AAMB representative

said this earlier! no. the trust has ten times as many members as thi board has people who travel with it or meet
for a pint its a messageboard ffs its people leting of steam on the internet cos they got the laptop handy fair fucks
to the ones that join the trust at least they are trying to have a say the only way to get someone of this board on the
board of the trust is for everyone to join the trust and vote the feller on it mus be embarasing for the lads who run this board that some of the posters think its like some kind of power base. it aint. its a place were people can type stuff if they want or go watch hamster. if u want a voice - join the trust in numbers because with big numbers you get a say right nopw its divide and rule

I may be an old cynic but I think it is more likely to be the people who run the Board, not ordinary posters, who think it is, or want it to be, some kind of power base. Who do you think would be the Board's "representative"- hmmm? . Thankfully, as you demonstrate in your post, the idea is totally ludicrous.

You are dead right that the only way to increase fans influence is for people to join the Trust in large numbers so that its democratically elected and accountable representatives can have more clout in its dealings with the club. No more self appointed fans "leaders" thank you very much.

Its laughable that anyone can take this seriously. How the hell can a forum (good as it is) who's contributors are mostly anonymous be taken seriously. Just my opinion.

Its laughable that anyone can take this seriously. How the hell can a forum (good as it is) who's contributors are mostly anonymous be taken seriously. Just my opinion.

A good question and one which several posters have already raised. Being a half full type of guy I never think things are impossible and I honestly believe we (as in AAMB) could organise enough to get someone elected onto the Supporters' Trust Board.

I fully accept your point about anonymous posters. However, Carl runs regular away travel which is mainly based on users of this message board.

From what I know he can take up to 3 buses to away games (50 seat coaches x 3 = 150) which is a sizable starting point. Then there are people like me who post but are not anonymous. That could easily add another 150 to the total giving approaching 300 potential supporters of the new representative.

The Trusts' full membership has been reported as being something like 600, so if the 300 AAMB newbie's joined and voted (we would have one third of the potential voting membership) for our candidate then it is overwhelmingly certain that person would be elected to the Trust Board.

Over course the above is an over simplification of what could happen but in theory its a possibility if the right candidate was put forward i.e. Carl/CityGent etc.

You raise good points there.

Its laughable that anyone can take this seriously. How the hell can a forum (good as it is) who's contributors are mostly anonymous be taken seriously. Just my opinion.

A good question and one which several posters have already raised. Being a half full type of guy I never think things are impossible and I honestly believe we (as in AAMB) could organise enough to get someone elected onto the Supporters' Trust Board.

I fully accept your point about anonymous posters. However, Carl runs regular away travel which is mainly based on users of this message board.

From what I know he can take up to 3 buses to away games (50 seat coaches x 3 = 150) which is a sizable starting point. Then there are people like me who post but are not anonymous. That could easily add another 150 to the total giving approaching 300 potential supporters of the new representative.

The Trusts' full membership has been reported as being something like 600, so if the 300 AAMB newbie's joined and voted (we would have one third of the potential voting membership) for our candidate then it is overwhelmingly certain that person would be elected to the Trust Board.

Over course the above is an over simplification of what could happen but in theory its a possibility if the right candidate was put forward i.e. Carl/CityGent etc.

Tony

Any adult Trust member is eligible to stand for election to its board each year*. In the 2013 elections which took place a few weeks ago , two new candidates stood for election and one was voted onto the board.Already , he has provided new ideas and initiatives which are being taken forward , which shows the benefits of "new blood". As is normal with all legally formed bodies , the majority decision of the board stands.

*Clearly , anyone standing for election has to comply with Supporters` Direct rules and there are also restrictions on individuals who have previous criminal convictions which have not yet expired under offenders` rehabilitaion laws (may take up to 10 years) or who have been made bankrupt.

It would be great if many more paid up members joined the Trust (your figures for existing member numbers is about right - there are currently about 670 members) and then exercised their voting rights to elect someone who represents their views best. This option has , of course , always been available.

Keith

Its laughable that anyone can take this seriously. How the hell can a forum (good as it is) who's contributors are mostly anonymous be taken seriously. Just my opinion.

A good question and one which several posters have already raised. Being a half full type of guy I never think things are impossible and I honestly believe we (as in AAMB) could organise enough to get someone elected onto the Supporters' Trust Board.

I fully accept your point about anonymous posters. However, Carl runs regular away travel which is mainly based on users of this message board.

From what I know he can take up to 3 buses to away games (50 seat coaches x 3 = 150) which is a sizable starting point. Then there are people like me who post but are not anonymous. That could easily add another 150 to the total giving approaching 300 potential supporters of the new representative.

The Trusts' full membership has been reported as being something like 600, so if the 300 AAMB newbie's joined and voted (we would have one third of the potential voting membership) for our candidate then it is overwhelmingly certain that person would be elected to the Trust Board.

Over course the above is an over simplification of what could happen but in theory its a possibility if the right candidate was put forward i.e. Carl/CityGent etc.

670 trust members so id say my initial figure is about right. ten times as many actully joined the trust more than
usually even go on away trips with AAMB but what wuld happen if the board did form a group everyone paying in subs and
being all official then first meeting the guest of honor is sam - big fan of the board - first item on agenda sams money lol.
if the trust wanted to increas support it souhld contact Sian and sit down with the BU grouptheyd all join in a heartbear t i
reckon if the Trust carried the protest for blue that thousands support

Its laughable that anyone can take this seriously. How the hell can a forum (good as it is) who's contributors are mostly anonymous be taken seriously. Just my opinion.

A good question and one which several posters have already raised. Being a half full type of guy I never think things are impossible and I honestly believe we (as in AAMB) could organise enough to get someone elected onto the Supporters' Trust Board.

I fully accept your point about anonymous posters. However, Carl runs regular away travel which is mainly based on users of this message board.

From what I know he can take up to 3 buses to away games (50 seat coaches x 3 = 150) which is a sizable starting point. Then there are people like me who post but are not anonymous. That could easily add another 150 to the total giving approaching 300 potential supporters of the new representative.

The Trusts' full membership has been reported as being something like 600, so if the 300 AAMB newbie's joined and voted (we would have one third of the potential voting membership) for our candidate then it is overwhelmingly certain that person would be elected to the Trust Board.

Over course the above is an over simplification of what could happen but in theory its a possibility if the right candidate was put forward i.e. Carl/CityGent etc.

670 trust members so id say my initial figure is about right. ten times as many actully joined the trust more than
usually even go on away trips with AAMB but what wuld happen if the board did form a group everyone paying in subs and
being all official then first meeting the guest of honor is sam - big fan of the board - first item on agenda sams money lol.
if the trust wanted to increas support it souhld contact Sian and sit down with the BU grouptheyd all join in a heartbear t i
reckon if the Trust carried the protest for blue that thousands support

Liking a facebook page and paying to join the trust are very very different.

Id take 1 paying trust member over 100 likes on a bloody facebook page.

Its laughable that anyone can take this seriously. How the hell can a forum (good as it is) who's contributors are mostly anonymous be taken seriously. Just my opinion.

A good question and one which several posters have already raised. Being a half full type of guy I never think things are impossible and I honestly believe we (as in AAMB) could organise enough to get someone elected onto the Supporters' Trust Board.

I fully accept your point about anonymous posters. However, Carl runs regular away travel which is mainly based on users of this message board.

From what I know he can take up to 3 buses to away games (50 seat coaches x 3 = 150) which is a sizable starting point. Then there are people like me who post but are not anonymous. That could easily add another 150 to the total giving approaching 300 potential supporters of the new representative.

The Trusts' full membership has been reported as being something like 600, so if the 300 AAMB newbie's joined and voted (we would have one third of the potential voting membership) for our candidate then it is overwhelmingly certain that person would be elected to the Trust Board.

Over course the above is an over simplification of what could happen but in theory its a possibility if the right candidate was put forward i.e. Carl/CityGent etc.

