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Re: Margaret Thatcher - Lover her or Hate her Poll

Mon Apr 08, 2013 6:41 pm

ihatealiens wrote:she hasn't been dead a day yet and already half the furnaces in hell are closed down :lol:



And the other half are being converted from coal to gas. ;)

Re: Margaret Thatcher - Lover her or Hate her Poll

Tue Apr 09, 2013 10:16 am

hmmmmmm.........looks like 27% of the mb love Mrs Thatcher - not that bad really - I was expecting less.

Re: Margaret Thatcher - Lover her or Hate her Poll

Tue Apr 09, 2013 10:24 am

Serves that heartless cow right, good riddance. I shall be dancing on her grave :wave:

Re: Margaret Thatcher - Lover her or Hate her Poll

Tue Apr 09, 2013 10:31 am

she chose BANKS over industry

Re: Margaret Thatcher - Lover her or Hate her Poll

Tue Apr 09, 2013 10:47 am

john52 wrote:she chose BANKS over industry


Manufacturing would still be he if we bought British intead of cheap imports.

Germany has a highly skilled and well paid manufacturing sector because Germans bought German made goods.

Re: Margaret Thatcher - Lover her or Hate her Poll

Tue Apr 09, 2013 11:17 am

Die Walkure wrote:hmmmmmm.........looks like 27% of the mb love Mrs Thatcher - not that bad really - I was expecting less.


I was expecting a wider split too

Re: Margaret Thatcher - Lover her or Hate her Poll

Tue Apr 09, 2013 12:28 pm

The Griff wrote:
Neath Bluebird wrote:
abergblue wrote:
The_Onion_Knight wrote:
The Sheriff wrote:I cannot comment on peoples opinions because I wasn't around at the time. I find it funny 15 years olds on Facebook giving it the big one, they'd shit themselves infront of her. She had the strongest backbone ever.


Yeah they don't have a clue :lol:

Strong backbone yes but created quite the divide in classes



Or was it Arthur Scargill?
Or maybe wimps like Foot and Kinnock?


Arthur Scargill did what his members wanted, we voted to strike - he carried it out. We voted to save our jobs and our communities. I know it is hard for some to understand if they were not about duriing 1984-85, but she tried to murder us and split the community.


bollocks you fucked it up by striking should have got on with the job shot yourselves in the foot


They went on strike because Thatcher started shutting down pits with years and years worth of coal still there to be mined, at the same time threatening whole communities. So if they tried to "get on with the job" it wouldn't have been long before they had no jobs to get on with. The miners had no choice but to fight for their jobs and their communities. She knew what she was doing, it was a deliberate attempt to force a show down...and it worked. Evil bitch.

Re: Margaret Thatcher - Lover her or Hate her Poll

Tue Apr 09, 2013 12:45 pm

moonboots wrote:
The Griff wrote:
Neath Bluebird wrote:
abergblue wrote:
The_Onion_Knight wrote:
The Sheriff wrote:I cannot comment on peoples opinions because I wasn't around at the time. I find it funny 15 years olds on Facebook giving it the big one, they'd shit themselves infront of her. She had the strongest backbone ever.


Yeah they don't have a clue :lol:

Strong backbone yes but created quite the divide in classes



Or was it Arthur Scargill?
Or maybe wimps like Foot and Kinnock?


Arthur Scargill did what his members wanted, we voted to strike - he carried it out. We voted to save our jobs and our communities. I know it is hard for some to understand if they were not about duriing 1984-85, but she tried to murder us and split the community.


bollocks you fucked it up by striking should have got on with the job shot yourselves in the foot


They went on strike because Thatcher started shutting down pits with years and years worth of coal still there to be mined, at the same time threatening whole communities. So if they tried to "get on with the job" it wouldn't have been long before they had no jobs to get on with. The miners had no choice but to fight for their jobs and their communities. She knew what she was doing, it was a deliberate attempt to force a show down...and it worked. Evil bitch.


Why hasn't the private sector re-open the mines?

Re: Margaret Thatcher - Lover her or Hate her Poll

Tue Apr 09, 2013 1:01 pm

They have aberpergwm to name one and its closed again by global firm Walter energy.

