BRITISH PRESS REPORTING - ARE THEY AFRAID OF ISLAM?

if the asian youths were attacking choudry every time
he opened his mouth hed be gone. finished. no platform. they attack white extremists why not islamist ones? fair question?

The thing is the EDL come into towns and deliberately and provocatively march on areas where they know they can cause a scene and frighten law abiding families, they very often attack Muslim (or any body who "looks" Muslim) shops, women and other soft targets so they MUST be stopped by all means necessary. The EDL and BNP both play a fine game with the law and quite often have have conferences and talks which the Muslim youth don't bother targetting, the problem is marches through areas with Muslims living there and then the consequent abuse and attempted destruction of those areas.
Likewise fools like choudary are NOT allowed to lecture in any of the Mosques (once people know who he is) but what they do is rent private community centres or go to their homes and have their little get-togethers. People have had blows outside Mosques after prayers other different views and generally people like that do NOT share their views only with other like minded individuals. If choudary and his few followers were to attempt to walk through areas were Muslims are and shout abuse etc (like the EDL) then they too would get the same treatment.

In the same way the EDL and BNP talk, Choudary talks - they are known to the police and it's for the police to arrest them. If someone is chatting shit to me I'd tell him "you're wrong mate" (Choudary or EDL) but if someone is being abusive in person or is threatening my or my family's safety then I would do all I could to stop him.......you see the difference.

About the soldiers I agree with you that there are perverts and criminals in all communities and parts of society.

As much as id like to say great yr right i disagree. no matter were the EDL or BNP are sposed to spk, hundreds are
all over it protesting ready to fight. until this hapens when radical islamists are speaking and lets be fair its not like
the UAF cant find out, or local muslim youths. then people like me who aint got a racsist bone in my body will suspect
that choudry is geting a swerve. ONLY islam can root out radicals and Islam in britain obvously aint doing enough as for
white extremists f**k me they are hounded out of jobs houses homes and batered on the streets. if muslim youths gave
choudry a good hiding the BNP etc wuld be finished overnight

ACTING UNDER ORDERS from govermentYOU THINK? two british soldiers main sky story fined for verbal abusing of
Afghans. Dont get me wrong, punish them, they were in the wrong but yet not one f*cking mention of this c**t today? :

http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/ne ... lfire.html

Be careful you will upset some of the multiculturists on here

Leftie/ Liberal scumbags you mean

The problem lies with the muslim community its up to them to identify & banish these hate preachers, they talk a lot but never take any action

if the asian youths were attacking choudry every time
he opened his mouth hed be gone. finished. no platform. they attack white extremists why not islamist ones? fair question?

The thing is the EDL come into towns and deliberately and provocatively march on areas where they know they can cause a scene and frighten law abiding families, they very often attack Muslim (or any body who "looks" Muslim) shops, women and other soft targets so they MUST be stopped by all means necessary. The EDL and BNP both play a fine game with the law and quite often have have conferences and talks which the Muslim youth don't bother targetting, the problem is marches through areas with Muslims living there and then the consequent abuse and attempted destruction of those areas.
Likewise fools like choudary are NOT allowed to lecture in any of the Mosques (once people know who he is) but what they do is rent private community centres or go to their homes and have their little get-togethers. People have had blows outside Mosques after prayers other different views and generally people like that do NOT share their views only with other like minded individuals. If choudary and his few followers were to attempt to walk through areas were Muslims are and shout abuse etc (like the EDL) then they too would get the same treatment.

In the same way the EDL and BNP talk, Choudary talks - they are known to the police and it's for the police to arrest them. If someone is chatting shit to me I'd tell him "you're wrong mate" (Choudary or EDL) but if someone is being abusive in person or is threatening my or my family's safety then I would do all I could to stop him.......you see the difference.

About the soldiers I agree with you that there are perverts and criminals in all communities and parts of society.

As much as id like to say great yr right i disagree. no matter were the EDL or BNP are sposed to spk, hundreds are
all over it protesting ready to fight. until this hapens when radical islamists are speaking and lets be fair its not like
the UAF cant find out, or local muslim youths. then people like me who aint got a racsist bone in my body will suspect
that choudry is geting a swerve. ONLY islam can root out radicals and Islam in britain obvously aint doing enough as for
white extremists f**k me they are hounded out of jobs houses homes and batered on the streets. if muslim youths gave
choudry a good hiding the BNP etc wuld be finished overnight

I don't know about that, the BNP were voted for by hundreds of thousands of British people in European elections a few years back. They are legal here, as are the EDL and they get plenty of air time. There are plenty of EDL "leaders" going about their lives peacefully when they're not rabble rousing and the only times they are battered is when they are on the attack, just go to youtube and see some of the horrific shit they're spouting quite openly without any comebacks. They are GENERALLY all living their lives openly. I ask you, do you go around beating up anybody who has extreme views you come into contact with???? I guess the answer is no otherwise you'd spend most of your life in prison. However if you were in imminent danger then maybe you'd give me a different answer.

