The South Wales Derby...

It's not even a derby. Two cities 40 miles away from each other! Besides, we're not up yet.

goodness me. The most fearsome Derby's are usually against clubs from other cities which are close in proximity.

If your view point is correct then the following fixtures would not be classed as a Derby.

Leeds v Manchester United

Leicester v Forest

Swindon v Oxford

Qpr v Luton

Oxford v Luton

Luton v Watford

Norwich v Ipswich

Newcastle v Sunderland

Plymouth V Exeter

Palace v Brighton

Burnley v Blackburn

there are loads

It's not even a derby. Two cities 40 miles away from each other! Besides, we're not up yet.

goodness me. The most fearsome Derby's are usually against clubs from other cities which are close in proximity.

If your view point is correct then the following fixtures would not be classed as a Derby.

Leeds v Manchester United

Leicester v Forest

Swindon v Oxford

Qpr v Luton

Oxford v Luton

Luton v Watford

Norwich v Ipswich

Newcastle v Sunderland

Plymouth V Exeter

Palace v Brighton

Burnley v Blackburn

there are loads

At last some sense!

Odds on that it'll be back next season, can't wait if I'm honest... That's about it from me, haven't been on here for a while, but your boys seem to have wrapped it up with plenty to spare. The only thing I would like to see is a bit more common sense with the travel arrangements, seems excessive being at the liberty hours before kick off for a one hour trip to your place.

It's going to brilliant and we will really be under the Sky spotlight, it will be interesting to see what they make of both games and the atmosphere ..... It will be a lively one for sure !!!!!

Its a derby game for sure. One thing I do hate though is when people say it's the most fierce in British football? Norwich/Ipswich, Derby/Forest, Manchester derby, Chelsea/Spurs, West Ham/Millwall and Soton/Pompey are just as bad if not worse.

It's the most unique derby in the county though thats for sure. Two Welsh clubs who playing the English leagues.

See, I like Scotsjack on here. Nice footballing threads. Why Twiddle, Tragic Flaps, SwanseaSpas69, 6Paedo and Badamanboob don't take a leaf out his book or just feck off is a mystery to me. Actually, it's no mystery at all. Their all Twunts.

Apologise right now or I'll start another "is the Gower in Swansea" thread?!

Daps! what u been funding with ur council tax these days?

I might be alone in this but I hate the derby's

I know a lot of Man Utd fans who dislike Liverpool more than they do Man City.

Doesn't have to be the same city.

It's not even a derby. Two cities 40 miles away from each other! Besides, we're not up yet.

goodness me. The most fearsome Derby's are usually against clubs from other cities which are close in proximity.

If your view point is correct then the following fixtures would not be classed as a Derby.

Leeds v Manchester United

Leicester v Forest

Swindon v Oxford

Qpr v Luton

Oxford v Luton

Luton v Watford

Norwich v Ipswich

Newcastle v Sunderland

Plymouth V Exeter

Palace v Brighton

Burnley v Blackburn

there are loads

Real v barca probably being the most famous example

All down to interpretation, I suppose. My idea of a derby is two clubs in the same city. Liverpool v Everton, Blues v. Villa, Rangers v Celtic, Lazio v Roma, etc. Cardiff and Swansea are one-club cities. Rivalry, yes, but not really a derby. Accept that I'm probably in a minority though.

Think the "south wales" bit gives it away, nobody is stupid enough to think its a "local" derby mate but a derby it IS same as newport would be, bristol and wrexham i'd agree are just rivalries. Only my opinion of course.

Wrexham is a Welsh derby,Bristol City/Rovers is a severnside derby,like whats been said already you dont have to be in the same city to have derbies

I might be alone in this but I hate the derby's

You're not alone there at all.

All down to interpretation, I suppose. My idea of a derby is two clubs in the same city. Liverpool v Everton, Blues v. Villa, Rangers v Celtic, Lazio v Roma, etc. Cardiff and Swansea are one-club cities. Rivalry, yes, but not really a derby. Accept that I'm probably in a minority though.

Well your going to be in a very small minority, some derbies are in the same cities but that isn't what classifies a derby.

It makes it more of a fierce derby in many ways that it's a derby across City, there's no middle ground like there is with the likes of Everton-Liverpool and Forest-County.

It is one of the most fierce rivalries in the UK, and the first one in the Premier League will be something special. Everything gets so big when you first get in the Premier League and it will make the derby better, and you are already up.

Forest v County?

Last time I looked Derby and Nottingham were separate places.

I think he means Notts Forest v Notts County (1994 was last time)
Gazz

Apologies! Not thought about Notts County for years! Think they played in League Cup last season. In fact the last time i thought about Notts County there was a certain Tank on the TV!

Tank
I have been supporting the Jacks since the mid 80's and I was at Notts County that day and I had never seen any of those tools before that day or since...I rememer one of those idiots running around tell everyone this film crew had hired them a mini bus and stacked it up full of booze for them.....What abunch of knobs FFS!

All down to interpretation, I suppose. My idea of a derby is two clubs in the same city. Liverpool v Everton, Blues v. Villa, Rangers v Celtic, Lazio v Roma, etc. Cardiff and Swansea are one-club cities. Rivalry, yes, but not really a derby. Accept that I'm probably in a minority though.