670 trust members so id say my initial figure is about right. ten times as many actully joined the trust more than
usually even go on away trips with AAMB but what wuld happen if the board did form a group everyone paying in subs and
being all official then first meeting the guest of honor is sam - big fan of the board - first item on agenda sams money lol.
if the trust wanted to increas support it souhld contact Sian and sit down with the BU grouptheyd all join in a heartbear t i
reckon if the Trust carried the protest for blue that thousands support

Liking a facebook page and paying to join the trust are very very different.

Id take 1 paying trust member over 100 likes on a bloody facebook page.

A few hundred of those 'likes' got up of they arses last week and marched thru town. so your wrong

A few hundred out of how many likes?

A few hundred out of how many likes?

Id take 1 paying trust member over 100 likes on a bloody facebook page.

your words not mine i simply pointed out that far far more than 100 likes got themselves out and about and actully did something
other than typing on a keyboard (and yes i was there!) i suspects you will now reply with another counter cos you dont got the
maturity to just say 'yep you were right'. the blue campaign is growing not slowing wether you like it or not

A few hundred out of how many likes?

Id take 1 paying trust member over 100 likes on a bloody facebook page.

your words not mine i simply pointed out that far far more than 100 likes got themselves out and about and actully did something
other than typing on a keyboard (and yes i was there!) i suspects you will now reply with another counter cos you dont got the
maturity to just say 'yep you were right'. the blue campaign is growing not slowing wether you like it or not

You have totally missed the point. So much so its funny.

A few hundred out of how many likes?

Id take 1 paying trust member over 100 likes on a bloody facebook page.

your words not mine i simply pointed out that far far more than 100 likes got themselves out and about and actully did something
other than typing on a keyboard (and yes i was there!) i suspects you will now reply with another counter cos you dont got the
maturity to just say 'yep you were right'. the blue campaign is growing not slowing wether you like it or not

You have totally missed the point. So much so its funny.

And it begins. Im asuming your point is that anyone can just click 'like' on Facebook but to actually join a trust means someone
has got up of they arse and done something - am i right - ? because i agree! however the fact that hundreds turned out for they
first meet sugests that a good percent of those that clicked 'like' also wanted to contrabute to the movement. the fact that the group is still gaining members also suggests the movement is still growing or does the evidence tell you otherwise?

A few hundred out of how many likes?

Id take 1 paying trust member over 100 likes on a bloody facebook page.

your words not mine i simply pointed out that far far more than 100 likes got themselves out and about and actully did something
other than typing on a keyboard (and yes i was there!) i suspects you will now reply with another counter cos you dont got the
maturity to just say 'yep you were right'. the blue campaign is growing not slowing wether you like it or not

You have totally missed the point. So much so its funny.

And it begins. Im asuming your point is that anyone can just click 'like' on Facebook but to actually join a trust means someone
has got up of they arse and done something - am i right - ? because i agree! however the fact that hundreds turned out for they
first meet sugests that a good percent of those that clicked 'like' also wanted to contrabute to the movement. the fact that the group is still gaining members also suggests the movement is still growing or does the evidence tell you otherwise?

I have never once said the movement isnt growing. The funny thing is you've agreed with me. So why the defensive attitude?

A few hundred out of how many likes?

Id take 1 paying trust member over 100 likes on a bloody facebook page.

your words not mine i simply pointed out that far far more than 100 likes got themselves out and about and actully did something
other than typing on a keyboard (and yes i was there!) i suspects you will now reply with another counter cos you dont got the
maturity to just say 'yep you were right'. the blue campaign is growing not slowing wether you like it or not

You have totally missed the point. So much so its funny.

And it begins. Im asuming your point is that anyone can just click 'like' on Facebook but to actually join a trust means someone
has got up of they arse and done something - am i right - ? because i agree! however the fact that hundreds turned out for they
first meet sugests that a good percent of those that clicked 'like' also wanted to contrabute to the movement. the fact that the group is still gaining members also suggests the movement is still growing or does the evidence tell you otherwise?