As I've said before UAF are specifically worried about the return of Nazism, you have to remember there were Nazi sympathisers/supporters even here in the UK during Hitler's days and were it not for American help then the recent history of Britain and indeed Europe might have been very different. So given how relatively recent we had Nazis and Facists in power in Europe and the terrible consequenses for Europe I understand how ultra alert they are to any return of Nazism/Facism.

if the asian youths were attacking choudry every time
he opened his mouth hed be gone. finished. no platform. they attack white extremists why not islamist ones? fair question?

The thing is the EDL come into towns and deliberately and provocatively march on areas where they know they can cause a scene and frighten law abiding families, they very often attack Muslim (or any body who "looks" Muslim) shops, women and other soft targets so they MUST be stopped by all means necessary. The EDL and BNP both play a fine game with the law and quite often have have conferences and talks which the Muslim youth don't bother targetting, the problem is marches through areas with Muslims living there and then the consequent abuse and attempted destruction of those areas.
Likewise fools like choudary are NOT allowed to lecture in any of the Mosques (once people know who he is) but what they do is rent private community centres or go to their homes and have their little get-togethers. People have had blows outside Mosques after prayers other different views and generally people like that do NOT share their views only with other like minded individuals. If choudary and his few followers were to attempt to walk through areas were Muslims are and shout abuse etc (like the EDL) then they too would get the same treatment.

In the same way the EDL and BNP talk, Choudary talks - they are known to the police and it's for the police to arrest them. If someone is chatting shit to me I'd tell him "you're wrong mate" (Choudary or EDL) but if someone is being abusive in person or is threatening my or my family's safety then I would do all I could to stop him.......you see the difference.

About the soldiers I agree with you that there are perverts and criminals in all communities and parts of society.

As much as id like to say great yr right i disagree. no matter were the EDL or BNP are sposed to spk, hundreds are
all over it protesting ready to fight. until this hapens when radical islamists are speaking and lets be fair its not like
the UAF cant find out, or local muslim youths. then people like me who aint got a racsist bone in my body will suspect
that choudry is geting a swerve. ONLY islam can root out radicals and Islam in britain obvously aint doing enough as for
white extremists f**k me they are hounded out of jobs houses homes and batered on the streets. if muslim youths gave
choudry a good hiding the BNP etc wuld be finished overnight

I don't know about that, the BNP were voted for by hundreds of thousands of British people in European elections a few years back. They are legal here, as are the EDL and they get plenty of air time. There are plenty of EDL "leaders" going about their lives peacefully when they're not rabble rousing and the only times they are battered is when they are on the attack, just go to youtube and see some of the horrific shit they're spouting quite openly without any comebacks. They are GENERALLY all living their lives openly. I ask you, do you go around beating up anybody who has extreme views you come into contact with???? I guess the answer is no otherwise you'd spend most of your life in prison. However if you were in imminent danger then maybe you'd give me a different answer.

As I've said before UAF are specifically worried about the return of Nazism, you have to remember there were Nazi sympathisers/supporters even here in the UK during Hitler's days and were it not for American help then the recent history of Britain and indeed Europe might have been very different. So given how relatively recent we had Nazis and Facists in power in Europe and the terrible consequenses for Europe I understand how ultra alert they are to any return of Nazism/Facism.

We never gon agree but i think wen the UAF have banners say Stop Islamophobia i think they are specificly
higliting Islam. So by the same token why do they not have banner saying Stop Christianophopia or some such
stuff and go knock choudry out of bed. it truly think if muslims smashed f**k out of the radicals they would
end all the tension in /britain overnight same as the way 'whites' smash f**k out of the white extremists

But does the EDL or even the BNP kill people ? Sorry but these Muslim or Islam extremists kills tens of thousands. How on earth do they begin to compare ?

ACTING UNDER ORDERS from govermentYOU THINK? two british soldiers main sky story fined for verbal abusing of
Afghans. Dont get me wrong, punish them, they were in the wrong but yet not one f*cking mention of this c**t today? :

http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/ne ... lfire.html

He won't be arrested as he's allowed to say what he likes and the government don't won't to upset Muslims and minoritys but couldn't give a shit about the majority.

I've said before and I'll say it again, Under the last Government (Labour) then they made it law that insulting Islam is an criminal offence whereas Muslims can say what they like without arrest. Why have so many Twitter users been arrested for remarks against muslims but this vile vermin gets away with it time time again?

If I was to stand up and say what this vile cnnut says then my feet wouldn't touch the floor.

Very true my friend.

The problem is Choudary knows exactly how to manipulate freedom of speech laws. If he makes his rants in Arabic then he can almost say what he likes as the law says the offensive remarks have to be made within earshot of someone who would find them offensive or feel distressed.

Even if he says them in English, providing he is preaching to the converted he can again get away with it.

Believe it or not the most famous testing of this law came from Nick Griffin and the BNP a couple of years ago. Griffin was secretly taped by Panorama saying that "Asian's would do for your families"

In the resulting court case NG was found 'not guilty' because he was found to be "preaching to the converted"

Probably a review of the law is required, but unfortunately that would upset the Liberal lobby.

Not only did Griffin say it behind closed doors but in actual fact said it in public as I saw it and he said that Asian gangs were going round gang raping white school girls and the police were turning a blind eye.

Panorama confirmed what Nick Griffin had said was true as they were doing and undercover research and would broadcast their program on Tuesday before the 2008 election but Labour blocked it as they were scared of losing votes so the show was never aired.

It wasn't till Labour lost power that all these Muslim rape gangs have come into the public domain as Labour f*cking love diversity and integration and mulit cultisisum that they wanted the british public to think their Ideology is working but to be honest it has been a f*cking nightmare. Islam? f*cking backwards culture, terrorists and rapists.

Prison population?

A 3rd are Muslim.

What made you make that statistic up?

It's indicative of the ridiculous hyperbole that surrounds Islam at the moment and you are a prime example of the thick idiot that perpetuates this nonsense.

Your quote - "Islam? f*cking backwards culture, terrorists and rapists" says it all really.

I despair at the level of fuckwittery on this board.

But does the EDL or even the BNP kill people ? Sorry but these Muslim or Islam extremists kills tens of thousands. How on earth do they begin to compare ?

I wouldn't necessarily disagree with you but your concentrating on actions not ideology. Muslim extremists are capable of killing people we've seen it on our own streets. If you compare the troubles in norther Ireland to the BNP a d the EDL. Sinn Fein is the BNP and the EDL is the IRA. Sinn Fein being the political voice the IRA your boots on the ground or to make a better reference in the early days of the nazi party and their brown shirts. Neither the EDL or Muslim extremists are right but their ideogies are very similar and the way they behave are just sing from different hymn sheets. Neither speak for the majority of either community

But does the EDL or even the BNP kill people ? Sorry but these Muslim or Islam extremists kills tens of thousands. How on earth do they begin to compare ?

I wouldn't necessarily disagree with you but your concentrating on actions not ideology. Muslim extremists are capable of killing people we've seen it on our own streets. If you compare the troubles in norther Ireland to the BNP a d the EDL. Sinn Fein is the BNP and the EDL is the IRA. Sinn Fein being the political voice the IRA your boots on the ground or to make a better reference in the early days of the nazi party and their brown shirts. Neither the EDL or Muslim extremists are right but their ideogies are very similar and the way they behave are just sing from different hymn sheets. Neither speak for the majority of either community

No but the EDL uses it as a piss up a laugh and a political point. The other (extremists) just uses mass murder. Which is the worst ? Sorry but to mention both in the same breath is so wrong.

But does the EDL or even the BNP kill people ? Sorry but these Muslim or Islam extremists kills tens of thousands. How on earth do they begin to compare ?

Yet you are comparing movements with individual lunatics.

By the same token and with appropriation to fairness you could mention EDL fans like Anders Breivik. That cuddly right winger was happy to top off a load of kids in the name of his particular form of extremism.

But what really makes me laugh is the title of the thread - the irony is amazing when you consider we live in a right wing state where the privileged top of the tree do all they can to make sure that the press continue to perpetuate any myth possible that keeps them in power and the proles onside.

But does the EDL or even the BNP kill people ? Sorry but these Muslim or Islam extremists kills tens of thousands. How on earth do they begin to compare ?

I wouldn't necessarily disagree with you but your concentrating on actions not ideology. Muslim extremists are capable of killing people we've seen it on our own streets. If you compare the troubles in norther Ireland to the BNP a d the EDL. Sinn Fein is the BNP and the EDL is the IRA. Sinn Fein being the political voice the IRA your boots on the ground or to make a better reference in the early days of the nazi party and their brown shirts. Neither the EDL or Muslim extremists are right but their ideogies are very similar and the way they behave are just sing from different hymn sheets. Neither speak for the majority of either community

No but the EDL uses it as a piss up a laugh and a political point. The other (extremists) just uses mass murder. Which is the worst ? Sorry but to mention both in the same breath is so wrong.

Anders Breivik used it for mass murder.

As did David Copeland and many others.

But does the EDL or even the BNP kill people ? Sorry but these Muslim or Islam extremists kills tens of thousands. How on earth do they begin to compare ?

I wouldn't necessarily disagree with you but your concentrating on actions not ideology. Muslim extremists are capable of killing people we've seen it on our own streets. If you compare the troubles in norther Ireland to the BNP a d the EDL. Sinn Fein is the BNP and the EDL is the IRA. Sinn Fein being the political voice the IRA your boots on the ground or to make a better reference in the early days of the nazi party and their brown shirts. Neither the EDL or Muslim extremists are right but their ideogies are very similar and the way they behave are just sing from different hymn sheets. Neither speak for the majority of either community

No but the EDL uses it as a piss up a laugh and a political point. The other (extremists) just uses mass murder. Which is the worst ? Sorry but to mention both in the same breath is so wrong.

Ah see but that's where I think I have a point. A laugh maybe. Excuse for a piss up probably. Like you've said they are their to make a political point. No different than what the IRA used to do. No different from what the brown shirts used to do. No different than what these Muslim extremists are doing. They all use different tactics rightly or wrongly but their end game is the same to make a political point.

But does the EDL or even the BNP kill people ? Sorry but these Muslim or Islam extremists kills tens of thousands. How on earth do they begin to compare ?

I wouldn't necessarily disagree with you but your concentrating on actions not ideology. Muslim extremists are capable of killing people we've seen it on our own streets. If you compare the troubles in norther Ireland to the BNP a d the EDL. Sinn Fein is the BNP and the EDL is the IRA. Sinn Fein being the political voice the IRA your boots on the ground or to make a better reference in the early days of the nazi party and their brown shirts. Neither the EDL or Muslim extremists are right but their ideogies are very similar and the way they behave are just sing from different hymn sheets. Neither speak for the majority of either community

the edl or bnp do not want the laws of the land ripped up to be replaced by the sheria law.they are not saying death to all infadels.not sure if the bnp and edl are one and the same at all.btw i vote/follow neither of them but to compare them to radical islamists is crazy.

But does the EDL or even the BNP kill people ? Sorry but these Muslim or Islam extremists kills tens of thousands. How on earth do they begin to compare ?

I wouldn't necessarily disagree with you but your concentrating on actions not ideology. Muslim extremists are capable of killing people we've seen it on our own streets. If you compare the troubles in norther Ireland to the BNP a d the EDL. Sinn Fein is the BNP and the EDL is the IRA. Sinn Fein being the political voice the IRA your boots on the ground or to make a better reference in the early days of the nazi party and their brown shirts. Neither the EDL or Muslim extremists are right but their ideogies are very similar and the way they behave are just sing from different hymn sheets. Neither speak for the majority of either community

the edl or bnp do not want the laws of the land ripped up to be replaced by the sheria law.they are not saying death to all infadels.not sure if the bnp and edl are one and the same at all.btw i vote/follow neither of them but to compare them to radical islamists is crazy.

Not really these Muslims are asking for sharia law yes. Now do they have a right to ask for sharia law to be installed in this country. YES. Do they have a right to go about making their point the way they do. NO. The EDL are asking for the status quo and insist that Muslims respect the culture of the people who live in this country. Do they have a right to ask for this. YES. Do they have a right to go about making their point the way they do. NO
So other than the difference in tactics they use. What is the real difference

But does the EDL or even the BNP kill people ? Sorry but these Muslim or Islam extremists kills tens of thousands. How on earth do they begin to compare ?

I wouldn't necessarily disagree with you but your concentrating on actions not ideology. Muslim extremists are capable of killing people we've seen it on our own streets. If you compare the troubles in norther Ireland to the BNP a d the EDL. Sinn Fein is the BNP and the EDL is the IRA. Sinn Fein being the political voice the IRA your boots on the ground or to make a better reference in the early days of the nazi party and their brown shirts. Neither the EDL or Muslim extremists are right but their ideogies are very similar and the way they behave are just sing from different hymn sheets. Neither speak for the majority of either community

No but the EDL uses it as a piss up a laugh and a political point. The other (extremists) just uses mass murder. Which is the worst ? Sorry but to mention both in the same breath is so wrong.

Ah see but that's where I think I have a point. A laugh maybe. Excuse for a piss up probably. Like you've said they are their to make a political point. No different than what the IRA used to do. No different from what the brown shirts used to do. No different than what these Muslim extremists are doing. They all use different tactics rightly or wrongly but their end game is the same to make a political point.

How can anyone compare the EDL to the IRA or Muslim extremists.

But does the EDL or even the BNP kill people ? Sorry but these Muslim or Islam extremists kills tens of thousands. How on earth do they begin to compare ?

I wouldn't necessarily disagree with you but your concentrating on actions not ideology. Muslim extremists are capable of killing people we've seen it on our own streets. If you compare the troubles in norther Ireland to the BNP a d the EDL. Sinn Fein is the BNP and the EDL is the IRA. Sinn Fein being the political voice the IRA your boots on the ground or to make a better reference in the early days of the nazi party and their brown shirts. Neither the EDL or Muslim extremists are right but their ideogies are very similar and the way they behave are just sing from different hymn sheets. Neither speak for the majority of either community

the edl or bnp do not want the laws of the land ripped up to be replaced by the sheria law.they are not saying death to all infadels.not sure if the bnp and edl are one and the same at all.btw i vote/follow neither of them but to compare them to radical islamists is crazy.

Not really these Muslims are asking for sharia law yes. Now do they have a right to ask for sharia law to be installed in this country. YES. Do they have a right to go about making their point the way they do. NO. The EDL are asking for the status quo and insist that Muslims respect the culture of the people who live in this country. Do they have a right to ask for this. YES. Do they have a right to go about making their point the way they do. NO
So other than the difference in tactics they use. What is the real difference

the e.d.l are a reactionary movement.no islamic radicals =no e.d.l.i notice the sieks and blacks in the e.d.l feel safe enough amongst there midst.the e.d.l have every right to protest against the radical islamists.personally i think every brit who thinks hate preaching by islamic clerics is ok and just an opinion should go and live in a street full of em.i will never attack tommy robinson cos thankfully my town hasn,t been overrun with hate preachers and the streets turned into downtown karrachi.tommy robinson town has.

But does the EDL or even the BNP kill people ? Sorry but these Muslim or Islam extremists kills tens of thousands. How on earth do they begin to compare ?

I wouldn't necessarily disagree with you but your concentrating on actions not ideology. Muslim extremists are capable of killing people we've seen it on our own streets. If you compare the troubles in norther Ireland to the BNP a d the EDL. Sinn Fein is the BNP and the EDL is the IRA. Sinn Fein being the political voice the IRA your boots on the ground or to make a better reference in the early days of the nazi party and their brown shirts. Neither the EDL or Muslim extremists are right but their ideogies are very similar and the way they behave are just sing from different hymn sheets. Neither speak for the majority of either community

the edl or bnp do not want the laws of the land ripped up to be replaced by the sheria law.they are not saying death to all infadels.not sure if the bnp and edl are one and the same at all.btw i vote/follow neither of them but to compare them to radical islamists is crazy.

Not really these Muslims are asking for sharia law yes. Now do they have a right to ask for sharia law to be installed in this country. YES. Do they have a right to go about making their point the way they do. NO. The EDL are asking for the status quo and insist that Muslims respect the culture of the people who live in this country. Do they have a right to ask for this. YES. Do they have a right to go about making their point the way they do. NO
So other than the difference in tactics they use. What is the real difference

the e.d.l are a reactionary movement.no islamic radicals =no e.d.l.i notice the sieks and blacks in the e.d.l feel safe enough amongst there midst.the e.d.l have every right to protest against the radical islamists.personally i think every brit who thinks hate preaching by islamic clerics is ok and just an opinion should go and live in a street full of em.i will never attack tommy robinson cos thankfully my town hasn,t been overrun with hate preachers and the streets turned into downtown karrachi.tommy robinson town has.

But are Sikhs or Christian black communities asking for sharia law? Would a Muslim who disagrees with Islamic extremism be safe within the ranks of the EDL from what I've seen I would have to say no. That to me says they have an issue with Islam not extremism. I don't think that's right neither do I think what Muslim extremists are doing is right. It's just the way I see it.

Apologist, kumbaya-singing fucks like some of the people in this thread are the reason the population of the UK is slowly but surely dumbing itself down.



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But does the EDL or even the BNP kill people ? Sorry but these Muslim or Islam extremists kills tens of thousands. How on earth do they begin to compare ?

I wouldn't necessarily disagree with you but your concentrating on actions not ideology. Muslim extremists are capable of killing people we've seen it on our own streets. If you compare the troubles in norther Ireland to the BNP a d the EDL. Sinn Fein is the BNP and the EDL is the IRA. Sinn Fein being the political voice the IRA your boots on the ground or to make a better reference in the early days of the nazi party and their brown shirts. Neither the EDL or Muslim extremists are right but their ideogies are very similar and the way they behave are just sing from different hymn sheets. Neither speak for the majority of either community

the edl or bnp do not want the laws of the land ripped up to be replaced by the sheria law.they are not saying death to all infadels.not sure if the bnp and edl are one and the same at all.btw i vote/follow neither of them but to compare them to radical islamists is crazy.

Not really these Muslims are asking for sharia law yes. Now do they have a right to ask for sharia law to be installed in this country. YES. Do they have a right to go about making their point the way they do. NO. The EDL are asking for the status quo and insist that Muslims respect the culture of the people who live in this country. Do they have a right to ask for this. YES. Do they have a right to go about making their point the way they do. NO
So other than the difference in tactics they use. What is the real difference

the e.d.l are a reactionary movement.no islamic radicals =no e.d.l.i notice the sieks and blacks in the e.d.l feel safe enough amongst there midst.the e.d.l have every right to protest against the radical islamists.personally i think every brit who thinks hate preaching by islamic clerics is ok and just an opinion should go and live in a street full of em.i will never attack tommy robinson cos thankfully my town hasn,t been overrun with hate preachers and the streets turned into downtown karrachi.tommy robinson town has.

Tommy Robinson is a coward who does it for the notoriety and the status. Only in this country could suh a low rent indicidual be held up in high regard by anyone.

As for Tommy he doesn't limit his hatred for Islam. He famously led his group of knuckleheads to try and attack 20 odd Newport supporters in Luton a couple of years ago, calling them Welsh sheepshaggers and the like. Unfortunately for Tommy and his gang of about 50 MIGS, they picked on the wrong group of Newport supporters and got battered. Tommy was seen running away whilst his mates who stood got a pummeling.

What a leader!

But does the EDL or even the BNP kill people ? Sorry but these Muslim or Islam extremists kills tens of thousands. How on earth do they begin to compare ?

I wouldn't necessarily disagree with you but your concentrating on actions not ideology. Muslim extremists are capable of killing people we've seen it on our own streets. If you compare the troubles in norther Ireland to the BNP a d the EDL. Sinn Fein is the BNP and the EDL is the IRA. Sinn Fein being the political voice the IRA your boots on the ground or to make a better reference in the early days of the nazi party and their brown shirts. Neither the EDL or Muslim extremists are right but their ideogies are very similar and the way they behave are just sing from different hymn sheets. Neither speak for the majority of either community

the edl or bnp do not want the laws of the land ripped up to be replaced by the sheria law.they are not saying death to all infadels.not sure if the bnp and edl are one and the same at all.btw i vote/follow neither of them but to compare them to radical islamists is crazy.

Not really these Muslims are asking for sharia law yes. Now do they have a right to ask for sharia law to be installed in this country. YES. Do they have a right to go about making their point the way they do. NO. The EDL are asking for the status quo and insist that Muslims respect the culture of the people who live in this country. Do they have a right to ask for this. YES. Do they have a right to go about making their point the way they do. NO
So other than the difference in tactics they use. What is the real difference

the e.d.l are a reactionary movement.no islamic radicals =no e.d.l.i notice the sieks and blacks in the e.d.l feel safe enough amongst there midst.the e.d.l have every right to protest against the radical islamists.personally i think every brit who thinks hate preaching by islamic clerics is ok and just an opinion should go and live in a street full of em.i will never attack tommy robinson cos thankfully my town hasn,t been overrun with hate preachers and the streets turned into downtown karrachi.tommy robinson town has.

But are Sikhs or Christian black communities asking for sharia law? Would a Muslim who disagrees with Islamic extremism be safe within the ranks of the EDL from what I've seen I would have to say no. That to me says they have an issue with Islam not extremism. I don't think that's right neither do I think what Muslim extremists are doing is right. It's just the way I see it.

i heard there was a lad in the brum e.d.l who had a muslim father but wasn,t a practicing muslim .i get your point about would a moderate muslim be welcomed into the e.d.l?well if he is against extremism and sheria law then he should be.most muslims are peaceful enough in the uk.kick the radicals out and it would be better for ALL in this green and pleasant land.that would lead to no e.d.l and if a proper immergration policy was used by a government then the b.n.p would be of little significence.sorted like i say i never voted b.n.p or gone on e.d.l marches but i can see why people are looking towards them.mainstream politics have done most people in.

i spoke with an iman about extremism amongst their ranks.i said boot em out.the chap agreed.i go into a jail for a 12 step grp and the iman and christian faith leaders are a credit to the human race.they work tirelessly together.

But does the EDL or even the BNP kill people ? Sorry but these Muslim or Islam extremists kills tens of thousands. How on earth do they begin to compare ?

I wouldn't necessarily disagree with you but your concentrating on actions not ideology. Muslim extremists are capable of killing people we've seen it on our own streets. If you compare the troubles in norther Ireland to the BNP a d the EDL. Sinn Fein is the BNP and the EDL is the IRA. Sinn Fein being the political voice the IRA your boots on the ground or to make a better reference in the early days of the nazi party and their brown shirts. Neither the EDL or Muslim extremists are right but their ideogies are very similar and the way they behave are just sing from different hymn sheets. Neither speak for the majority of either community

the edl or bnp do not want the laws of the land ripped up to be replaced by the sheria law.they are not saying death to all infadels.not sure if the bnp and edl are one and the same at all.btw i vote/follow neither of them but to compare them to radical islamists is crazy.

Not really these Muslims are asking for sharia law yes. Now do they have a right to ask for sharia law to be installed in this country. YES. Do they have a right to go about making their point the way they do. NO. The EDL are asking for the status quo and insist that Muslims respect the culture of the people who live in this country. Do they have a right to ask for this. YES. Do they have a right to go about making their point the way they do. NO
So other than the difference in tactics they use. What is the real difference

the e.d.l are a reactionary movement.no islamic radicals =no e.d.l.i notice the sieks and blacks in the e.d.l feel safe enough amongst there midst.the e.d.l have every right to protest against the radical islamists.personally i think every brit who thinks hate preaching by islamic clerics is ok and just an opinion should go and live in a street full of em.i will never attack tommy robinson cos thankfully my town hasn,t been overrun with hate preachers and the streets turned into downtown karrachi.tommy robinson town has.

Tommy Robinson is a coward who does it for the notoriety and the status. Only in this country could suh a low rent indicidual be held up in high regard by anyone.

As for Tommy he doesn't limit his hatred for Islam. He famously led his group of knuckleheads to try and attack 20 odd Newport supporters in Luton a couple of years ago, calling them Welsh sheepshaggers and the like. Unfortunately for Tommy and his gang of about 50 MIGS, they picked on the wrong group of Newport supporters and got battered. Tommy was seen running away whilst his mates who stood got a pummeling.

What a leader!

Right but sorry if i offend but what you are trying to get at is utter Bollocks. Yes Tommy Robinson is a Lad and yes a football hooligan. But there are plenty on this board that have got into a bit of bother. So what pal. Islamic fanatics are out to kill all non believers and until you get that you just ain't getting the point. When did some Football lads go out to kill or kill Women and Children in some draconian name ? You seem to have your head in the sand in the name of left wing liberalism. I don't follow the EDL or BNP but some think that these extremists are harmless. And Sharia Law it is here already and the authorities turn a blind eye to it. We fight it abroad and let it happen on our own land and for that i blame our present Government and past.

Extremism here in Great Britain is allowed to thrive and that is a fact. More and more younger Muslims are now following this coarse. It is a problem and until that is tackled forget danger from the middle east its what we are raising in our own Country that is the Problem and believe me it will within the next 15 years unless it is tackled unrelentlessly

the press work to Government orders and to their own socialist agenda

The immigrant riots in Sweden are not in the news and the Turkish uprising against eth strict Islamic government is being reported as a riot about a park and Trees -- scared Islam or scared of the leftist marxist elite who control the country

The leftist marxist elite who run the country?

I am really baffled by some people at times.

ACTING UNDER ORDERS from govermentYOU THINK? two british soldiers main sky story fined for verbal abusing of
Afghans. Dont get me wrong, punish them, they were in the wrong but yet not one f*cking mention of this c**t today? :

http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/ne ... lfire.html

He won't be arrested as he's allowed to say what he likes and the government don't won't to upset Muslims and minoritys but couldn't give a shit about the majority.

I've said before and I'll say it again, Under the last Government (Labour) then they made it law that insulting Islam is an criminal offence whereas Muslims can say what they like without arrest. Why have so many Twitter users been arrested for remarks against muslims but this vile vermin gets away with it time time again?

If I was to stand up and say what this vile cnnut says then my feet wouldn't touch the floor.

Very true my friend.

The problem is Choudary knows exactly how to manipulate freedom of speech laws. If he makes his rants in Arabic then he can almost say what he likes as the law says the offensive remarks have to be made within earshot of someone who would find them offensive or feel distressed.

Even if he says them in English, providing he is preaching to the converted he can again get away with it.

Believe it or not the most famous testing of this law came from Nick Griffin and the BNP a couple of years ago. Griffin was secretly taped by Panorama saying that "Asian's would do for your families"

In the resulting court case NG was found 'not guilty' because he was found to be "preaching to the converted"

Probably a review of the law is required, but unfortunately that would upset the Liberal lobby.

Not only did Griffin say it behind closed doors but in actual fact said it in public as I saw it and he said that Asian gangs were going round gang raping white school girls and the police were turning a blind eye.

Panorama confirmed what Nick Griffin had said was true as they were doing and undercover research and would broadcast their program on Tuesday before the 2008 election but Labour blocked it as they were scared of losing votes so the show was never aired.

It wasn't till Labour lost power that all these Muslim rape gangs have come into the public domain as Labour f*cking love diversity and integration and mulit cultisisum that they wanted the british public to think their Ideology is working but to be honest it has been a f*cking nightmare. Islam? f*cking backwards culture, terrorists and rapists.

Prison population?

A 3rd are Muslim.

What made you make that statistic up?

It's indicative of the ridiculous hyperbole that surrounds Islam at the moment and you are a prime example of the thick idiot that perpetuates this nonsense.

Your quote - "Islam? f*cking backwards culture, terrorists and rapists" says it all really.

I despair at the level of fuckwittery on this board.

Another case of a muslim gang grooming young kids

What vile scum they are

http://www.standard.co.uk/news/crime/ch ... 44315.html


Or is it all made up /conspiracy southwalian ?

Given that the Jews control the media it should come as no surprise that there is a strong bias in reporting.

96% of the media corporations around the world are owned by Jews or Jewish families. Even BSkyB is owned by Murdoch, who has Jewish roots.

https://twitter.com/rupertmurdoch/statu ... 6753102849

Even Murdoch admits it.

Tells me everything I need to know.

ACTING UNDER ORDERS from govermentYOU THINK? two british soldiers main sky story fined for verbal abusing of
Afghans. Dont get me wrong, punish them, they were in the wrong but yet not one f*cking mention of this c**t today? :

http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/ne ... lfire.html

Be careful you will upset some of the multiculturists on here

Are you getting multiculturalism and extremism mixed up?

I'm Multiculturist(?), but I just as much as anyone else here would happily see Choudary and his kind hung drawn and quartered. Multiculturalism doesn't come into it.

ACTING UNDER ORDERS from govermentYOU THINK? two british soldiers main sky story fined for verbal abusing of
Afghans. Dont get me wrong, punish them, they were in the wrong but yet not one f*cking mention of this c**t today? :

http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/ne ... lfire.html

He won't be arrested as he's allowed to say what he likes and the government don't won't to upset Muslims and minoritys but couldn't give a shit about the majority.

I've said before and I'll say it again, Under the last Government (Labour) then they made it law that insulting Islam is an criminal offence whereas Muslims can say what they like without arrest. Why have so many Twitter users been arrested for remarks against muslims but this vile vermin gets away with it time time again?

If I was to stand up and say what this vile cnnut says then my feet wouldn't touch the floor.

Very true my friend.

The problem is Choudary knows exactly how to manipulate freedom of speech laws. If he makes his rants in Arabic then he can almost say what he likes as the law says the offensive remarks have to be made within earshot of someone who would find them offensive or feel distressed.

Even if he says them in English, providing he is preaching to the converted he can again get away with it.

Believe it or not the most famous testing of this law came from Nick Griffin and the BNP a couple of years ago. Griffin was secretly taped by Panorama saying that "Asian's would do for your families"

In the resulting court case NG was found 'not guilty' because he was found to be "preaching to the converted"

Probably a review of the law is required, but unfortunately that would upset the Liberal lobby.

Not only did Griffin say it behind closed doors but in actual fact said it in public as I saw it and he said that Asian gangs were going round gang raping white school girls and the police were turning a blind eye.

Panorama confirmed what Nick Griffin had said was true as they were doing and undercover research and would broadcast their program on Tuesday before the 2008 election but Labour blocked it as they were scared of losing votes so the show was never aired.

It wasn't till Labour lost power that all these Muslim rape gangs have come into the public domain as Labour f*cking love diversity and integration and mulit cultisisum that they wanted the british public to think their Ideology is working but to be honest it has been a f*cking nightmare. Islam? f*cking backwards culture, terrorists and rapists.

Prison population?

A 3rd are Muslim.

What made you make that statistic up?

It's indicative of the ridiculous hyperbole that surrounds Islam at the moment and you are a prime example of the thick idiot that perpetuates this nonsense.

Your quote - "Islam? f*cking backwards culture, terrorists and rapists" says it all really.

I despair at the level of fuckwittery on this board.

hey fuckwit. explain why there r hundreds of muslim youths on the streets at the first sniff of the BNP but they never ever
not once have attacked anjem choudry. go on. dazzle us with yr intelligence. who is the biggest extremist? Griffin for wanting
blacks and asian to ''go home'' or Choudry for wanting anyone who does not follow his religion to die.