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Re: WEDNESDAY MARCH 27th 2013 UPDATE

Wed Mar 27, 2013 9:04 pm

bluebird1977 wrote:
JonCCFC wrote:
bluebird1977 wrote:Its funny how people are now saying " Red seats and thats it for me" what the hell did they expect pink ones with red shirts and red things in/our the stadium galore, most knew this 10 months ago what was comming with the seats and QUE the red bluebird next before thats done away with :old:

Obviously it was coming but I'd rather wait until it happens before I decide to give up :thumbright:

So a colour change, badge change and more to follow your still watching but if the seat changes colour to suit the shirt your off then? didnt you know this was comming because 99% of people i know knew what was comming ten months ago. :malky:

Like I said, "obviously it was coming", but they didn't have to spend over a £1m to rebrand us... spending all that money just to change the colour of the seats says a lot more than changing the colour of a shirt. Surely you can see why there's still hope?

Re: WEDNESDAY MARCH 27th 2013 UPDATE

Wed Mar 27, 2013 9:05 pm

I said right the way back when this all happened that people should campaign for win able battles.

Marches and petitions do nothing. But a campaign to ensure some middle ground is met. Getting black seats would have been a a good place to start. It is the clubs secondary colour now. It would be a tad more original and would make an easier transition to go back to blue in years to come.

But yeah. A march along side others who are walking that way anyway to swell numbers. Genius.

Re: WEDNESDAY MARCH 27th 2013 UPDATE

Wed Mar 27, 2013 9:07 pm

Surely for the outside cladding it can be changed to red? Please can we just get rid of the lego typed blocks and either just make it all red or put up more posters of our players like Leicester, pleeeeeeeeeeeease

Re: WEDNESDAY MARCH 27th 2013 UPDATE

Wed Mar 27, 2013 9:09 pm

worcester_ccfc wrote:Very disappointed and angry about the seats, but it wasn't unexpected.


The majority accept red, sad but true.

As for spraying seats blue, do you think they'll catch who did it? Don't think they'll need Columbo...

Re: WEDNESDAY MARCH 27th 2013 UPDATE

Wed Mar 27, 2013 9:09 pm

I love when something to do with the rebrand happens. It gets so many people's knickers in a twist.

If you're honestly quitting the club from a seating change which logically makes sense, them grow up.

Oh, and it won't be here forever. The colours will be back to blue when Tan ends up leaving. Or maybe the bitters will finally accept change, understand it's the same bloody club, and continue their lives.

Re: WEDNESDAY MARCH 27th 2013 UPDATE

Wed Mar 27, 2013 9:20 pm

Steve Borley: "old rumour, if another tier added they could be another colour but no plans to change existing"

Re: WEDNESDAY MARCH 27th 2013 UPDATE

Wed Mar 27, 2013 9:24 pm

I heard a rumour about the seating change back in January but people like kingdog didn't want to believe me: viewtopic.php?f=2&t=100939&hilit=+seats
Last edited by Angry Man on Wed Mar 27, 2013 9:25 pm, edited 1 time in total.

Re: WEDNESDAY MARCH 27th 2013 UPDATE

Wed Mar 27, 2013 9:25 pm

Barry Chuckle wrote:Steve Borley: "old rumour, if another tier added they could be another colour but no plans to change existing"

Let's hope Steve is right that there are no plans, as I said they have been given a quote and I do not know of any time-frames or if an order has been placed.

Re: WEDNESDAY MARCH 27th 2013 UPDATE

Wed Mar 27, 2013 9:33 pm

Those who are telling me to grow up because I'm considering giving up over a seat change are very ignorant.

Obviously the rebrand in general would be the reason why I'd stop going, but changing the colour of a shirt doesn't cost a thing and it shows the potential of going back to blue because it's as easy as that. Where as changing the colour of the seats would cost over £1m, which would show that the red is going to be long-term, not short term. The club wouldn't spend all that money if we had the potential to go back to blue as it would be a waste of money, unless they are actually that stupid.

Get it now? It's very simple.