Re: Margaret Thatcher - Lover her or Hate her Poll

Tue Apr 09, 2013 2:02 pm

People hate Thatcher for the same reason people hate United and the rest of the Championship hates us, because we are great.

If Thatcher was so bad tell me why no politician since has ever reverted back to the policies in the 70's? Because most politicians know that when it comes down to it the woman was right and it hurts them like a thorn in the heart.

Economy-Unemployment, inflation dramatically cut, caused economic boom. A+
Public Services- used privatisation to make them more efficient. A
International-Asserted rights of British citizens (Falklands), put pressure on USSR, best ever relationship with USA. A++

We need to bring her back to life and make her PM as Zombie Thatcher. :malky:

Re: Margaret Thatcher - Lover her or Hate her Poll

Tue Apr 09, 2013 2:09 pm

FAO big boss man:

Because when you close a mine it floods and it costs millions to re-open. Generally regarded as uneconomic is my understanding once a mine has been shut. Are you saying there are not coal reserves in South Wales and Yorkshire? I have no proof either way but I remember that it was generally accepted at the time these pits were being closed prematurely.

Re: Margaret Thatcher - Lover her or Hate her Poll

Tue Apr 09, 2013 2:15 pm

moonboots wrote:FAO big boss man:

Because when you close a mine it floods and it costs millions to re-open. Generally regarded as uneconomic is my understanding once a mine has been shut. Are you saying there are not coal reserves in South Wales and Yorkshire? I have no proof either way but I remember that it was generally accepted at the time these pits were being closed prematurely.


Simply that private sector hasn't come in to mine.

Re: Margaret Thatcher - Lover her or Hate her Poll

Tue Apr 09, 2013 3:02 pm

If Thatcher destroyed Wales and made us all so poor then why did she in the 1983 election win 14 constituencies in Wales, the most any tory leader has ever garnered? What does that say about us or more importantly about her?

Re: Margaret Thatcher - Lover her or Hate her Poll

Tue Apr 09, 2013 3:34 pm

Bluebird since 1948 wrote:If Thatcher destroyed Wales and made us all so poor then why did she in the 1983 election win 14 constituencies in Wales, the most any tory leader has ever garnered? What does that say about us or more importantly about her?

could it be...that she may have been right? :lol:

Re: Margaret Thatcher - Lover her or Hate her Poll

Tue Apr 09, 2013 3:37 pm

Bluebird since 1948 wrote:If Thatcher destroyed Wales and made us all so poor then why did she in the 1983 election win 14 constituencies in Wales, the most any tory leader has ever garnered? What does that say about us or more importantly about her?



Michael Mackintosh Foot, the gang of 4 and thier SDP helped her into that landslide victory as the alternatives frightened everyone shitless.

Personally I think we got it absolutely right. ;)



:old: :old: :old:

Re: Margaret Thatcher - Lover her or Hate her Poll

Fri Apr 12, 2013 12:16 pm

Big Boss Man wrote:
moonboots wrote:FAO big boss man:

Because when you close a mine it floods and it costs millions to re-open. Generally regarded as uneconomic is my understanding once a mine has been shut. Are you saying there are not coal reserves in South Wales and Yorkshire? I have no proof either way but I remember that it was generally accepted at the time these pits were being closed prematurely.


Simply that private sector hasn't come in to mine.


But they wouldn't if the start-up costs were massive due to the flooding :ayatollah:

Re: Margaret Thatcher - Lover her or Hate her Poll

Fri Apr 12, 2013 12:27 pm

All Black Everything. wrote:People hate Thatcher for the same reason people hate United and the rest of the Championship hates us, because we are great.

If Thatcher was so bad tell me why no politician since has ever reverted back to the policies in the 70's? Because most politicians know that when it comes down to it the woman was right and it hurts them like a thorn in the heart.

Economy-Unemployment, inflation dramatically cut, caused economic boom. A+
Public Services- used privatisation to make them more efficient. A
International-Asserted rights of British citizens (Falklands), put pressure on USSR, best ever relationship with USA. A++

We need to bring her back to life and make her PM as Zombie Thatcher. :malky:


Hmmmm unemployment was a record 12% within 2 years of her taking office.
Lowered inflation......by increasing interest rates to an astonishing level.
VAT risen from 8% to 15%
De-regulated the banking sector (thats worked really well)
Poll tax
Lowered top brand tax bracket by over 20% and raised lower bands.
Sold everything that wasnt nailed down so we now pay extortiante prices for energy.
Took out her hate of Scargill on 150,000 minors.
Sold all council houses......now we are in a housing crisis!
Took away kids milk and made singular lunch menus at schools of burger and chips (now we live in a nation of fatties)
Destroyed communities

Yeah.....she was great!

