Steve Borleys comments on Bluebirds Unite

My respect for Steve Borley has just taken a nose dive after reading those pathetic comments about BU. To then threaten the travel group with the "Tickets Drying Up" is just pure desperation.

Apart from that I don't know what else to say, speechless!

Right, been simmering for a while now, but this is the best i can come up with peacfully
Dr Mr Borley
It's me again.I do believe I may be be one of the people you believe should have been airbrushed out of the pics, however if I may pick up on Archie's point earlier, I'd like you to see a couple of pics I took this Championship winning season with my 9yr old son Santino Gee and my Neice Bailey Bailey (be sure to check out her interview on Newyddion S4C Tuesday 11-06-13, links available @bluebirds unite). I think you will recognize the seating area we are in and I would like to thank the club for all the complimentary tickets I received from the club as due to the fact I am now only in receipt of Disability benefits I can no longer afford season tickets, please come and join us, come and join us, we are we are one. could some one post his direct to him as i don't know how lol

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I was at the meeting at it was a nice friendly atmosphere! No different from when I go to a home or away match! I go to a pub before each game, that's what 80% football fans do, how the hell was the meeting any different?
You sell alcohol at every match? It has nothing to do with anything! Your just told what to say! To scared to have an opinion! You should be advising Tan on football matters as he clearly hasn't got a clue! He may be a successful businessman but we won't be a successful team with all this nonsense going on behind the scenes!

BU doing a top job on trying to get our colours back.
Some who are ok with red seem to be trying to get under the skin of fans that want Blue back, which seems bizzare. Maybe some should turn up and give their opinions on the day.
See both sides of the fence

Bluebirds

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Barley is spot on



FAO Steve Borley
by arri potta » Thu Jun 13, 2013 6:12 pm

You have ashort memory my friend. You said: Annis, the image of of the cause diminishes every time you make that gaff, and that is a small one compared to being associated and photographed with known people with banning orders and every event is associated with drinking. You don't see shareholders in an AGM with cans and pints .

Without going into too much detail, one should remember ones own employees and their behaviour at Stoke, and the mini bus of city stewards in front of our coach leaving Sheffield Utd - the year of the dust up with police with many injuries.

Our caoch was the very last to leave, some 30 minutes after everyone was released from the stadia hospital area - and 2 mile up the road your own steards throwing cans of lager out of the windows at SU fans!!!

Think before you speak, we've all got good memories!

Very disappointed with Mr Borley's comments regarding Bluebirds unite.

the organisation is all about respecting our history and voicing the opinions of the majority of Cardiff fans in a peaceful manner whilst Mr Borley is lining his pockets while our club is being made a national laughing stock.

Superb.

Its evident to me where Mr Borleys loyalties lay , and it aint with us fans... he aint gonna go against his own interests.. Hand in Hand with the management of the club in my view

I am actually heartened by Mr Borley's outburst.

When someone resorts to trying to discredit something, it usually means they are worried about it. Don't let's get side tracked responding to cheap shots, but simply keep the peaceful, dignified campaign on track.

WE WILL ALWAYS BE BLUE!

To be fair BU does not represent most Cardiff fans, not even half.

Steve Borley is right what he's saying and he sounds concerned the same as a lot of fans I expect!
He believes and so do I that bluebirds unite could send cardiff city on a slide of oblivion like he says, marches and protests at high profile games are ridiculous imo and will really test Vincent tans patience.

Steve Borley is right what he's saying and he sounds concerned the same as a lot of fans I expect!
He believes and so do I that bluebirds unite could send cardiff city on a slide of oblivion like he says, marches and protests at high profile games are ridiculous imo and will really test Vincent tans patience.

It looks to me Steve Borley is only concerned about his own interests.

To be fair BU does not represent most Cardiff fans, not even half.

We will see. Most Cardiff fans have been waiting for something like BU to happen.

To be fair BU does not represent most Cardiff fans, not even half.

We will see. Most Cardiff fans have been waiting for something like BU to happen.

Id love to see what all the fans would say aswell if Vincent tan come out with a statement saying he would leave the club if he turned the kit to blue again that's the reality of the situation and I bet majority would stick with tan and not the blue, well that has already happened a season ago now hasn't it, everyone shit themselves when tan said he was gonna leave

To be fair BU does not represent most Cardiff fans, not even half.

We will see. Most Cardiff fans have been waiting for something like BU to happen.