Re: WEDNESDAY MARCH 27th 2013 UPDATE

Wed Mar 27, 2013 9:37 pm

From what steve borley is saying seems as though if we have another tier then those seats will be red which would be no surprise really

Re: WEDNESDAY MARCH 27th 2013 UPDATE

Wed Mar 27, 2013 9:43 pm

He seems pretty sure:

"@SteveCMB: I know exactly how much the seats cost because we fitted every single one and I would have expected to be point of contact"

Re: WEDNESDAY MARCH 27th 2013 UPDATE

Wed Mar 27, 2013 9:48 pm

JonCCFC wrote:Those who are telling me to grow up because I'm considering giving up over a seat change are very ignorant.

Obviously the rebrand in general would be the reason why I'd stop going, but changing the colour of a shirt doesn't cost a thing and it shows the potential of going back to blue because it's as easy as that. Where as changing the colour of the seats would cost over £1m, which would show that the red is going to be long-term, not short term. The club wouldn't spend all that money if we had the potential to go back to blue as it would be a waste of money, unless they are actually that stupid.

Get it now? It's very simple.


It will be red as long as VT owns us. When he goes, which won't be that long away, I believe we will go back to blue. No proof, just what I think. You act surprised as though VT would change us back to blue and suddenly the seat change has made you realise otherwise. Bizarre.

Re: WEDNESDAY MARCH 27th 2013 UPDATE

Wed Mar 27, 2013 9:54 pm

Cardiff City FC = 'Going Going - Gone.......! Sold, to the Fat tw*t from Malaysia :sad7:

Re: WEDNESDAY MARCH 27th 2013 UPDATE

Wed Mar 27, 2013 9:56 pm

Carpe Diem wrote:
JonCCFC wrote:Those who are telling me to grow up because I'm considering giving up over a seat change are very ignorant.

Obviously the rebrand in general would be the reason why I'd stop going, but changing the colour of a shirt doesn't cost a thing and it shows the potential of going back to blue because it's as easy as that. Where as changing the colour of the seats would cost over £1m, which would show that the red is going to be long-term, not short term. The club wouldn't spend all that money if we had the potential to go back to blue as it would be a waste of money, unless they are actually that stupid.

Get it now? It's very simple.


It will be red as long as VT owns us. When he goes, which won't be that long away, I believe we will go back to blue. No proof, just what I think. You act surprised as though VT would change us back to blue and suddenly the seat change has made you realise otherwise. Bizarre.

But how do we know the club would change us back to blue if VT goes? I haven't just realised anything, I said months ago that I would end up giving up if the seats change to red, along with many other people.

Re: WEDNESDAY MARCH 27th 2013 UPDATE

Wed Mar 27, 2013 10:01 pm

I don't think this will happen this pre season but if we establish in the premier league then it's a real possibility. My hope is that we have our moment in the sunshine but struggle or get relegated with the parachute payment. Tan is a football tourist and he will have no stomach if his 'dragons' start to falter and the natives get restless. Remember his words were that he would sell up and leave if people were rude to him. I hope for once he sticks to his word if this happens.

Re: WEDNESDAY MARCH 27th 2013 UPDATE

Wed Mar 27, 2013 10:03 pm

Red kit red seats I can handle but for f**k sake vinny think about the fans for just once and give us a little compromise and allow us some blue on our red home kit as a reminder to our heritage. WE ARE CARDIFF CITY NOT MAN UNITED :ayatollah:

Re: WEDNESDAY MARCH 27th 2013 UPDATE

Wed Mar 27, 2013 10:03 pm

JonCCFC wrote:
Carpe Diem wrote:
JonCCFC wrote:Those who are telling me to grow up because I'm considering giving up over a seat change are very ignorant.

Obviously the rebrand in general would be the reason why I'd stop going, but changing the colour of a shirt doesn't cost a thing and it shows the potential of going back to blue because it's as easy as that. Where as changing the colour of the seats would cost over £1m, which would show that the red is going to be long-term, not short term. The club wouldn't spend all that money if we had the potential to go back to blue as it would be a waste of money, unless they are actually that stupid.

Get it now? It's very simple.


It will be red as long as VT owns us. When he goes, which won't be that long away, I believe we will go back to blue. No proof, just what I think. You act surprised as though VT would change us back to blue and suddenly the seat change has made you realise otherwise. Bizarre.