Re: Margaret Thatcher - Lover her or Hate her Poll

Fri Apr 12, 2013 1:22 pm

CraigCCFC wrote:
All Black Everything. wrote:People hate Thatcher for the same reason people hate United and the rest of the Championship hates us, because we are great.

If Thatcher was so bad tell me why no politician since has ever reverted back to the policies in the 70's? Because most politicians know that when it comes down to it the woman was right and it hurts them like a thorn in the heart.

Economy-Unemployment, inflation dramatically cut, caused economic boom. A+
Public Services- used privatisation to make them more efficient. A
International-Asserted rights of British citizens (Falklands), put pressure on USSR, best ever relationship with USA. A++

We need to bring her back to life and make her PM as Zombie Thatcher. :malky:


Hmmmm unemployment was a record 12% within 2 years of her taking office.
Lowered inflation......by increasing interest rates to an astonishing level.
VAT risen from 8% to 15%
De-regulated the banking sector (thats worked really well)
Poll tax
Lowered top brand tax bracket by over 20% and raised lower bands.
Sold everything that wasnt nailed down so we now pay extortiante prices for energy.
Took out her hate of Scargill on 150,000 minors.
Sold all council houses......now we are in a housing crisis!
Took away kids milk and made singular lunch menus at schools of burger and chips (now we live in a nation of fatties)
Destroyed communities

Yeah.....she was great!


Struggle to get all that on her headstone :lol: :ayatollah:

Re: Margaret Thatcher - Lover her or Hate her Poll

Fri Apr 12, 2013 1:27 pm

Where is the "Couldnt give a flying f*ck either way" option :malky:

Re: Margaret Thatcher - Lover her or Hate her Poll

Fri Apr 12, 2013 4:52 pm

Mario Polotelli wrote:Where is the "Couldnt give a flying f*ck either way" option :malky:

not voting at all?

Re: Margaret Thatcher - Lover her or Hate her Poll

Fri Apr 12, 2013 7:55 pm

Anarch0 wrote:Serves that heartless cow right, good riddance. I shall be dancing on her grave :wave:

Really do you know where it is?

Re: Margaret Thatcher - Lover her or Hate her Poll

Fri Apr 12, 2013 8:03 pm

Big Boss Man wrote:
john52 wrote:she chose BANKS over industry


Manufacturing would still be here if we bought British intead of cheap imports.

Germany has a highly skilled and well paid manufacturing sector because Germans bought German made goods.


Really so you would rather pay a lot more for you're electrical I things, because we have become a nation of lazy bastards!

As a nation we would rather receive cheap goods from China, because we can't be arsed making them ourselves.

Our fields are full of Poles, picking our vegetables, because we think it is above us.

We want the dream of the in tray and out tray.

It's as simple as that!

Re: Margaret Thatcher - Lover her or Hate her Poll

Fri Apr 12, 2013 8:05 pm

That meant to say below us :oops:

Re: Margaret Thatcher - Lover her or Hate her Poll

Sun Apr 21, 2013 9:19 pm

All Black Everything. wrote:People hate Thatcher for the same reason people hate United and the rest of the Championship hates us, because we are great.

If Thatcher was so bad tell me why no politician since has ever reverted back to the policies in the 70's? Because most politicians know that when it comes down to it the woman was right and it hurts them like a thorn in the heart.

Economy-Unemployment, inflation dramatically cut, caused economic boom. A+
Public Services- used privatisation to make them more efficient. A
International-Asserted rights of British citizens (Falklands), put pressure on USSR, best ever relationship with USA. A++

We need to bring her back to life and make her PM as Zombie Thatcher. :malky:


She didn't lower unemployment at all, she used a sneaky tactic of putting the redundant steal and coal workers on incapacity benefit, meaning they didn't count on unemployment charts. Clever move but let's not forget that's why unemployment seemed low but infact wasn't.