Sun Jun 23, 2013 4:15 pm
CantonJack wrote:Not sure if this has been posted. Saw it on Twitter yesterday
Sun Jun 23, 2013 4:22 pm
Sun Jun 23, 2013 4:31 pm
Sun Jun 23, 2013 4:32 pm
Sun Jun 23, 2013 4:35 pm
RFMH wrote:If that's true, why aren't major online news outles running with it?
Sun Jun 23, 2013 4:36 pm
CraigCCFC wrote:RFMH wrote:If that's true, why aren't major online news outles running with it?
What, like Sky Sports News?
Sun Jun 23, 2013 4:48 pm
RFMH wrote:CraigCCFC wrote:RFMH wrote:If that's true, why aren't major online news outles running with it?
What, like Sky Sports News?
Obviously they've put it out, but they spout various stuff all the time. On about Quincy earlier etc. I'm just saying other sites should be running it too.
Sun Jun 23, 2013 4:51 pm
Super Kev wrote:RFMH wrote:CraigCCFC wrote:RFMH wrote:If that's true, why aren't major online news outles running with it?
What, like Sky Sports News?
Obviously they've put it out, but they spout various stuff all the time. On about Quincy earlier etc. I'm just saying other sites should be running it too.
To be fair Sky haven't said anything on TV about Quincy. I've noticed they only mention transfers which are very likely to happen on TV, like they have with Ince, the did it with Campbell and Maynard too.
Sun Jun 23, 2013 4:53 pm
Sun Jun 23, 2013 4:56 pm
Malky Is My God wrote:cakey-8t7 wrote:scott_w_ccfc wrote:Malky Is My God wrote:Ince > Buckley > Zaha.
That is all.
For me its... Buckley > Ince > Zaha, just.
But either way it's Buckley or Ince > Zaha.
How the hell can you say Buckley is better than ince!?
Ince scores 18 goals last season for a struggling team in Blackpool and Buckley scored 8
Ince is a far better player because he scores goals, he is quality and only gonna get better
Goals aren't everything for a winger you know.
Sun Jun 23, 2013 5:10 pm
Sun Jun 23, 2013 5:13 pm
cakey-8t7 wrote:
The best wingers in the world are the ones that score goals -bale,neymar,messi,ronaldo,walcott, all play wide inside forward roles which ince would suit lovely cos he is a cracking finisher, GOALS WIN GAMES
Sun Jun 23, 2013 6:37 pm
Malky Is My God wrote:cakey-8t7 wrote:
The best wingers in the world are the ones that score goals -bale,neymar,messi,ronaldo,walcott, all play wide inside forward roles which ince would suit lovely cos he is a cracking finisher, GOALS WIN GAMES
They're the best because they score goals. You think we can bring in a world class winger who can not only do the dirty work but score loads and assist loads at this level? You are deluded sunshine. Scott Sinclair scored 8 in 38 for Swansea. That or around that is the level we can expect at most for a club of our size. The primary task of a winger is to create, create and create for a striker to score. Yes it helps for a winger to score but there are other wingers, like Antonio Valencia, who just do the hard work, the dog work, cover the defender and cross loads of balls in.
Goals aren't everything. No point having a goal scoring winger if he goes missing and refuses to cover the defence and leaves your full back vulnerable. We've had plenty of these type of wingers down the years and its got us nowhere. Malky suddenly brings in workhorses and we go up. Speaks volumes.
Valencia > Nani - Valencia scores less goals.
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Sun Jun 23, 2013 6:44 pm
Sun Jun 23, 2013 6:54 pm
Sun Jun 23, 2013 6:55 pm
wez1927 wrote:sky sports news transfer centre on about ince 1.30min in
Sun Jun 23, 2013 7:00 pm
Sun Jun 23, 2013 7:13 pm
Nuclearblue wrote:When we played Blackpool last season away we was telling Ince he was shit just like his Father![]()
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Was that a tad harsh ? And did we mean it ?
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Sun Jun 23, 2013 7:16 pm
The Casual wrote:Nuclearblue wrote:When we played Blackpool last season away we was telling Ince he was shit just like his Father![]()
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Was that a tad harsh ? And did we mean it ?
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Heard a few ex pros saying they take the chants from oppo fans as a compliment. As Ian Wright once said they try and put off the best players in the team to try and gain an advantage.
Tend to agree except in the case of Roger Freestone who really was 22 stone and a fat b*stard.
Sun Jun 23, 2013 7:42 pm
BigBadG wrote:
What the fuc is this guy smokin, ince is a quality player with potential, if he can be anywhere near as good as his dad cardiff have hit the jackpot. He will work hard for the team and at 21 he will onlu get better, if cardiff get 8-10 goals from him hapi days which is highly likely
Sun Jun 23, 2013 7:45 pm
Sun Jun 23, 2013 7:56 pm
Sun Jun 23, 2013 7:58 pm
Sun Jun 23, 2013 8:10 pm
blue lagoon wrote:some of the comments on here confirm the fact that some fans know sweet ........... about football. just stick to collecting match attack cards. furthetmore, the abuse he gets is from small minded idiots.
Sun Jun 23, 2013 8:19 pm
Super Kev wrote:I know who I'd want playing for CCFC... INCE.![]()
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Ince -
44 games
18 goals
14 assists
Zaha -
43 games
6 goals
10 assists
Buckley -
36 games
8 goals
8 assists
Sun Jun 23, 2013 8:19 pm
Malky Is My God wrote:cakey-8t7 wrote:
The best wingers in the world are the ones that score goals -bale,neymar,messi,ronaldo,walcott, all play wide inside forward roles which ince would suit lovely cos he is a cracking finisher, GOALS WIN GAMES
They're the best because they score goals. You think we can bring in a world class winger who can not only do the dirty work but score loads and assist loads at this level? You are deluded sunshine. Scott Sinclair scored 8 in 38 for Swansea. That or around that is the level we can expect at most for a club of our size. The primary task of a winger is to create, create and create for a striker to score. Yes it helps for a winger to score but there are other wingers, like Antonio Valencia, who just do the hard work, the dog work, cover the defender and cross loads of balls in.
Goals aren't everything. No point having a goal scoring winger if he goes missing and refuses to cover the defence and leaves your full back vulnerable. We've had plenty of these type of wingers down the years and its got us nowhere. Malky suddenly brings in workhorses and we go up. Speaks volumes.
Valencia > Nani - Valencia scores less goals.
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Sun Jun 23, 2013 8:23 pm
Malky Is My God wrote:BigBadG wrote:
What the fuc is this guy smokin, ince is a quality player with potential, if he can be anywhere near as good as his dad cardiff have hit the jackpot. He will work hard for the team and at 21 he will onlu get better, if cardiff get 8-10 goals from him hapi days which is highly likely
Where did I say any different? All I said was goals aren't everything for a winger. Its true. Valencia scores less than Nani but is a better player. His teamwork, assist ratio and defensive minded cover all aid the team overall.
Therefore I can understand on that basis why some people have Buckley ahead of Ince now. I prefer Ince but each to their own.
Sun Jun 23, 2013 8:40 pm
cakey-8t7 wrote:Malky Is My God wrote:cakey-8t7 wrote:
The best wingers in the world are the ones that score goals -bale,neymar,messi,ronaldo,walcott, all play wide inside forward roles which ince would suit lovely cos he is a cracking finisher, GOALS WIN GAMES
They're the best because they score goals. You think we can bring in a world class winger who can not only do the dirty work but score loads and assist loads at this level? You are deluded sunshine. Scott Sinclair scored 8 in 38 for Swansea. That or around that is the level we can expect at most for a club of our size. The primary task of a winger is to create, create and create for a striker to score. Yes it helps for a winger to score but there are other wingers, like Antonio Valencia, who just do the hard work, the dog work, cover the defender and cross loads of balls in.
Goals aren't everything. No point having a goal scoring winger if he goes missing and refuses to cover the defence and leaves your full back vulnerable. We've had plenty of these type of wingers down the years and its got us nowhere. Malky suddenly brings in workhorses and we go up. Speaks volumes.
Valencia > Nani - Valencia scores less goals.
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What the f**k are you babbling on about you fool, bale plays a wide role or inside forward roll and scores lots of goals and his goals is what makes him the player he is , if it weren't for his goals he wouldn't be thought as one of the best players in the world!
Antonio Valencia is a standard winger but he would be a much better player if he had a better GOAL return.
I know your gonna come back and spout a load of shit now cos your a big I am geek but fact is if a player has a good goal scoring record which ince has better than Buckley , and bale has better than Valencia then they are thought of as better players. And just cos they score goals dosent mean they don't work for the team aswell and track back etc so your just talking out of your arse sunshine
Sun Jun 23, 2013 8:56 pm
scott_w_ccfc wrote:cakey-8t7 wrote:Malky Is My God wrote:cakey-8t7 wrote:
The best wingers in the world are the ones that score goals -bale,neymar,messi,ronaldo,walcott, all play wide inside forward roles which ince would suit lovely cos he is a cracking finisher, GOALS WIN GAMES
They're the best because they score goals. You think we can bring in a world class winger who can not only do the dirty work but score loads and assist loads at this level? You are deluded sunshine. Scott Sinclair scored 8 in 38 for Swansea. That or around that is the level we can expect at most for a club of our size. The primary task of a winger is to create, create and create for a striker to score. Yes it helps for a winger to score but there are other wingers, like Antonio Valencia, who just do the hard work, the dog work, cover the defender and cross loads of balls in.
