It makes my stomach turn,---- TRUE BLUEBIRD FAN

@JonCCFC

You are one of the most vocal anti re-rand posters on the forum and respect to you for that but is the poster further up correct in saying you have bought one of Tan's re-branded city tops? Rebrand, meaning the swap of home and away colours and the new badge.

The only "rebrand top" is the red home shirt in my eyes. Badges change at all clubs from time to time. We've had many.

I agree with this , the badge doesn't bother me as much (even though its shit)

I think Jon Ccfc has taken the clown mantle from Chuckles on this board

It's entirely possible to support the team wearing red but also want to return to blue.

I'm sorry, but that is absolute rubbish. If you actually want a return to blue, you wouldn't wear the very shirt that is the total opposite of what you actually want.

If you are wearing a red shirt, you are actively endorsing the rebrand & therefore cannot say you wish for a return to blue.

1. We still have a bluebird on the badge.

2. It's entirely possible to support the team wearing red but also want to return to blue.

3. Preference of colour means NOTHING when it comes down to who loves the City more. I'd say being there in the hard times, supporting no matter what is more important and fans who are anti rebrand or rebrand accepting both have those kind of fans on their side.

4. The blue campaign needs to nip these type of comments in the bud as it wrecks their credibility and support in the eyes of other City fans.

1. We still have a bluebird on the badge.
Thankfully, that's the only thing left of our true identity other than the name.
2. It's entirely possible to support the team wearing red but also want to return to blue.
Yes, but by wearing red you're supporting the rebrand, and therefore you're making it more unlikely to go back to blue.
3. Preference of colour means NOTHING when it comes down to who loves the City more. I'd say being there in the hard times, supporting no matter what is more important and fans who are anti rebrand or rebrand accepting both have those kind of fans on their side.
I agree, loyalty is far more important.
4. The blue campaign needs to nip these type of comments in the bud as it wrecks their credibility and support in the eyes of other City fans.
I suppose but some of these comments are not wrong.

It's entirely possible to support the team wearing red but also want to return to blue.

I'm sorry, but that is absolute rubbish. If you actually want a return to blue, you wouldn't wear the very shirt that is the total opposite of what you actually want.

If you are wearing a red shirt, you are actively endorsing the rebrand & therefore cannot say you wish for a return to blue.

Exactly

As long as there is a Bluebird on the badge fans should actively shout for the Bluebirds.
If the Bluebird was ever taken from our badge I would expect our fans to continue to shout Bluebirds.
Contrary to belief it is impossible to do away with, sell or delete history.
Just for information: When we won the FA cup in 1927 we did not have a Bluebird on the badge but a Dragon was present on there. Many of the older generation were sad to see the Dragon which is a huge symbol of our Welshness disappear into the archives of history......That History is still there though.
The young generation are part of this new history and they are probably as excited about it as the people who were new to watching Cardiff City when the Bluebird was made into our club badge.

It's entirely possible to support the team wearing red but also want to return to blue.

I'm sorry, but that is absolute rubbish. If you actually want a return to blue, you wouldn't wear the very shirt that is the total opposite of what you actually want.

If you are wearing a red shirt, you are actively endorsing the rebrand & therefore cannot say you wish for a return to blue.

Exactly

if you are wearing a top with the new badge, you are actively endorsing the rebrand as that badge is part of the rebrand.

Duh. You are without a doubt the most stupid human I've ever come across in person or online. Seriously, its worth the ban just to tell you. You need to be told.

It's entirely possible to support the team wearing red but also want to return to blue.

I'm sorry, but that is absolute rubbish. If you actually want a return to blue, you wouldn't wear the very shirt that is the total opposite of what you actually want.

If you are wearing a red shirt, you are actively endorsing the rebrand & therefore cannot say you wish for a return to blue.

Exactly

if you are wearing a top with the new badge, you are actively endorsing the rebrand as that badge is part of the rebrand.

Duh. You are without a doubt the most stupid human I've ever come across in person or online. Seriously, its worth the ban just to tell you. You need to be told.

You really don't get it, do you? How many times do I have to tell you? I might just write it out one more time and every time you bring it up I should copy and paste it. Bored of explaining it to you.

@JonCCFC

You are one of the most vocal anti re-rand posters on the forum and respect to you for that but is the poster further up correct in saying you have bought one of Tan's re-branded city tops? Rebrand, meaning the swap of home and away colours and the new badge.

The only "rebrand top" is the red home shirt in my eyes. Badges change at all clubs from time to time. We've had many.

I agree with this , the badge doesn't bother me as much (even though its shit)

Atleast someone else agrees with me!

