Tan and our club now taking the piss out of our fans

The fact they offered the fans the ability to change the red shorts is surely sign of good intentions? They could have changed it without any of the fans opinions, or not at all...

Not at all when I complained to the club last year about the rebrand and asked why the season ticket holder were not consulted, I got a response from Alan Whiteley stating that it would be impossible to do this ......12 months on following a backlash from the fans over our latest kit disaster we are allowed to vote on the shorts

There should be an option on the shirt colour too......but Emporer tan knows what the result will be

Feck me , we are going round in circles ...Lets recap
Investment = rebrand

Yesterday Tan was blamed for the red shorts and now it's a conspiracy for changing them. :lol

Reminder guys ... Your voting with your feet every time you step in the stadium

VT has nothing to do with kit selection aside from dictating the parameters.

The club has genuinely made a mistake here and is doing something positive towards making amends.

These conspiracy theories are laughable.

VT has nothing to do with kit selection aside from dictating the parameters.

The club has genuinely made a mistake here and is doing something positive towards making amends.

These conspiracy theories are laughable.

Have they offered us Blue and how come only 50% are only able to vote, see my other post.?

The fact they offered the fans the ability to change the red shorts is surely sign of good intentions? They could have changed it without any of the fans opinions, or not at all...

Sorry chap but you and many many others need to wake up.

I think the dinosaurs waiting for the kit turning back blue need to wake up

They are.

VT has nothing to do with kit selection aside from dictating the parameters.

The club has genuinely made a mistake here and is doing something positive towards making amends.

These conspiracy theories are laughable.

Have they offered us Blue and how come only 50% are only able to vote, see my other post.?

As I said, VT sets the parameters which sadly doesn't include blue.

The mistake was with the two toned red kit.

It's because a portion of our fans don't have e-mail addresses with the club. I think they feel the sample size they have will reflect the general consensus.

It's not perfect, granted.

They've got us now voting on the pathetic new kit, instead of us demanding our identity back.
Quite clever really as every time we start to rise up, they change something and pretend they have offered something, when In fact they have offered Jack Shit.

How gullibale are we?

Annis

I don't care how many people vote for white shorts we will end up with black because that's what's wanted. Unbelievable that our fans are voting for a kit they despised last season.
A very clever manoeuvre by tan as he has ended up with the kit he wanted and can claim he has listened to the fans.

Simple really Steve what's going on. Unbelievable to think some of us have fallen for this.

When are people going to realize that Tan is not some stupid foreigner but a very astute bloke who can run rings round most of us.

No one believes he is stupid.

VT has nothing to do with kit selection aside from dictating the parameters.

The club has genuinely made a mistake here and is doing something positive towards making amends.

These conspiracy theories are laughable.

Have they offered us Blue and how come only 50% are only able to vote, see my other post.?

As I said, VT sets the parameters which sadly doesn't include blue.

The mistake was with the two toned red kit.

It's because a portion of our fans don't have e-mail addresses with the club. I think they feel the sample size they have will reflect the general consensus.

It's not perfect, granted.

Yes and watch them exploit that as CHOSEN kit of the fans.

They've got us now voting on the pathetic new kit, instead of us demanding our identity back.
Quite clever really as every time we start to rise up, they change something and pretend they have offered something, when In fact they have offered Jack Shit.

How gullibale are we?

You say the word "NOW" in the title-but it's not "NOW"that he's taking the piss.He's been picking away at us for ages(we are just pawns in his plans)!!

The fact they offered the fans the ability to change the red shorts is surely sign of good intentions? They could have changed it without any of the fans opinions, or not at all...

Not at all when I complained to the club last year about the rebrand and asked why the season ticket holder were not consulted, I got a response from Alan Whiteley stating that it would be impossible to do this ......12 months on following a backlash from the fans over our latest kit disaster we are allowed to vote on the shorts

There should be an option on the shirt colour too......but Emporer tan knows what the result will be

very good point.they only consult when it suits their agenda.

VT has nothing to do with kit selection aside from dictating the parameters.

Arguably the most stupid comment I have ever read across all Cardiff City forums. Its like saying, Ford have nothing to do with making cars apart from making the Fiesta. I try not to comment in a horrible or rude way on this account but when you have posts as stupid as this its just impossible not to.

VT has nothing to do with kit selection aside from dictating the parameters.

