Not interested in other Clubs histories/identity, just Ours

Pro red ? No.

I accept the changes for the good of the club if I had a choice we would be blue, but we dont.

I dont see why your asking what I would do. Ive told you, nothing as I have accepted the changes.

However, I havent seen ANYTHING by ANYONE trying to bring the blue back. Apart from that embarrassing march. Were you on that march ?

A simple question, what would you do or would have done, I am very interested as you seem to know it all ?

No I was not on a kids,drunken march, were you?


In the past, yes Ive organised marches,kicked down Chairmans doors,pitch invaded, gone down to the changing rooms, etc etc. If you do that nowadays, theres only one result, prison and a Ban, True or not?

So now,I am 47 years old and have a family.
So I realise times have changed.


By Wearing the Blue, Singing the Blue songs, going in person to every meeting the Club and others have organised, and speaking to Tan himself , His PA and Simon Ling,our other Directors and supporting any fan who can come up with good ideas like Bluebirds Unite,other fans fans who are willing to get Blue Tops etc made and yes by Tweeting,posting on here and FB.
Also I will continue to want our identity back, no matter how well we do.

We agreed not to disrupt our team and we never.

I think Ive done plenty under my Own name and I will continue.

What have you done so far, under a made up name?

Pro red ? No.

I accept the changes for the good of the club if I had a choice we would be blue, but we dont.

I dont see why your asking what I would do. Ive told you, nothing as I have accepted the changes.

However, I havent seen ANYTHING by ANYONE trying to bring the blue back. Apart from that embarrassing march. Were you on that march ?

A simple question, what would you do or would have done, I am very interested as you seem to know it all ?

No I was not on a kids,drunken march, were you?



In the past, yes Ive organised marches,kicked down Chairmans doors,pitch invaded, gone down to the changing rooms, etc etc. If you do that nowadays, theres only one result, prison and a Ban, True or not?

So now,I am 47 years old and have a family.
So I realise times have changed.

By Wearing the Blue, Singing the Blue songs, going in person to every meeting the Club and others have organised, and speaking to Tan himself , His PA and Simon Ling,our other Directors and supporting any fan who can come up with good ideas like Bluebirds Unite,other fans fans who are willing to get Blue Tops etc made and yes by Tweeting,posting on here and FB.
Also I will continue to want our identity back, no matter how well we do.

We agreed not to disrupt our team and we never.

I think Ive done plenty under my Own name and I will continue.

What have you done so far, under a made up name?

When have I ever claimed to 'know it all'. Not once. I just said, from my point of view and in my opinion NOBODY has done anything to get the blue back. I still havent seen any evidence that anybody has, apart from that march, which was a shambles. I will say it again, I wouldnt do anything as I dont feel the need to do anything.

There have been a few meetings that I am aware of, which nothing has come of.

And no I wasnt on the march as I dont feel that I am anti red nor pro blue enough to demonstrate.

Can you please stop saying Im under a 'fake' name. Like I said you can click my profile and find my name, its there for everybody to see.

Pro red ? No.

I accept the changes for the good of the club if I had a choice we would be blue, but we dont.

I dont see why your asking what I would do. Ive told you, nothing as I have accepted the changes.

However, I havent seen ANYTHING by ANYONE trying to bring the blue back. Apart from that embarrassing march. Were you on that march ?

A simple question, what would you do or would have done, I am very interested as you seem to know it all ?

No I was not on a kids,drunken march, were you?



In the past, yes Ive organised marches,kicked down Chairmans doors,pitch invaded, gone down to the changing rooms, etc etc. If you do that nowadays, theres only one result, prison and a Ban, True or not?

So now,I am 47 years old and have a family.
So I realise times have changed.

By Wearing the Blue, Singing the Blue songs, going in person to every meeting the Club and others have organised, and speaking to Tan himself , His PA and Simon Ling,our other Directors and supporting any fan who can come up with good ideas like Bluebirds Unite,other fans fans who are willing to get Blue Tops etc made and yes by Tweeting,posting on here and FB.
Also I will continue to want our identity back, no matter how well we do.

We agreed not to disrupt our team and we never.

I think Ive done plenty under my Own name and I will continue.

