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Re: Minutes silence or applause tonight?

Tue Apr 09, 2013 2:33 pm

The only way there's going to be a minutes silence is if they ask for a minutes applause.

Re: Minutes silence or applause tonight?

Tue Apr 09, 2013 2:37 pm

NIGELNIGLE wrote:
englishbluebird wrote:
Barry Chuckle wrote:Anyone celebrating the death of Thatcher says a lot more about them than it does Thatcher.


spot on chuckles

I'm from a Mining family/Community. I'll never forget what that Woman did to us, never. She can burn in Hell. :twisted:


I suppose you also have the same deep hatred for those who closed many mines before Thatcher then as well....would you care to name said people.....or are you just another bandwagon jumper who is doing what seems to be the fashionable labour sheep thing in terms of Thatcher.

The economy strived under Thatcher. She closed mines but she did not close most of them yet the person responsible for the closure of a larger percentage of them is barely hated.

It seems fashionable in the modern times to hate Thatcher just because others are hating her. More than half the people I've spoke to haven't got one iota about the true impact she had on this nation as a whole. Many think she ruined this country but no she didn't. If it wasn't for today many families would be living in highly inflated rental properties, a lot more than that of current or they'd have high mortgages to pay if they could get one.

Lets look at some facts..

The only prime minister to increase her majority in the second term.
The longest serving prime minister.
Inflation rates around 12% when she came in were reduced to about 3% when she left.
The only prime minister to have lower unemployment when she left than when she was elected.
Taxes rates reduced from 80% to 40%.
Growth in the 7 consecutive years the economy grew averaged 3.7%.

You know what every debate on Thatcher boils down to when you destroy any argument in terms of economic reform, 'she took my milk' and thats the truth. If thats not clutching at straws I dont know what is.

Re: Minutes silence or applause tonight?

Tue Apr 09, 2013 2:50 pm

All Black Everything. wrote:
NIGELNIGLE wrote:
englishbluebird wrote:
Barry Chuckle wrote:Anyone celebrating the death of Thatcher says a lot more about them than it does Thatcher.


spot on chuckles

I'm from a Mining family/Community. I'll never forget what that Woman did to us, never. She can burn in Hell. :twisted:


I suppose you also have the same deep hatred for those who closed many mines before Thatcher then as well....would you care to name said people.....or are you just another bandwagon jumper who is doing what seems to be the fashionable labour sheep thing in terms of Thatcher.

The economy strived under Thatcher. She closed mines but she did not close most of them yet the person responsible for the closure of a larger percentage of them is barely hated.

It seems fashionable in the modern times to hate Thatcher just because others are hating her. More than half the people I've spoke to haven't got one iota about the true impact she had on this nation as a whole. Many think she ruined this country but no she didn't. If it wasn't for today many families would be living in highly inflated rental properties, a lot more than that of current or they'd have high mortgages to pay if they could get one.

Lets look at some facts..

The only prime minister to increase her majority in the second term.
The longest serving prime minister.
Inflation rates around 12% when she came in were reduced to about 3% when she left.
The only prime minister to have lower unemployment when she left than when she was elected.
Taxes rates reduced from 80% to 40%.
Growth in the 7 consecutive years the economy grew averaged 3.7%.

You know what every debate on Thatcher boils down to when you destroy any argument in terms of economic reform, 'she took my milk' and thats the truth. If thats not clutching at straws I dont know what is.

shut up.

she was a c**t.

you know it.

i know it.

we all know it.

stop talking sense.

she was a c**t.

Re: Minutes silence or applause tonight?

Tue Apr 09, 2013 2:55 pm

Barry Chuckle wrote:Anyone celebrating the death of Thatcher says a lot more about them than it does Thatcher.

I agree

Re: Minutes silence or applause tonight?

Tue Apr 09, 2013 2:58 pm

didn't really want to get into this, but can't let this pass I'm afraid.

my mortgage rate was 15% in 1989, a direct result of the monetary policy dictated by Thatcher's govt to the Bank of England; in 1997 Gordon Brown and Tony Blair removed political interference from dictating the BoE base rate
inflation was not 3% in 1990 - it took until 1992 to achieve that figure - average inflation in 1990 was 5.4%
national unemployment trebled in the first two years of her premiership
regional unemployment was in places (like Wales and Scotland) extreme - in others (like the SE of England) it was minimal

the worst of her problems was she appeared not to care - whether she did or not is not in the public domain, so you are left with her policies and their affect to make your judgement; I was 18 when she was first elected, my father ran his own building business in Cardiff and I understood that 'something' had to be done after the chaos of the 70s. But she was too much - if only that madman from Plymouth hadn't worn his donkey jacket to the cenotaph, or the Argies had stayed at home in 1982, things might well have been different...