But how do we know the club would change us back to blue if VT goes? I haven't just realised anything, I said months ago that I would end up giving up if the seats change to red, along with many other people.


We don't know, but what better way for a new owner to get the fans on side from the off? Time will tell. Sorry though I fail to understand how the shirt and badge change can be tolerated, yet a seat changes colour and its the end. Given the choice, I would prefer red seats and the blue kit / badge than the current kit and blue seats.

Re: WEDNESDAY MARCH 27th 2013 UPDATE

Wed Mar 27, 2013 10:04 pm

I might be wrong but doesn't the law state you cannot live or stay in a commercial building ?

Re: WEDNESDAY MARCH 27th 2013 UPDATE

Wed Mar 27, 2013 10:12 pm

Carpe Diem wrote:
JonCCFC wrote:
Carpe Diem wrote:
JonCCFC wrote:Those who are telling me to grow up because I'm considering giving up over a seat change are very ignorant.

Obviously the rebrand in general would be the reason why I'd stop going, but changing the colour of a shirt doesn't cost a thing and it shows the potential of going back to blue because it's as easy as that. Where as changing the colour of the seats would cost over £1m, which would show that the red is going to be long-term, not short term. The club wouldn't spend all that money if we had the potential to go back to blue as it would be a waste of money, unless they are actually that stupid.

Get it now? It's very simple.


It will be red as long as VT owns us. When he goes, which won't be that long away, I believe we will go back to blue. No proof, just what I think. You act surprised as though VT would change us back to blue and suddenly the seat change has made you realise otherwise. Bizarre.

But how do we know the club would change us back to blue if VT goes? I haven't just realised anything, I said months ago that I would end up giving up if the seats change to red, along with many other people.


We don't know, but what better way for a new owner to get the fans on side from the off? Time will tell. Sorry though I fail to understand how the shirt and badge change can be tolerated, yet a seat changes colour and its the end. Given the choice, I would prefer red seats and the blue kit / badge than the current kit and blue seats.

Read what I said before, spending over £1m on red seats shows a clear indication that the potential of going back to blue is very slim along with all the other aspects of the rebrand compared to just simply changing the colour of our shirt for free. It's not the actual seats that is the tipping point, it just shows that going back to blue isn't very likely.

Re: WEDNESDAY MARCH 27th 2013 UPDATE

Wed Mar 27, 2013 10:13 pm

The hope of going back to blue is keeping me going, that is what I'm trying to say.

Re: WEDNESDAY MARCH 27th 2013 UPDATE

Wed Mar 27, 2013 10:14 pm

JonCCFC wrote:
Carpe Diem wrote:
JonCCFC wrote:
Carpe Diem wrote:
JonCCFC wrote:Those who are telling me to grow up because I'm considering giving up over a seat change are very ignorant.

Obviously the rebrand in general would be the reason why I'd stop going, but changing the colour of a shirt doesn't cost a thing and it shows the potential of going back to blue because it's as easy as that. Where as changing the colour of the seats would cost over £1m, which would show that the red is going to be long-term, not short term. The club wouldn't spend all that money if we had the potential to go back to blue as it would be a waste of money, unless they are actually that stupid.

Get it now? It's very simple.


It will be red as long as VT owns us. When he goes, which won't be that long away, I believe we will go back to blue. No proof, just what I think. You act surprised as though VT would change us back to blue and suddenly the seat change has made you realise otherwise. Bizarre.

But how do we know the club would change us back to blue if VT goes? I haven't just realised anything, I said months ago that I would end up giving up if the seats change to red, along with many other people.


We don't know, but what better way for a new owner to get the fans on side from the off? Time will tell. Sorry though I fail to understand how the shirt and badge change can be tolerated, yet a seat changes colour and its the end. Given the choice, I would prefer red seats and the blue kit / badge than the current kit and blue seats.

Read what I said before, spending over £1m on red seats shows a clear indication that the potential of going back to blue is very slim along with all the other aspects of the rebrand compared to just simply changing the colour of our shirt for free. It's not the actual seats that is the tipping point, it just shows that going back to blue isn't very likely.


