Would Swansea fill their proposed 32,000 stadium?

For the likes of Man utd chelsea etc yes -wigan ,norwich then no.Apart from Swansea itself -the major towns each side-Llanelli & Neath are egg towns with little or no interest in "the swans" .

That's an amazing statement, it really is. Incredibly wrong, but amazing all the same.

You lot don't half kid yourselves about them.

that isnt the statement jackboy-only the first 2 lines-- why dont you quote the rest of my post/

To be honest I only just read the rest and it's as ridiculous as the other statement I quoted.

"Nearly the whole of South Wales supporting us", "could be one of the biggest clubs in Europe".... yet we only manage 22,000 top of the league with £10 season tickets in the family stand. Madness. The delusions of some of you are quite frankly nothing short of amazing.[/quotd
YOU PRESUMABLY LIVE IN SWANSEA YES??? we live in neath-in my sons class in school city seasonn ticket holders outnumber the jacks 2-1- as i have said OUTSIDE of swansea you have no substantial support base

You presume wrong, I currently live in Perth at is moment, close though.

I see what you have done though. You seem to be basing the entire support of a city's football club on a class of around 25 kids (which surely 70% at least are not a fan of either club). So that's assuming there are 8 kids, 5 Cardiff fans and 3 swans fans.

As it happens, I've studied in Llanelli and lived in Neath and both were full of swans fans, well I say full as in a healthy number and I think I came across one Cardiff fan in Llanelli that was the subject of great ridicule that there would be a Cardiff fan in Llanelli and came across no Cardiff fans in Neath, and I lived there for 7 years.

What you haven't seemed to twig is the fact that as a club Cardiff only manage to sell 22000 tickets on average and there are thousands in that official number that don't turn up or have taken advantage of the £10 season ticket.

Where are all these fans then?

On the verge of promotion so let's talk about the jacks who we dont care about at all.

No come on I'm bored shitless on a night shift let's keep the conversation going

Ok, you're a gypsy who supports a small tin-pot club who's despite performances in the league and cup are shit. Accrington Stanley are bigger than you.

Cardiff city are bigger than Barcelona Real Madrid and man ure combined with a catchment area of the entire solar system.

Better?

You've spoilt it now

Ok il tone it down, I honestly think you'd average between 29-31k. On and the plans is to increase to 33k not 32k.

Not far off , but most Swansea supporters realise size wise where we are , a lot of cardiff fans think your the next Barcelona the way they talk about fanbase and potential , you will get slightly bigger crowds than us but you won't get the numbers that some are talking about

On the verge of promotion so let's talk about the jacks who we dont care about at all.

No come on I'm bored shitless on a night shift let's keep the conversation going

Ok, you're a gypsy who supports a small tin-pot club who's despite performances in the league and cup are shit. Accrington Stanley are bigger than you.

Cardiff city are bigger than Barcelona Real Madrid and man ure combined with a catchment area of the entire solar system.

Better?

You've spoilt it now

Ok il tone it down, I honestly think you'd average between 29-31k. On and the plans is to increase to 33k not 32k.

Not far off , but most Swansea supporters realise size wise where we are , a lot of cardiff fans think your the next Barcelona the way they talk about fanbase and potential , you will get slightly bigger crowds than us but you won't get the numbers that some are talking about

We'd have to regularly win the Prem and compete in the Champions League final a lot to get 60k let alone Barcelonas average 78k.

Not far off , but most Swansea supporters realise size wise where we are , a lot of cardiff fans think your the next Barcelona the way they talk about fanbase and potential , you will get slightly bigger crowds than us but you won't get the numbers that some are talking about "

I'd even dispute that to be honest.

We have always got slightly more crowds than you because of our success on the pitch, recently we have got to cup finals and play off finals etc where as you have just floated around the play offs.

The way you have got success now with European football and the league cup, if we both had a 50,000 seater stadium I ink you would get a higher attendance than us. Fans are drawn to success and currently you are more successful than us.

Ok il tone it down, I honestly think you'd average between 29-31k. On and the plans is to increase to 33k not 32k.

Not far off , but most Swansea supporters realise size wise where we are , a lot of cardiff fans think your the next Barcelona the way they talk about fanbase and potential , you will get slightly bigger crowds than us but you won't get the numbers that some are talking about

I'd even dispute that to be honest.

