QUESTION FOR PRO-BLUES

100% Yes.

What makes you think we couldn't achieve promotion in blue?,if your reply is because of tans money,yet again,who's to say we wouldn't have had different owners?

Yeah, like they were queueing up to take us over in 2010

The Malaysians only took a gamble,nothing stopping any other business man doing the same,if u like red that's your choose,not that I respect your decision to do so

100% Yes.

You NOT there next season then, JonCCFC?

I'd respect you for taking that decision if you feel so (100%) strongly

What makes you think we couldn't achieve promotion in blue?,if your reply is because of tans money,yet again,who's to say we wouldn't have had different owners?

Yeah, like they were queueing up to take us over in 2010

The Malaysians only took a gamble,nothing stopping any other business man doing the same,if u like red that's your choose,not that I respect your decision to do so

After a good previous statement you then come out with this

Of course they took a gamble. That's what people like Tan do but the simpe fact is that no-one else came in at a time when they were needed, so your comment is simply daft

It's only my personal opinion (the same as the rest of you ) but I genuinely believe that anyone who answered 'yes' above doesn't have the 'best interests' of Cardiff City FC at heart

Depends what you call best interests. Mine are the identity of the club and we have lost that since the start of this season. In fact I cannot ever see us returning to what everyone associates us with.

100% Yes.

You NOT there next season then, JonCCFC?

I'd respect you for taking that decision if you feel so (100%) strongly

Why wouldn't I be there? We were asked what we'd prefer and I'd prefer to play in blue. Simple.

YES!

Talk is cheap!

obviously the answer will always be yes to the "pro blues" btw I hate that pro blues and pro reds saying how about calling everyone Cardiff fans with a difference of opinions! no matter what you're beliefs are on the rebrand you are still a supporter of Cardiff city, i hated the idea at first then after rethinking and weighing all options up i came to conclusion that it was only option we had to survive so i let tan get on with things BUT if the BLUEBIRD goes then i will not be happy but i wont let the colour of the home shirt make me be bitter to tan or the clubs fans aslong as there is a bluebird and we are called Cardiff city we should all get along.

Would you trade our current position and sacrifice everything we have and swap it with Bristol and return to blue with the bluebird etc..?

Without question. I'd give anything for our club back! The promotion about to be gained feels quite hollow in red TBH

Yep although I never thought in my lifetime cardiff city would or could get in the prem/div 1

I'd rather shag your missus whilst you watch. Hope that clears my stance up.

I'd rather shag your missus whilst you watch. Hope that clears my stance up.

No chance.

Its about supporting Cardiff City not the colour of a shirt.

What makes you think we couldn't achieve promotion in blue?,if your reply is because of tans money,yet again,who's to say we wouldn't have had different owners?

Yeah, like they were queueing up to take us over in 2010

The Malaysians only took a gamble,nothing stopping any other business man doing the same,if u like red that's your choose,not that I respect your decision to do so

After a good previous statement you then come out with this

Of course they took a gamble. That's what people like Tan do but the simpe fact is that no-one else came in at a time when they were needed, so your comment is simply daft

Where was the gamble for the sheik who bought into man city then ???yes they were already a prem side but they weren't exactly top were they

What makes you think we couldn't achieve promotion in blue?,if your reply is because of tans money,yet again,who's to say we wouldn't have had different owners?

Yeah, like they were queueing up to take us over in 2010

The Malaysians only took a gamble,nothing stopping any other business man doing the same,if u like red that's your choose,not that I respect your decision to do so

After a good previous statement you then come out with this

Of course they took a gamble. That's what people like Tan do but the simpe fact is that no-one else came in at a time when they were needed, so your comment is simply daft

Where was the gamble for the sheik who bought into man city then ???yes they were already a prem side but they weren't exactly top were they

The reality of the situation is that if VT hadn't come in in 2010, we would in all likelihood have ceased to exist or at best ended up at least a couple of divisions lower than the Championship in a very quick space of time.

The situation last summer was even worse, and if VT had "looked for other buyers" as he'd said he was going to if the changes had not been made, the reality is that no other buyers would have been found (as we would have been in a far worse situation than the one we were in in 2010), and we would have ended up being liquidated - at least, that's my honest view of the situation, and I can't see logically how anyone else can take a different view - the usual response is to say VT said that wouldn't happen, but only a fool of a businessman would continue to waste a million pounds of his money a month on a failing business, and whatever you think of VT, I don't think many would say he's a business fool.

The colour for me is no big deal, and I still believe that it will be a number of years before we see the benefit of the change to red, as we need to become established in the Premiership first, but I firmly believe that VT has a long term, not a short term plan to make our club truly great.

I suppose its a simple matter of do you trust VT's business acumen - I do, but many others clearly don't and would prefer to be in blue whatever the consequences - I fully respect their views, but will never agree with them.

Surely we are all pro blues aren't we? I mean surely to god there wasn't a single City fan that wasn't delighted to see us play in our real colour yesterday?