Id love to see what all the fans would say aswell if Vincent tan come out with a statement saying he would leave the club if he turned the kit to blue again that's the reality of the situation and I bet majority would stick with tan and not the blue, well that has already happened a season ago now hasn't it, everyone shit themselves when tan said he was gonna leave

Yes there was quite a bit of scaremongering going on. Tan really bluffed some.

Actually if Tan did decide to go, I very much doubt it, then due to the premier money I bet you will be surprised how many thatwanted him to stay last season will not be bothered now if he goes. Tan has pay rolled us to the premier that that is what all these wanted. In my world its called back stabbing.

I am actually heartened by Mr Borley's outburst.

When someone resorts to trying to discredit something, it usually means they are worried about it. Don't let's get side tracked responding to cheap shots, but simply keep the peaceful, dignified campaign on track.

WE WILL ALWAYS BE BLUE!

bang on the money...

Path to oblivion says Borley - we're already there mate - a plastic ground of lego and a team playing in someone else's kit.

What an achievement.

First off, let me start off by paying tribute to the hard work,time and money that Steve Borley has put into the football club over the years.

However,in the past 24 hours,Steve has gone out of his way to ridicule and discredit an organisation,who's only goal is to see Cardiff City's traditional identity restored through entirely peaceful means.

In two posts on another thread,Borley has made the following 'contributions:'


Borley wrote, "We're not against modern football yet were pictured with a banner with that statement, we won't harm the club but we are organising a march on a high profile game, we want recognition but we are are against the club. And then you wonder why majority of fans suspect your intensions."

and a little bit later on,he added the following:

"Annis, the image of of the cause diminishes every time you make that gaff, and that is a small one compared to being associated and photographed with known people with banning orders and every event is associated with drinking. You don't see shareholders in an AGM with cans and pints . I noticed the guy in the front had his pint photoshopped out, could have done the same with a few faces.
In terms of protests they are rarely peaceful because they will get hijacked by people wanting to make a name for themselves and stating the obvious if you are seen to be transporting people to away games to cause trouble don't surprised if the ticket supply drys up. Wearing blue to games is not a problem and makes your case without harming the club which is my primary concern.
VT has stated his plan and backed it with his cash and I don't see him changing. Without his support we would not even have a chance to survive in the PL, remember Swansea had to sell 2 players and a manager for 25 mill to post a profit, we have enormous costs this close season to upgrade the facilities and hopefully pay off your mate, before we even look at the playing budget.
We have come too far to see this club slide back which some want to promote, but once you get on that slide it difficult to get off on the path to oblivion."

Let's first have a look at his comments about the 'Against Modern Football' banner that found its way into the pic on Tuesday evening; his comments smack of desperation to find some tiny way of discrediting BU,particularly when one remembers that almost immediately,a statement was issued by Bluebirds Unite distancing themselves from such banners.

Let's then consider some of his other proclamations in the same first post,that BU are in some way "against" the club. What is he prattling on about? Sure,BU are against the rebrand. Ideally,I think the vast majority of City fans want to see our home colours restored but "against the club..." Behave yourself,do you really think that 600 long standing City fans would get off their collective backsides on a 'school night' to discuss ways of peacefully putting pressure on Tan to get our identity back,if they were "against the club!!" To be honest it's laughable but insulting at the same time.

He then goes on to make a sweeping statement that the majority of fans suspect BU's intentions. Where is the evidence for this? Are the majority of fans really suspicious of BU? An organisation who's stated aim is to see our home identity restored through entirely peaceful means!

In his second post, he makes reference to fans with banning orders supporting BU. Now,I'm fervently against violence of any kind and I've very glad to see the back of the hooligan days that blighted our club but let's not kid ourselves here,there are lads who attended CCS, week in,week out last season who had served banning orders and indeed custodial sentences for football related violence. Does that mean that Cardiff City FC is a club that embraces violence and thuggery? Of course not.

Borleys attempts to link BU with a small handful of supporters who have a 'past,' is yet another grubby attempt to discredit the group.Likewise,Borleys pathetic attempt to link the organisation with excessive alcohol consumption. A cheap shot from a desperate man.A desperate man,who,incidentally is looking to refurbish and develop a pub in the east of the city...

You couldn't make it up.

In terms of his comments on protests rarely being trouble free,yet another sweeping statement.Don't get me wrong,I think it is very very important that every protest is peaceful and respectful but Borleys assumption is frankly patronising and pretty disrespectful to the clubs supporters. As for harming the club? Well,I'll treat that comment with the contempt it deserves.

