" RESPECT TO MALKY MACKAY "

I remember listening to him talking to the players at one of his first training sessions at the Vale last year. In a nutshell he said he aimmed to make us the one team in the division that everyone would hate to play, not because we had the best technical players but because we'd be the hardest working side from the 1st to the 90th(96!th minute). I believe this is exactly what he achieved last year and by adding that bit of qualty this season the job WILL be completed.
I also believe that it is vital that this 100% team ethic is carried into the premier league. If we start to buy prima donnas however good we will lose this vital cog in the wheel. Our way forward is to purchase young talented hard working players that will fight for this club.
Adam Mathews, Jonathan Williams, Arron Ramsey, Jack Hunt and the like should be the type of player we look at to add to the experience already in the squad.

Carl, I just wish that Malky had brought in a top quality target man in the January window. We still lack a player to hold the ball up and bring others into play. Campbell was a very good purchase but as well as he has done I think we would be up by now if he was playing alongside a proper target man. HH is too slow and Rudy lacks quality. It's been a weakness all season and we are still top but I'm convinced if we had a striker in the mould of Kazeem Richards ( big strong and mobile) for example we would have it sewn up by now.

Yeah, cos Kazeem Richards did so well against us last week!

Blackburn were shit. Put him in our team and he would make a big difference. I've seen him play against us before and seen him on tv and he's a handful. Anyway I said someone in his mould...picky.

You're right, he has played against us before:-

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/20564644

I'm not being picky btw, I was just teasing, although I don't agree with this target man argument!

So by your loyalty logic Carl we should play with the same players in the premier league that win us promotion?

Players get upgraded when a side gets promoted why is it so disrespectful to question wether a managers tactics will work in the premiership??

"All opinions welcome"... well evidently not.

The football we've played is ugly, yes - but it has worked well overall (though we have been lucky that this is a very average division this season)

I still think he has been tactical naive at times and made the wrong choices. He's also proved to be rather stubborn - Craig Conway is a prime example of this.

If he takes us up he deserves a minimum of (A MINIMUM) of a year in the premier league to give it a go.

I personally would give him an extra year (even if we were relegated) to get promoted again. WBA are a yoyo club who are doing well, and it might take several seasons (promotion and relegation) to get established.
Loyalty and stability are very important. He is also building a squad of young players, for the future, unlike the miserable scouser.

If he takes us up he deserves a minimum of (A MINIMUM) of a year in the premier league to give it a go.

I personally would give him an extra year (even if we were relegated) to get promoted again. WBA are a yoyo club who are doing well, and it might take several seasons (promotion and relegation) to get established.
Loyalty and stability are very important. He is also building a squad of young players, for the future, unlike the miserable scouser.

DJ didnt have the luxury of boardroom stability that Malky has.

He signed plenty of good youngsters like Loovens, Johnson, McCormack, Chopra but in most cases had to sell to keep the club afloat.

Lets not let the facts get in the way though.

I think Malky has got things right, brought the young guns on, at a bit of a time.

Some of our play might be ugly but it's getting us to where we want to go.

So let's respect what he is doing for our club.

I can't wait to see kids in Cardiff and the valleys in Cardiff City shirts not Man U or Liverpool.

I completely respect the job Malkay Mackay has done for our club and I firmly believe that he is the best manager we have had since Jimmy Scoular, also he is the best "fans" manager since Eddie May.

I also believe he will lead the club into the Premier League this season and both he and the players will deserve it, however it will have been achieved on the back of football that has mostly foresaken entertainment value for efficiency. When that style of play delivers PL few if any will complain after seasons of having enjoyed mainly open, fluid and attacking football under DJ only to fail at the last hurdle.

At times this season we have also played an open and attacking style, but sadly on to few occasions, but in fairness the loss of Maynard so early in the season and the extended loss of Mutch may have contributed to that.

Tuesday night was the perfect example of the "negativity" which appears to have taken a grip as parking the bus against a really average Barnsley side after taking the lead was tough to watch.Sitting back and inviting Peterborough on is another classic example of not going at teams when beating them and we paid the "penalty" there as well.

DJ suggested the other week that it looks like we may limp over the line but right now it looks more likely we will be on all fours crawling over the line.

In the grand scheme of things will anyone complain,probably not, as the dream will have been delivered and I doubt you will find a single bluebird fan who will question the style which achieved it.

But at a time when questions are being asked about banging a drum to improve the atmosphere inside the ground how about watching a team playing with pace, aggression, fluidity and not the boring, unimaginative negative dross served up once we scored against Barnsley on Tuesday.

I completely respect the job Malkay Mackay has done for our club and I firmly believe that he is the best manager we have had since Jimmy Scoular, also he is the best "fans" manager since Eddie May.