We have always got slightly more crowds than you because of our success on the pitch, recently we have got to cup finals and play off finals etc where as you have just floated around the play offs.

The way you have got success now with European football and the league cup, if we both had a 50,000 seater stadium I ink you would get a higher attendance than us. Fans are drawn to success and currently you are more successful than us.[/quote]




like for like , cardiff will get a bigger crowd , obviously success will bring out more fans , but tbh a thousand here or there doesn't make a blind bit of difference , with premier money being so much it doesn't matter

Yes agree with that, but things arent seen as like for like as things rarely are.

The better the football team, the more success, the bigger the crowd, the bigger the club....is a fairly good indicator.

Swansea currently have a far better football team and more success. The fact the two clubs are similarly sized tells me that Swansea would currently get a higher crowd if there were no restrictions on capacity.

We had 10 years to build our championship crowd we get today on the back of price freezes, ticket scams, £10 season tickets, cup finals and play off finals. You had 3 seasons and went up with no time to build a fanbase thus your quick rise up the leagues not allowing time to pick up and build the fans we did.

Now you have and are reaping the rewards. If a football fan is in the area and is faced with going to see Cardiff at home or Swansea at home in the prem, who do you think he will choose? The players you have and your style of play is a major draw.

Currently I feel we are like stoke and you are like spurs. The football fan would prefer to watch spurs and their stars every time surely? The difference being stoke fans wouldn't even try and dispute it.

Yes agree with that, but things arent seen as like for like as things rarely are.

The better the football team, the more success, the bigger the crowd, the bigger the club....is a fairly good indicator.

Swansea currently have a far better football team and more success. The fact the two clubs are similarly sized tells me that Swansea would currently get a higher crowd if there were no restrictions on capacity.

We had 10 years to build our championship crowd we get today on the back of price freezes, ticket scams, £10 season tickets, cup finals and play off finals. You had 3 seasons and went up with no time to build a fanbase thus your quick rise up the leagues not allowing time to pick up and build the fans we did.

Now you have and are reaping the rewards. If a football fan is in the area and is faced with going to see Cardiff at home or Swansea at home in the prem, who do you think he will choose? The players you have and your style of play is a major draw.

Currently I feel we are like stoke and you are like spurs. The football fan would prefer to watch spurs and their stars every time surely? The difference being stoke fans wouldn't even try and dispute it.

Out of curiosity, who do you support?

Yes agree with that, but things arent seen as like for like as things rarely are.

The better the football team, the more success, the bigger the crowd, the bigger the club....is a fairly good indicator.

Swansea currently have a far better football team and more success. The fact the two clubs are similarly sized tells me that Swansea would currently get a higher crowd if there were no restrictions on capacity.

We had 10 years to build our championship crowd we get today on the back of price freezes, ticket scams, £10 season tickets, cup finals and play off finals. You had 3 seasons and went up with no time to build a fanbase thus your quick rise up the leagues not allowing time to pick up and build the fans we did.

Now you have and are reaping the rewards. If a football fan is in the area and is faced with going to see Cardiff at home or Swansea at home in the prem, who do you think he will choose? The players you have and your style of play is a major draw.

Currently I feel we are like stoke and you are like spurs. The football fan would prefer to watch spurs and their stars every time surely? The difference being stoke fans wouldn't even try and dispute it.

Out of curiosity, who do you support?

Cardiff City and Wales.

I have no qualms in saying England are a bigger team than Wales and none saying Swansea are a bigger team than us. Rivalries are fun but they will never cloud my reality.

Yes agree with that, but things arent seen as like for like as things rarely are.

The better the football team, the more success, the bigger the crowd, the bigger the club....is a fairly good indicator.

Swansea currently have a far better football team and more success. The fact the two clubs are similarly sized tells me that Swansea would currently get a higher crowd if there were no restrictions on capacity.

We had 10 years to build our championship crowd we get today on the back of price freezes, ticket scams, £10 season tickets, cup finals and play off finals. You had 3 seasons and went up with no time to build a fanbase thus your quick rise up the leagues not allowing time to pick up and build the fans we did.

Now you have and are reaping the rewards. If a football fan is in the area and is faced with going to see Cardiff at home or Swansea at home in the prem, who do you think he will choose? The players you have and your style of play is a major draw.