It's entirely possible to support the team wearing red but also want to return to blue.

I'm sorry, but that is absolute rubbish. If you actually want a return to blue, you wouldn't wear the very shirt that is the total opposite of what you actually want.

If you are wearing a red shirt, you are actively endorsing the rebrand & therefore cannot say you wish for a return to blue.

Chuckles, you must realise that not everyone has the same extreme opinions on the rebrand as you do. You must realise that for some people they will wear red to get behind Cardiff as their team are wearing red. That also doesn't mean they would oppose a return to blue and may even actively get behind the change. But for as long as Cardiff are red, they will support them by wearing red.

I don't own a red shirt but I am not against owning one and I am right behind CCFC and I can see where VT is coming from and am excited for our future. But, even though I am getting very tired of an element of the blue brigade and attitudes such as yours, it would be a great day to see us play in blue again.

Not everyone has to hate Tan and the rebrand to want to see Cardiff go back to blue. Please realise this.

Not everyone is taking all of this as extreme and dramatically as you and others are.

They're not supporting the Rebrand as such... They're supporting the Team... Who currently play in Red...


It's not as simple as "You wear red,because of people like you we're in this mess".

How a genuine fan of Cardiff city can sit at a game shouting, BLUEBIRDS and BLUE ARMY, whilst dressed in RED is beyond me. It makes my stomach turn, We as a club are being torn apart. DON"T ACCEPT IT.---------- CCFC

I can remember 30,000+ Bluebirds waving Black & Yellow flags at Wembley during the 2008 FA Cup Final, that must have made your bowls collapse.

Over the years I have bought loads of away tops in colours (including red) covering the spectrum. Does that show any kind of disloyalty?

What you are spouting is nonsense there have been thousands of occasions in the past of City fans wearing other colours other than Blue but still supporting the team.

Chuckles, you must realise that not everyone has the same extreme opinions on the rebrand as you do. You must realise that for some people they will wear red to get behind Cardiff as their team are wearing red. That also doesn't mean they would oppose a return to blue and may even actively get behind the change. But for as long as Cardiff are red, they will support them by wearing red.

I don't own a red shirt but I am not against owning one and I am right behind CCFC and I can see where VT is coming from and am excited for our future. But, even though I am getting very tired of an element of the blue brigade and attitudes such as yours, it would be a great day to see us play in blue again.

Not everyone has to hate Tan and the rebrand to want to see Cardiff go back to blue. Please realise this.

Not everyone is taking all of this as extreme and dramatically as you and others are.

Please realise this. If you want to see CCFC back in blue, wearing red is NOT the way to go about it. If you wear a red shrt, you are actively endorsing the rebrand & therefore cannot say you are against it! It's common sense. You don't have to wear red to support CCFC.

How a genuine fan of Cardiff city can sit at a game shouting, BLUEBIRDS and BLUE ARMY, whilst dressed in RED is beyond me. It makes my stomach turn, We as a club are being torn apart. DON"T ACCEPT IT.---------- CCFC

Boo hoo

How a genuine fan of Cardiff city can sit at a game shouting, BLUEBIRDS and BLUE ARMY, whilst dressed in RED is beyond me. It makes my stomach turn, We as a club are being torn apart. DON"T ACCEPT IT.---------- CCFC

A genuine Cardiff City Supporter.... Supporting his/her team no matter what... Putting aside his/her personal feeling and hurts to Support the team.

And this makes your stomach turn?


I would never wear red.. I find it difficult to watch my city play in red..

But I would never abuse someone who wears red to show their support for the team we are both there to watch.

This

Chuckles, you must realise that not everyone has the same extreme opinions on the rebrand as you do. You must realise that for some people they will wear red to get behind Cardiff as their team are wearing red. That also doesn't mean they would oppose a return to blue and may even actively get behind the change. But for as long as Cardiff are red, they will support them by wearing red.

I don't own a red shirt but I am not against owning one and I am right behind CCFC and I can see where VT is coming from and am excited for our future. But, even though I am getting very tired of an element of the blue brigade and attitudes such as yours, it would be a great day to see us play in blue again.

Not everyone has to hate Tan and the rebrand to want to see Cardiff go back to blue. Please realise this.

Not everyone is taking all of this as extreme and dramatically as you and others are.

Please realise this. If you want to see CCFC back in blue, wearing red is NOT the way to go about it. If you wear a red shrt, you are actively endorsing the rebrand & therefore cannot say you are against it! It's common sense. You don't have to wear red to support CCFC.

