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Re: what happens if we spend big?

Tue Jun 25, 2013 7:43 am

Tony Blue Williams wrote:
The_Unwashed wrote:
Tony Blue Williams wrote:
The_Unwashed wrote:
Parachute payments are to help with the carry over fees from the prem as every player gets their wage increased by the sheer fact they are now prem players, you will still be making a heavy loss with parachute payments. its to help clubs not going bust... not to help them get promoted again. the more you spend the less impact the parachute payments will have.


Well Swansea could well go down this season and indeed are my tip to do so parachute payments should stop you going bust AGAIN. :laughing6:


why would we need parachute payments to stop us going bust? :lol:

we spend 55% of income on wages with a relegation clause written into every players contract with a minimum release clause activated and a pay cut.


Haven't you committed to expanding the Liberty? Plus I wouldn't read too much into that 55% bollocks Laudrups threat to go has seen to that.


Its not bollcks at all, its how we work its how we have always worked and how we will continue to work. Laudrup means naff all to this club, hes off in 12 months anyway. There were a lot of fans, me included who wanted shot of him so we can move on earlier. there is no way huw will spend a penny more than our structure allows us to,

And no we haven't commited to expanding the Liberty.

Re: what happens if we spend big?

Tue Jun 25, 2013 8:13 am

Bluebird 37 wrote:Putting the rebrand aside for now,lets talk football on the pitch.

what happens if we spend big? (answer) if we spend big on quality players we will have every chance of securing our premiership status for next season. This will guarantee us a further 80 million in tb money. If we fail to buy the necessary players to keep us in the division we could go another 4 - 5 years struggling to return to the top flight. So therefore I feel it is right for city to be aggressive in the transfer market. Speculate to accumulate is the way forward and by keeping our premiership status our current crop of championship winning players will see their values sore.


The rebrand is on the pitch

Re: what happens if we spend big?

Tue Jun 25, 2013 8:32 am

Hi Steve ' long time.hope the sqaush has improved or do you still need lessons..haha Martin .and he tells me your the man I the know.. exiting times ahead mate ..rockys good still as lovely as ever .so what's the morning gossip today then or shall I call Martin... So are the club doing anything to increase capacity for this season ....

Re: what happens if we spend big?

Tue Jun 25, 2013 8:34 am

Hi Steve ' long time.hope the sqaush has improved or do you still need lessons..haha Martin .and he tells me your the man I the know.. exiting times ahead mate ..rockys good still as lovely as ever .so what's the morning gossip today then or shall I call Martin... So are the club doing anything to increase capacity for this season ....

Re: what happens if we spend big?

Tue Jun 25, 2013 10:36 am

leebeames123 wrote:Hi Steve ' long time.hope the sqaush has improved or do you still need lessons..haha Martin .and he tells me your the man I the know.. exiting times ahead mate ..rockys good still as lovely as ever .so what's the morning gossip today then or shall I call Martin... So are the club doing anything to increase capacity for this season ....



Hi Lee
stadium corners grandstand side to be filled in prior to start and disabled sections altered but thats it
dont tell martin anything and keep things to myself as im only betraying confidences if i do. Im just happy to see us where we are and wait for the players to come in.
as usual this time of year we are being associated with players just so agents can push them in a different direction for the agents benefit.
asfar as im concerned lee if they havent applied for llandaff girls school its not happening :lol: :lol:

Re: what happens if we spend big?

Tue Jun 25, 2013 10:41 am

We have gone in for players with high resale value, QPR bought players like Granero who they have to sell for peanuts.

Re: what happens if we spend big?

Tue Jun 25, 2013 12:38 pm

Well Steve I was told by Martin that Dirk had booked his two girls into Howell's in llandaff. Only problem with that as terry tells me is that Dirk only has one girl.....on another note I'm still being reliably informed that a certain Mr Graham is head our way.. still whoever we get I'm sure malky will have done his homework on them..I for one just can't wait to see all those world class players gracing our hallowed turf... :ayatollah: :happy1:

Re: what happens if we spend big?

Tue Jun 25, 2013 12:52 pm

Well Steve I was told by Martin that Dirk had booked his two girls into Howell's in llandaff. Only problem with that as terry tells me is that Dirk only has one girl.....on another note I'm still being reliably informed that a certain Mr Graham is head our way.. still whoever we get I'm sure malky will have done his homework on them..I for one just can't wait to see all those world class players gracing our hallowed turf... :ayatollah: :happy1:

Re: what happens if we spend big?

Tue Jun 25, 2013 1:53 pm

The_Unwashed wrote:So spend big and stay up, or not enough and go down..... you seem to have left out the major one there mate.