Currently I feel we are like stoke and you are like spurs. The football fan would prefer to watch spurs and their stars every time surely? The difference being stoke fans wouldn't even try and dispute it.

I'm sorry but what a load of rubbish. I agree that there probably wouldnt be much difference in size between the two clubs but your basing it purely on the fact that they have been in the prem 2 years and we havent. Of course fans are more likely to go see them. However, next season you have no idea what our side will be like or the football on offer.

As for being like Stoke have you actually watched our recent matches? Plus your comparing a championship side to a premier league side who have had time to spend the money they have gained from promotion.

Yes agree with that, but things arent seen as like for like as things rarely are.

The better the football team, the more success, the bigger the crowd, the bigger the club....is a fairly good indicator.

Swansea currently have a far better football team and more success. The fact the two clubs are similarly sized tells me that Swansea would currently get a higher crowd if there were no restrictions on capacity.

We had 10 years to build our championship crowd we get today on the back of price freezes, ticket scams, £10 season tickets, cup finals and play off finals. You had 3 seasons and went up with no time to build a fanbase thus your quick rise up the leagues not allowing time to pick up and build the fans we did.

Now you have and are reaping the rewards. If a football fan is in the area and is faced with going to see Cardiff at home or Swansea at home in the prem, who do you think he will choose? The players you have and your style of play is a major draw.

Currently I feel we are like stoke and you are like spurs. The football fan would prefer to watch spurs and their stars every time surely? The difference being stoke fans wouldn't even try and dispute it.

I'm sorry but what a load of rubbish. I agree that there probably wouldnt be much difference in size between the two clubs but your basing it purely on the fact that they have been in the prem 2 years and we havent. Of course fans are more likely to go see them. However, next season you have no idea what our side will be like or the football on offer.

As for being like Stoke have you actually watched our recent matches? Plus your comparing a championship side to a premier league side who have had time to spend the money they have gained from promotion.

I don't know whether to take him seriously or not.

Yes agree with that, but things arent seen as like for like as things rarely are.

The better the football team, the more success, the bigger the crowd, the bigger the club....is a fairly good indicator.

Swansea currently have a far better football team and more success. The fact the two clubs are similarly sized tells me that Swansea would currently get a higher crowd if there were no restrictions on capacity.

We had 10 years to build our championship crowd we get today on the back of price freezes, ticket scams, £10 season tickets, cup finals and play off finals. You had 3 seasons and went up with no time to build a fanbase thus your quick rise up the leagues not allowing time to pick up and build the fans we did.

Now you have and are reaping the rewards. If a football fan is in the area and is faced with going to see Cardiff at home or Swansea at home in the prem, who do you think he will choose? The players you have and your style of play is a major draw.

Currently I feel we are like stoke and you are like spurs. The football fan would prefer to watch spurs and their stars every time surely? The difference being stoke fans wouldn't even try and dispute it.

I'm sorry but what a load of rubbish. I agree that there probably wouldnt be much difference in size between the two clubs but your basing it purely on the fact that they have been in the prem 2 years and we havent. Of course fans are more likely to go see them. However, next season you have no idea what our side will be like or the football on offer.

As for being like Stoke have you actually watched our recent matches? Plus your comparing a championship side to a premier league side who have had time to spend the money they have gained from promotion.

I don't know whether to take him seriously or not.

I normally try not to respond to him because he will just cause more arguements but that statement was a load of rubbish. To even "pretend" to be a city fan and come out with that crap and to think people will believe it is absurd

Yes agree with that, but things arent seen as like for like as things rarely are.

The better the football team, the more success, the bigger the crowd, the bigger the club....is a fairly good indicator.

Swansea currently have a far better football team and more success. The fact the two clubs are similarly sized tells me that Swansea would currently get a higher crowd if there were no restrictions on capacity.

We had 10 years to build our championship crowd we get today on the back of price freezes, ticket scams, £10 season tickets, cup finals and play off finals. You had 3 seasons and went up with no time to build a fanbase thus your quick rise up the leagues not allowing time to pick up and build the fans we did.

Now you have and are reaping the rewards. If a football fan is in the area and is faced with going to see Cardiff at home or Swansea at home in the prem, who do you think he will choose? The players you have and your style of play is a major draw.

Currently I feel we are like stoke and you are like spurs. The football fan would prefer to watch spurs and their stars every time surely? The difference being stoke fans wouldn't even try and dispute it.

I'm sorry but what a load of rubbish. I agree that there probably wouldnt be much difference in size between the two clubs but your basing it purely on the fact that they have been in the prem 2 years and we havent. Of course fans are more likely to go see them. However, next season you have no idea what our side will be like or the football on offer.

As for being like Stoke have you actually watched our recent matches? Plus your comparing a championship side to a premier league side who have had time to spend the money they have gained from promotion.

I don't know whether to take him seriously or not.

I normally try not to respond to him because he will just cause more arguements but that statement was a load of rubbish. To even "pretend" to be a city fan and come out with that crap and to think people will believe it is absurd

Queue a well written pile of crap from his truly.

Yes agree with that, but things arent seen as like for like as things rarely are.

The better the football team, the more success, the bigger the crowd, the bigger the club....is a fairly good indicator.

Swansea currently have a far better football team and more success. The fact the two clubs are similarly sized tells me that Swansea would currently get a higher crowd if there were no restrictions on capacity.

We had 10 years to build our championship crowd we get today on the back of price freezes, ticket scams, £10 season tickets, cup finals and play off finals. You had 3 seasons and went up with no time to build a fanbase thus your quick rise up the leagues not allowing time to pick up and build the fans we did.

Now you have and are reaping the rewards. If a football fan is in the area and is faced with going to see Cardiff at home or Swansea at home in the prem, who do you think he will choose? The players you have and your style of play is a major draw.

Currently I feel we are like stoke and you are like spurs. The football fan would prefer to watch spurs and their stars every time surely? The difference being stoke fans wouldn't even try and dispute it.

I'm sorry but what a load of rubbish. I agree that there probably wouldnt be much difference in size between the two clubs but your basing it purely on the fact that they have been in the prem 2 years and we havent. Of course fans are more likely to go see them. However, next season you have no idea what our side will be like or the football on offer.

As for being like Stoke have you actually watched our recent matches? Plus your comparing a championship side to a premier league side who have had time to spend the money they have gained from promotion.

It's not rubbish at all, it's exactly how it is.

If there isn't much difference in size of club then the more successful club will get the higher attendance. Surely this is common sense?

Right now swansea are by far and away the most successful club. If we can finish in the top 10, win a major trophy and get into Europe playing an attractive brand of football then we become even again and Cardiff will probably have slightly the bigger gate,

It's how things are I'm afraid. Reality.

Yes agree with that, but things arent seen as like for like as things rarely are.

The better the football team, the more success, the bigger the crowd, the bigger the club....is a fairly good indicator.

Swansea currently have a far better football team and more success. The fact the two clubs are similarly sized tells me that Swansea would currently get a higher crowd if there were no restrictions on capacity.

We had 10 years to build our championship crowd we get today on the back of price freezes, ticket scams, £10 season tickets, cup finals and play off finals. You had 3 seasons and went up with no time to build a fanbase thus your quick rise up the leagues not allowing time to pick up and build the fans we did.

Now you have and are reaping the rewards. If a football fan is in the area and is faced with going to see Cardiff at home or Swansea at home in the prem, who do you think he will choose? The players you have and your style of play is a major draw.

Currently I feel we are like stoke and you are like spurs. The football fan would prefer to watch spurs and their stars every time surely? The difference being stoke fans wouldn't even try and dispute it.

I'm sorry but what a load of rubbish. I agree that there probably wouldnt be much difference in size between the two clubs but your basing it purely on the fact that they have been in the prem 2 years and we havent. Of course fans are more likely to go see them. However, next season you have no idea what our side will be like or the football on offer.

As for being like Stoke have you actually watched our recent matches? Plus your comparing a championship side to a premier league side who have had time to spend the money they have gained from promotion.

It's not rubbish at all, it's exactly how it is.

If there isn't much difference in size of club then the more successful club will get the higher attendance. Surely this is common sense?

Right now swansea are by far and away the most successful club. If we can finish in the top 10, win a major trophy and get into Europe playing an attractive brand of football then we become even again and Cardiff will probably have slightly the bigger gate,

It's how things are I'm afraid. Reality.

But you don't know how we will fair, your basing future stadium attendances on current standing which is set to change come august when we get promoted. They've had 2 seasons in the prem so of course they have the better team and look the more attractive prospect.

And we have a bigger gate regardless of how big our stadiums are same as we will have a full stadium next season if we get promoted.

Yes agree with that, but things arent seen as like for like as things rarely are.

The better the football team, the more success, the bigger the crowd, the bigger the club....is a fairly good indicator.

Swansea currently have a far better football team and more success. The fact the two clubs are similarly sized tells me that Swansea would currently get a higher crowd if there were no restrictions on capacity.

We had 10 years to build our championship crowd we get today on the back of price freezes, ticket scams, £10 season tickets, cup finals and play off finals. You had 3 seasons and went up with no time to build a fanbase thus your quick rise up the leagues not allowing time to pick up and build the fans we did.

Now you have and are reaping the rewards. If a football fan is in the area and is faced with going to see Cardiff at home or Swansea at home in the prem, who do you think he will choose? The players you have and your style of play is a major draw.

Currently I feel we are like stoke and you are like spurs. The football fan would prefer to watch spurs and their stars every time surely? The difference being stoke fans wouldn't even try and dispute it.

I'm sorry but what a load of rubbish. I agree that there probably wouldnt be much difference in size between the two clubs but your basing it purely on the fact that they have been in the prem 2 years and we havent. Of course fans are more likely to go see them. However, next season you have no idea what our side will be like or the football on offer.

As for being like Stoke have you actually watched our recent matches? Plus your comparing a championship side to a premier league side who have had time to spend the money they have gained from promotion.

It's not rubbish at all, it's exactly how it is.

If there isn't much difference in size of club then the more successful club will get the higher attendance. Surely this is common sense?

Right now swansea are by far and away the most successful club. If we can finish in the top 10, win a major trophy and get into Europe playing an attractive brand of football then we become even again and Cardiff will probably have slightly the bigger gate,

It's how things are I'm afraid. Reality.

But you don't know how we will fair, your basing future stadium attendances on current standing which is set to change come august when we get promoted. They've had 2 seasons in the prem so of course they have the better team and look the more attractive prospect.

but that's exactly what I'm saying. Until we achieve what they have then they will be the more attractive club. If we can get players of the calibre of Michu, win a major trophy, play attractive football, qualify for Europe and sit just outside the top 6 then yes we can probably just trump them in terms of gates.. But we haven't and in reality probably won't..

And we have a bigger gate regardless of how big our stadiums are same as we will have a full stadium next season if we get promoted.

because we have largely been above them. The tables have now turned and until we match them I holy doubt we will draw a bigger crowd if there were no restrictions on capacity. Neither club have a great fan base but the floaters pay to watch success. They are more successful, simple as that.

Yes agree with that, but things arent seen as like for like as things rarely are.

The better the football team, the more success, the bigger the crowd, the bigger the club....is a fairly good indicator.

Swansea currently have a far better football team and more success. The fact the two clubs are similarly sized tells me that Swansea would currently get a higher crowd if there were no restrictions on capacity.

We had 10 years to build our championship crowd we get today on the back of price freezes, ticket scams, £10 season tickets, cup finals and play off finals. You had 3 seasons and went up with no time to build a fanbase thus your quick rise up the leagues not allowing time to pick up and build the fans we did.

Now you have and are reaping the rewards. If a football fan is in the area and is faced with going to see Cardiff at home or Swansea at home in the prem, who do you think he will choose? The players you have and your style of play is a major draw.

Currently I feel we are like stoke and you are like spurs. The football fan would prefer to watch spurs and their stars every time surely? The difference being stoke fans wouldn't even try and dispute it.

I'm sorry but what a load of rubbish. I agree that there probably wouldnt be much difference in size between the two clubs but your basing it purely on the fact that they have been in the prem 2 years and we havent. Of course fans are more likely to go see them. However, next season you have no idea what our side will be like or the football on offer.

As for being like Stoke have you actually watched our recent matches? Plus your comparing a championship side to a premier league side who have had time to spend the money they have gained from promotion.

It's not rubbish at all, it's exactly how it is.

If there isn't much difference in size of club then the more successful club will get the higher attendance. Surely this is common sense?

Right now swansea are by far and away the most successful club. If we can finish in the top 10, win a major trophy and get into Europe playing an attractive brand of football then we become even again and Cardiff will probably have slightly the bigger gate,

It's how things are I'm afraid. Reality.