I watched us in division 2 and seen us at the millennium stadium aswell getting promoted to the championship playing in blue and I loved it!
We play in red now and I bought a red shirt beginning of last season and I wear it with pride because we are still cardiff city and in the premiership now and I love it!
Red or blue we are still cardiff city and will always have my full support whatever colour we play in

How a genuine fan of Cardiff city can sit at a game shouting, BLUEBIRDS and BLUE ARMY, whilst dressed in RED is beyond me. It makes my stomach turn, We as a club are being torn apart. DON"T ACCEPT IT.---------- CCFC

Boo hoo

BOO HOO. ----- -- BOO HOO CCFC

Chuckles, you must realise that not everyone has the same extreme opinions on the rebrand as you do. You must realise that for some people they will wear red to get behind Cardiff as their team are wearing red. That also doesn't mean they would oppose a return to blue and may even actively get behind the change. But for as long as Cardiff are red, they will support them by wearing red.

I don't own a red shirt but I am not against owning one and I am right behind CCFC and I can see where VT is coming from and am excited for our future. But, even though I am getting very tired of an element of the blue brigade and attitudes such as yours, it would be a great day to see us play in blue again.

Not everyone has to hate Tan and the rebrand to want to see Cardiff go back to blue. Please realise this.

Not everyone is taking all of this as extreme and dramatically as you and others are.

Please realise this. If you want to see CCFC back in blue, wearing red is NOT the way to go about it. If you wear a red shrt, you are actively endorsing the rebrand & therefore cannot say you are against it! It's common sense. You don't have to wear red to support CCFC.

I watched us in division 2 and seen us at the millennium stadium aswell getting promoted to the championship playing in blue and I loved it!
We play in red now and I bought a red shirt beginning of last season and I wear it with pride because we are still cardiff city and in the premiership now and I love it!
Red or blue we are still cardiff city and will always have my full support whatever colour we play in

Good for you. Absolutely nothing to do with my point, but good for you.

Chuckles, you must realise that not everyone has the same extreme opinions on the rebrand as you do. You must realise that for some people they will wear red to get behind Cardiff as their team are wearing red. That also doesn't mean they would oppose a return to blue and may even actively get behind the change. But for as long as Cardiff are red, they will support them by wearing red.

I don't own a red shirt but I am not against owning one and I am right behind CCFC and I can see where VT is coming from and am excited for our future. But, even though I am getting very tired of an element of the blue brigade and attitudes such as yours, it would be a great day to see us play in blue again.

Not everyone has to hate Tan and the rebrand to want to see Cardiff go back to blue. Please realise this.

Not everyone is taking all of this as extreme and dramatically as you and others are.

Please realise this. If you want to see CCFC back in blue, wearing red is NOT the way to go about it. If you wear a red shrt, you are actively endorsing the rebrand & therefore cannot say you are against it! It's common sense. You don't have to wear red to support CCFC.

People don't wear red to protest the rebrand, they wear it to support the team and the club. The majority of City fans don't really want to protest the rebrand but would still appreciate the blue coming back. Doesn't make any of them less of a fan.

People don't wear red to protest the rebrand, they wear it to support the team and the club. The majority of City fans don't really want to protest the rebrand but would still appreciate the blue coming back. Doesn't make any of them less of a fan.

What? are you reading any of my posts properly at all?!

If people would like to see blue back, then wearing the red shirt has to be one of the dullest things to do... it's like organising an AA meeting in a bar.

Now, stop putting words in my mouth. Where on earth did I say they were any less of a fan for wearing red?!

I can't fathom why anyone would, but it's a free world.

Chuckles, you must realise that not everyone has the same extreme opinions on the rebrand as you do. You must realise that for some people they will wear red to get behind Cardiff as their team are wearing red. That also doesn't mean they would oppose a return to blue and may even actively get behind the change. But for as long as Cardiff are red, they will support them by wearing red.

I don't own a red shirt but I am not against owning one and I am right behind CCFC and I can see where VT is coming from and am excited for our future. But, even though I am getting very tired of an element of the blue brigade and attitudes such as yours, it would be a great day to see us play in blue again.

Not everyone has to hate Tan and the rebrand to want to see Cardiff go back to blue. Please realise this.

Not everyone is taking all of this as extreme and dramatically as you and others are.

Please realise this. If you want to see CCFC back in blue, wearing red is NOT the way to go about it. If you wear a red shrt, you are actively endorsing the rebrand & therefore cannot say you are against it! It's common sense. You don't have to wear red to support CCFC.

I watched us in division 2 and seen us at the millennium stadium aswell getting promoted to the championship playing in blue and I loved it!
We play in red now and I bought a red shirt beginning of last season and I wear it with pride because we are still cardiff city and in the premiership now and I love it!
Red or blue we are still cardiff city and will always have my full support whatever colour we play in

Good for you. Absolutely nothing to do with my point, but good for you.