Kicking people in the shitbox and going 'yah boo suckers' (I paraphrase for effect) was not going to endear her to those people she was kicking, or those like me who empathised with those on the receiving end.

She also defended the apartheid regime in South Africa - for that I will always place her in the same spot as those other deluded Tories who used to go on about 'kith and kin'.

I for one would feel hypocritical if I participated in anything to mark her passing at the ground tonight - it isn't appropriate, in my view. I do not condone booing or anything like that to a dead person, she was a mother and grandmother and their private grief should be respected, but it has no place at our stadium tonight or on any other day.

Let's get back to the football boys.

Up the City :ayatollah:

Re: Minutes silence or applause tonight?

Tue Apr 09, 2013 3:00 pm

AbsolutelyFearless wrote:shut up.

she was a c**t.

you know it.

i know it.

we all know it.

stop talking sense.

she was a c**t.


:laughing6: :laughing6: :ayatollah: :thumbright:

Re: Minutes silence or applause tonight?

Tue Apr 09, 2013 3:01 pm

oh yea, and "we are a grandmother" ffs

"Thatch the snatch" - and I don't mean "for the over 18s only".

Off to be sick now, sorry boys... :oops:

Re: Minutes silence or applause tonight?

Tue Apr 09, 2013 3:05 pm

I think some people got it wrong.

When John Major took over 28 November 1990

Interest rates were 14%

http://www.propertyinvestmentproject.co ... trates.php

Re: Minutes silence or applause tonight?

Tue Apr 09, 2013 3:18 pm

Have you had a personality transplant Barnett? Only last year you were less than impressed by her.

RedBluebird wrote:Yeah i'll continue to abuse her as well like the vile and vindictive bitch she is. May she rot in hell.


RedBluebird wrote:Thatcher isn't a stupid woman. She is in fact very smart, very manipulate and got her own way a lot of time by being an evil bint. She ruined people's lives and many from our home nation.


RedBluebird wrote:State funeral for an evil vindictive cow like that? No wonder people decide not to pay a lot of tax. It could be money better spent helping those decent members of society, those in care, etc. to get a foot in life.


RedBluebird wrote:She should just be strapped to the underside of a military plane on route to a war zone and dropped straight into a volcano.


viewtopic.php?f=2&t=92274&p=899348&hilit=+thatcher#p899348

More going against the grain from Barnett. At least you are consistent in being inconsistent.

Re: Minutes silence or applause tonight?

Tue Apr 09, 2013 3:18 pm

Interest rates rose to its peak of 17% in November 1979.

At the time of her election in May 1979 the base rate was 12%.

Another fact you got wrong

Re: Minutes silence or applause tonight?

Tue Apr 09, 2013 3:29 pm

I'm from a Mining family/Community. I'll never forget what that Woman did to us, never. She can burn in Hell.


+1

Re: Minutes silence or applause tonight?

Tue Apr 09, 2013 3:33 pm

Bluebird since 1948 wrote:
viewtopic.php?f=2&t=92274&p=899348&hilit=+thatcher#p899348

More going against the grain from Barnett. At least you are consistent in being inconsistent.


That was a troll account as you know.

Re: Minutes silence or applause tonight?

Tue Apr 09, 2013 4:19 pm

Without going into the reasons why she's hated in south Wales, she also hated football fans, and when Hillsborough happened she covered up the truth and blamed the very people she hated.
Why should she even get a mention in any kind of official announcement tonight?

Re: Minutes silence or applause tonight?

Tue Apr 09, 2013 4:24 pm

All Black Everything. wrote:
Bluebird since 1948 wrote:
viewtopic.php?f=2&t=92274&p=899348&hilit=+thatcher#p899348

More going against the grain from Barnett. At least you are consistent in being inconsistent.


That was a troll account as you know.

How the f**k are you in uni ?