But you don't know how we will fair, your basing future stadium attendances on current standing which is set to change come august when we get promoted. They've had 2 seasons in the prem so of course they have the better team and look the more attractive prospect.

but that's exactly what I'm saying. Until we achieve what they have then they will be the more attractive club. If we can get players of the calibre of Michu, win a major trophy, play attractive football, qualify for Europe and sit just outside the top 6 then yes we can probably just trump them in terms of gates.. But we haven't and in reality probably won't..

And we have a bigger gate regardless of how big our stadiums are same as we will have a full stadium next season if we get promoted.

because we have largely been above them. The tables have now turned and until we match them I holy doubt we will draw a bigger crowd if there were no restrictions on capacity. Neither club have a great fan base but the floaters pay to watch success. They are more successful, simple as that.

Im not going to even bother. Enjoy it. At least dont be ashamed to be a swansea fan

Not going to bother what, acknowledging that you clearly just agreed with me?

okay

At the moment I would say yes, premiership football, european football next season. Just one thought though Coventry City, do Swansea want to end up in the same mess Coventry ended up in? Also everybody seems to forget about the Ospreys, its their stadium as well do they want to play in a 32,000 stadium?

What has Coventry got to do with Swansea expanding?

What has Coventry got to do with Swansea expanding?

you know full well so not bothering.

Yes I particularly liked the part where you said you could be one of the biggest clubs in Europe

These are the types of fans that embarrass our club, please don't judge us on these people. They are a good few slices short of a loaf.

You are one of the only cardiff fans who speaks with sense honesty and realism

Trust me there are a few of us about, amazingly most of the mentalists seem to congregate on this board.

pax man is that a tie in your avatar or waddles cock slipping from your mouth. nice to see a jack love in on a cardiff board

What has Coventry got to do with Swansea expanding?

you know full well so not bothering.

I have absolutely no idea what relevance it has. I'm sure nobody else does either.

Why make a point then refuse to explain it?

pax man is that a tie in your avatar or waddles cock slipping from your mouth. nice to see a jack love in on a cardiff board

It's a quick sketch of Conway playing for Watford you complete card

What has Coventry got to do with Swansea expanding?

you know full well so not bothering.

I have absolutely no idea what relevance it has. I'm sure nobody else does either.

Why make a point then refuse to explain it?

oh ill explain it to anybody else if they havent caught my point just wont explain it to you, dont talk to trolls.

What has Coventry got to do with Swansea expanding?

you know full well so not bothering.

I have absolutely no idea what relevance it has. I'm sure nobody else does either.

Why make a point then refuse to explain it?

oh ill explain it to anybody else if they havent caught my point just wont explain it to you, dont talk to trolls.

A troll is someone who talks about inflammatory subjects to get an emotional reaction.

You have made an odd point here, if you wish to take it back then that's fine, however currently you have not made any sense.

pax man is that a tie in your avatar or waddles cock slipping from your mouth. nice to see a jack love in on a cardiff board

It's a quick sketch of Conway playing for Watford you complete card

as the sheperd said f**k me i shag one sheep

pax man is that a tie in your avatar or waddles cock slipping from your mouth. nice to see a jack love in on a cardiff board

It's a quick sketch of Conway playing for Watford you complete card

as the sheperd said f**k me i shag one sheep

Well Steve at least you haven't got the situations of Coventry and Swansea completely muddled up and then refused to explain knowing you would sound like a moron.

You took your massive mistake on the chin in fairness

What has Coventry got to do with Swansea expanding?

you know full well so not bothering.

I have absolutely no idea what relevance it has. I'm sure nobody else does either.

Why make a point then refuse to explain it?

oh ill explain it to anybody else if they havent caught my point just wont explain it to you, dont talk to trolls.

A troll is someone who talks about inflammatory subjects to get an emotional reaction.

You have made an odd point here, if you wish to take it back then that's fine, however currently you have not made any sense.

what did I hear someone say to me recently

deal with it

what did I hear someone say to me recently

deal with it

Deal with what? You talking nonsense?

For someone who doesn't like talking to me you don't half talk a lot. You could have explained your reasoning by now.... But we both know the point you were making will make you sound like a moron

another thread ruined by paxman