I also believe he will lead the club into the Premier League this season and both he and the players will deserve it, however it will have been achieved on the back of football that has mostly foresaken entertainment value for efficiency. When that style of play delivers PL few if any will complain after seasons of having enjoyed mainly open, fluid and attacking football under DJ only to fail at the last hurdle.

At times this season we have also played an open and attacking style, but sadly on to few occasions, but in fairness the loss of Maynard so early in the season and the extended loss of Mutch may have contributed to that.

Tuesday night was the perfect example of the "negativity" which appears to have taken a grip as parking the bus against a really average Barnsley side after taking the lead was tough to watch.Sitting back and inviting Peterborough on is another classic example of not going at teams when beating them and we paid the "penalty" there as well.

DJ suggested the other week that it looks like we may limp over the line but right now it looks more likely we will be on all fours crawling over the line.

In the grand scheme of things will anyone complain,probably not, as the dream will have been delivered and I doubt you will find a single bluebird fan who will question the style which achieved it.

But at a time when questions are being asked about banging a drum to improve the atmosphere inside the ground how about watching a team playing with pace, aggression, fluidity and not the boring, unimaginative negative dross served up once we scored against Barnsley on Tuesday.

I agree. We certainly won't get anything playing negative football like that v Forest either.

Hope Campbell's back too!

'Why oh why are there calls for the manager to be replaced EVEN if we get promoted automatically is beyond belief in my opinion.'

apart from a select group of thickos on here who barely have a brain cell between them to rub together, i havent come across a single fan that doesnt believe malky is doing a great job.

onwards and upwards

Tuesday was agony a preposterous 7+ minutes, yet I would take a point tomorrow.I remember the 1970/71 season we were pushing we had sold Toshack at Christmas and struggled after that, I think we ended up 4th.Guess who we lost to on the last day of the season at home -Watford 0-1.The tension is awful this is why 1-0 is never enough, belief is now what is needed.
MM is a football man through and through Cardiff have to keep him at all costs.

After we scored Barnsley threw everything at us in a 343 formation as they needed a point desperately. They got lucky with the goal. I don't think it was a conscious decision to play defensively - Barnsley threw the kitchen sink at us and got a break. The main fault was that we had had enough chances to have been 3 up long before then.

That is the most important point raised by this thread. For all of MM's qualities the one thing I can't understand is why we don't convert a higher number of the numerous chances we create?

Hat's off to him for improving our set piece scoring record but from open play we seem to labour and over egg far too much. Next season chances will be of a premium so we have to learn to be far more clinical in front of goal.

'Why oh why are there calls for the manager to be replaced EVEN if we get promoted automatically is beyond belief in my opinion.'

apart from a select group of thickos on here who barely have a brain cell between them to rub together, i havent come across a single fan that doesnt believe malky is doing a great job.

onwards and upwards

I have to agree although I can't remember reading anyone calling for his head. There has been plenty of valid critism about our style of play, but no calls for Malky's head as far as I'm aware.

After we scored Barnsley threw everything at us in a 343 formation as they needed a point desperately. They got lucky with the goal. I don't think it was a conscious decision to play defensively - Barnsley threw the kitchen sink at us and got a break. The main fault was that we had had enough chances to have been 3 up long before then.

That is the most important point raised by this thread. For all of MM's qualities the one thing I can't understand is why we don't convert a higher number of the numerous chances we create?

Hat's off to him for improving our set piece scoring record but from open play we seem to labour and over egg far too much. Next season chances will be of a premium so we have to learn to be far more clinical in front of goal.

Tony it will probably surprise you that only once since our return to this level have we had a lower goal scoring conversion rate, in season 2009-10 when we scored a goal every 6.81 attempts at goal. This season so far we score every 7.31 attempts at goal. Our average of 1.60 goals per game is also the best since our return to this level so scoring goals in open play or at set pieces in not really a concern.

This season it is also taking our opponents more attempts at goal to score, 10.70, than any season since our return to this level. But we are conceding average of a goal a game which is the worst for 7 years.

On tuesday Barnsley scored a freak goal from a double deflection, I was right behind it and Marshall had moved to cover the first shot then it deflected off the foot of Barnett onto Fosters shin in the opposite direction to which Marshall was moving.

No doubt in my mind we conceded because we sat back and invited Barnsley to find a way of playing through us, as we did when Coventry scored in the 96th minute in the 2-2 draw last season.

Helguson should have scored and he should have got a header on target but he didn't. I just wish that when we play teams who are struggling we go at them when the game opens up and not retreat to the edge of our pentaly area to see the game out.