Think the "south wales" bit gives it away, nobody is stupid enough to think its a "local" derby mate but a derby it IS same as newport would be, bristol and wrexham i'd agree are just rivalries. Only my opinion of course.

Wrexham is a Welsh derby,Bristol City/Rovers is a severnside derby,like whats been said already you dont have to be in the same city to have derbies

i personally dont agree with the wrexham one, but then again my opinion is up to me to make aint it i know there is the "severnside" derby but if we start getting into that we may as well chuck in all them silly teams down in devon/cornwall where does it end..f**k em newport and swansea will do mun.

See, I like Scotsjack on here. Nice footballing threads. Why Twiddle, Tragic Flaps, SwanseaSpas69, 6Paedo and Badamanboob don't take a leaf out his book or just feck off is a mystery to me. Actually, it's no mystery at all. Their all Twunts.

HEY! What about me? I was 64cock remember? I hope you haven't downgraded me?

All down to interpretation, I suppose. My idea of a derby is two clubs in the same city. Liverpool v Everton, Blues v. Villa, Rangers v Celtic, Lazio v Roma, etc. Cardiff and Swansea are one-club cities. Rivalry, yes, but not really a derby. Accept that I'm probably in a minority though.

Well your going to be in a very small minority, some derbies are in the same cities but that isn't what classifies a derby.

It makes it more of a fierce derby in many ways that it's a derby across City, there's no middle ground like there is with the likes of Everton-Liverpool and Forest-County.

It is one of the most fierce rivalries in the UK, and the first one in the Premier League will be something special. Everything gets so big when you first get in the Premier League and it will make the derby better, and you are already up.

Forest v County?

Last time I looked Derby and Nottingham were separate places.

I think he means Notts Forest v Notts County (1994 was last time)
Gazz

Apologies! Not thought about Notts County for years! Think they played in League Cup last season. In fact the last time i thought about Notts County there was a certain Tank on the TV!

Tank
I have been supporting the Jacks since the mid 80's and I was at Notts County that day and I had never seen any of those tools before that day or since...I rememer one of those idiots running around tell everyone this film crew had hired them a mini bus and stacked it up full of booze for them.....What abunch of knobs FFS!

Every club has its idiots. Unfortunately for you lot they were filmed in the act and as a result the urine is extracted.

Every club has its idiots. Unfortunately for you lot they were filmed in the act and as a result the urine is extracted.

Well I've been following us since 1980 and have never set eyes on any of them at a game.

See, I like Scotsjack on here. Nice footballing threads. Why Twiddle, Tragic Flaps, SwanseaSpas69, 6Paedo and Badamanboob don't take a leaf out his book or just feck off is a mystery to me. Actually, it's no mystery at all. Their all Twunts.

Apologise right now or I'll start another "is the Gower in Swansea" thread?!

The Gower is not in Swansea

Every club has its idiots. Unfortunately for you lot they were filmed in the act and as a result the urine is extracted.

Well I've been following us since 1980 and have never set eyes on any of them at a game.

Lucky you. I would be suprised if they showed their faces after getting turned over by 2 Notts County fans.

Every club has its idiots. Unfortunately for you lot they were filmed in the act and as a result the urine is extracted.

Well I've been following us since 1980 and have never set eyes on any of them at a game.

Lucky you. I would be suprised if they showed their faces after getting turned over by 2 Notts County fans.

Aye, that's the most likely reason........

See, I like Scotsjack on here. Nice footballing threads. Why Twiddle, Tragic Flaps, SwanseaSpas69, 6Paedo and Badamanboob don't take a leaf out his book or just feck off is a mystery to me. Actually, it's no mystery at all. Their all Twunts.

HEY! What about me? I was 64cock remember? I hope you haven't downgraded me?

So your saying that you consider that Cock to Jack is a downgrade? You said it, not me. Your not on the forum Twunt list though. Paxman has his own category - Lord Of The Twunts. To be that boring he must have had to put in years of training. Even mentioning him is........making....feel......a.....bit......sleepy........zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz.

See, I like Scotsjack on here. Nice footballing threads. Why Twiddle, Tragic Flaps, SwanseaSpas69, 6Paedo and Badamanboob don't take a leaf out his book or just feck off is a mystery to me. Actually, it's no mystery at all. Their all Twunts.

Apologise right now or I'll start another "is the Gower in Swansea" thread?!

The Gower is not in Swansea

Stop it right now. I couldn't take another Gower thread.

Be the first fixture ill look out for.. Agreed on the restrictions, but it will never change - we've too many muppets amongst both fan bases who take the rivalry too seriously.

Agree that there will always be restrictions, it's the length of time waiting around that I think they could address, probably builds up more issues. Have to say though, it's well policed these days, to the point that I have no issues taking the kids along, not sure I'd have been so confident in the days of Ninian and the Vetch.