Goals aren't everything. No point having a goal scoring winger if he goes missing and refuses to cover the defence and leaves your full back vulnerable. We've had plenty of these type of wingers down the years and its got us nowhere. Malky suddenly brings in workhorses and we go up. Speaks volumes.
Yeh a wingers job is to create and score goals so what would you say is better?
Valencia > Nani - Valencia scores less goals.
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What the f**k are you babbling on about you fool, bale plays a wide role or inside forward roll and scores lots of goals and his goals is what makes him the player he is , if it weren't for his goals he wouldn't be thought as one of the best players in the world!
Antonio Valencia is a standard winger but he would be a much better player if he had a better GOAL return.
I know your gonna come back and spout a load of shit now cos your a big I am geek but fact is if a player has a good goal scoring record which ince has better than Buckley , and bale has better than Valencia then they are thought of as better players. And just cos they score goals dosent mean they don't work for the team aswell and track back etc so your just talking out of your arse sunshine
Jesus Navas didn't score a single goal for Sevilla last season and Man City have just paid a hell of a lot of money for him.
On the other hand, wing-forwards such as Hal Robson Kanu, Jason Puncheon, Wayne Routledge and others scored a certain number of goals in the Premier League last season but does that make them better players?
If you think Ince is better fair enough, i really like Ince too, i just think Buckley is better still. No matter who we think is better the point is that the winger that scores goals doesn't necessarily automatically become a better player. There is far more to a winger's job than scoring goals.
Sun Jun 23, 2013 9:04 pm
cakey-8t7 wrote:scott_w_ccfc wrote:cakey-8t7 wrote:Malky Is My God wrote:cakey-8t7 wrote:
The best wingers in the world are the ones that score goals -bale,neymar,messi,ronaldo,walcott, all play wide inside forward roles which ince would suit lovely cos he is a cracking finisher, GOALS WIN GAMES
They're the best because they score goals. You think we can bring in a world class winger who can not only do the dirty work but score loads and assist loads at this level? You are deluded sunshine. Scott Sinclair scored 8 in 38 for Swansea. That or around that is the level we can expect at most for a club of our size. The primary task of a winger is to create, create and create for a striker to score. Yes it helps for a winger to score but there are other wingers, like Antonio Valencia, who just do the hard work, the dog work, cover the defender and cross loads of balls in.
Goals aren't everything. No point having a goal scoring winger if he goes missing and refuses to cover the defence and leaves your full back vulnerable. We've had plenty of these type of wingers down the years and its got us nowhere. Malky suddenly brings in workhorses and we go up. Speaks volumes.
Yeh a wingers job is to create and score goals so what would you say is better?
Valencia > Nani - Valencia scores less goals.
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What the f**k are you babbling on about you fool, bale plays a wide role or inside forward roll and scores lots of goals and his goals is what makes him the player he is , if it weren't for his goals he wouldn't be thought as one of the best players in the world!
Antonio Valencia is a standard winger but he would be a much better player if he had a better GOAL return.
I know your gonna come back and spout a load of shit now cos your a big I am geek but fact is if a player has a good goal scoring record which ince has better than Buckley , and bale has better than Valencia then they are thought of as better players. And just cos they score goals dosent mean they don't work for the team aswell and track back etc so your just talking out of your arse sunshine
Jesus Navas didn't score a single goal for Sevilla last season and Man City have just paid a hell of a lot of money for him.
On the other hand, wing-forwards such as Hal Robson Kanu, Jason Puncheon, Wayne Routledge and others scored a certain number of goals in the Premier League last season but does that make them better players?
If you think Ince is better fair enough, i really like Ince too, i just think Buckley is better still. No matter who we think is better the point is that the winger that scores goals doesn't necessarily automatically become a better player. There is far more to a winger's job than scoring goals.
In your team would you rather a winger that creates, or a winger than creates and scores goals,
If they score goals it's much better for the team obviously.
If your using Routledge as an example then dyer scores more goals and is a better finisher than Routledge therefore I'd say is a more valuable player for the team and I bet the jacks would agree with that. Ince scored more goals and had more assists last season than Buckley, stats don't lie so how you say Buckley is a better player is madness really.