Four offers on the table - Tan & Langston

The rebrand was as hard to swallow for fans like me (a reluctant red) as it was for those who want to be Blue no matter what the consequences are.

But the reason why we are reluctant reds is because we wanted to see resolutions to matters like this one (the Langston Loan Notes) and the back of asset strippers PMG.

When all the rhetoric is put to one side those opposed to the rebrand have never explained how we can ever fund £15m+ to settle this debt, apart from entering administration/bankruptcy (where we really would be stripped of our identity as we would almost certainly come back as Cardiff City 2013 or something similar) and also with no honour as we would have resolved our debts 'Swansea style'

Cardiff City will one day be blue again but we have to accept that for now losing our primary colour is a price we have to pay for years of over spending money we didn't have.

That's why I think it is far better to give VT room to do his stuff and restore this club to financial security before seeking an all out return back to blue.

I'm a blue thru and thru but dyu know wha? I could swallow red shirts if thats what he wants. the blue shorts/socks scenareo like spain appeals to me. even a modified badge with the dragon abit biger and the bluebird back to size. blue shirt for away games. happy days for me. how easy wuld that be for tan? imposible it seems. he wont budge an inch on something that surely can't matter that much to him. hed have his lucky red. but hed be giving the fans something back to. the fact that he wont do it and the embarasing 'choose your own shorts' comedy is the kind of thing thats making the gulf bigger. the blue campaign will keep growing wen all he got to do is give us shorts and socks and everyone would say oh well, we not going to get more than that our work is done

So you are saying Tan WON'T just abandon his vision against the backlash of a blue protest. Toashack_1 said a protest would see Tan walk away and we'd be in administration. So which one is it?

If the scenario comes about that we are out of debt, VT owns the club and, as YOU say, he will not just abandon his vision, what is the problem with ramping up our want to return to blue? We are not risking the life of the club and possibly throwing us into administration.

No problem whatsoever but, possibly unlike you I, don't think and increased number of fans calling for blue will in any way result in a change back to blue

So you are saying Tan WON'T just abandon his vision against the backlash of a blue protest. Toashack_1 said a protest would see Tan walk away and we'd be in administration. So which one is it?

If the scenario comes about that we are out of debt, VT owns the club and, as YOU say, he will not just abandon his vision, what is the problem with ramping up our want to return to blue? We are not risking the life of the club and possibly throwing us into administration.

No problem whatsoever but, possibly unlike you I, don't think and increased number of fans calling for blue will in any way result in a change back to blue

Ah now we agree. I don't think it will help either, well, not until the next owners arrive. So for that reason alone it's worth keeping the club aware of what the fans want just in case the next money man is looking for a quick 'win' with the fans.

So you are saying Tan WON'T just abandon his vision against the backlash of a blue protest. Toashack_1 said a protest would see Tan walk away and we'd be in administration. So which one is it?

If the scenario comes about that we are out of debt, VT owns the club and, as YOU say, he will not just abandon his vision, what is the problem with ramping up our want to return to blue? We are not risking the life of the club and possibly throwing us into administration.

No problem whatsoever but, possibly unlike you I, don't think and increased number of fans calling for blue will in any way result in a change back to blue

Ah now we agree. I don't think it will help either, well, not until the next owners arrive. So for that reason alone it's worth keeping the club aware of what the fans want just in case the next money man is looking for a quick 'win' with the fans.

Spot on.I don't believe for one minute that Tan will ever reinstate blue.It's about keeping the fanbase as blue as possible,so that when a new owner arrives,restoring the blue is an automatic choice. My guess is that Tan will eventually tire of seeing a 'sea of blue' in the stands every week,likewise continuous pro blue chants will eventually persuade him to sell the club on.

He has already demonstrated through his comments at the recent awards evening and via the scarf giveaway,that he wants to see City fans positively embrace red. Dictators want to be loved too...A blue fanbase will ultimately see him exit the club,I believe,but for us,as fans,it's going to be all about 'playing the long game.'

The rebrand was as hard to swallow for fans like me (a reluctant red) as it was for those who want to be Blue no matter what the consequences are.

But the reason why we are reluctant reds is because we wanted to see resolutions to matters like this one (the Langston Loan Notes) and the back of asset strippers PMG.

When all the rhetoric is put to one side those opposed to the rebrand have never explained how we can ever fund £15m+ to settle this debt, apart from entering administration/bankruptcy (where we really would be stripped of our identity as we would almost certainly come back as Cardiff City 2013 or something similar) and also with no honour as we would have resolved our debts 'Swansea style'

Cardiff City will one day be blue again but we have to accept that for now losing our primary colour is a price we have to pay for years of over spending money we didn't have.

That's why I think it is far better to give VT room to do his stuff and restore this club to financial security before seeking an all out return back to blue.

I'm a blue thru and thru but dyu know wha? I could swallow red shirts if thats what he wants. the blue shorts/socks scenareo like spain appeals to me. even a modified badge with the dragon abit biger and the bluebird back to size. blue shirt for away games. happy days for me. how easy wuld that be for tan? imposible it seems. he wont budge an inch on something that surely can't matter that much to him. hed have his lucky red. but hed be giving the fans something back to. the fact that he wont do it and the embarasing 'choose your own shorts' comedy is the kind of thing thats making the gulf bigger. the blue campaign will keep growing wen all he got to do is give us shorts and socks and everyone would say oh well, we not going to get more than that our work is done

Agree with both posters above.

Once the debt is settled , the blue campaign will be immense

Once the debts settled and debt to equity is done then i think you might be rite

Now THAT I can understand.

With just Langston sorted we are just MORE in the pocket of Tan and many wont want to rock the boat, but with debt to equity as well the campaign will see Tan as someone who has a lot to lose should he not listen.

You just love Tan, i followed you for a while, you actually love his power and ability to f**k us over