The club has genuinely made a mistake here and is doing something positive towards making amends.

These conspiracy theories are laughable.

Have they offered us Blue and how come only 50% are only able to vote, see my other post.?

As I said, VT sets the parameters which sadly doesn't include blue.

The mistake was with the two toned red kit.

It's because a portion of our fans don't have e-mail addresses with the club. I think they feel the sample size they have will reflect the general consensus.

It's not perfect, granted.

Yes and watch them exploit that as CHOSEN kit of the fans.

We'll have to wait and see on that one.

VT has nothing to do with kit selection aside from dictating the parameters.

Arguably the most stupid comment I have ever read across all Cardiff City forums. Its like saying, Ford have nothing to do with making cars apart from making the Fiesta. I try not to comment in a horrible or rude way on this account but when you have posts as stupid as this its just impossible not to.

Do you think VT spends his time drawing up kit designs? Or wondering what colour shorts go best with a red shirt? He has several businesses to run and very little time.

He tells CCFC, 'I want the kit to be a red shirt with white, red or black trim' and the officials liase with Puma to work out the design of the kit.

I cannot believe you can have such little understanding of my post.

VT has nothing to do with kit selection aside from dictating the parameters.

Arguably the most stupid comment I have ever read across all Cardiff City forums. Its like saying, Ford have nothing to do with making cars apart from making the Fiesta. I try not to comment in a horrible or rude way on this account but when you have posts as stupid as this its just impossible not to.

Do you think VT spends his time drawing up kit designs? Or wondering what colour shorts go best with a red shirt? He has several businesses to run and very little time.

He tells CCFC, 'I want the kit to be a red shirt with white, red or black trim' and the officials liase with Puma to work out the design of the kit.

I cannot believe you can have such little understanding of my post.

I believe tan has stepped down from his director roles at most of his company's and pretty much retired . Most are now run by his son / family . He still has an involvement but very little now . He is concentrating on his charity work mainly these days .

The "Toto" Guy finally steps down at age of 60. Tan Sri Dato Vincent Tan, the founder Berjaya Corporation,which has grown to become a conglomerate of hotel, entertainement, shopping mall, automobile, telecommunication, retailing, education and many more.

He will be suceeded by Dato Robin Tan, his eldest son as Chairman/CEO and Rayvin Tan as Executive Director.

VT has nothing to do with kit selection aside from dictating the parameters.

Arguably the most stupid comment I have ever read across all Cardiff City forums. Its like saying, Ford have nothing to do with making cars apart from making the Fiesta. I try not to comment in a horrible or rude way on this account but when you have posts as stupid as this its just impossible not to.

Do you think VT spends his time drawing up kit designs? Or wondering what colour shorts go best with a red shirt? He has several businesses to run and very little time.

He tells CCFC, 'I want the kit to be a red shirt with white, red or black trim' and the officials liase with Puma to work out the design of the kit.

I cannot believe you can have such little understanding of my post.

I believe tan has stepped down from his director roles at most of his company's and pretty much retired . Most are now run by his son / family . He still has an involvement but very little now . He is concentrating on his charity work mainly these days .

The "Toto" Guy finally steps down at age of 60. Tan Sri Dato Vincent Tan, the founder Berjaya Corporation,which has grown to become a conglomerate of hotel, entertainement, shopping mall, automobile, telecommunication, retailing, education and many more.

He will be suceeded by Dato Robin Tan, his eldest son as Chairman/CEO and Rayvin Tan as Executive Director.

This is correct, and why tan has more time to f**k up our football club.

Doesn't he have a flat at CCS?

VT has nothing to do with kit selection aside from dictating the parameters.

The club has genuinely made a mistake here and is doing something positive towards making amends.

These conspiracy theories are laughable.

You seem to be talking with some authority here, Is that your opinion or are you in-the-know?

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Same ideas

VT has nothing to do with kit selection aside from dictating the parameters.

The club has genuinely made a mistake here and is doing something positive towards making amends.

These conspiracy theories are laughable.

You seem to be talking with some authority here, Is that your opinion or are you in-the-know?

I wouldn't want to say either way but I know that some are laughing at all this drama and people couldn't be further from the truth when they say it's a conspiracy.

VT has nothing to do with kit selection aside from dictating the parameters.

The club has genuinely made a mistake here and is doing something positive towards making amends.

These conspiracy theories are laughable.