Not just the length of time waiting but 50 minutes drive to cardiff, wait around and in the ground for hours, can deal with that, but then 50 minutes back to Cardiff knowing that 5 minutes from your ground and i'm passing my house!!! that is the hard bit. Only did it once, went in with you lot then

See, I like Scotsjack on here. Nice footballing threads. Why Twiddle, Tragic Flaps, SwanseaSpas69, 6Paedo and Badamanboob don't take a leaf out his book or just feck off is a mystery to me. Actually, it's no mystery at all. Their all Twunts.

HEY! What about me? I was 64cock remember? I hope you haven't downgraded me?

So your saying that you consider that Cock to Jack is a downgrade? You said it, not me. Your not on the forum Twunt list though. Paxman has his own category - Lord Of The Twunts. To be that boring he must have had to put in years of training. Even mentioning him is........making....feel......a.....bit......sleepy........zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz.

I'm so glad I'm no longer on the 'Twunt' list it's made my day so I consider it an upgrade!

See, I like Scotsjack on here. Nice footballing threads. Why Twiddle, Tragic Flaps, SwanseaSpas69, 6Paedo and Badamanboob don't take a leaf out his book or just feck off is a mystery to me. Actually, it's no mystery at all. Their all Twunts.

HEY! What about me? I was 64cock remember? I hope you haven't downgraded me?

So your saying that you consider that Cock to Jack is a downgrade? You said it, not me. Your not on the forum Twunt list though. Paxman has his own category - Lord Of The Twunts. To be that boring he must have had to put in years of training. Even mentioning him is........making....feel......a.....bit......sleepy........zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz.

I'm so glad I'm no longer on the 'Twunt' list it's made my day so I consider it an upgrade!

See, I like Scotsjack on here. Nice footballing threads. Why Twiddle, Tragic Flaps, SwanseaSpas69, 6Paedo and Badamanboob don't take a leaf out his book or just feck off is a mystery to me. Actually, it's no mystery at all. Their all Twunts.

HEY! What about me? I was 64cock remember? I hope you haven't downgraded me?

So your saying that you consider that Cock to Jack is a downgrade? You said it, not me. Your not on the forum Twunt list though. Paxman has his own category - Lord Of The Twunts. To be that boring he must have had to put in years of training. Even mentioning him is........making....feel......a.....bit......sleepy........zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz.

I'm so glad I'm no longer on the 'Twunt' list it's made my day so I consider it an upgrade!

We also have another list called "Thieves, Liars & Twats" and it is presented in the form of a 3 circle Venn Diagram. The only posters to appear in the middle intersection are Paxman and Leeds Service Crew. They are beyond being simple Twuntists.

Leeds Service Crew needs medical help and following Leeds' pitiful circus this season isn't helping him. He makes the Jacks on this board seem as clever as Stephen Fry.

All down to interpretation, I suppose. My idea of a derby is two clubs in the same city. Liverpool v Everton, Blues v. Villa, Rangers v Celtic, Lazio v Roma, etc. Cardiff and Swansea are one-club cities. Rivalry, yes, but not really a derby. Accept that I'm probably in a minority though.

Well your going to be in a very small minority, some derbies are in the same cities but that isn't what classifies a derby.

It makes it more of a fierce derby in many ways that it's a derby across City, there's no middle ground like there is with the likes of Everton-Liverpool and Forest-County.

It is one of the most fierce rivalries in the UK, and the first one in the Premier League will be something special. Everything gets so big when you first get in the Premier League and it will make the derby better, and you are already up.

Forest v County?

Last time I looked Derby and Nottingham were separate places.

And they dislike each other almost as much as we dislike the ignorant and backward Jacks

Leeds Service Crew needs medical help and following Leeds' pitiful circus this season isn't helping him. He makes the Jacks on this board seem as clever as Stephen Fry.

The only medical help that Leeds Hovis Crew needs is a lethal injection, although his brain is probably to thick to tell him he's dead.

you will still have your metal gates put up at bessemer road. with the jacks slipped through the allotments.and the police on double time on a sunday

Leeds Service Crew needs medical help and following Leeds' pitiful circus this season isn't helping him. He makes the Jacks on this board seem as clever as Stephen Fry.

i doubt he's even from leeds, probably a kid from ferndale or a sad middle aged man from caerphilly having a laugh.

Interesting discussion.

Rivalries, sometimes very fierce indeed; Cardiff v Swansea or Bristol City, Real Madrid v Barcelona, Ajax v Feyenoord, Southampton v. Pompey, Wrexham v Chester, Newcastle v Sunderland, etc.

Derbies; Rangers v. Celtic, Liverpool v Everton, Juventus v Torino, Tottenham v Arsenal, Blues v Villa, Milan v Inter, Barcelona v Espanyol, Atletico v. Real, Lazio v Roma, Bayern v 1860' etc.

I agree with ScotsJack's cousin! Just spend some time in a two-club city, then you'll see what a derby is! Although, the more successful of the two clubs will always pretend that the derby is not important. It is!

Leeds Service Crew needs medical help and following Leeds' pitiful circus this season isn't helping him. He makes the Jacks on this board seem as clever as Stephen Fry.

i doubt he's even from leeds, probably a kid from ferndale or a sad middle aged man from caerphilly having a laugh.

He's more entertaining than the JBs, and consistently claims to live in Harrogate!