Sad to read this from a fellow City fan

Are you saying that Tan wouldn't have any rich contacts? okay.

Neither of us knows what would happen, but to assume that we would close down, is wrong.

None of them have stepped forward so far, despite his desire to people to join with him in investing...

Given our history in the years before before June 2012, it is a extremely reasonable assumption.

He doesn't want any to invest now, as he is in sole control. He was going to IF we didn't agree to rebrand.

The whole point of the red is to attract major investment and support from the Asian area.

Do you actually believe that?!

It's quite obvious that this rebrand was because of one man's favourite colour & his love of make believe dragons.

Now this is the wrong assumption to make! Please find me evidence that he did it for those reasons. He may like red, he may like make believe dragons (would love to see a quote for that!)

Do you think a billionaire, savvy business such as Vincent Tan would make business decisions based on whims such as that?

Whilst I am sure VT cares for the club and enjoys being a part of it, this is about getting people to invest in his Premier League club asset and increase the value of the asset by giving it further success.

You say VT is so business savvy, why is there no actual business plan for this farcical rebrand then?

Watch his speech from the awards dinner, you'll see all about his dragons protecting the scared bluebird...

You say VT is so business savvy, why is there no actual business plan for this farcical rebrand then?

Watch his speech from the awards dinner, you'll see all about his dragons protecting the scared bluebird...

1. A man like VT would never invext £££s without a plan
2. Any investor worth his salt would never leak such information
3. In many ways you can see it through the Cardiff youth academies in Malaysia, the Cardiff City TV deal in Malaysia. Our presence over there is already slowly but surely increasing and Premier League football will do that mission a world of good.

You took that speech literally? He was trying to show how blue and red can work together in a very light hearted way.

Come on Chuckles, I am sure you are smarter than this.

You say VT is so business savvy, why is there no actual business plan for this farcical rebrand then?

Watch his speech from the awards dinner, you'll see all about his dragons protecting the scared bluebird...

1. A man like VT would never invext £££s without a plan
2. Any investor worth his salt would never leak such information
3. In many ways you can see it through the Cardiff youth academies in Malaysia, the Cardiff City TV deal in Malaysia. Our presence over there is already slowly but surely increasing and Premier League football will do that mission a world of good.

You took that speech literally? He was trying to show how blue and red can work together in a very light hearted way.

Come on Chuckles, I am sure you are smarter than this.

is that why, when pressed, the club told supporters that there was no plan for this.

Yes, I did. The man is clueless.

You say VT is so business savvy, why is there no actual business plan for this farcical rebrand then?

Watch his speech from the awards dinner, you'll see all about his dragons protecting the scared bluebird...

1. A man like VT would never invext £££s without a plan
2. Any investor worth his salt would never leak such information
3. In many ways you can see it through the Cardiff youth academies in Malaysia, the Cardiff City TV deal in Malaysia. Our presence over there is already slowly but surely increasing and Premier League football will do that mission a world of good.

You took that speech literally? He was trying to show how blue and red can work together in a very light hearted way.

Come on Chuckles, I am sure you are smarter than this.

is that why, when pressed, the club told supporters that there was no plan for this.

Yes, I did. The man is clueless.

Read point 2 again.

Oh dear...I wish I was as clueless to become a billionaire

You say VT is so business savvy, why is there no actual business plan for this farcical rebrand then?

Watch his speech from the awards dinner, you'll see all about his dragons protecting the scared bluebird...

1. A man like VT would never invext £££s without a plan
2. Any investor worth his salt would never leak such information
3. In many ways you can see it through the Cardiff youth academies in Malaysia, the Cardiff City TV deal in Malaysia. Our presence over there is already slowly but surely increasing and Premier League football will do that mission a world of good.

You took that speech literally? He was trying to show how blue and red can work together in a very light hearted way.

Come on Chuckles, I am sure you are smarter than this.

is that why, when pressed, the club told supporters that there was no plan for this.

Yes, I did. The man is clueless.

Read point 2 again.

Oh dear...I wish I was as clueless to become a billionaire

It's a pretty basic thing to do, showing a business plan - especially when making controversial decisions such as the horrific rebrand.

Of course, Tan is totally sensible, talking about protective dragons and scared bluebirds.

You say VT is so business savvy, why is there no actual business plan for this farcical rebrand then?

Watch his speech from the awards dinner, you'll see all about his dragons protecting the scared bluebird...

1. A man like VT would never invext £££s without a plan
2. Any investor worth his salt would never leak such information
3. In many ways you can see it through the Cardiff youth academies in Malaysia, the Cardiff City TV deal in Malaysia. Our presence over there is already slowly but surely increasing and Premier League football will do that mission a world of good.

You took that speech literally? He was trying to show how blue and red can work together in a very light hearted way.

Come on Chuckles, I am sure you are smarter than this.

is that why, when pressed, the club told supporters that there was no plan for this.

Yes, I did. The man is clueless.

Read point 2 again.

Oh dear...I wish I was as clueless to become a billionaire

It's a pretty basic thing to do, showing a business plan - especially when making controversial decisions such as the horrific rebrand.

Of course, Tan is totally sensible, talking about protective dragons and scared bluebirds.

Between you and Tan one of you is certainly clueless

I'm glad you can see sense.

The one who doesn't believe that inanimate objects can be scared of other things is the sensible one.

I'm glad you can see sense.

The one who doesn't believe that inanimate objects can be scared of other things is the sensible one.

Now you've opened a can of worms

Just because he hasnt shown you the plan chuckles, or anyone for that matter doesnt mean there isnt one. You are not the centre of the universe chuckles as much as you like to think you are.

When it comes to business who is clueless?
1. A self-made billionaire
2. Some nobody who names himself after a childrens tv character

Hmmmmmmmmm

Just because he hasnt shown you the plan chuckles, or anyone for that matter doesnt mean there isnt one. You are not the centre of the universe chuckles as much as you like to think you are.

When it comes to business who is clueless?
1. A self-made billionaire
2. Some nobody who names himself after a childrens tv character

Hmmmmmmmmm

So when the Gethin Jenkins said there isn't a business plan, it's rubbish, is it?!

Where have I claimed to be "the centre of the universe" then Craig? More uneducated rubbish from you

When it comes to football, who is clueless? Think we all know that one. The one who thinks the symbols are real and that we got promoted because we wore red.

Ill expect your death threat in due course.

Just because he hasnt shown you the plan chuckles, or anyone for that matter doesnt mean there isnt one. You are not the centre of the universe chuckles as much as you like to think you are.

When it comes to business who is clueless?
1. A self-made billionaire
2. Some nobody who names himself after a childrens tv character

Hmmmmmmmmm

So when the Gethin Jenkins said there isn't a business plan, it's rubbish, is it?!

Ill expect your death threat in due course.

I dont think enough of you to wish death on you.

Gethin Jenkins..........the one VT trusted so much he let him go, im sure Tan gives his plans out to people hes getting rid of

Just because he hasnt shown you the plan chuckles, or anyone for that matter doesnt mean there isnt one. You are not the centre of the universe chuckles as much as you like to think you are.

When it comes to business who is clueless?
1. A self-made billionaire
2. Some nobody who names himself after a childrens tv character

Hmmmmmmmmm

Whilst I felt you have had the strongest argument
I know feekl you have shot yourself in the foot
I'm now officially a swing voter and am going for Option B

Just because he hasnt shown you the plan chuckles, or anyone for that matter doesnt mean there isnt one. You are not the centre of the universe chuckles as much as you like to think you are.

When it comes to business who is clueless?
1. A self-made billionaire
2. Some nobody who names himself after a childrens tv character

Hmmmmmmmmm

So when the Gethin Jenkins said there isn't a business plan, it's rubbish, is it?!

Ill expect your death threat in due course.

I dont think enough of you to wish death on you.

Gethin Jenkins..........the one VT trusted so much he let him go, im sure Tan gives his plans out to people hes getting rid of

You're making assumptions now, which is wholly incorrect. To think that the CEO of a business wouldn't be given the business plan of the company is very foolish. Making yourself look very clueless when it comes to business now.

Just because he hasnt shown you the plan chuckles, or anyone for that matter doesnt mean there isnt one. You are not the centre of the universe chuckles as much as you like to think you are.

When it comes to business who is clueless?
1. A self-made billionaire
2. Some nobody who names himself after a childrens tv character

Hmmmmmmmmm

So when the Gethin Jenkins said there isn't a business plan, it's rubbish, is it?!

Ill expect your death threat in due course.

I dont think enough of you to wish death on you.

Gethin Jenkins..........the one VT trusted so much he let him go, im sure Tan gives his plans out to people hes getting rid of

You're making assumptions now, which is wholly incorrect. To think that the CEO of a business wouldn't be given the business plan of the company is very foolish. Making yourself look very clueless when it comes to business now.

A CEO whose contract wasnt being renewed, im sure decisions like that are made in advance and not just off the cuff. Therefore Tan wouldnt give him any info as he wasnt going to be around during the rebrand

Just because he hasnt shown you the plan chuckles, or anyone for that matter doesnt mean there isnt one. You are not the centre of the universe chuckles as much as you like to think you are.

When it comes to business who is clueless?
1. A self-made billionaire
2. Some nobody who names himself after a childrens tv character

Hmmmmmmmmm

So when the Gethin Jenkins said there isn't a business plan, it's rubbish, is it?!

Ill expect your death threat in due course.

I dont think enough of you to wish death on you.

Gethin Jenkins..........the one VT trusted so much he let him go, im sure Tan gives his plans out to people hes getting rid of

You're making assumptions now, which is wholly incorrect. To think that the CEO of a business wouldn't be given the business plan of the company is very foolish. Making yourself look very clueless when it comes to business now.

A CEO whose contract wasnt being renewed, im sure decisions like that are made in advance and not just off the cuff. Therefore Tan wouldnt give him any info as he wasnt going to be around during the rebrand

He WAS around during the rebrand though. He was the one facing all the questions! MARE!

Comedy gold.

Just because he hasnt shown you the plan chuckles, or anyone for that matter doesnt mean there isnt one. You are not the centre of the universe chuckles as much as you like to think you are.

When it comes to business who is clueless?
1. A self-made billionaire
2. Some nobody who names himself after a childrens tv character

Hmmmmmmmmm

So when the Gethin Jenkins said there isn't a business plan, it's rubbish, is it?!

Ill expect your death threat in due course.

I dont think enough of you to wish death on you.

Gethin Jenkins..........the one VT trusted so much he let him go, im sure Tan gives his plans out to people hes getting rid of

You're making assumptions now, which is wholly incorrect. To think that the CEO of a business wouldn't be given the business plan of the company is very foolish. Making yourself look very clueless when it comes to business now.

A CEO whose contract wasnt being renewed, im sure decisions like that are made in advance and not just off the cuff. Therefore Tan wouldnt give him any info as he wasnt going to be around during the rebrand

He WAS around during the rebrand though. He was the one facing all the questions! MARE!

Comedy gold.

Or was it ALAN WHITELEY

Who is having the mare

fair point, you got me there Craig!

My point still stands though, AW said himself in a minutes meeting that there was no business plan.

:lol: fair point, you got me there Craig!

My point still stands though, AW said himself in a minutes meeting that there was no business plan.

The point is why would AW divulge the business plan? By saying there isnt one he just got to deal with rebrand questions. If he said there is one he would have had to face questions on what that is to. Business plans can be quite sensitive and arent always nor should they be available to any tom dick or harry.

:lol: fair point, you got me there Craig!

My point still stands though, AW said himself in a minutes meeting that there was no business plan.

No it doesn't as CraigCCFC's point is that VT wouldn't give too much info to someone who was going to be let go.

I'd give up if I was you as you're getting battered on both threads I've been on.

Funny how you didn't respond to me proving you were wrong about the use of the word 'many'.

You are the worst poster on here, all you seem to go is attack and antagonise your fellow supporters,

Last edited by mjw6150 on Tue May 21, 2013 3:04 pm, edited 1 time in total.

:lol: fair point, you got me there Craig!

My point still stands though, AW said himself in a minutes meeting that there was no business plan.

The point is why would AW divulge the business plan? By saying there isnt one he just got to deal with rebrand questions. If he said there is one he would have had to face questions on what that is to. Business plans can be quite sensitive and arent always nor should they be available to any tom dick or harry.

He wouldn't have to divulge it, he would just have to confirm that one was in place. The fact he confirmed that one WASN'T in place proves that this was more of a whim than business sense.

VTs outbursts since have also added to the fact that it was most probably a whim.

:lol: fair point, you got me there Craig!

My point still stands though, AW said himself in a minutes meeting that there was no business plan.

The point is why would AW divulge the business plan? By saying there isnt one he just got to deal with rebrand questions. If he said there is one he would have had to face questions on what that is to. Business plans can be quite sensitive and arent always nor should they be available to any tom dick or harry.

He wouldn't have to divulge it, he would just have to confirm that one was in place. The fact he confirmed that one WASN'T in place proves that this was more of a whim than business sense.

VTs outbursts since have also added to the fact that it was most probably a whim.

VT says he is running us like a business. Do you honestly believe it was on a whim?
Come on now, if he was playing with us like Abramovich or Al Mubrak I would agree with the whim theory. The fact he refers to us as customers suggests otherwise.

:lol: fair point, you got me there Craig!

My point still stands though, AW said himself in a minutes meeting that there was no business plan.