You seem to be talking with some authority here, Is that your opinion or are you in-the-know?

I wouldn't want to say either way but I know that some are laughing at all this drama and people couldn't be further from the truth when they say it's a conspiracy.

Ah right, You're in-the-know then, but how much do your sources know? How far down the food chain is the Tan conspiracy known?

Could you(or anyone else) tell me who

a) designed the two tone kit & badge(which company)

b) who at the club signed it off as viable.

I'm not bothered by the two tone kit, it's not blue

VT has nothing to do with kit selection aside from dictating the parameters.

The club has genuinely made a mistake here and is doing something positive towards making amends.

These conspiracy theories are laughable.

Have they offered us Blue and how come only 50% are only able to vote, see my other post.?

As I said, VT sets the parameters which sadly doesn't include blue.

The mistake was with the two toned red kit.

It's because a portion of our fans don't have e-mail addresses with the club. I think they feel the sample size they have will reflect the general consensus.

It's not perfect, granted.

Yes and watch them exploit that as CHOSEN kit of the fans.

It's called 'politics' and Tan excels at it, mate

Even though we are now a premiership team, I feel that the cost of the rebrand is too much. Fans against Fans not what i imagined. Bring back our blue kit, we are the BLUEBIRDS.

I agree 100% here with you Annis....its a bloody joke.

Maybe that was the plan all along with those shorts....cause enough of a stir to get most people "wanting" it to be red and black, which in turn would give them the "vindication" they want.

Or am I being too synical?

They've got us now voting on the pathetic new kit, instead of us demanding our identity back.
Quite clever really as every time we start to rise up, they change something and pretend they have offered something, when In fact they have offered Jack Shit.

How gullibale are we?

If we are going to do something , we need to do it now well before the season starts, we have a blue away atm we need to protest to get it switched the longer we leave it the less chance there will be

I agree 100% here with you Annis....its a bloody joke.

Maybe that was the plan all along with those shorts....cause enough of a stir to get most people "wanting" it to be red and black, which in turn would give them the "vindication" they want.

Or am I being too synical?

It's 'cynical' mate and it's not a joke. For once, I believe the club have quickly reacted to criticism and decided (given that there is NO CHANCE of returning to blue for now at least) in an attempt to head off yet another barrage of abuse from the small number of intransigent fans who are currently trying to de-stabilise the club and its majority of 'on board' supporters who are now realising the dream of playing at the highest level

Personally, I can't fault them, as they are damned if they do and damned if they don't

As for 'feeling vindicated' I think you don't have any appreciation of Vincent Tan and the way he obviously works. If you did you would realise that he is as focused an individual as you are ever likely to meet and EVERYTHING he has done for (and some would argue 'to') Cardiff City FC since his arrival has been geared to making the club successful

He (Tan) is on a mission and will do whatever he feels it will take to move the club forward; even if that means a change of shirt colour to enhance his 'chances' in the Far Eastern Markets

Yes, there is a large amount of ego involved BUT no more than the previous two Chairmen (Sam and Riddler) and it could be argued that tan's input to date is many times more effective, as we are now in the Premier League

So far, he hasn't done so bad, has he? But I doubt you will see beyond the tired 'traditional blue' argument

When are people going to realize that Tan is not some stupid foreigner but a very astute bloke who can run rings round most of us.[/quote]

He is so astute that he cant even organise a decent kit. Mind you what do you expect from someone who wears a red trenchcoat so I am afraid yes he is a stupid foreigner.

VT has nothing to do with kit selection aside from dictating the parameters.

Arguably the most stupid comment I have ever read across all Cardiff City forums. Its like saying, Ford have nothing to do with making cars apart from making the Fiesta. I try not to comment in a horrible or rude way on this account but when you have posts as stupid as this its just impossible not to.

Do you think VT spends his time drawing up kit designs? Or wondering what colour shorts go best with a red shirt? He has several businesses to run and very little time.

He tells CCFC, 'I want the kit to be a red shirt with white, red or black trim' and the officials liase with Puma to work out the design of the kit.

I cannot believe you can have such little understanding of my post.

are you out your tree or wha? you jus answered yr own question. a football kit consist of shirt shorts and socks.
tan dont need to be there to choose designs if he says NO BLUE then he is masively involved in the kit

What's happened to the AFC CARDIFF CITY Bluebirds thing? Starting to interest me now....