Were the old days that good?

Like most clubs ,following City has been a roller coaster ride to hell and back. I go back a lot more than most on here, so I'm talking about the times of Peter Rodrigues, Colin Baker ,Graham Vearncombe, Dilwyn John,( Also very good Snooker Player) & so on & so on right up to today.
I Believe its the age you start watch a team, The first game is always Magical ( especially under floodlights in the evening in the winter, & even more so if you win well ) That is when you look back and think the old days were the best.
There was a Magic about Ninian Park yes ! But kids that has only just started to go to the City in the last few season, would say our ground now to them is Magical .
There are games that you think you should win & dont, there are games you know your going to get hammered in , and win, then you have game that you have been looking forwards to all season ,which turn out to be a real let down. This is the Magic of this game we all love & some times Hate.
So when you look back at the Old days as you call them, you take out of the old days what you want to remember , & try your best to forget the shit times ,but you forget them with a smile on your face.

Dilwyn John was also and still is a very fine golfer, still representing Glamorgan at Senior Amateur County level, not to mention (I believe) represnting Wales in Baseballs in his pomp! A lovely bloke too, one of the best.

I honestly believe those who harp back to the 'Ninian Days' of 70/80/90's do so out of nostalgia for their younger days rather than anything else.

The football was absolutely dire (a couple of notable seasons apart) but if you were a hooligan or just a piss head then football and Cardiff in particular was the place to be.

That generation has now grown into middle age and can’t indulge in the old practises they once did for one reason or other. That’s why we here about how brilliant the old days were, which in a way they were.

However, I’m now 51 and would prefer the club exactly as it is, playing in a modern comfortable stadium and making successful inroads into the top Escalon of English football.

Have to disagree with you there, I went along in all the years you mentioned, I'm 47 now with take my children along quite regular, so in no way am I looking to recapture my youth . I do agree totally with you about playing in a modern comfortable stadium and success on the field, my point is that the atmosphere in the new stadium is absolutely dire !

TBH buddy I think you have completely missed the point.

I started watching just before Sam came to the club. Moved here from the Midlands to go to uni, met my wife and got a 12 year old daughter who loves the football along with me. Both are committed Bluebirds.

Love the blue and against the change but if it means that much and those peoples saying rather blue in division 2. why were the crowds at Ninian park only 2 or 3 thousand during these blue periods?

Also what was the atmosphere like with only 2 or 3 thousand people at Ninian park. Was it really that good?

Propoganda merchant

No it was dire, that's why nobody went. When it was rocking, it was when we had a bigger crowd and suddenly about 4k fans jumped out of nowhere for a one off attendance.

People often see the past through rose tinted spectacles - that's the case with people's memories of Ninian Park.

It could be great, but it could also be a bad atmosphere. (People always cite the Leeds 2002 game, but the fact they always roll that one out shows it was not a common occurence).

For example, the last game of all against Ipswich Town was not that great - nowhere near as good as the atmosphere we had against Leicester in either the March game, or the Play-Off semi-final in 2010.

But why let the facts get in the way of an agenda hey

Totally agreed! And that Leicester play-off game was the best atmosphere I witnessed anywhere and that includes Millennium watching Wales against Italy!

People often see the past through rose tinted spectacles - that's the case with people's memories of Ninian Park.

It could be great, but it could also be a bad atmosphere. (People always cite the Leeds 2002 game, but the fact they always roll that one out shows it was not a common occurence).

For example, the last game of all against Ipswich Town was not that great - nowhere near as good as the atmosphere we had against Leicester in either the March game, or the Play-Off semi-final in 2010.

But why let the facts get in the way of an agenda hey

Totally agreed! And that Leicester play-off game was the best atmosphere I witnessed anywhere and that includes Millennium watching Wales against Italy!

You obviously weren't at Ninian Park when John Buchanan hit "that" free kick in from 30 yards or when Peter Sayer scored the winner in FA CUP against Spurs in 77, that's atmosphere mate!! if you honestly believe that the Leicester play off game was the best atmosphere you have ever witnessed, you must either be quite young or completely deluded !

I will stand by what I have said all along, if we were at Ninian now, in this position in the league the place would be rocking !

For whatever reason , the new stadium isn't and if we are all totally honest, something's not right !

I think a lot of us are missing the point, we all have allocated seats nowadays, where as at away games and at NP people of a like mind could group together, as it is now, we are all spread out, and surely that can't help.

People often see the past through rose tinted spectacles - that's the case with people's memories of Ninian Park.

It could be great, but it could also be a bad atmosphere. (People always cite the Leeds 2002 game, but the fact they always roll that one out shows it was not a common occurence).

For example, the last game of all against Ipswich Town was not that great - nowhere near as good as the atmosphere we had against Leicester in either the March game, or the Play-Off semi-final in 2010.

But why let the facts get in the way of an agenda hey

If you went to games back during the Eddie May era, you would admit the atmosphere back then was incredible. What about the time we took 8,000 fans to Brentford for a top of the table clash? Then we of course had the Sam Hammam era where Ninian was rocking.

Obviously, the crowd and atmosphere wasn't as good when we were struggling, but when we had successful seasons and big games, Ninian Park was the most intimidating ground for an opposing player to visit. What did Rio Ferdinand say? viewtopic.php?f=2&t=95806

Don't let these facts get in the way of YOUR agenda mind.

People often see the past through rose tinted spectacles - that's the case with people's memories of Ninian Park.

It could be great, but it could also be a bad atmosphere. (People always cite the Leeds 2002 game, but the fact they always roll that one out shows it was not a common occurence).

For example, the last game of all against Ipswich Town was not that great - nowhere near as good as the atmosphere we had against Leicester in either the March game, or the Play-Off semi-final in 2010.

But why let the facts get in the way of an agenda hey

As a kid i cant say i ever had a bad time at NP even when there were small crowds, i never went all the time but for me when i went it was always special just looking around the stadium, the smells and the buzz when the ball hit the back of the net. I couldnt wait to go back to school to tell my friends id been. And even after it pissed down id always be buzzing to go back. Can honestly say i dont think id have the love i have now for cardiff if id started watching them at the new ground, even my nephew used to be buzzing when i took him at NP the spark has gone now he rarely bothers me to take him..

You can say it was shit at NP at times, thats up to you, but for me even when it was shit it was f*cking awesome.

People often see the past through rose tinted spectacles - that's the case with people's memories of Ninian Park.

It could be great, but it could also be a bad atmosphere. (People always cite the Leeds 2002 game, but the fact they always roll that one out shows it was not a common occurence).

For example, the last game of all against Ipswich Town was not that great - nowhere near as good as the atmosphere we had against Leicester in either the March game, or the Play-Off semi-final in 2010.

But why let the facts get in the way of an agenda hey

If you went to games back during the Eddie May era, you would admit the atmosphere back then was incredible. What about the time we took 8,000 fans to Brentford for a top of the table clash? Then we of course had the Sam Hammam era where Ninian was rocking.

Obviously, the crowd and atmosphere wasn't as good when we were struggling, but when we had successful seasons and big games, Ninian Park was the most intimidating ground for an opposing player to visit. What did Rio Ferdinand say? viewtopic.php?f=2&t=95806

Don't let these facts get in the way of YOUR agenda mind.

When it was good at NP, it was the best, I can remember some great times like they were yesterday, the problem is, for every good time like Leeds etc, I can remember ten times that were crap, Being there with two or three thousand and getting beat by village teams when you could hear a pin drop was soul destroying.

Must agree with Tony Williams post, I think a lot of us think back to the period and associate it with good times, because were young and living life at a different pace, but whilst some of those times were the best eve, but some were also soul destroyingly bad and at times I would question my sanity for just turning up.

Thinking back, I used to think to myself , if i didn't turn up, then no one would and it was blind loyalty, but that went for a lot of the hard core at the time.

People often see the past through rose tinted spectacles - that's the case with people's memories of Ninian Park.

It could be great, but it could also be a bad atmosphere. (People always cite the Leeds 2002 game, but the fact they always roll that one out shows it was not a common occurence).

For example, the last game of all against Ipswich Town was not that great - nowhere near as good as the atmosphere we had against Leicester in either the March game, or the Play-Off semi-final in 2010.

But why let the facts get in the way of an agenda hey

If you went to games back during the Eddie May era, you would admit the atmosphere back then was incredible. What about the time we took 8,000 fans to Brentford for a top of the table clash? Then we of course had the Sam Hammam era where Ninian was rocking.

Obviously, the crowd and atmosphere wasn't as good when we were struggling, but when we had successful seasons and big games, Ninian Park was the most intimidating ground for an opposing player to visit. What did Rio Ferdinand say? viewtopic.php?f=2&t=95806

Don't let these facts get in the way of YOUR agenda mind.

When it was good at NP, it was the best, I can remember some great times like they were yesterday, the problem is, for every good time like Leeds etc, I can remember ten times that were crap, Being there with two or three thousand and getting beat by village teams when you could hear a pin drop was soul destroying.

Must agree with Tony Williams post, I think a lot of us think back to the period and associate it with good times, because were young and living life at a different pace, but whilst some of those times were the best eve, but some were also soul destroyingly bad and at times I would question my sanity for just turning up.

Thinking back, I used to think to myself , if i didn't turn up, then no one would and it was blind loyalty, but that went for a lot of the hard core at the time.

I'm not denying there were some bad times at Ninian. My first ever game at Ninian was in a crowd of just over 2,000 against Doncaster in the old Division 4. But I still think despite with only a couple of thousand crowds, Ninian Park was just as vociferous as our current stadium has been at times, as those couple of thousand at Ninian were diehards.

I could only imagine how bad our atmosphere would be in our current stadium if we plummeted down the divisions and had a couple of thousand attending like the old Ninian days.

Most supporters who were there view the place through rose-tinted spectacles

Both stadium and atmosphere was indeed very poor for the majority of the time and crowds were pretty sparse to say the least until a so-called 'big' game came along; be it an FA Cup tie or a juicy league fixture (usually where we had an uncanny knack of turning over top teams in their quest for promotion) or a visit from the scum down the M4

When those 'big' games did come along I doubt there was a more intimidating atmosphere in the football league. Cardiff City fans could be hostile and intimidating in the extreme toward the opposition

Overall though, IMHO what we have now and what we are about to embark on is much much better in reality

We weren't so greedy as fans back then.

We weren't so greedy as fans back then.

Got to agree with this. Over the last few seasons I've noticed the attitude of our fans has changed. More ready to slag off our players. I think we have got to accustomed to challenging for promotion and are desperate to go up.

Still can't believe that some fans by me were BOOING Whitts when he came on Monday

Loved and miss Ninian Park and witnessed some great games and fantastic atmospheres there but it's gone and how ever much we miss it we have to accept and embrace the CCS.

We have had some great games and atmospheres at the CCS but the lack of atmosphere most of the time is down to many factors which include the performance on the pitch, the fact that many who used to congregate together at Ninian Park are now scattered around the CCS and the rebrand has definitely been a factor.

Also one of the biggest factors is our recent history of failing at the last hurdle, this I believe as led to a subdued atmosphere because we are all nervous that it's all going to go wrong again but if we make it this time the pressure will be off and i believe we will be able to relax and get behind the team again andit is down to each and everyone of us to create the atmosphere.

Lets never forget Ninian Park but let's create new memories and great times at the CCS

People often see the past through rose tinted spectacles - that's the case with people's memories of Ninian Park.

It could be great, but it could also be a bad atmosphere. (People always cite the Leeds 2002 game, but the fact they always roll that one out shows it was not a common occurence).

For example, the last game of all against Ipswich Town was not that great - nowhere near as good as the atmosphere we had against Leicester in either the March game, or the Play-Off semi-final in 2010.

But why let the facts get in the way of an agenda hey

If you went to games back during the Eddie May era, you would admit the atmosphere back then was incredible. What about the time we took 8,000 fans to Brentford for a top of the table clash? Then we of course had the Sam Hammam era where Ninian was rocking.

Obviously, the crowd and atmosphere wasn't as good when we were struggling, but when we had successful seasons and big games, Ninian Park was the most intimidating ground for an opposing player to visit. What did Rio Ferdinand say? viewtopic.php?f=2&t=95806

Don't let these facts get in the way of YOUR agenda mind.

But it was also over the top intimidating for away fans a at NP. Would you had ever taken a kid to NP as an away fan?

I honestly believe those who harp back to the 'Ninian Days' of 70/80/90's do so out of nostalgia for their younger days rather than anything else.

The football was absolutely dire (a couple of notable seasons apart) but if you were a hooligan or just a piss head then football and Cardiff in particular was the place to be.

That generation has now grown into middle age and can’t indulge in the old practises they once did for one reason or other. That’s why we here about how brilliant the old days were, which in a way they were.

However, I’m now 51 and would prefer the club exactly as it is, playing in a modern comfortable stadium and making successful inroads into the top Escalon of English football.

i agree tony but the season 92 to 93 was my favourite and back in those days we had the european trips as well

I don't care about colour, but how the fk could anyone want to be in blue and go back to the days of playing top teams filled with international stars like:

Aldershot
York
Rochdale

etc

NP was a shite hole

BUT, if you compare the Atmosphere at there peak at both stadiums, no matter how bad NP was it does come out miles in front. I don't understand it myself, i know a lot of people who went to NP go to the new stad, im sure other do to.

Is it the design? or just a different type of person going?

I really think we missed a chance when there were initial plans for all those wanting to stand and sing didn't take the opportunity to group together in the Canto end, I genuinely think everyone like minded being packed together would have made a hell of a difference, but spilled milk and all that.

Another thing I think that doesn't help is most of us now watch the game, years ago the games were so crap we had to make our own fun just to keep ourselves amused and occupied.

People often see the past through rose tinted spectacles - that's the case with people's memories of Ninian Park.

It could be great, but it could also be a bad atmosphere. (People always cite the Leeds 2002 game, but the fact they always roll that one out shows it was not a common occurence).

For example, the last game of all against Ipswich Town was not that great - nowhere near as good as the atmosphere we had against Leicester in either the March game, or the Play-Off semi-final in 2010.

But why let the facts get in the way of an agenda hey

Totally agreed! And that Leicester play-off game was the best atmosphere I witnessed anywhere and that includes Millennium watching Wales against Italy!

You obviously weren't at Ninian Park when John Buchanan hit "that" free kick in from 30 yards or when Peter Sayer scored the winner in FA CUP against Spurs in 77, that's atmosphere mate!! if you honestly believe that the Leicester play off game was the best atmosphere you have ever witnessed, you must either be quite young or completely deluded !

I will stand by what I have said all along, if we were at Ninian now, in this position in the league the place would be rocking !

For whatever reason , the new stadium isn't and if we are all totally honest, something's not right !

I wasn't born until 1988 and didn't start going down Ninian Park until 1996 so I'm definitely on the young side! The atmopshere that night against Leicester gave me chills on the back of my neck and my chest hurt because my heart was pumping so fast! Epic night

People often see the past through rose tinted spectacles - that's the case with people's memories of Ninian Park.

It could be great, but it could also be a bad atmosphere. (People always cite the Leeds 2002 game, but the fact they always roll that one out shows it was not a common occurence).

For example, the last game of all against Ipswich Town was not that great - nowhere near as good as the atmosphere we had against Leicester in either the March game, or the Play-Off semi-final in 2010.

But why let the facts get in the way of an agenda hey

Totally agreed! And that Leicester play-off game was the best atmosphere I witnessed anywhere and that includes Millennium watching Wales against Italy!

You obviously weren't at Ninian Park when John Buchanan hit "that" free kick in from 30 yards or when Peter Sayer scored the winner in FA CUP against Spurs in 77, that's atmosphere mate!! if you honestly believe that the Leicester play off game was the best atmosphere you have ever witnessed, you must either be quite young or completely deluded !

I will stand by what I have said all along, if we were at Ninian now, in this position in the league the place would be rocking !

For whatever reason , the new stadium isn't and if we are all totally honest, something's not right !

I wasn't born until 1988 and didn't start going down Ninian Park until 1996 so I'm definitely on the young side! The atmopshere that night against Leicester gave me chills on the back of my neck and my chest hurt because my heart was pumping so fast! Epic night

Fair enough mate, obviously too young to remember, but as someone posted above, if you compared the two stadiums with capacity crowds there would only be one winner. Also for over 30 years Ninian never held games with the club in a league position we are in at present, I'm simply saying that if we were at Ninian now, in this league position, the atmosphere would be amazing and like an extra man for the team !

I thought the 70's was the best, we were a crap team, the crowd could fluctuate from massive to mediocre but there was always a good atmosphere.

I started watching just before Sam came to the club. Moved here from the Midlands to go to uni, met my wife and got a 12 year old daughter who loves the football along with me. Both are committed Bluebirds.

Love the blue and against the change but if it means that much and those peoples saying rather blue in division 2. why were the crowds at Ninian park only 2 or 3 thousand during these blue periods?

Also what was the atmosphere like with only 2 or 3 thousand people at Ninian park. Was it really that good?

There was little atmosphere.........away was good.

Crowds were so slow cos of our reputation and shite football.

I think it's like this, the atmosphere in any football stadium is what the fans make it. If the majority of our 22000 average crowd were to sing and show some passion rather than just the couple of sections in the Ninian stand and the groups in the Canton stand then our stadium could be rocking every home game. Fact is alot of our fans are just happy clappers or can't be arsed to sing and cheer. Having said that there has been certain games when the atmosphere has been electric, we just don't do it consistently. As for the OP, sometimes yes. Ninian Park was an old fashioned football stadium which could be very intimidating on times. Don't think alot of our happy clapper type of fans would have fancied it there.

I started watching just before Sam came to the club. Moved here from the Midlands to go to uni, met my wife and got a 12 year old daughter who loves the football along with me. Both are committed Bluebirds.

Love the blue and against the change but if it means that much and those peoples saying rather blue in division 2. why were the crowds at Ninian park only 2 or 3 thousand during these blue periods?

Also what was the atmosphere like with only 2 or 3 thousand people at Ninian park. Was it really that good?

We used to sing more with 5,000 in ninian park then we do with 25,000 in the ccs. The only thing better now is the football.

People often see the past through rose tinted spectacles - that's the case with people's memories of Ninian Park.

It could be great, but it could also be a bad atmosphere. (People always cite the Leeds 2002 game, but the fact they always roll that one out shows it was not a common occurence).

For example, the last game of all against Ipswich Town was not that great - nowhere near as good as the atmosphere we had against Leicester in either the March game, or the Play-Off semi-final in 2010.

But why let the facts get in the way of an agenda hey

Agree 100% a lot of members on here always slagging CCS off saying how great Ninian was,but im affraid it wasnt always great,far from it a lot of the times.

I started watching just before Sam came to the club. Moved here from the Midlands to go to uni, met my wife and got a 12 year old daughter who loves the football along with me. Both are committed Bluebirds.

Love the blue and against the change but if it means that much and those peoples saying rather blue in division 2. why were the crowds at Ninian park only 2 or 3 thousand during these blue periods?

Also what was the atmosphere like with only 2 or 3 thousand people at Ninian park. Was it really that good?

We used to sing more with 5,000 in ninian park then we do with 25,000 in the ccs. The only thing better now is the football.

god forbid we turn up 'just' for the football, eh??

I started watching just before Sam came to the club. Moved here from the Midlands to go to uni, met my wife and got a 12 year old daughter who loves the football along with me. Both are committed Bluebirds.

Love the blue and against the change but if it means that much and those peoples saying rather blue in division 2. why were the crowds at Ninian park only 2 or 3 thousand during these blue periods?

Also what was the atmosphere like with only 2 or 3 thousand people at Ninian park. Was it really that good?

We used to sing more with 5,000 in ninian park then we do with 25,000 in the ccs. The only thing better now is the football.

god forbid we turn up 'just' for the football, eh??

If we only turned up to watch the football, we would all be watching Barcelona play. I turn up to support my local team, regardless of the quality of football. Unfortunately, we now have a lot of fans who turn up purely to watch successful football in their local area. This may not be a bad thing, but this is the reason why the CCS has a poor atmosphere in comparison to Ninian Park with the number of ex Man Utd armchair fans who now jump on the bandwagon to see us. Obviously, these type of fans don't care what colour we play in as they never built a passionate emotional connection to our clubs identity throughout the years. Their only concern is to see successful football so they can watch their heroes like Wayne Rooney play in the flesh.

the old days were magic, in my eyes every time i stepped in ninian park it was timeless, always the same feeling before kick off. we dnt have anything anymore its so much worse even away days

The 80s were mental and brilliant all rolled into one, especially the away games