His comments in the final paragraphs read: "VT has stated his plan and backed it with his cash and I don't see him changing. Without his support we would not even have a chance to survive in the PL, remember Swansea had to sell 2 players and a manager for 25 mill to post a profit, we have enormous costs this close season to upgrade the facilities and hopefully pay off your mate, before we even look at the playing budget.
We have come too far to see this club slide back which some want to promote, but once you get on that slide it difficult to get off on the path to oblivion."

VT has indeed backed his plans with cash,unfortunately to date,that cash has just added to the clubs record debt burden,accrued under Tans reign. If any Cardiff City fan is serious about wanting to see CCFC run sustainably and as a viable concern for future generations,then I would say our best hope is to see the clubs spend minimal amounts over the summer,only spend what we can afford and certainly not attempt to emulate QPR. Frankly,I am far more concerned with the club still being around for decades to come. If Tan fails to convert any or only minimal debt to equity and instead spunks £30m plus on a huge gamble to stay up,exactly where will that leave the clubs long term future?

To conclude,Borleys latest rants against a peaceful organisation are unpleasant,disrespectful and totally unnecessary.

Ultimately, peole will make their own minds up but,personally,having read and dissected his comments,I find them rather sad and pretty desperate.[/quote]




My opinion is that Steve Borley is spot on.

I believe certain fans are attempting to jump on the band wagon........always attempting to make a name of themselves.

"VAST" majority are not going along with BU. no matter how many likes you get on facebook.

Enjoy your cans.

To be fair BU does not represent most Cardiff fans, not even half.

What a ridiculous statement, I don't think you know even know what BU represents do you? Put it to words and see if you're right

Its evident to me where Mr Borleys loyalties lay , and it aint with us fans... he aint gonna go against his own interests.. Hand in Hand with the management of the club in my view

Of course his loyalties are with the club. As are mine.......I support the club not fans.

Its evident to me where Mr Borleys loyalties lay , and it aint with us fans... he aint gonna go against his own interests.. Hand in Hand with the management of the club in my view

Of course his loyalties are with the club. As are mine.......I support the club not fans.

Fans ARE the club.

Its evident to me where Mr Borleys loyalties lay , and it aint with us fans... he aint gonna go against his own interests.. Hand in Hand with the management of the club in my view

Of course his loyalties are with the club. As are mine.......I support the club not fans.

Fans ARE the club.

In my opinion they aren't.

I don't put fans before the manager, players or the people who actually keep this club financially afloat. I might not agree with them all the time.

If the fans are the most important then I'll listen to the majority of them.....which isn't BU.

Are Cardiff City themselves promoting violence? people who have been in jail and have served banning orders are going through
the turnstiles every week. pull yer head out yer arse borley. the scariest bit about all this is that borley himself is obviously scared of something has tan had words in that boardroom to the effect that if people protest against anything he does he will pull the plug? red or blue who would want a dictator like that at the helm

Are Cardiff City themselves promoting violence? people who have been in jail and have served banning orders are going through
the turnstiles every week. pull yer head out yer arse borley. the scariest bit about all this is that borley himself is obviously scared of something has tan had words in that boardroom to the effect that if people protest against anything he does he will pull the plug? red or blue who would want a dictator like that at the helm

Banning orders on people who have "paid" the price. They were given banning orders not life time bans.

Do you think all fans who have been involved in violence (prosecuted or not) should be banned and not allowed to meet club officials?

Are Cardiff City themselves promoting violence? people who have been in jail and have served banning orders are going through
the turnstiles every week. pull yer head out yer arse borley. the scariest bit about all this is that borley himself is obviously scared of something has tan had words in that boardroom to the effect that if people protest against anything he does he will pull the plug? red or blue who would want a dictator like that at the helm

Banning orders on people who have "paid" the price. They were given banning orders not life time bans.

Do you think all fans who have been involved in violence (prosecuted or not) should be banned and not allowed to meet club officials?

Thats my point. If Cardiff City FC let ex bannd convictd lads in wen they served they sentence then Borley has no right to turn round pointing fingers at fans in the BU meetings. he makes a cock of himself

Path to oblivion says Borley - we're already there mate - a plastic ground of lego and a team playing in someone else's kit.

What an achievement.

You won't be there I take it?

Are Cardiff City themselves promoting violence? people who have been in jail and have served banning orders are going through
the turnstiles every week. pull yer head out yer arse borley. the scariest bit about all this is that borley himself is obviously scared of something has tan had words in that boardroom to the effect that if people protest against anything he does he will pull the plug? red or blue who would want a dictator like that at the helm

Banning orders on people who have "paid" the price. They were given banning orders not life time bans.

Do you think all fans who have been involved in violence (prosecuted or not) should be banned and not allowed to meet club officials?

Thats my point. If Cardiff City FC let ex bannd convictd lads in wen they served they sentence then Borley has no right to turn round pointing fingers at fans in the BU meetings. he makes a cock of himself

I agree that some of the comments were wholly inappropriate, specifically those that referred to 'certain peoples past' but has anyone stopped to consider that Steve's outburst might just have been made out of pure frustration?

Steve is in a 'no-win' situation as a TRUE (and surely no-one seriously doubts that? ) Cardiff City fan and as a Board Member

He is often used as a convenient 'sounding board' by people frustrated themselves at having no direct access to Vincent Tan and some of the unwarranted comments (and occasional abuse) aimed at him say far more about the person making them than they do about Steve Borley the man

Of course Steve has a dual interest at Cardiff City Football Club. Heck, if it wasn't for someone as loyal and as 'die-hard' a fan (with some financial clout compared to most of us ) we may have been in the trouble we were not so long ago A LOT EARLIER THAN WE WERE (although it still gobsmacks me that there are some that appear to genuinely believe that (quote) "It would never have happened" (unquote)

Steve is as Cardiff City as anyone on here but he does have a 'vested' interest in the club through the money he ploughed into it when others sat back and watched. At that time, he was a 'hero' to the few of us who attended games and that was, to be fair, TOO BLOODY RIGHT TOO!

Who amongst us can genuinely say he hasn't (a) been good for Cardiff City FC, and (b) that he doesn't have both the BEST INTERESTS and WELFARE of Cardiff City FC at heart? Maybe the more deluded among us but certainly not the majority, who are far more intelligent than that

Steve does, of course, have a somewhat contradictory role at the club, i.e. as Board Member with a financial interest in the club doing well fiscally, and also as a long-serving and loyal supporter. Occasional 'conflict of roles' is inevitable but I feel that Steve will 'do what is right' for the long-term future of our club and we must trust him on that; even if it means that through his 'inside' knowledge he accepts that Tan's reasons for turning to the Red are somewhat justifiable looking at it from a purely financial view

He doesn't have to 'like' it but I am sure that for all the right reasons he 'understands' it (and I don't ever believe Steve's motivation for involvement has been money)

I don't know Steve personally; although on the occasions I have met him he appears to be a very humble guy who knows where his roots are. Try to understand his position here before crucifying him, eh?

Its evident to me where Mr Borleys loyalties lay , and it aint with us fans... he aint gonna go against his own interests.. Hand in Hand with the management of the club in my view

Of course his loyalties are with the club. As are mine.......I support the club not fans.

Fans ARE the club.

In my opinion they aren't.

I don't put fans before the manager, players or the people who actually keep this club financially afloat. I might not agree with them all the time.

If the fans are the most important then I'll listen to the majority of them.....which isn't BU.

Without the fans there is no club. Tan has a piece of paper he paid mliions for and without us, it's worthless.

Players, managers they all come and go, me and you are the club .

Its evident to me where Mr Borleys loyalties lay , and it aint with us fans... he aint gonna go against his own interests.. Hand in Hand with the management of the club in my view

Of course his loyalties are with the club. As are mine.......I support the club not fans.

Fans ARE the club.

In my opinion they aren't.

I don't put fans before the manager, players or the people who actually keep this club financially afloat. I might not agree with them all the time.

If the fans are the most important then I'll listen to the majority of them.....which isn't BU.

Without the fans there is no club. Tan has a piece of paper he paid mliions for and without us, it's worthless.

Players, managers they all come and go, me and you are the club .

....and fans don't?

Its evident to me where Mr Borleys loyalties lay , and it aint with us fans... he aint gonna go against his own interests.. Hand in Hand with the management of the club in my view

Of course his loyalties are with the club. As are mine.......I support the club not fans.

Fans ARE the club.

In my opinion they aren't.

I don't put fans before the manager, players or the people who actually keep this club financially afloat. I might not agree with them all the time.

If the fans are the most important then I'll listen to the majority of them.....which isn't BU.

Without the fans there is no club. Tan has a piece of paper he paid mliions for and without us, it's worthless.

Players, managers they all come and go, me and you are the club .

What if tan had never signed 'that piece of paper' fella?