After we scored Barnsley threw everything at us in a 343 formation as they needed a point desperately. They got lucky with the goal. I don't think it was a conscious decision to play defensively - Barnsley threw the kitchen sink at us and got a break. The main fault was that we had had enough chances to have been 3 up long before then.

That is the most important point raised by this thread. For all of MM's qualities the one thing I can't understand is why we don't convert a higher number of the numerous chances we create?

Hat's off to him for improving our set piece scoring record but from open play we seem to labour and over egg far too much. Next season chances will be of a premium so we have to learn to be far more clinical in front of goal.

Tony it will probably surprise you that only once since our return to this level have we had a lower goal scoring conversion rate, in season 2009-10 when we scored a goal every 6.81 attempts at goal. This season so far we score every 7.31 attempts at goal. Our average of 1.60 goals per game is also the best since our return to this level so scoring goals in open play or at set pieces in not really a concern.

This season it is also taking our opponents more attempts at goal to score, 10.70, than any season since our return to this level. But we are conceding average of a goal a game which is the worst for 7 years.

On tuesday Barnsley scored a freak goal from a double deflection, I was right behind it and Marshall had moved to cover the first shot then it deflected off the foot of Barnett onto Fosters shin in the opposite direction to which Marshall was moving.

No doubt in my mind we conceded because we sat back and invited Barnsley to find a way of playing through us, as we did when Coventry scored in the 96th minute in the 2-2 draw last season.

Helguson should have scored and he should have got a header on target but he didn't. I just wish that when we play teams who are struggling we go at them when the game opens up and not retreat to the edge of our pentaly area to see the game out.

I agree that we sat back, but IMO it was only from about the 80th minute and not immediately after scoring, as it is my belief that Barnsley pushed us back for a while, after they made their substitutions and changed their formation, which took us a while to get to grips with them throwing so many men forward.

However, we certainly sat back for the last 10 minutes plus added on time (even though we had at least a couple of good chances in this period as well), but as I asked earlier in the thread, was the sitting back due to Malky, or was it down to the team?

I ask this question, as I saw Malky waving the defence forward late on. making me believe that the sitting back was down to the team and not Malky!

Can I just remind people of a couple of things before I start :

1 Cardiff 41 24 80
2 Hull 41 11 74
3 Watford 41 25 71

We have been top for 19 weeks, since November 24th 2012, we have not been in the top flight since 1961/62 season. Malky Mackay is just about to complete only his second season as manager of our great club and he delivered a Carling Cup Final appearance, secured a play-off place and has kept our team top of the division for nearly 5 months in a notoriously difficult league.

I understand and feel the disappointment at a late leveller like last night, I empathise with some of the criticism of team selection and substitutions, I believe that Malky is a studious manager, a manager who will err on the side of caution, a manager who sets up not to lose as opposed to going all out for the win but regardless of faults he has already overachieved last season and is destined to deliver on the goal of automatic promotion in only his second season.

Why oh why are there calls for the manager to be replaced EVEN if we get promoted automatically is beyond belief in my opinion. When clubs have got promoted to the Premier League, I find it disgusting when they sack their managers who took them there, during the first season, especially when those clubs are doing ok in the Premier League, shows a lack of class, I pray we don't become one of those clubs.

But for some of our fans want him gone before the start of next season is truly shocking, I have written previously that is very little loyalty in football but I thought that was between the walls of the day to day running of clubs, I didn't expect it to come from the stands when a manager is delivering on our hopes and dreams.

Yes the football at times this season has not been brilliant, of course I would love to be the entertainers but Malky is doing what he believes will work to get us out of the division and who can argue against what he has done so far. To even think of not allowing him the opportunity to manage us in the Premier League, let alone say it, is absolutely mind blowing for me.

Sir Alex Ferguson took three and half years to deliver his first bit of success, at the giant Man Utd and nearly five years for his first title there, yet after just three years in the job there was a banner held up at Old Trafford which read "Three years of excuses and it's still crap ... ta-ra Fergie."

fergie.jpg

Do the Utd supporters still wish that Fergie was sacked back in 1989, I don't think so.

I am not saying Malky Mackay will go on to greatness or achieve anywhere near the level of success that Fergie has achieved but within the walls of the CCS he will have achieved something great for our club when he leads this team into the Premier League this season. It is what we all hoped and wished for at the start of this season and for every season since we got promoted to this division in 2003.

At the start of the season if we were offered this position of a 6 and 9 point lead over 2nd and 3rd place with 5 games to go, don't tell me any of us would have turned it down, no matter what the football or the results were like along the way, we would have simply not believed we could possibly have been in such good shape.