I have never once said the movement isnt growing. The funny thing is you've agreed with me. So why the defensive attitude?

Id take 1 paying trust member over 100 likes on a bloody facebook page.

i really apologise if i read THAT to mean you were in any way mugging off the efforts made by the FB group
because of course u werent were you.

A few hundred out of how many likes?

Id take 1 paying trust member over 100 likes on a bloody facebook page.

your words not mine i simply pointed out that far far more than 100 likes got themselves out and about and actully did something
other than typing on a keyboard (and yes i was there!) i suspects you will now reply with another counter cos you dont got the
maturity to just say 'yep you were right'. the blue campaign is growing not slowing wether you like it or not

You have totally missed the point. So much so its funny.

And it begins. Im asuming your point is that anyone can just click 'like' on Facebook but to actually join a trust means someone
has got up of they arse and done something - am i right - ? because i agree! however the fact that hundreds turned out for they
first meet sugests that a good percent of those that clicked 'like' also wanted to contrabute to the movement. the fact that the group is still gaining members also suggests the movement is still growing or does the evidence tell you otherwise?

I have never once said the movement isnt growing. The funny thing is you've agreed with me. So why the defensive attitude?

Id take 1 paying trust member over 100 likes on a bloody facebook page.

i really apologise if i read THAT to mean you were in any way mugging off the efforts made by the FB group
because of course u werent were you.

I have no idea how you have come to that conclusion that that sentence is "mugging off" anybody. It simply says that 1 person who pays to join something is better than 100 people clicking "like" on facebook.

A 'bloody facebook page' Admit your wrong sometime lad eh. dont make you less it makes you more

A 'bloody facebook page' Admit your wrong sometime lad eh. dont make you less it makes you more

Yes, as facebook is wank.

You cant quite grasp the point can you?

A 'bloody facebook page' Admit your wrong sometime lad eh. dont make you less it makes you more

Yes, as facebook is wank.

You cant quite grasp the point can you?

Facebook is wank? so by implication (particularly given your 'bloody facebook page' phrase) the group is wank? but the group has WORKED. i grasp stuff quiet well i dont think you are a troll i jus think you to imatture to admit when you might have something wrong

I will explain this as simple as possible as I think you may be slightly "backward"

If someone pays money to join a group or organisation that shows a really commitment to that cause.

If someone is sat on their arse on facebook in their living room and taps "like" on a page, that is not real commitment. (you are arguing a point you actually agreed with me on)

Now, that isn't saying that everybody who has "liked"a facebook page isn't really commited to said cause as I'm sure there are some that are but the fact someone parts with their money for something proves a definate commitment.

I'm not sure how you have twisted this in your head to me "mugging" anybody off. The fact that BU has has 2,329 "likes" on facebook. and only 10% could be bothered to join in their first organised event (which seemingly went well, kind of proves my point)

I hope this doesnt confuse you too much.

I will explain this as simple as possible as I think you may be slightly "backward"

If someone pays money to join a group or organisation that shows a really commitment to that cause.

If someone is sat on their arse on facebook in their living room and taps "like" on a page, that is not real commitment. (you are arguing a point you actually agreed with me on)

Now, that isn't saying that everybody who has "liked"a facebook page isn't really commited to said cause as I'm sure there are some that are but the fact someone parts with their money for something proves a definate commitment.

I'm not sure how you have twisted this in your head to me "mugging" anybody off. The fact that BU has has 2,329 "likes" on facebook. and only 10% could be bothered to join in their first organised event (which seemingly went well, kind of proves my point)

I hope this doesnt confuse you too much.

No confusion whatsoever you arrogant child. You can't mention anything to do with the group without having a pop.
See there is a positive side to the 300 that turned up. It means that a group in its infantcy HAS had a positive impact
and a positive affect.less you are going to come back and say Bluebirds Unite is dead in the water and has failed
then the Facebook Group has worked (obviously?) There is another meeting tonite, progresion. Tonite the group
means to set out its aims and has various media represention there. again, progress. The fact that someone parts with
they money is a definate comittment. But I pay £3 a month to Cancer Research and have never done a
marathon or visited a hospise or done volunttry work. am i more commited to fighting cancer than someone who runs
marathons? no.

I will explain this as simple as possible as I think you may be slightly "backward"

If someone pays money to join a group or organisation that shows a really commitment to that cause.

If someone is sat on their arse on facebook in their living room and taps "like" on a page, that is not real commitment. (you are arguing a point you actually agreed with me on)

Now, that isn't saying that everybody who has "liked"a facebook page isn't really commited to said cause as I'm sure there are some that are but the fact someone parts with their money for something proves a definate commitment.

I'm not sure how you have twisted this in your head to me "mugging" anybody off. The fact that BU has has 2,329 "likes" on facebook. and only 10% could be bothered to join in their first organised event (which seemingly went well, kind of proves my point)

I hope this doesnt confuse you too much.

No confusion whatsoever you arrogant child. You can't mention anything to do with the group without having a pop.
See there is a positive side to the 300 that turned up. It means that a group in its infantcy HAS had a positive impact
and a positive affect.less you are going to come back and say Bluebirds Unite is dead in the water and has failed
then the Facebook Group has worked (obviously?) There is another meeting tonite, progresion. Tonite the group
means to set out its aims and has various media represention there. again, progress. The fact that someone parts with
they money is a definate comittment. But I pay £3 a month to Cancer Research and have never done a
marathon or visited a hospise or done volunttry work. am i more commited to fighting cancer than someone who runs
marathons? no.

That line you have highlighted is not a pop at the organisation. Its a pop at the people who claim to be fully behind BU yet dont bother actually doing anything.

Again with the cancer analogy you are reaffirming what I said. Why are you arguing with me when you actually agree with me?

I will explain this as simple as possible as I think you may be slightly "backward"

If someone pays money to join a group or organisation that shows a really commitment to that cause.

If someone is sat on their arse on facebook in their living room and taps "like" on a page, that is not real commitment. (you are arguing a point you actually agreed with me on)

Now, that isn't saying that everybody who has "liked"a facebook page isn't really commited to said cause as I'm sure there are some that are but the fact someone parts with their money for something proves a definate commitment.

I'm not sure how you have twisted this in your head to me "mugging" anybody off. The fact that BU has has 2,329 "likes" on facebook. and only 10% could be bothered to join in their first organised event (which seemingly went well, kind of proves my point)

I hope this doesnt confuse you too much.

No confusion whatsoever you arrogant child. You can't mention anything to do with the group without having a pop.
See there is a positive side to the 300 that turned up. It means that a group in its infantcy HAS had a positive impact
and a positive affect.less you are going to come back and say Bluebirds Unite is dead in the water and has failed
then the Facebook Group has worked (obviously?) There is another meeting tonite, progresion. Tonite the group
means to set out its aims and has various media represention there. again, progress. The fact that someone parts with
they money is a definate comittment. But I pay £3 a month to Cancer Research and have never done a
marathon or visited a hospise or done volunttry work. am i more commited to fighting cancer than someone who runs
marathons? no.

That line you have highlighted is not a pop at the organisation. Its a pop at the people who claim to be fully behind BU yet dont bother actually doing anything.

Again with the cancer analogy you are reaffirming what I said. Why are you arguing with me when you actually agree with me?

Course yr having a pop. a "Bloody facebook page" and "only 10% bothered to turn up"??? is that you being positive is it??
And the analagy i used hilighted that yes, somebody joining the Trust has put their money were they mouth is
and thats good! but there are HUNDREDS of people pressed 'like' on that 'bloody facebook page' that went out and
actually did something too. So that ''bloody facebook page'' has bloody worked

OH MY DEAR GOD.

Anyone can see what craig means and the best bit about it is he agreed with him in another post yet continues to argue something he agrees with, only on AAMB folks