Spend big and go down. it could potentially kill your club you tool :lol:


Do one you thick swansea c**t

Re: what happens if we spend big?

Tue Jun 25, 2013 1:57 pm

We shit big.

Re: what happens if we spend big?

Tue Jun 25, 2013 2:16 pm

Tony Blue Williams wrote:
The_Unwashed wrote:
Parachute payments are to help with the carry over fees from the prem as every player gets their wage increased by the sheer fact they are now prem players, you will still be making a heavy loss with parachute payments. its to help clubs not going bust... not to help them get promoted again. the more you spend the less impact the parachute payments will have.


Well Swansea could well go down this season and indeed are my tip to do so parachute payments should stop you going bust AGAIN. :laughing6:



Swansea have been everyone's tip to go down for the last 2 years but look how we have done,

Re: what happens if we spend big?

Tue Jun 25, 2013 2:17 pm

Mabonjack wrote:
Tony Blue Williams wrote:
The_Unwashed wrote:
Parachute payments are to help with the carry over fees from the prem as every player gets their wage increased by the sheer fact they are now prem players, you will still be making a heavy loss with parachute payments. its to help clubs not going bust... not to help them get promoted again. the more you spend the less impact the parachute payments will have.


Well Swansea could well go down this season and indeed are my tip to do so parachute payments should stop you going bust AGAIN. :laughing6:



Swansea have been everyone's tip to go down for the last 2 years but look how we have done,


You can't keep dodging that bullet forever though :ayatollah:

Re: what happens if we spend big?

Tue Jun 25, 2013 2:55 pm

Priority 1 has to be clearing historic debt.

If we also stay up great, however if we go down as long as the debt is shot of I will be happy. CCFC has been milked by crooks like Ridsdale for long enough, we need to get our house in order. :ayatollah:

Re: what happens if we spend big?

Tue Jun 25, 2013 6:05 pm

Mabonjack wrote:
Tony Blue Williams wrote:
The_Unwashed wrote:
Parachute payments are to help with the carry over fees from the prem as every player gets their wage increased by the sheer fact they are now prem players, you will still be making a heavy loss with parachute payments. its to help clubs not going bust... not to help them get promoted again. the more you spend the less impact the parachute payments will have.


Well Swansea could well go down this season and indeed are my tip to do so parachute payments should stop you going bust AGAIN. :laughing6:



Swansea have been everyone's tip to go down for the last 2 years but look how we have done,


Swansea remind me so much of Reading when they first went up to the PL. Cruised the first 2 seasons even though they were favourites to go down, thought they were established made plans to expand their stadium and got relegated in the third season.

Re: what happens if we spend big?

Tue Jun 25, 2013 6:11 pm

The_Unwashed wrote:
Tony Blue Williams wrote:
The_Unwashed wrote:
Tony Blue Williams wrote:
The_Unwashed wrote:
Parachute payments are to help with the carry over fees from the prem as every player gets their wage increased by the sheer fact they are now prem players, you will still be making a heavy loss with parachute payments. its to help clubs not going bust... not to help them get promoted again. the more you spend the less impact the parachute payments will have.


Well Swansea could well go down this season and indeed are my tip to do so parachute payments should stop you going bust AGAIN. :laughing6:


why would we need parachute payments to stop us going bust? :lol:

we spend 55% of income on wages with a relegation clause written into every players contract with a minimum release clause activated and a pay cut.


Haven't you committed to expanding the Liberty? Plus I wouldn't read too much into that 55% bollocks Laudrups threat to go has seen to that.


Its not bollcks at all, its how we work its how we have always worked and how we will continue to work. Laudrup means naff all to this club, hes off in 12 months anyway. There were a lot of fans, me included who wanted shot of him so we can move on earlier. there is no way huw will spend a penny more than our structure allows us to,

And no we haven't commited to expanding the Liberty.


Laudrup will be gone alright around February/March having lost to Cardiff for the second time whilst being cemented to the bottom of the PL and wasting £millions in the January window with panic buys.

You have got lucky for the past 4/5 years and its time that was put right :thumbup:

Re: what happens if we spend big?

Tue Jun 25, 2013 6:59 pm

Tony Blue Williams wrote:Laudrup will be gone alright around February/March having lost to Cardiff for the second time whilst being cemented to the bottom of the PL and wasting £millions in the January window with panic buys.

You have got lucky for the past 4/5 years and its time that was put right :thumbup:

your bitterness and resentment of our success is heart warmingly hysterical :lol:

you haven't kicked a ball in the prem yet and are among the favourites to be relegated, I think you should worry about your own survival :thumbup: :wave:

Re: what happens if we spend big?

Tue Jun 25, 2013 7:13 pm

DrBlue wrote:Priority 1 has to be clearing historic debt.

If we also stay up great, however if we go down as long as the debt is shot of I will be happy. CCFC has been milked by crooks like Ridsdale for long enough, we need to get our house in order. :ayatollah:


Only 1 person can clear the debt. that's tan through a debt-equity conversion.

We are too far gone for a year in the Prem to do it.

Even 3 or 4 years of spending next to nothing and we'd still be in the sh1t.

The good news is the debt is virtually all to Tan and SH and not spread out, and Tan can cover it, easily.
The 2nd good news is it seems he wants to build the club up and sell it on, which will mean dealing with the debt in the medium term. if he wanted to asset strip then now would be a good time, get money back for the best players (good value after we just won the title) and £60m coming in irrespective how well we do - sold out stadium etc.. However if hes' investing more then it's only increasing his committment to the club.

The bad news is its not nice relying on 2 mad-men to keep your club alive ! :lol:

Re: what happens if we spend big?

Tue Jun 25, 2013 8:44 pm

The_Unwashed wrote:What a terrifying mentality. :shock:

if it was TAN FC then id take your point, hes a rich man... however its Cardiff City FC and the fact you are spending everything you have plus Tans loans should be screaming 'danger' to you. he can afford it, your club cant clearly hence why they need Tans loans.

Whether Jenkins was a builders merchant or a oil tycoon matters little, we spend what WE make and nothing more.



Yes but is it enough long term????

No you will go down soon then that's the end of it....

Re: what happens if we spend big?

Tue Jun 25, 2013 11:22 pm

Bluebina wrote:
The_Unwashed wrote:What a terrifying mentality. :shock:

if it was TAN FC then id take your point, hes a rich man... however its Cardiff City FC and the fact you are spending everything you have plus Tans loans should be screaming 'danger' to you. he can afford it, your club cant clearly hence why they need Tans loans.

Whether Jenkins was a builders merchant or a oil tycoon matters little, we spend what WE make and nothing more.



Yes but is it enough long term????

No you will go down soon then that's the end of it....

More chance of you going down before us ;)

Re: what happens if we spend big?

Tue Jun 25, 2013 11:28 pm

Tony Blue Williams wrote:
Mabonjack wrote:
Tony Blue Williams wrote:
The_Unwashed wrote:
Parachute payments are to help with the carry over fees from the prem as every player gets their wage increased by the sheer fact they are now prem players, you will still be making a heavy loss with parachute payments. its to help clubs not going bust... not to help them get promoted again. the more you spend the less impact the parachute payments will have.


Well Swansea could well go down this season and indeed are my tip to do so parachute payments should stop you going bust AGAIN. :laughing6:



Swansea have been everyone's tip to go down for the last 2 years but look how we have done,


Swansea remind me so much of Reading when they first went up to the PL. Cruised the first 2 seasons even though they were favourites to go down, thought they were established made plans to expand their stadium and got relegated in the third season.

Not the brightest are you? Reading were relegated in their second season. But apargt from that it's a brilliant bit if comparison work.

Re: what happens if we spend big?

Tue Jun 25, 2013 11:32 pm

T-G-I-ROBINFRIDAY wrote:
ninianblue wrote:it also puts our debt up. some might say :roll:

So what happens with the 140 million we have just secured for winning the Championship ????????????????????????????????????.some might say now that we can afford and need to bring in decent players as we are now in a financial position that is exactly what we should do unless you want us to end up like Derby,Blackpool,Hull .

140 million for finishing 21st in the league structure, wow. We must have won billions for finishing 9th and winning a trophy.

Re: what happens if we spend big?

Wed Jun 26, 2013 8:03 am

I understand what your saying mate but I think we need to be cautious, I would rather spend 10 mil on the right players than spending 25 mil on big names who are wrong for the club. Last thing we need is to be an other QPR :ayatollah: :ayatollah: :ayatollah: :ayatollah: :ayatollah: :ayatollah: :ayatollah:

Re: what happens if we spend big?

Wed Jun 26, 2013 1:29 pm

Buying Ince and wanyama for large sums isn't a risk at all imo! Even if we went down (worst case scenario), the sell on prices wouldn't go down dramatically, we would prob lose around £6m max between the 2 of them! Both good and most importantly young talent! Come on you blues!!!

Re: what happens if we spend big?

Wed Jun 26, 2013 2:39 pm

Llanellicardifffan wrote:Buying Ince and wanyama for large sums isn't a risk at all imo! Even if we went down (worst case scenario), the sell on prices wouldn't go down dramatically, we would prob lose around £6m max between the 2 of them!

its ok to throw away £6million? no wonder your club is in so much debt :lol: