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Re: VINCENT TANS LUCKY RED QUOTE

Tue Jun 04, 2013 7:28 pm

Malky Is My God wrote:
JonCCFC wrote:
Jinks wrote:
JonCCFC wrote:Yes. I've seen enough interviews with Tan to know that he's that stupid.


Stupid in what way running a business?? If you think Tan is stupid in that way then there's no hope for you

In his beliefs.

"The bluebird was frightened by other symbols and needs to be protected by the dragon"; if you don't think that's ridiculous then there's no hope for you.


What proof do you have that it is not true?

You don't need proof to realise that it's complete bullshit

Re: VINCENT TANS LUCKY RED QUOTE

Tue Jun 04, 2013 7:29 pm

mjw6150 wrote:
JonCCFC wrote:Yes. I've seen enough interviews with Tan to know that he's that stupid.


Let us know when you become a billionaire.

Why's that? I just answered a question.

Re: VINCENT TANS LUCKY RED QUOTE

Tue Jun 04, 2013 7:35 pm

Yes he think its lucky but he isn't dull enough to think its all about luck, it's obviously business related imo

Re: VINCENT TANS LUCKY RED QUOTE

Tue Jun 04, 2013 7:41 pm

cakey-8t7 wrote:Yes he think its lucky but he isn't dull enough to think its all about luck, it's obviously business related imo

Going by his comments he does, the mans a loon

Re: VINCENT TANS LUCKY RED QUOTE

Tue Jun 04, 2013 7:43 pm

cakey-8t7 wrote:Yes he think its lucky but he isn't dull enough to think its all about luck, it's obviously business related imo

The rebrand has done nothing business related other than cause a lot of controversy and attention from fans and the media.

Re: VINCENT TANS LUCKY RED QUOTE

Tue Jun 04, 2013 8:09 pm

JonCCFC wrote:
cakey-8t7 wrote:Yes he think its lucky but he isn't dull enough to think its all about luck, it's obviously business related imo

The rebrand has done nothing business related other than cause a lot of controversy and attention from fans and the media.


And you know 100% that it wasn't done as part of a business plan then?

Re: VINCENT TANS LUCKY RED QUOTE

Tue Jun 04, 2013 8:10 pm

darran1927 wrote:
cakey-8t7 wrote:Yes he think its lucky but he isn't dull enough to think its all about luck, it's obviously business related imo

Going by his comments he does, the mans a loon


He might be a loon as you say, but he knows how to make money

Re: VINCENT TANS LUCKY RED QUOTE

Tue Jun 04, 2013 8:14 pm

Jinks wrote:
JonCCFC wrote:
cakey-8t7 wrote:Yes he think its lucky but he isn't dull enough to think its all about luck, it's obviously business related imo

The rebrand has done nothing business related other than cause a lot of controversy and attention from fans and the media.


And you know 100% that it wasn't done as part of a business plan then?

A stupid business plan.

Re: VINCENT TANS LUCKY RED QUOTE

Tue Jun 04, 2013 8:16 pm

JonCCFC wrote:
cakey-8t7 wrote:Yes he think its lucky but he isn't dull enough to think its all about luck, it's obviously business related imo

The rebrand has done nothing business related other than cause a lot of controversy and attention from fans and the media.


Why do you think he is so wealthy, Tan is not going to do all this without a some sort of business plan :roll:

Re: VINCENT TANS LUCKY RED QUOTE

Tue Jun 04, 2013 8:16 pm

Pontyclun Blue wrote:
darran1927 wrote:
cakey-8t7 wrote:Yes he think its lucky but he isn't dull enough to think its all about luck, it's obviously business related imo

Going by his comments he does, the mans a loon


He might be a loon as you say, but he knows how to make money

He does know how to make money , I'm not denying that(allthough with a football club is questinable when you take away the colour that all the locals want , and refuse to listen to what we do want) , his comments about symbols being stronger than other symbols,red is lucky is clearly spouting bullshit (loon)

Re: VINCENT TANS LUCKY RED QUOTE

Tue Jun 04, 2013 8:18 pm

Jinks wrote:
JonCCFC wrote:
cakey-8t7 wrote:Yes he think its lucky but he isn't dull enough to think its all about luck, it's obviously business related imo

The rebrand has done nothing business related other than cause a lot of controversy and attention from fans and the media.


And you know 100% that it wasn't done as part of a business plan then?


What business plan? There never was one. The club admitted that in the original meetings with the fans.

Re: VINCENT TANS LUCKY RED QUOTE

Tue Jun 04, 2013 8:25 pm

Barry Chuckle wrote:
Jinks wrote:
JonCCFC wrote:
cakey-8t7 wrote:Yes he think its lucky but he isn't dull enough to think its all about luck, it's obviously business related imo

The rebrand has done nothing business related other than cause a lot of controversy and attention from fans and the media.


