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Re: Do you really want the mines to re-open..?

Thu Apr 11, 2013 1:11 pm

Bluebird since 1948 wrote:
lostcityboy wrote:
Bluebird since 1948 wrote:Do you really think the youth of today will want to work down the mines? They can't be arsed to work in poundland sitting on their arses all day. It's a tough environment and todays minors are university graduates, highly paid and highly intelligent. The truth is if the mines opened today and were like they used to be they would be filled with Eastern Europeans.

Sadly.

:old: :old:

Don,t tar all youngsters with the same brush.i went back to the pits 2yrs ago after a 15 yr absence.we have started at least a dozen mining apprentices,both electrical and mechanical.and maybe a dozen more lads as basic miner,,1 who I think is 22 yrs old,now skilled in driving a 60 ton coal cutter.theres at lease 50 on a waiting lists......there are good lads out there....don't class them as all scrounges please :old:


There are many keen beans but for every one of them there is a self pitying arsehole who lives in a workless home thinking its the norm. How many of the apprentices are from the community itself?

:old:

Sorry for a late answer,I am proud to say all the young lads are within 20 mins travelling time from the mine..no foreign imports as sutch lol :old: :old:

Re: Do you really want the mines to re-open..?

Thu Apr 11, 2013 6:37 pm

You are dam right I'd re-open them. All these chavs wonderring the roads doing nothing apart from getting pissed and smoking dope, give them something to live for. Yes the coal dust might harm them but to be fair it would svae them from the drugs and drink.

At the end of the day you can't blame people for being on the dole if you've taken all the jobs away. The best way to get people off the scrap heap is to create some fcuking jobs.

There are people who live by me who fought blood and bone against Army dressed in police uniforms to keep their jobs. They lost the year long battle so no one can complain about them living off the state now can they.

Re: Do you really want the mines to re-open..?

Thu Apr 11, 2013 8:26 pm

Berwyn wrote:You are dam right I'd re-open them. All these chavs wonderring the roads doing nothing apart from getting pissed and smoking dope, give them something to live for. Yes the coal dust might harm them but to be fair it would svae them from the drugs and drink.


Those chavs wouldn't want to do it unfortunately, a harsh reality. They are quite happy living off the state. Cut benefits and force them into working like it was back in the day. An abattoir expanded and advertised 8 new posts. None of the local unemployed youth didn't fancy it so he was forced to hire a number of Poles.

Re: Do you really want the mines to re-open..?

Thu Apr 11, 2013 8:43 pm

Health and safety would protect miners these days ,there would be more machinery so less people would be directly employed.Wait a few more years let the price rocket as the stocks run low,then re-open and charge a premium.Acquire land now :old:

Re: Do you really want the mines to re-open..?

Fri Apr 12, 2013 9:19 am

dropebluebird wrote:Health and safety would protect miners these days ,there would be more machinery so less people would be directly employed.Wait a few more years let the price rocket as the stocks run low,then re-open and charge a premium.Acquire land now :old:


Did Health and Saftey protect the miners in Swansea, Chile and New Zealand in recent times..?

Re: Do you really want the mines to re-open..?

Fri Apr 12, 2013 9:27 am

Angry Man wrote:
dropebluebird wrote:Health and safety would protect miners these days ,there would be more machinery so less people would be directly employed.Wait a few more years let the price rocket as the stocks run low,then re-open and charge a premium.Acquire land now :old:


Did Health and Saftey protect the miners in Swansea, Chile and New Zealand in recent times..?


but shit happens, you can get run over, die in a car crash, die in a plane disaster, or down a mine shaft, people die every day, its what happens!! shall we close the air ports? shall we ban cars?

Re: Do you really want the mines to re-open..?

Fri Apr 12, 2013 10:22 am

There are people who live by me who fought blood and bone against Army dressed in police uniforms to keep their jobs. They lost the year long battle so no one can complain about them living off the state now can they.

So they fought with the army (you claim)?
Why were they fighting? Surely the strike was meant to be about jobs (and a 30% pay rise, in an industry that could not sell its products) and therefore why attack people who were doing their job. Police were there to protect people and property (actually doing their proper job).

If the army were called in to help, then what does that say about the attitude of the miners?

Remember the army come from all our communities, and risk their lives to help protect us all, whereas the miners were there for their own self interests
Why didn't the miners retrain, couldn't the do anything else? Or maybe, as I heard companies would not come to South Wales because it had such a bad record for striking and industrial relations. Companies believed that the men did not want (or would not work). Maybe one reason why so many women got jobs in the factories/manufacturing industries, like cosmetics and electronics that were employing then.
Stop looking for excuses and playing the blame game (scousers are experts at it) and take responsibility for your own actions, that way you get on in life and enjoy the relatively short time we are on this earth. Not aimed at you personally but people in general who always claim it is not their fault they have no job. How do all these Polish people get jobs?

Re: Do you really want the mines to re-open..?

Sat Apr 13, 2013 12:37 am

glas wrote:There are people who live by me who fought blood and bone against Army dressed in police uniforms to keep their jobs. They lost the year long battle so no one can complain about them living off the state now can they.

So they fought with the army (you claim)?
Why were they fighting? Surely the strike was meant to be about jobs (and a 30% pay rise, in an industry that could not sell its products) and therefore why attack people who were doing their job. Police were there to protect people and property (actually doing their proper job).

If the army were called in to help, then what does that say about the attitude of the miners?

Remember the army come from all our communities, and risk their lives to help protect us all, whereas the miners were there for their own self interests
Why didn't the miners retrain, couldn't the do anything else? Or maybe, as I heard companies would not come to South Wales because it had such a bad record for striking and industrial relations. Companies believed that the men did not want (or would not work). Maybe one reason why so many women got jobs in the factories/manufacturing industries, like cosmetics and electronics that were employing then.
Stop looking for excuses and playing the blame game (scousers are experts at it) and take responsibility for your own actions, that way you get on in life and enjoy the relatively short time we are on this earth. Not aimed at you personally but people in general who always claim it is not their fault they have no job. How do all these Polish people get jobs?


Jesus, there's shallow and then there's that post.