What have you done so far, under a made up name?

When have I ever claimed to 'know it all'. Not once. I just said, from my point of view and in my opinion NOBODY has done anything to get the blue back. I still havent seen any evidence that anybody has, apart from that march, which was a shambles. I will say it again, I wouldnt do anything as I dont feel the need to do anything.

There have been a few meetings that I am aware of, which nothing has come of.

And no I wasnt on the march as I dont feel that I am anti red nor pro blue enough to demonstrate.

Can you please stop saying Im under a 'fake' name. Like I said you can click my profile and find my name, its there for everybody to see.

Ok, but I am interested in what you would do? as you say Ive done nothing.



In the past, yes Ive organised marches,kicked down Chairmans doors,pitch invaded, gone down to the changing rooms, etc etc. If you do that nowadays, theres only one result, prison and a Ban, True or not?

So now,I am 47 years old and have a family.
So I realise times have changed.




By Wearing the Blue, Singing the Blue songs, going in person to every meeting the Club and others have organised, and speaking to Tan himself , His PA and Simon Ling,our other Directors and supporting any fan who can come up with good ideas like Bluebirds Unite,other fans fans who are willing to get Blue Tops etc made and yes by Tweeting,posting on here and FB.
Also I will continue to want our identity back, no matter how well we do.

We agreed not to disrupt our team and we never.

Pro red ? No.

I accept the changes for the good of the club if I had a choice we would be blue, but we dont.

I dont see why your asking what I would do. Ive told you, nothing as I have accepted the changes.

However, I havent seen ANYTHING by ANYONE trying to bring the blue back. Apart from that embarrassing march. Were you on that march ?

A simple question, what would you do or would have done, I am very interested as you seem to know it all ?

No I was not on a kids,drunken march, were you?



In the past, yes Ive organised marches,kicked down Chairmans doors,pitch invaded, gone down to the changing rooms, etc etc. If you do that nowadays, theres only one result, prison and a Ban, True or not?

So now,I am 47 years old and have a family.
So I realise times have changed.

By Wearing the Blue, Singing the Blue songs, going in person to every meeting the Club and others have organised, and speaking to Tan himself , His PA and Simon Ling,our other Directors and supporting any fan who can come up with good ideas like Bluebirds Unite,other fans fans who are willing to get Blue Tops etc made and yes by Tweeting,posting on here and FB.
Also I will continue to want our identity back, no matter how well we do.

We agreed not to disrupt our team and we never.

I think Ive done plenty under my Own name and I will continue.

What have you done so far, under a made up name?

When have I ever claimed to 'know it all'. Not once. I just said, from my point of view and in my opinion NOBODY has done anything to get the blue back. I still havent seen any evidence that anybody has, apart from that march, which was a shambles. I will say it again, I wouldnt do anything as I dont feel the need to do anything.

There have been a few meetings that I am aware of, which nothing has come of.

And no I wasnt on the march as I dont feel that I am anti red nor pro blue enough to demonstrate.

Can you please stop saying Im under a 'fake' name. Like I said you can click my profile and find my name, its there for everybody to see.

Ok, but I am interested in what you would do? as you say Ive done nothing.



In the past, yes Ive organised marches,kicked down Chairmans doors,pitch invaded, gone down to the changing rooms, etc etc. If you do that nowadays, theres only one result, prison and a Ban, True or not?

So now,I am 47 years old and have a family.
So I realise times have changed.

Yes that is true and I can see where youre coming.

Now, Im not sure if this applies to you, but many fans on here say they dont care about the Premier League and would prefer the blue back over promotion.

So, if that is the case and people dont care about how were doing on the field at present because were in red. They should have protests during matches, outside the ground after matches and marches on the way to the ground before matches. If people want the blue back the only way to do so In my opinion is to let Tan feel the heat and put him under pressure.

Until now there has been hardly any pressure on Tan to change back and for me that is why were still in red.

However, as I have said I dont oppose the changes enough to involve myself in any sort of protest.

I thought Mike Morris gave his own honest belief/opinion.




Mike Morris posted


I have friends who have walked away. I can see their argument. They say that if I still go I have accepted and support the rebrand. They don't and they have cut all ties.

I still go. I am still excited, I still care, I still want City to win but I hate red.

I guess I'm a 'reluctant red' if i continue to support the club by buying tickets.

I make my own little stand. No merchandise, I wear blue, I have withdrawn my sponsorship but ultimately I still turn up, home and away.

I think I'm in a majority. Probably outnumbering those who have stopped going by thousands to one.

Still leaves me quite mixed up but I'm celebrating our promotion and success this season whereas others who followed now detest the club.

It's quite a position to be in.

I thought Mike Morris gave his own honest belief/opinion.




Mike Morris posted


I have friends who have walked away. I can see their argument. They say that if I still go I have accepted and support the rebrand. They don't and they have cut all ties.

I still go. I am still excited, I still care, I still want City to win but I hate red.

I guess I'm a 'reluctant red' if i continue to support the club by buying tickets.

I make my own little stand. No merchandise, I wear blue, I have withdrawn my sponsorship but ultimately I still turn up, home and away.

I think I'm in a majority. Probably outnumbering those who have stopped going by thousands to one.

Still leaves me quite mixed up but I'm celebrating our promotion and success this season whereas others who followed now detest the club.

It's quite a position to be in.

That is spot on

Pro red ? No.

I accept the changes for the good of the club if I had a choice we would be blue, but we dont.

I dont see why your asking what I would do. Ive told you, nothing as I have accepted the changes.

However, I havent seen ANYTHING by ANYONE trying to bring the blue back. Apart from that embarrassing march. Were you on that march ?

A simple question, what would you do or would have done, I am very interested as you seem to know it all ?

No I was not on a kids,drunken march, were you?



In the past, yes Ive organised marches,kicked down Chairmans doors,pitch invaded, gone down to the changing rooms, etc etc. If you do that nowadays, theres only one result, prison and a Ban, True or not?

So now,I am 47 years old and have a family.
So I realise times have changed.

By Wearing the Blue, Singing the Blue songs, going in person to every meeting the Club and others have organised, and speaking to Tan himself , His PA and Simon Ling,our other Directors and supporting any fan who can come up with good ideas like Bluebirds Unite,other fans fans who are willing to get Blue Tops etc made and yes by Tweeting,posting on here and FB.
Also I will continue to want our identity back, no matter how well we do.

We agreed not to disrupt our team and we never.

I think Ive done plenty under my Own name and I will continue.

What have you done so far, under a made up name?

When have I ever claimed to 'know it all'. Not once. I just said, from my point of view and in my opinion NOBODY has done anything to get the blue back. I still havent seen any evidence that anybody has, apart from that march, which was a shambles. I will say it again, I wouldnt do anything as I dont feel the need to do anything.

There have been a few meetings that I am aware of, which nothing has come of.

And no I wasnt on the march as I dont feel that I am anti red nor pro blue enough to demonstrate.

Can you please stop saying Im under a 'fake' name. Like I said you can click my profile and find my name, its there for everybody to see.

Ok, but I am interested in what you would do? as you say Ive done nothing.



In the past, yes Ive organised marches,kicked down Chairmans doors,pitch invaded, gone down to the changing rooms, etc etc. If you do that nowadays, theres only one result, prison and a Ban, True or not?

So now,I am 47 years old and have a family.
So I realise times have changed.

Yes that is true and I can see where youre coming.

Now, Im not sure if this applies to you, but many fans on here say they dont care about the Premier League and would prefer the blue back over promotion.

So, if that is the case and people dont care about how were doing on the field at present because were in red. They should have protests during matches, outside the ground after matches and marches on the way to the ground before matches. If people want the blue back the only way to do so In my opinion is to let Tan feel the heat and put him under pressure.

Until now there has been hardly any pressure on Tan to change back and for me that is why were still in red.

However, as I have said I dont oppose the changes enough to involve myself in any sort of protest.

Yes I agree, we need to start showing how much our identity means to us and think you will find Bluebirds Unite will start doing this. Like I say for years I led from the front and did what I preached, now its time to see others do more and yes I will turn up and support them. My family is a young family and Cardiff City are not my life, like they use to be, my 3 years Daughters are now.
But like I say, I will support in person when I am here, any respectful protests.

Brilliant post Annis! I'm only 17 years old but I know what I am....A BLUEbird, I'll never wear anything red

I was part of that march and i agree it was a shambles and we do need older fans to lead us, we messed up and we know we did, but we wont go away, we might be youg fans but were blue

I don't care about other clubs identities either but i don't care about what other clubs fans think about ours either

I think most other clubs fans arent really interested in our rebranding. They just use it as a stick to beat us with.
Most Bristol City/Portsmouth etc fans would swap places in a heartbeat but they would never admit it.

Totally agree with you annis ,but theres too many fans down there now who dont give a shit cos all they care about is their precious premier league at all costs.

and comments like that just light the fuse

But its true isnt it?????

Totally agree with you annis ,but theres too many fans down there now who dont give a shit cos all they care about is their precious premier league at all costs.

and comments like that just light the fuse

But its true isnt it?????

I dont think so, i believe most people accepted it for financial security

SPOT ON , I AGREE WITH EVERY WORD

Totally agree with you annis ,but theres too many fans down there now who dont give a shit cos all they care about is their precious premier league at all costs.

and comments like that just light the fuse

But its true isnt it?????

I dont think so, i believe most people accepted it for financial security

To be fair i think you have been most mature about the rebrand for the whole duration.

Just accepted the reality of the situation and got on with it. Others moaned in confusion, me being one of them, immature I will admit but its hard when this has happened, its not only dividing a fan base but the view of a supporters. Is this right? Is this wrong? This dont feel right and so on. I agree with Mike Morris. Its hard to be a fan in this situation. Where do we draw the line?

Its wrong what has happened to the club but there is nothing we can do about it really because the money talks. That is not just something we as a football club need to be aware of but British football as a whole. Its sickening how money has more of a voice than the fans of the game.

Agreed. Havent read the whole thread but who gives a fluing f*ck if Leeds once changed their colours.

They are not our concern, and even if some clubs fans dont care if their club changed colours, so what??

Agreed. Havent read the whole thread but who gives a fluing f*ck if Leeds once changed their colours.

They are not our concern, and even if some clubs fans dont care if their club changed colours, so what??

Spot on Chris.

Totally agree with you annis ,but theres too many fans down there now who dont give a shit cos all they care about is their precious premier league at all costs.

Would you rather stay in the lower leagues then?

So who says we would now be in the lower leagues if we played in Blue last season ?

Agreed. Havent read the whole thread but who gives a fluing f*ck if Leeds once changed their colours.

They are not our concern, and even if some clubs fans dont care if their club changed colours, so what??

Exactly, does it bother anyone what any one else does, coz i don't give a flying f**k, so why do some reckon we are the laughing stock of other clubs, do you really think they care or they just happy to wind you up.

Totally agree with you annis ,but theres too many fans down there now who dont give a shit cos all they care about is their precious premier league at all costs.

Would you rather stay in the lower leagues then?

So who says we would now be in the lower leagues if we played in Blue last season ?

We may not have even been trading let alone playing in the lower league, but there is no way we'd have got promoted if the we didn't have the investment.

Totally agree with you annis ,but theres too many fans down there now who dont give a shit cos all they care about is their precious premier league at all costs.

Would you rather stay in the lower leagues then?

So who says we would now be in the lower leagues if we played in Blue last season ?

Of course we'll never know the answer to that question because we are now in the Prem

It's pretty certain that we would be in the Prem even if we played in blue last season, however, if the consequence of us playing in blue was that VT walked or did not invest any further then I think it is fair to say that not only would we not have been promoted but we may well have been in a relegation battle Don't forget, just before the late signings of Smith, Noone, Maynard and Bellamy we lost at Bristol City and they hardly set the world alight

I'm a reluctant acceptor of red (still don't understand the real reason for it !!) as after all those years of going to shitty places like Scunthorpe, Mansfied, etc, I just wanted to see my team in the top tier. If that makes me a "plastic" or soulless so be it, but I enjoyed this season more than any other since the early 70s and whatever happens from now on in I won't forget it, nor will I regard it as tarnished because of the red issue

The record books will say Championship Winners 2012/13 - Cardiff City My celebratory tattoo will have the Bluebird on it That's good enough for me

Agreed. Havent read the whole thread but who gives a fluing f*ck if Leeds once changed their colours.

They are not our concern, and even if some clubs fans dont care if their club changed colours, so what??

Exactly, does it bother anyone what any one else does, coz i don't give a flying f**k, so why do some reckon we are the laughing stock of other clubs, do you really think they care or they just happy to wind you up.

I dont care about what other fans think about the rebrand either, that matters not a jot to the reasons I am against the red.

Totally agree with you annis ,but theres too many fans down there now who dont give a shit cos all they care about is their precious premier league at all costs.

Would you rather stay in the lower leagues then?

So who says we would now be in the lower leagues if we played in Blue last season ?

Of course we'll never know the answer to that question because we are now in the Prem

It's pretty certain that we would be in the Prem even if we played in blue last season, however, if the consequence of us playing in blue was that VT walked or did not invest any further then I think it is fair to say that not only would we not have been promoted but we may well have been in a relegation battle Don't forget, just before the late signings of Smith, Noone, Maynard and Bellamy we lost at Bristol City and they hardly set the world alight

I'm a reluctant acceptor of red (still don't understand the real reason for it !!) as after all those years of going to shitty places like Scunthorpe, Mansfied, etc, I just wanted to see my team in the top tier. If that makes me a "plastic" or soulless so be it, but I enjoyed this season more than any other since the early 70s and whatever happens from now on in I won't forget it, nor will I regard it as tarnished because of the red issue

The record books will say Championship Winners 2012/13 - Cardiff City My celebratory tattoo will have the Bluebird on it That's good enough for me

OK but do you think Mr Tan would of walked whilst loosing many millions over a colour ? Me neither the only way he would of come out of this not loosing a fortune was to get to the Prem. Red or dead utter bullshit

Totally agree with you annis ,but theres too many fans down there now who dont give a shit cos all they care about is their precious premier league at all costs.

Would you rather stay in the lower leagues then?

So who says we would now be in the lower leagues if we played in Blue last season ?

Of course we'll never know the answer to that question because we are now in the Prem

It's pretty certain that we would be in the Prem even if we played in blue last season, however, if the consequence of us playing in blue was that VT walked or did not invest any further then I think it is fair to say that not only would we not have been promoted but we may well have been in a relegation battle Don't forget, just before the late signings of Smith, Noone, Maynard and Bellamy we lost at Bristol City and they hardly set the world alight

I'm a reluctant acceptor of red (still don't understand the real reason for it !!) as after all those years of going to shitty places like Scunthorpe, Mansfied, etc, I just wanted to see my team in the top tier. If that makes me a "plastic" or soulless so be it, but I enjoyed this season more than any other since the early 70s and whatever happens from now on in I won't forget it, nor will I regard it as tarnished because of the red issue

The record books will say Championship Winners 2012/13 - Cardiff City My celebratory tattoo will have the Bluebird on it That's good enough for me

OK but do you think Mr Tan would of walked whilst loosing many millions over a colour ? Me neither the only way he would of come out of this not loosing a fortune was to get to the Prem. Red or dead utter bullshit

He wouldn't have walked away over a colour, because that would be crazy, he would have walked away because he would have had to save face in the business world, and that's very much how it is in the far east.

He made an offer as part of a deal and at first the fans appeared to rebuff it, but when the majority of fans realised what was at stake they appealed to him to reconsider, and thank God he did, because look where we are now, and his promises are falling into place one by one.

Totally agree with you annis ,but theres too many fans down there now who dont give a shit cos all they care about is their precious premier league at all costs.

Would you rather stay in the lower leagues then?

So who says we would now be in the lower leagues if we played in Blue last season ?