And you know 100% that it wasn't done as part of a business plan then?


What business plan? There never was one. The club admitted that in the original meetings with the fans.


Tan will have a business plan regardless of what was said in meetings..

Re: VINCENT TANS LUCKY RED QUOTE

Tue Jun 04, 2013 8:27 pm

Club lied to supporters AGAIN?

Sock, horror. :lol:

Re: VINCENT TANS LUCKY RED QUOTE

Tue Jun 04, 2013 8:27 pm

Pontyclun Blue wrote:
JonCCFC wrote:
cakey-8t7 wrote:Yes he think its lucky but he isn't dull enough to think its all about luck, it's obviously business related imo

The rebrand has done nothing business related other than cause a lot of controversy and attention from fans and the media.


Why do you think he is so wealthy, Tan is not going to do all this without a some sort of business plan :roll:

He may have a business plan involved with the rebrand, but it's a stupid business plan. Everyone should know that.

Re: VINCENT TANS LUCKY RED QUOTE

Tue Jun 04, 2013 8:28 pm

JonCCFC wrote:
Jinks wrote:
JonCCFC wrote:
cakey-8t7 wrote:Yes he think its lucky but he isn't dull enough to think its all about luck, it's obviously business related imo

The rebrand has done nothing business related other than cause a lot of controversy and attention from fans and the media.


And you know 100% that it wasn't done as part of a business plan then?

A stupid business plan.


So your admitting you think that he has one?

Re: VINCENT TANS LUCKY RED QUOTE

Tue Jun 04, 2013 8:34 pm

Lads, his comments on dragons, Bluebirds and symbols just emphasises our cultural diffrences. If you cant see that your either looking for an excuse to hate, young or arrogant!

Re: VINCENT TANS LUCKY RED QUOTE

Tue Jun 04, 2013 8:37 pm

Gavin wrote:Lads, his comments on dragons, Bluebirds and symbols just emphasises our cultural diffrences. If you cant see that your either looking for an excuse to hate, young or arrogant!


Maybe so, but he disrespected our traditions/football culture, so why should we respect his? :malky:

Re: VINCENT TANS LUCKY RED QUOTE

Tue Jun 04, 2013 8:38 pm

Jinks wrote:
JonCCFC wrote:
Jinks wrote:
JonCCFC wrote:
cakey-8t7 wrote:Yes he think its lucky but he isn't dull enough to think its all about luck, it's obviously business related imo

The rebrand has done nothing business related other than cause a lot of controversy and attention from fans and the media.


And you know 100% that it wasn't done as part of a business plan then?

A stupid business plan.


So your admitting you think that he has one?



Jinks I think it's called back tracking, one min he hasn't got one and the next he might have one :roll:

Re: VINCENT TANS LUCKY RED QUOTE

Tue Jun 04, 2013 8:55 pm

JonCCFC wrote:
Pontyclun Blue wrote:
JonCCFC wrote:
cakey-8t7 wrote:Yes he think its lucky but he isn't dull enough to think its all about luck, it's obviously business related imo

The rebrand has done nothing business related other than cause a lot of controversy and attention from fans and the media.


Why do you think he is so wealthy, Tan is not going to do all this without a some sort of business plan :roll:

He may have a business plan involved with the rebrand, but it's a stupid business plan. Everyone should know that.



Jon, sensible question: "What if it (Tan's plan) works?"

don't doubt he will HAVE a plan, no matter what he says otherwise. He is a VERY shrewd cookie ;) :ayatollah:

Re: VINCENT TANS LUCKY RED QUOTE

Tue Jun 04, 2013 8:58 pm

For me, exactly the same plan could have been carried out in blue. No other reason for rebrand for me other than it's "lucky" and his favourite colour.

Re: VINCENT TANS LUCKY RED QUOTE

Tue Jun 04, 2013 9:00 pm

Pontyclun Blue wrote:
Jinks wrote:
JonCCFC wrote:
Jinks wrote:
JonCCFC wrote:
cakey-8t7 wrote:Yes he think its lucky but he isn't dull enough to think its all about luck, it's obviously business related imo

The rebrand has done nothing business related other than cause a lot of controversy and attention from fans and the media.


And you know 100% that it wasn't done as part of a business plan then?

A stupid business plan.


So your admitting you think that he has one?



Jinks I think it's called back tracking, one min he hasn't got one and the next he might have one :roll:


Jonccfc is trying to be like chuckles but failing badly :laughing6: :laughing6:

Re: VINCENT TANS LUCKY RED QUOTE

Tue Jun 04, 2013 9:18 pm

Jinks I think it's called back tracking, one min he hasn't got one and the next he might have one :roll:[/quote]

Jonccfc is trying to be like chuckles but failing badly :laughing6: :laughing6:[/quote]

:lol: :lol: :laughing6:

Re: VINCENT TANS LUCKY RED QUOTE

Tue Jun 04, 2013 9:21 pm

Jinks wrote:
JonCCFC wrote:
Jinks wrote:
JonCCFC wrote:
cakey-8t7 wrote:Yes he think its lucky but he isn't dull enough to think its all about luck, it's obviously business related imo

The rebrand has done nothing business related other than cause a lot of controversy and attention from fans and the media.


And you know 100% that it wasn't done as part of a business plan then?

A stupid business plan.


So your admitting you think that he has one?

Where did I say he didn't have one? :lol:

Re: VINCENT TANS LUCKY RED QUOTE

Tue Jun 04, 2013 9:22 pm

Jinks wrote:Jonccfc is trying to be like chuckles but failing badly :laughing6: :laughing6:

Hardly trying to be like Chuckles, we just have very similar opinions :ayatollah:

But please carry on fishing. :lol:

Re: VINCENT TANS LUCKY RED QUOTE

Tue Jun 04, 2013 9:23 pm

Sven Ghali wrote:
JonCCFC wrote:
Pontyclun Blue wrote:
JonCCFC wrote:
cakey-8t7 wrote:Yes he think its lucky but he isn't dull enough to think its all about luck, it's obviously business related imo

The rebrand has done nothing business related other than cause a lot of controversy and attention from fans and the media.


Why do you think he is so wealthy, Tan is not going to do all this without a some sort of business plan :roll:

He may have a business plan involved with the rebrand, but it's a stupid business plan. Everyone should know that.



Jon, sensible question: "What if it (Tan's plan) works?"

don't doubt he will HAVE a plan, no matter what he says otherwise. He is a VERY shrewd cookie ;) :ayatollah:

What IS his plan? And I'm talking about a plan which only involves the rebrand (something that couldn't be done if we didn't rebrand).

Re: VINCENT TANS LUCKY RED QUOTE

Tue Jun 04, 2013 9:33 pm

if he is still losing 1.2m a month at the ccs?

Re: VINCENT TANS LUCKY RED QUOTE

Tue Jun 04, 2013 9:36 pm

Gavin wrote:No, its all about increasing our appeal to his target investors




By default by 'using' the lucky red theory then, Gav?? :ayatollah:

Re: VINCENT TANS LUCKY RED QUOTE

Tue Jun 04, 2013 9:41 pm

Gavin wrote:Lads, his comments on dragons, Bluebirds and symbols just emphasises our cultural diffrences. If you cant see that your either looking for an excuse to hate, young or arrogant!


Amen :notworthy: :notworthy: :notworthy:

Ignorance is bliss Gav.

If it didn't mean something then China's streets would not be covered in red and yellow everywhere. If the appeal is enough to convince an investor to get on board because of his beliefs then happy days.

Re: VINCENT TANS LUCKY RED QUOTE

Tue Jun 04, 2013 9:50 pm

It's all do do with the ancient art of "Feng shui" a lot of top companies and celebrities use it. Including Coca Cola, McDonalds, Donald Trump, Bill Gates and Richard Branson. If you think changing to red for luck is mad have a look at some of the things these people/companies have done just to bring them better luck and business. E.g hiring feng shui masters because they were losing Asian clients. Moving the gates of Disney land(Hong Kong) 12 degrees after consulting a feng shui master. Totally crazy :)

http://voices.yahoo.com/feng-shui-famou ... 91538.html

http://www.nytimes.com/2005/04/24/busin ... d=all&_r=0

http://www.nytimes.com/2005/04/24/busin ... d=all&_r=0

Re: VINCENT TANS LUCKY RED QUOTE

Tue Jun 04, 2013 10:08 pm

JonCCFC wrote:
Sven Ghali wrote:
JonCCFC wrote:
Pontyclun Blue wrote:
JonCCFC wrote:
cakey-8t7 wrote:Yes he think its lucky but he isn't dull enough to think its all about luck, it's obviously business related imo

The rebrand has done nothing business related other than cause a lot of controversy and attention from fans and the media.


Why do you think he is so wealthy, Tan is not going to do all this without a some sort of business plan :roll:

He may have a business plan involved with the rebrand, but it's a stupid business plan. Everyone should know that.



Jon, sensible question: "What if it (Tan's plan) works?"

don't doubt he will HAVE a plan, no matter what he says otherwise. He is a VERY shrewd cookie ;) :ayatollah:

What IS his plan? And I'm talking about a plan which only involves the rebrand (something that couldn't be done if we didn't rebrand).




Jon, I agree that no one (certainly not amongst us) appear to know but I cannot believe he doesn't have one at all and (given that I assume he has one) then he must believe in his own mind that it is the best option

I genuinely cannot believe that Tan would have taken such a huge step unless he believes what he is doing is best for the business. He won't have done it 'just to piss us off' as that would have no value at all

I may be wrong but it is why I am prepared to give him time to prove/disprove :ayatollah: