compare. Standard

Re: Ince V Sinclair

Tue Jul 02, 2013 12:23 pm

Pontyclun Blue wrote:
Barry Chuckle wrote:
BigBadG wrote:Your talking in riddles and making up shit now, classic you are a beauty


Not riddles, just basic English language. I'm sure a man educated to degree standard like you claim to be, should have no problems reading it. :thumbup:

"Any fuca (note spelling) can score a penalty" - now I'm afraid that you are the only one scoring bollocks here... Or didnt you see Anthony Gerrard's penalty miss at Wembley? :laughing6:


S'hhhhh we don't talk about that miss :cry: :cry:


Sorry blue. :ayatollah: although, in the long term... It probably was for the best? Would have made it a lot tougher this season, with European ties in the mix?

Then again, would have been amazing. Tough one to call.

Re: Ince V Sinclair

Tue Jul 02, 2013 12:25 pm

BigBadG wrote:Who said a pen is not a real goal, i was comparing goals between ince and sinclair in open play, as its not fair to compare their goals when putting the pens into context, because ince did not have the chance to take 7 pens so how can you compare. Standard


which surely means he wasn't the best penalty taker for Blackpool. if he was then he would have had the chance. Its like taking away Beckhams free kick goals when comparing to scholes because Scholes didn't get the chance to take many free kicks. It was Beckhams ability to execute them that gives him the chance.

Re: Ince V Sinclair

Tue Jul 02, 2013 12:29 pm

sabrinatheteenagebitch wrote:
BigBadG wrote:Who said a pen is not a real goal, i was comparing goals between ince and sinclair in open play, as its not fair to compare their goals when putting the pens into context, because ince did not have the chance to take 7 pens so how can you compare. Standard


which surely means he wasn't the best penalty taker for Blackpool. if he was then he would have had the chance. Its like taking away Beckhams free kick goals when comparing to scholes because Scholes didn't get the chance to take many free kicks. It was Beckhams ability to execute them that gives him the chance.


He was blackpools penalty taker tho?

Re: Ince V Sinclair

Tue Jul 02, 2013 12:34 pm

BigBadG wrote:
sabrinatheteenagebitch wrote:
BigBadG wrote:Who said a pen is not a real goal, i was comparing goals between ince and sinclair in open play, as its not fair to compare their goals when putting the pens into context, because ince did not have the chance to take 7 pens so how can you compare. Standard


which surely means he wasn't the best penalty taker for Blackpool. if he was then he would have had the chance. Its like taking away Beckhams free kick goals when comparing to scholes because Scholes didn't get the chance to take many free kicks. It was Beckhams ability to execute them that gives him the chance.


He was blackpools penalty taker tho?


fair enough. still don't see how you can not count them though. like I said, how many tap ins did both score? a lot easier to score than a pen.

Re: Ince V Sinclair

Tue Jul 02, 2013 12:40 pm

I just wanted to compare open play goals though if thats orite with every1? Lol

Re: Ince V Sinclair

Tue Jul 02, 2013 12:42 pm

Barry Chuckle wrote:
Pontyclun Blue wrote:
Barry Chuckle wrote:
BigBadG wrote:Your talking in riddles and making up shit now, classic you are a beauty


Not riddles, just basic English language. I'm sure a man educated to degree standard like you claim to be, should have no problems reading it. :thumbup:

"Any fuca (note spelling) can score a penalty" - now I'm afraid that you are the only one scoring bollocks here... Or didnt you see Anthony Gerrard's penalty miss at Wembley? :laughing6:


S'hhhhh we don't talk about that miss :cry: :cry:


Sorry blue. :ayatollah: although, in the long term... It probably was for the best? Would have made it a lot tougher this season, with European ties in the mix?

Then again, would have been amazing. Tough one to call.


Agree, it was between the deep and the dark Blue sea, would of been one of the best feelings if we would of one the cup, but on the other hand would we of been promoted with all the extra games. As you say tough one to call

Re: Ince V Sinclair

Tue Jul 02, 2013 12:44 pm

BigBadG wrote:I just wanted to compare open play goals though if thats orite with every1? Lol


well yeah its fine, but it is just a bit pointless and selective to make a thread about it.

like me comparing crouch and defoe and not counting headed goals for some reason. doesn't really give a true representation.

Re: Ince V Sinclair

Tue Jul 02, 2013 12:47 pm

sabrinatheteenagebitch wrote:
BigBadG wrote:I just wanted to compare open play goals though if thats orite with every1? Lol


well yeah its fine, but it is just a bit pointless and selective to make a thread about it.

like me comparing crouch and defoe and not counting headed goals for some reason. doesn't really give a true representation.


Haha cant believe you just said that. Classic

Re: Ince V Sinclair

Tue Jul 02, 2013 12:52 pm

BigBadG wrote:
sabrinatheteenagebitch wrote:
BigBadG wrote:I just wanted to compare open play goals though if thats orite with every1? Lol


well yeah its fine, but it is just a bit pointless and selective to make a thread about it.

like me comparing crouch and defoe and not counting headed goals for some reason. doesn't really give a true representation.


Haha cant believe you just said that. Classic


well at least youre understanding how we are feeling now. most of us cant believe you want to not count some goals because they were penalties.

Re: Ince V Sinclair

Tue Jul 02, 2013 12:56 pm

I wanted to compare open play goals though, obviously penalties count, but i was comparing goals in open play between the 2 players, have you never seen any1 compare goals in open play between 2 players them? Lol

Re: Ince V Sinclair

Tue Jul 02, 2013 1:00 pm

BigBadG wrote:I wanted to compare open play goals though, obviously penalties count, but i was comparing goals in open play between the 2 players, have you never seen any1 compare goals in open play between 2 players them? Lol


yes but never seen the point, and still not seeing it here.

Re: Ince V Sinclair

Tue Jul 02, 2013 1:05 pm

And we can conveniently forget about a hat trick in the biggest game of the season.

Re: Ince V Sinclair

Tue Jul 02, 2013 1:08 pm

I no penalties count, but i cant see how you can count them on a players ability to score goals. A penalty is put on a spot 12 yards out with a high chance of scoring. Open play goals are goals scored by yourself through skill, movement etc so comparing ince's and sinclairs goal record including pens is just not fair as ince did not have as many chances to score a pen as sinclair had

Re: Ince V Sinclair

Tue Jul 02, 2013 1:10 pm

jackf wrote:And we can conveniently forget about a hat trick in the biggest game of the season.


How you can count 3 extra games that sinclair played i dont know. If blackpool had 3 extra playoff games he may have scored 2/3/4/5 goals you just dont know so its not fair to compare extra games

Re: Ince V Sinclair

Tue Jul 02, 2013 1:26 pm

BigBadG wrote:
jackf wrote:And we can conveniently forget about a hat trick in the biggest game of the season.


How you can count 3 extra games that sinclair played i dont know. If blackpool had 3 extra playoff games he may have scored 2/3/4/5 goals you just dont know so its not fair to compare extra games

Irrelevant. Do you include cup game, what about injuries, suspensions, internationals, etc etc. You cant asses a players contribution and ignore a hat trick in the biggest game of the season. And to ignore penalties is a joke. Ever thought of a career in politics?

Re: Ince V Sinclair

Tue Jul 02, 2013 1:26 pm

Barry Chuckle wrote:
Pontyclun Blue wrote:
Barry Chuckle wrote:
BigBadG wrote:Your talking in riddles and making up shit now, classic you are a beauty


Not riddles, just basic English language. I'm sure a man educated to degree standard like you claim to be, should have no problems reading it. :thumbup:

"Any fuca (note spelling) can score a penalty" - now I'm afraid that you are the only one scoring bollocks here... Or didnt you see Anthony Gerrard's penalty miss at Wembley? :laughing6:


S'hhhhh we don't talk about that miss :cry: :cry:


Sorry blue. :ayatollah: although, in the long term... It probably was for the best? Would have made it a lot tougher this season, with European ties in the mix?

Then again, would have been amazing. Tough one to call.


For the best? Not really every1 would have loved to win that cup

Re: Ince V Sinclair

Tue Jul 02, 2013 1:26 pm

BigBadG wrote:I no penalties count, but i cant see how you can count them on a players ability to score goals. A penalty is put on a spot 12 yards out with a high chance of scoring. Open play goals are goals scored by yourself through skill, movement etc so comparing ince's and sinclairs goal record including pens is just not fair as ince did not have as many chances to score a pen as sinclair had


Its easier to score a tap in from one yard or a header at point blank range put on a plate than a pressure penalty believe me. if you are going to look at the goals scored and decide which ones are worthy goals then surely you would have to look at them all as guaranteed both players have scored easier goals than the penalties you are excluding. besides it could have been through a piece of skill and movement that they won the penalty in the first place let alone dispatch it from 12 yards.

Re: Ince V Sinclair

Tue Jul 02, 2013 1:28 pm

BigBadG wrote:
For the best? Not really every1 would have loved to win that cup


I like how you've chosen to ignore most of my post. I said myself it would have been amazing to win the cup. Would we have gained promotion this season with the added fixtures etc? Would have been harder.. So yes, overall - it was for the best IN MY OPINION. :thumbright:

Re: Ince V Sinclair

Tue Jul 02, 2013 1:29 pm

Yes but you still have to be in the right place to score these so called tap in's, which would require good movement. Wheras penalties are put on a plate for you.

Re: Ince V Sinclair

Tue Jul 02, 2013 1:31 pm

Barry Chuckle wrote:
BigBadG wrote:
For the best? Not really every1 would have loved to win that cup


I like how you've chosen to ignore most of my post. I said myself it would have been amazing to win the cup. Would we have gained promotion this season with the added fixtures etc? Would have been harder.. So yes, overall - it was for the best IN MY OPINION. :thumbright:


The way me and most of the boys felt that day it certaintly wasnt for the best that day, but of course it would probably of damaged our promotion but who knows.

Re: Ince V Sinclair

Tue Jul 02, 2013 1:32 pm

Would of still of loved to won thr cup though even if it is the so called 'Mickey Mouse' cup

Re: Ince V Sinclair

Tue Jul 02, 2013 1:43 pm

BigBadG wrote:
Barry Chuckle wrote:
BigBadG wrote:
For the best? Not really every1 would have loved to win that cup


I like how you've chosen to ignore most of my post. I said myself it would have been amazing to win the cup. Would we have gained promotion this season with the added fixtures etc? Would have been harder.. So yes, overall - it was for the best IN MY OPINION. :thumbright:


The way me and most of the boys felt that day it certaintly wasnt for the best that day, but of course it would probably of damaged our promotion but who knows.


Yes, I wrote that in my posts.. But looking back on it now, with the benefit of hindsight.. I'm quite happy how it worked out. That's the point I was making.

Re: Ince V Sinclair

Tue Jul 02, 2013 1:45 pm

Aaii