Have people forgotten what Malky Mackay had when he took over less than two years ago, I have not and despite any criticisms I may have of his tactics it still does not warrant any suggestion that he does not deserve the chance to further his management with us.

The negativity from some is astounding and I really think those who feel that way should just think back to the past few years when we had the big names but the lack of effort from our players and maybe even the staff at the time, there even seemed to be a lack of respect from the players and manager to even acknowledge us as fans despite where we had travelled to support them.

Let's how some class and give respect to the manager who is about to deliver the prize that we all want and have yearned for for so many years.

Carl, I'm sorry but thats waaay too sensible a post for this forum.
Malky has made mistakes no doubt, he has been too negative in some games, he hasn't always picked the right team or brought on the right subs at the right time. But, guess what? We are in the position that every other team in this feckin league would love to be. "We're Cardiff City, wer'e top of the league!"
And all this with a relatively inexperienced "kid" in charge. Don't worry about sacking Malky, we need to be more concerned about higher profile clubs, recognising that the guy has the raw talent and determination to succeed at the highest level.

Can I just remind people of a couple of things before I start :

1 Cardiff 41 24 80
2 Hull 41 11 74
3 Watford 41 25 71

We have been top for 19 weeks, since November 24th 2012, we have not been in the top flight since 1961/62 season. Malky Mackay is just about to complete only his second season as manager of our great club and he delivered a Carling Cup Final appearance, secured a play-off place and has kept our team top of the division for nearly 5 months in a notoriously difficult league.

I understand and feel the disappointment at a late leveller like last night, I empathise with some of the criticism of team selection and substitutions, I believe that Malky is a studious manager, a manager who will err on the side of caution, a manager who sets up not to lose as opposed to going all out for the win but regardless of faults he has already overachieved last season and is destined to deliver on the goal of automatic promotion in only his second season.

Why oh why are there calls for the manager to be replaced EVEN if we get promoted automatically is beyond belief in my opinion. When clubs have got promoted to the Premier League, I find it disgusting when they sack their managers who took them there, during the first season, especially when those clubs are doing ok in the Premier League, shows a lack of class, I pray we don't become one of those clubs.

But for some of our fans want him gone before the start of next season is truly shocking, I have written previously that is very little loyalty in football but I thought that was between the walls of the day to day running of clubs, I didn't expect it to come from the stands when a manager is delivering on our hopes and dreams.

Yes the football at times this season has not been brilliant, of course I would love to be the entertainers but Malky is doing what he believes will work to get us out of the division and who can argue against what he has done so far. To even think of not allowing him the opportunity to manage us in the Premier League, let alone say it, is absolutely mind blowing for me.

Sir Alex Ferguson took three and half years to deliver his first bit of success, at the giant Man Utd and nearly five years for his first title there, yet after just three years in the job there was a banner held up at Old Trafford which read "Three years of excuses and it's still crap ... ta-ra Fergie."

fergie.jpg

Do the Utd supporters still wish that Fergie was sacked back in 1989, I don't think so.

I am not saying Malky Mackay will go on to greatness or achieve anywhere near the level of success that Fergie has achieved but within the walls of the CCS he will have achieved something great for our club when he leads this team into the Premier League this season. It is what we all hoped and wished for at the start of this season and for every season since we got promoted to this division in 2003.

At the start of the season if we were offered this position of a 6 and 9 point lead over 2nd and 3rd place with 5 games to go, don't tell me any of us would have turned it down, no matter what the football or the results were like along the way, we would have simply not believed we could possibly have been in such good shape.

Have people forgotten what Malky Mackay had when he took over less than two years ago, I have not and despite any criticisms I may have of his tactics it still does not warrant any suggestion that he does not deserve the chance to further his management with us.

The negativity from some is astounding and I really think those who feel that way should just think back to the past few years when we had the big names but the lack of effort from our players and maybe even the staff at the time, there even seemed to be a lack of respect from the players and manager to even acknowledge us as fans despite where we had travelled to support them.

Let's how some class and give respect to the manager who is about to deliver the prize that we all want and have yearned for for so many years.

Carl, I'm sorry but thats waaay too sensible a post for this forum.
Malky has made mistakes no doubt, he has been too negative in some games, he hasn't always picked the right team or brought on the right subs at the right time. But, guess what? We are in the position that every other team in this feckin league would love to be. "We're Cardiff City, wer'e top of the league!"
And all this with a relatively inexperienced "kid" in charge. Don't worry about sacking Malky, we need to be more concerned about higher profile clubs, recognising that the guy has the raw talent and determination to succeed at the highest level.

Absolutely agree with you, a threat could come from an established Premier League team and if it does I do hope we manage to keep hold of Malky