Would you trade our current position and sacrifice everything we have and swap it with Bristol and return to blue with the bluebird etc..?

On field investment could have come without the off field changes so the question is a pointless one

Would you trade our current position and sacrifice everything we have and swap it with Bristol and return to blue with the bluebird etc..?

On field investment could have come without the off field changes so the question is a pointless one

The OP like many many others is under the impression that without the rebrand investment to the team would have not happened. My opinion is that was a scare tactic.

Would you trade our current position and sacrifice everything we have and swap it with Bristol and return to blue with the bluebird etc..?

On field investment could have come without the off field changes so the question is a pointless one

From where? and why would they not have come forward when we were likely to be wound up?

Would you trade our current position and sacrifice everything we have and swap it with Bristol and return to blue with the bluebird etc..?

On field investment could have come without the off field changes so the question is a pointless one

The OP like many many others is under the impression that without the rebrand investment to the team would have not happened. My opinion is that was a scare tactic.

I actually believe what you say, I really can't believe the HMRC would put us under, ther must be lot's of clubs around that they have let off, even a few Scottish ones.

Would you trade our current position and sacrifice everything we have and swap it with Bristol and return to blue with the bluebird etc..?

On field investment could have come without the off field changes so the question is a pointless one

The OP like many many others is under the impression that without the rebrand investment to the team would have not happened. My opinion is that was a scare tactic.

I actually believe what you say, I really can't believe the HMRC would put us under, ther must be lot's of clubs around that they have let off, even a few Scottish ones.

Tan needs us in the premier be it to either see his vision through or cut his losses. If we remained in the championship or went out of business that would be too much of a loss of face for Tan.

Felt strange watching the team play in blue yesterday, got used to the red now.

Yes in a heart beat

Would you trade our current position and sacrifice everything we have and swap it with Bristol and return to blue with the bluebird etc..?

On field investment could have come without the off field changes so the question is a pointless one

From where? and why would they not have come forward when we were likely to be wound up?

From the Malaysians gwyn . No good business rational behind off field changes . Asian market bollocks . Cardiff and valleys catchment is f*cking huge never mind Asia . Good reason why much bigger clubs that hours have never gone for the Malaysian market . Mike Ashley is a shrewd business man , don't see the Geordies playing in red . Much bigger club / potential

Would you trade our current position and sacrifice everything we have and swap it with Bristol and return to blue with the bluebird etc..?

On field investment could have come without the off field changes so the question is a pointless one

From where? and why would they not have come forward when we were likely to be wound up?

From the Malaysians gwyn . No good business rational behind off field changes . Asian market bollocks . Cardiff and valleys catchment is f*cking huge never mind Asia . Good reason why much bigger clubs that hours have never gone for the Malaysian market . Mike Ashley is a shrewd business man , don't see the Geordies playing in red . Much bigger club / potential

"Than ours" even

Would you trade our current position and sacrifice everything we have and swap it with Bristol and return to blue with the bluebird etc..?

On field investment could have come without the off field changes so the question is a pointless one

From where? and why would they not have come forward when we were likely to be wound up?

From the Malaysians gwyn . No good business rational behind off field changes . Asian market bollocks . Cardiff and valleys catchment is f*cking huge never mind Asia . Good reason why much bigger clubs that hours have never gone for the Malaysian market . Mike Ashley is a shrewd business man , don't see the Geordies playing in red . Much bigger club / potential

That's because you're thinking in a small minded way - with VT in charge of us, we can be much bigger than Newcastle.

100% Yes.

You NOT there next season then, JonCCFC?

I'd respect you for taking that decision if you feel so (100%) strongly

Why wouldn't I be there? We were asked what we'd prefer and I'd prefer to play in blue. Simple.

Actually, it asked (quote) "if we would sacrifice everything?" and you stated 100%, hence my question

It's only my personal opinion (the same as the rest of you ) but I genuinely believe that anyone who answered 'yes' above doesn't have the 'best interests' of Cardiff City FC at heart

Depends what you call best interests. Mine are the identity of the club and we have lost that since the start of this season. In fact I cannot ever see us returning to what everyone associates us with.

But we haven't lost our identity. We are still Cardiff City FC and have simply 'evolved' in order to progess. That's nature

As for "what people associate us with" I think even you will agree that there are many 'associated' things the club (and most supporters) will be only too glad to leave behind

It's only my personal opinion (the same as the rest of you ) but I genuinely believe that anyone who answered 'yes' above doesn't have the 'best interests' of Cardiff City FC at heart

Depends what you call best interests. Mine are the identity of the club and we have lost that since the start of this season. In fact I cannot ever see us returning to what everyone associates us with.

But we haven't lost our identity. We are still Cardiff City FC and have simply 'evolved' in order to progess. That's nature

As for "what people associate us with" I think even you will agree that there are many 'associated' things the club (and most supporters) will be only too glad to leave behind

Sorry just don't agree with your evolved theory.