Thank you Barry

I don't agree with you Cakey, but this is about opinions & everyone has a right to one.

I don't agree with you Cakey, but this is about opinions & everyone has a right to one.

Yeh that's it everyone got differant opinions. I was just putting my one out there.
Because I wear a red top with pride (don't wear kits on matchdays) and shout bluebirds on the terraces like I always have done since I stated watching cardiff over 10 years ago, this taffy fella I expect wouldn't call me a true bluebird fan which is a load of bullshit sorry.

You're right, it is bullshit & I'm sorry to say its doing us "anti-rebrand" brigade no favours.

My point was that someone who wears a red shirt then can't say that they are anti rebrand, as that would be silly.

Chuckles, you must realise that not everyone has the same extreme opinions on the rebrand as you do. You must realise that for some people they will wear red to get behind Cardiff as their team are wearing red. That also doesn't mean they would oppose a return to blue and may even actively get behind the change. But for as long as Cardiff are red, they will support them by wearing red.

I don't own a red shirt but I am not against owning one and I am right behind CCFC and I can see where VT is coming from and am excited for our future. But, even though I am getting very tired of an element of the blue brigade and attitudes such as yours, it would be a great day to see us play in blue again.

Not everyone has to hate Tan and the rebrand to want to see Cardiff go back to blue. Please realise this.

Not everyone is taking all of this as extreme and dramatically as you and others are.

Please realise this. If you want to see CCFC back in blue, wearing red is NOT the way to go about it. If you wear a red shrt, you are actively endorsing the rebrand & therefore cannot say you are against it! It's common sense. You don't have to wear red to support CCFC.

Anybody who bought a season ticket for last season/next or both seasons are endorsing the rebrand, Tan happily excepts all our money with open arms

Not for me. I enjoy watching CCFC play. To enable to do this I MUST purchase a ST in the ground. There is no other way of watching CCFC live at home, in the flesh. I have no option.

Because I purchase that ticket, it doesn't mean that I agree with every decision that the club has made. Did you disagree with Ridsdale's golden ticket scheme? If so, why didn't you stop going?

You DO NOT have to buy a red shirt to watch CCFC play, so to purchase one is actively endorsing the rebrand.

Not for me. I enjoy watching CCFC play. To enable to do this I MUST purchase a ST in the ground. There is no other way of watching CCFC live at home, in the flesh. I have no option.

Because I purchase that ticket, it doesn't mean that I agree with every decision that the club has made. Did you disagree with Ridsdale's golden ticket scheme? If so, why didn't you stop going?

You DO NOT have to buy a red shirt to watch CCFC play, so to purchase one is actively endorsing the rebrand.

You are rite Chucks i didn't agree with the golden ticket scheme, but I had handed over my money before I knew it didn't do what it said it was going to do. So at that point I had paid why should I stop going , every who bought a season ticket knew what was happening

You're right, it is bullshit & I'm sorry to say its doing us "anti-rebrand" brigade no favours.

My point was that someone who wears a red shirt then can't say that they are anti rebrand, as that would be silly.

Yes Barry that would be silly! I support the re brand and support tans vision that's why I'm happy enough to wear the red top

People don't wear red to protest the rebrand, they wear it to support the team and the club. The majority of City fans don't really want to protest the rebrand but would still appreciate the blue coming back. Doesn't make any of them less of a fan.

What? are you reading any of my posts properly at all?!

If people would like to see blue back, then wearing the red shirt has to be one of the dullest things to do... it's like organising an AA meeting in a bar.

Now, stop putting words in my mouth. Where on earth did I say they were any less of a fan for wearing red?!

I can't fathom why anyone would, but it's a free world.

I'm pretty sure you didn't understand my posts either.

You are truly not getting it.

You are putting words in mine, when did I say you said that.

What I mean is, just because someone is anti-rebrand...doesn't mean they still wouldn't like the blue back. If you asked every CCFC fan what colour they would like to play in I am sure 100% would say blue. But probably well over 75% of them don't really see wearing red as an issue.
There, I'm done with this.

How a genuine fan of Cardiff city can sit at a game shouting, BLUEBIRDS and BLUE ARMY, whilst dressed in RED is beyond me. It makes my stomach turn, We as a club are being torn apart. DON"T ACCEPT IT.---------- CCFC

ok so you dont like it..we hear you...i dont like it either.....but it aint gonna change so get over it.

this is getting boring now

"Get over it"? Absolutely no chance of that