Has swansea's recent success contributed

Without a doubt it did. 100%.

Just glance at the archives of this and other cardiff city forums. The moment Swansea got to the big league, discontent amongst Cardiff fans reached a new high. Cardiff fans from that point on HAD to be in the premier league.

People have said before that if a rich businessman tried to make Everton play in red or Liverpool in blue then it just wouldn't be allowed to happen. The majority of Cardiff fans were not that bothered about the rebrand and those that did care were quickly mellowed by the promise of premier league football. what happened to all those 'i wont go again' fans. Still attending aye?

Like your chairman says, maybe a small number might leave but the majority are just happy for success.... I even heard this classic more than a few times: "i'd play in pink if it got us to the premier league".

cardiff sold out and anyone who denies that is lying. Jealousy of Swansea was a factor in that.

Give us a link to the archives...Show me where we had to take red because of little old Swansea.

Nobody says you had to take red. There was relatively little opposition to your rebranding though and a big part of that was to keep up with your rivals. The moment Swansea suceeded in doing something you had never done before, CCFC changed forever. You even sacked Dave Jones the very same day we got promoted ffs...says it all. From that point on it was success at any cost and anything the Malaysians wanted would be accepted. sad but true.

You think too much of yourselves.

It had nothing to do with the rebrand itself imo. But had everything to do with them accepting it so easily.

We didn't/haven't all accepted it!

Without a doubt it did. 100%.

Just glance at the archives of this and other cardiff city forums. The moment Swansea got to the big league, discontent amongst Cardiff fans reached a new high. Cardiff fans from that point on HAD to be in the premier league.

People have said before that if a rich businessman tried to make Everton play in red or Liverpool in blue then it just wouldn't be allowed to happen. The majority of Cardiff fans were not that bothered about the rebrand and those that did care were quickly mellowed by the promise of premier league football. what happened to all those 'i wont go again' fans. Still attending aye?

Like your chairman says, maybe a small number might leave but the majority are just happy for success.... I even heard this classic more than a few times: "i'd play in pink if it got us to the premier league".

cardiff sold out and anyone who denies that is lying. Jealousy of Swansea was a factor in that.

Give us a link to the archives...Show me where we had to take red because of little old Swansea.

Nobody says you had to take red. There was relatively little opposition to your rebranding though and a big part of that was to keep up with your rivals. The moment Swansea suceeded in doing something you had never done before, CCFC changed forever. You even sacked Dave Jones the very same day we got promoted ffs...says it all. From that point on it was success at any cost and anything the Malaysians wanted would be accepted. sad but true.

Dave jones was sacked a couple of weeks after you got promoted. Another bright spark here.

Without a doubt it did. 100%.

Just glance at the archives of this and other cardiff city forums. The moment Swansea got to the big league, discontent amongst Cardiff fans reached a new high. Cardiff fans from that point on HAD to be in the premier league.

People have said before that if a rich businessman tried to make Everton play in red or Liverpool in blue then it just wouldn't be allowed to happen. The majority of Cardiff fans were not that bothered about the rebrand and those that did care were quickly mellowed by the promise of premier league football. what happened to all those 'i wont go again' fans. Still attending aye?

Like your chairman says, maybe a small number might leave but the majority are just happy for success.... I even heard this classic more than a few times: "i'd play in pink if it got us to the premier league".

cardiff sold out and anyone who denies that is lying. Jealousy of Swansea was a factor in that.

Give us a link to the archives...Show me where we had to take red because of little old Swansea.

Nobody says you had to take red. There was relatively little opposition to your rebranding though and a big part of that was to keep up with your rivals. The moment Swansea suceeded in doing something you had never done before, CCFC changed forever. You even sacked Dave Jones the very same day we got promoted ffs...says it all. From that point on it was success at any cost and anything the Malaysians wanted would be accepted. sad but true.

Dave jones was sacked a couple of weeks after you got promoted. Another bright spark here.

It's just a WUM Murph.

Hopefully Lakey or Gav will push the button soon enough.

I hope there stadium falls down on the inbred bastards the first game of the season.

I hate Swansea more than most but this is a decent point and no need for the childish responses.

Yes Jack, I believe that the fact you made the Prem meant that a large majority of our fans sold out for success, they couldn't take being below you. I for one was mightily p.issed off but wouldn't have flushed my own clubs history and identity down the drain because of it.

I think our perilous finances was the biggest factor in fans acceptance.

The main factor for the rebrand was VT's desire to market us in Asia.

Without a doubt it did. 100%.

Just glance at the archives of this and other cardiff city forums. The moment Swansea got to the big league, discontent amongst Cardiff fans reached a new high. Cardiff fans from that point on HAD to be in the premier league.

People have said before that if a rich businessman tried to make Everton play in red or Liverpool in blue then it just wouldn't be allowed to happen. The majority of Cardiff fans were not that bothered about the rebrand and those that did care were quickly mellowed by the promise of premier league football. what happened to all those 'i wont go again' fans. Still attending aye?

Like your chairman says, maybe a small number might leave but the majority are just happy for success.... I even heard this classic more than a few times: "i'd play in pink if it got us to the premier league".

cardiff sold out and anyone who denies that is lying. Jealousy of Swansea was a factor in that.

Give us a link to the archives...Show me where we had to take red because of little old Swansea.

Nobody says you had to take red. There was relatively little opposition to your rebranding though and a big part of that was to keep up with your rivals. The moment Swansea suceeded in doing something you had never done before, CCFC changed forever. You even sacked Dave Jones the very same day we got promoted ffs...says it all. From that point on it was success at any cost and anything the Malaysians wanted would be accepted. sad but true.

Dave jones was sacked a couple of weeks after you got promoted. Another bright spark here.

He was sacked on the day of our play off final win. I was stood outside The Globe opposite Baker St tube station enjoying a pre match pint or 2 when the news came through.

Bright spark indeed

Jones was definitely sacked the morning of the Jacks playoff final.

I hate Swansea more than most but this is a decent point and no need for the childish responses.

Yes Jack, I believe that the fact you made the Prem meant that a large majority of our fans sold out for success, they couldn't take being below you. I for one was mightily p.issed off but wouldn't have flushed my own clubs history and identity down the drain because of it.

This is totally right for me too.

Dave jones was sacked a couple of weeks after you got promoted. Another bright spark here.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/13594051
http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/13497817

Good fishing here for the Jacks.

Dave jones was sacked a couple of weeks after you got promoted. Another bright spark here.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/13594051
http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/13497817

Well there you are then. Jones was sacked in the morning, you won promotion around 4.50pm, so your promotion had f**k all to do with his sacking as it had'nt happened. Idiot

Jones was sacked on the morning of the play offs as to soften the blow of our impending promotion.It really was that.

There's another example of you doing this recently.It could have been on the day of the Carling Cup final.Tan promising you 50 million i think it was.

Jones was sacked on the morning of the play offs as to soften the blow of our impending promotion.It really was that.

There's another example of you doing this recently.It could have been on the day of the Carling Cup final.Tan promising you 50 million i think it was.

Yep.

Seems some Cardiff fans can admit the impact Swansea's success has had on their club while others can't.

Jones was sacked on the morning of the play offs as to soften the blow of our impending promotion.It really was that.

There's another example of you doing this recently.It could have been on the day of the Carling Cup final.Tan promising you 50 million i think it was.

Yep.

Seems some Cardiff fans can admit the impact Swansea's success has had on their club while others can't.

A handful on a forum compared to the tens of thousands who couldn't give a f**k about you, as long as their football club is safe you mean?

Fantastical delusions on this thread fair play

wan*er dip sh*t, 6 toed inbred bellen*s from down the M4

self obsessed idiots

WE'RE CARDIFF CITY!

we bow down to No One!

Jones was sacked on the morning of the play offs as to soften the blow of our impending promotion.It really was that.

There's another example of you doing this recently.It could have been on the day of the Carling Cup final.Tan promising you 50 million i think it was.

Yeah right Your starting to sound as stupid as your mate Paul.

In a way to your re-brand, what i mean is did seeing swansea playing in the premier league mean cardiff had to get there no matter the cost, in terms of finance and possible losing history(blue shirts)

Speaking personally the answer is no. The overriding reason why I have signed up to the reluctant red camp is our 3 (or was it 4) appearances in the winding up court in 2009/10.

We came very very close to not just losing our history, identity and blue shirts but everything else including league status, name and stadium due to the excesses of Sam Hammam and more to the point Peter Ridsdale.

Something radical had to be done to stem the flow. I don't have a spare £100m but Vincent Tan does and he has offered it to us in exchange for rebranding to red.

We had to take it to become debt free.

Aw, bless the jacks' little cotton socks,they really think we care that much about them,cute really.

Yes i feel that is why so many had rolled over and excepted it IMO

In a way to your re-brand, what i mean is did seeing swansea playing in the premier league mean cardiff had to get there no matter the cost, in terms of finance and possible losing history(blue shirts)

Speaking personally the answer is no. The overriding reason why I have signed up to the reluctant red camp is our 3 (or was it 4) appearances in the winding up court in 2009/10.

We came very very close to not just losing our history, identity and blue shirts but everything else including league status, name and stadium due to the excesses of Sam Hammam and more to the point Peter Ridsdale.

Something radical had to be done to stem the flow. I don't have a spare £100m but Vincent Tan does and he has offered it to us in exchange for rebranding to red.

We had to take it to become debt free.

How did the whole debt free thing turn out after?

In a way to your re-brand, what i mean is did seeing swansea playing in the premier league mean cardiff had to get there no matter the cost, in terms of finance and possible losing history(blue shirts)

Speaking personally the answer is no. The overriding reason why I have signed up to the reluctant red camp is our 3 (or was it 4) appearances in the winding up court in 2009/10.

We came very very close to not just losing our history, identity and blue shirts but everything else including league status, name and stadium due to the excesses of Sam Hammam and more to the point Peter Ridsdale.

Something radical had to be done to stem the flow. I don't have a spare £100m but Vincent Tan does and he has offered it to us in exchange for rebranding to red.

We had to take it to become debt free.

How did the whole debt free thing turn out after?

Like you dont know whats going on. Your on a Cardiff forum every day.

In a way to your re-brand, what i mean is did seeing swansea playing in the premier league mean cardiff had to get there no matter the cost, in terms of finance and possible losing history(blue shirts)

Speaking personally the answer is no. The overriding reason why I have signed up to the reluctant red camp is our 3 (or was it 4) appearances in the winding up court in 2009/10.

We came very very close to not just losing our history, identity and blue shirts but everything else including league status, name and stadium due to the excesses of Sam Hammam and more to the point Peter Ridsdale.

Something radical had to be done to stem the flow. I don't have a spare £100m but Vincent Tan does and he has offered it to us in exchange for rebranding to red.

We had to take it to become debt free.

How did the whole debt free thing turn out after?

Like you dont know whats going on. Your on a Cardiff forum every day.

We'll have to wait and see, it's not like when you go back to cash generator for the 15 quid back on your fishing rods jack,
we are talking about millions of pounds here and people may take time.