Of course we'll never know the answer to that question because we are now in the Prem

It's pretty certain that we would be in the Prem even if we played in blue last season, however, if the consequence of us playing in blue was that VT walked or did not invest any further then I think it is fair to say that not only would we not have been promoted but we may well have been in a relegation battle Don't forget, just before the late signings of Smith, Noone, Maynard and Bellamy we lost at Bristol City and they hardly set the world alight

I'm a reluctant acceptor of red (still don't understand the real reason for it !!) as after all those years of going to shitty places like Scunthorpe, Mansfied, etc, I just wanted to see my team in the top tier. If that makes me a "plastic" or soulless so be it, but I enjoyed this season more than any other since the early 70s and whatever happens from now on in I won't forget it, nor will I regard it as tarnished because of the red issue

The record books will say Championship Winners 2012/13 - Cardiff City My celebratory tattoo will have the Bluebird on it That's good enough for me

OK but do you think Mr Tan would of walked whilst loosing many millions over a colour ? Me neither the only way he would of come out of this not loosing a fortune was to get to the Prem. Red or dead utter bullshit

I've just re-read my post and I can't see where I said red or dead

I agree that Tan wouldn't have walked away but there is no way he would have continued investing in, what he perceived, a failing business where he couldn't do it his way. He would have kept it ticking over until someone, with a whole lot less money, took it off his hands.

We certainly wouldn't be where we are now. It's all about opinions and I'm loving every bit of watching this manager, team and club progress

Not interested in other Clubs histories/identity, just Ours and what I have only ever known,liked and Loved and thats BLUE and a Prominent BLUEBIRD on our Badge. Other City Fans should Respect City Fans who still want Our Identity back and not Belittle them, in fact in my opinion they should be helping us get it back in a Respectful way and keep the BLUE flag flying as the saying goes.



When Sam changed Our Badge, I never agreed with him on that and found out that Sam only changed Our Badge thanks to help of other City fans. I told Sam then what I thought about it,Sam Respected my opinion and still does as he knows I am not a Yes man and will always say what I believe in, not want the Owners of Our Club ask or Demand and so to this day Sam still jokes about how he knows I wont stop going on about what he did or Tan has done(Tan has gone beyond and Stripped Our Identity from us, not even close to what Sam did).

When the Riddler took over the first thing I asked him was could we get our Badge back and even though I dont Respect how he handled the finances of Our Club, He put our Badge back.


We can All continue to Cheer, applaud and sing our team on week in week out, but at the same time unite and get stronger and remind the younger generations, that " WERE CARDIFF CITY AND WE'LL ALWAYS BE BLUE "

And no matter how much sarcasm,belittling, from certain people,I will NEVER change what I want and thats Cardiff City in BLUE, what I have only known since I started in 1972. I can not believe other so called fans would want to be against that.


IF WE ALL STUCK TOGETHER, WE COULD SHOW HOW MUCH OUR IDENTITY MEANS TO US AND I HONESTLY BELIEVE WE WOULD BE MORE RESPECTED BY TAN FOR THAT.

In my opinion you arent even doing anything to try and get the blue back. It seems to me all you do is write on here about how much you love the blue identity, moan about our present lack of identity. But I havent seen any action taken, which makes it ironic that you should ask other fans to help...

In the past, yes Ive organised marches,kicked down Chairmans doors,pitch invaded, gone down to the changing rooms, etc etc. If you do that nowadays, theres only one result, prison and a Ban, True or not?

So now,I am 47 years old and have a family.
So I realise times have changed.







By Wearing the Blue, Singing the Blue songs, going in person to every meeting the Club and others have organised, and speaking to Tan himself , His PA and Simon Ling,our other Directors and supporting any fan who can come up with good ideas like Bluebirds Unite,other fans fans who are willing to get Blue Tops etc made and yes by Tweeting,posting on here and FB.
Also I will continue to want our identity back, no matter how well we do.

We agreed not to disrupt our team and we never.

I think Ive done plenty under my Own name and I will continue.

What have you done so far, under a made up name?

Annis agree with your post mate and I agree with what you have done/doing to get the point over about are identity.

The problem though as I see it we have no leader.If we had one then all this may gain some momentum.You fit the bill now I am not saying you should do it but somebody needs to take the lead on it and in my eyes until someone or some organisation does then it will not build up a good head of steam.All the right ingredients are out there someone needs to no how to use em.

If not you then maybe the trust or may be you

Agree or not ? who would you suggest.