The point is why would AW divulge the business plan? By saying there isnt one he just got to deal with rebrand questions. If he said there is one he would have had to face questions on what that is to. Business plans can be quite sensitive and arent always nor should they be available to any tom dick or harry.

He wouldn't have to divulge it, he would just have to confirm that one was in place. The fact he confirmed that one WASN'T in place proves that this was more of a whim than business sense.

VTs outbursts since have also added to the fact that it was most probably a whim.

VT says he is running us like a business. Do you honestly believe it was on a whim?
Come on now, if he was playing with us like Abramovich or Al Mubrak I would agree with the whim theory. The fact he refers to us as customers suggests otherwise.

Yes I honestly do. He has this thing with "lucky red" & it's that simple for me. Every time he speaks it just confirms it for me.

:lol: fair point, you got me there Craig!

My point still stands though, AW said himself in a minutes meeting that there was no business plan.

The point is why would AW divulge the business plan? By saying there isnt one he just got to deal with rebrand questions. If he said there is one he would have had to face questions on what that is to. Business plans can be quite sensitive and arent always nor should they be available to any tom dick or harry.

He wouldn't have to divulge it, he would just have to confirm that one was in place. The fact he confirmed that one WASN'T in place proves that this was more of a whim than business sense.

VTs outbursts since have also added to the fact that it was most probably a whim.

VT says he is running us like a business. Do you honestly believe it was on a whim?
Come on now, if he was playing with us like Abramovich or Al Mubrak I would agree with the whim theory. The fact he refers to us as customers suggests otherwise.

Yes I honestly do. He has this thing with "lucky red" & it's that simple for me. Every time he speaks it just confirms it for me.

Lucky red eh? Not as if we went up as champions......

:lol: fair point, you got me there Craig!

My point still stands though, AW said himself in a minutes meeting that there was no business plan.

The point is why would AW divulge the business plan? By saying there isnt one he just got to deal with rebrand questions. If he said there is one he would have had to face questions on what that is to. Business plans can be quite sensitive and arent always nor should they be available to any tom dick or harry.

He wouldn't have to divulge it, he would just have to confirm that one was in place. The fact he confirmed that one WASN'T in place proves that this was more of a whim than business sense.

VTs outbursts since have also added to the fact that it was most probably a whim.

VT says he is running us like a business. Do you honestly believe it was on a whim?
Come on now, if he was playing with us like Abramovich or Al Mubrak I would agree with the whim theory. The fact he refers to us as customers suggests otherwise.

Yes I honestly do. He has this thing with "lucky red" & it's that simple for me. Every time he speaks it just confirms it for me.

Lucky red eh? Not as if we went up as champions......

Lucky red my arse, if you honestly believe that Paul, then all credibility I had for you has gone.

:lol: fair point, you got me there Craig!

My point still stands though, AW said himself in a minutes meeting that there was no business plan.

No it doesn't as CraigCCFC's point is that VT wouldn't give too much info to someone who was going to be let go.

I'd give up if I was you as you're getting battered on both threads I've been on.

Funny how you didn't respond to me proving you were wrong about the use of the word 'many'.

You are the worst poster on here, all you seem to go is attack and antagonise your fellow supporters,

It does, unless you're really trying to tell me that a CEO wouldn't know what was happening at the company he's at.

I didn't use that word & proved you wrong in that thread. So stop making things up.

If anyone is honestly thinking that we got promoted because of a lucky red shirt, they are deluded. almost as crazy as make believe dragons protecting scared bluebirds from evil rams.

You say VT is so business savvy, why is there no actual business plan for this farcical rebrand then?

Watch his speech from the awards dinner, you'll see all about his dragons protecting the scared bluebird...

Why would he tell everybody his buisness plan, that is the absolute dumbest thing I have ever heard anybody say in my life your up there the swansealad now.

You say VT is so business savvy, why is there no actual business plan for this farcical rebrand then?

Watch his speech from the awards dinner, you'll see all about his dragons protecting the scared bluebird...

Why would he tell everybody his buisness plan, that is the absolute dumbest thing I have ever heard anybody say in my life your up there the swansealad now.

Obviously not said any of your own posts then.

When asked, the club confirmed there was no business plan.

wonder how many of you will all become turn coats if the impossible happened?
claiming to be a blue supporter all the time and hating the red, and fully behind the people who didnt give up on it.? keeping this issue in the limelite, and not rolling over dead like most of us have done.

I understand the "hurt" simon referes too, if you dont that s fine.
its the same hurt i felt when everyone sold their soul for a free scalf that horrible night.