Why? When VT sells us it will be for a big sum, meaning a wealthy new owner. In a business where players get paid millions, why would £1m to change seats be so prohibitive?

Re: WEDNESDAY MARCH 27th 2013 UPDATE

Wed Mar 27, 2013 10:31 pm

JonCCFC wrote:Those who are telling me to grow up because I'm considering giving up over a seat change are very ignorant.

Obviously the rebrand in general would be the reason why I'd stop going, but changing the colour of a shirt doesn't cost a thing and it shows the potential of going back to blue because it's as easy as that. Where as changing the colour of the seats would cost over £1m, which would show that the red is going to be long-term, not short term. The club wouldn't spend all that money if we had the potential to go back to blue as it would be a waste of money, unless they are actually that stupid.

Get it now? It's very simple.

exactly this colour business is causing people to become slowwwww !!!

Re: WEDNESDAY MARCH 27th 2013 UPDATE

Wed Mar 27, 2013 11:10 pm

carlccfc wrote:There has been plenty of work taking place at CCS recently and more work upcoming, a lot of this work will go unnoticed to the majority of people who visit the stadium though. Firstly Canton community police have taken temporary residence in the stadium whilst their station is undergoing a refurb, the force is paying rent to the club for use of part of the stadium, I suppose it makes a difference that we are taking in prisoners as opposed to normally taking them out :lol:

The stadium will host the 2014 UEFA Super cup and one of the conditions of staging the event is that both dressing rooms are to be exactly the same, for those who don't know our home dressing room was decked out similar to that of the changing rooms at Wembley and from next season the away dressing room will have the same design because of the Super cup being held there.

When Vincent Tan flies in to watch a home game he has in the past stayed at hotels in the City before heading back to Malaysia but that will not be the case any longer, the stadium will soon house an apartment for VT to stay in whilst he is in Cardiff.

The club has sought prices from suppliers in Germany and Australia for replacing the stadium seats and have been quoted a cost of £1.2m to replace them all, I think you can guess the reason for the change and what colour that has been requested, I do not know if the order has been placed or what time frames have been specified, only that a quote has been given.

The club had staff from the Premier League at the stadium today, don't shoot the messenger before anyone gets carried away, it is regarding issues like away allocation, ticketing prices etc, at present if a stadium capacity is less than 30,000 then you are expected to give 10% for the visiting support, if over 30,000 capacity then a minimum of 3000 must be allocated.

Our club is seeking to give the away supporters next season, should we be promoted, 2,400 tickets which will mean we won't have to move the segregation lines and also giving the maximum number of tickets to City fans, we probably won't find out a couple of weeks if our wish has been granted but if we get the go-ahead it is a positive move by the club to look after our fans.

On the footballing side, I read today that the club hope to extend the loan signing of Leon Barnett, but it is my understanding that we are in talks to sign Barnett permanently at the end of the season.

Frenchman Rudy Gestede scored for Benin last night in their defeat against Algeria, Rudy could have played for USA, through of one of his Grandparents but chose Benin after being called up to their squad earlier this month and was eligible through one of his parents.

Ben Turner is back in training and will be fit for Saturday's match with Peterborough but captain Mark Hudson is ruled out for the next 2-3 weeks with an ankle injury.

I got a few spaces left for Watford away due to some drop outs so contact ASAP if you wish to join the trip with us :ayatollah:



Not suprised by this development

But Tan its a bloody disgrace that you choose to get foreign firms to give quotes.

What's wrong with using British companies

:ayatollah: :ayatollah: :ayatollah:

Re: WEDNESDAY MARCH 27th 2013 UPDATE

Wed Mar 27, 2013 11:22 pm

cakey-8t7 wrote:Red kit red seats I can handle but for f**k sake vinny think about the fans for just once and give us a little compromise and allow us some blue on our red home kit as a reminder to our heritage. WE ARE CARDIFF CITY NOT MAN UNITED :ayatollah:


He's made it perfectly clear that he doesn't care about the fans feelings, the potential far eastern fans are more important to him than us. We are nothing more than a minor inconvenience to him, and he must be pissing himself laughing at how easy it has been to get his way.

Re: WEDNESDAY MARCH 27th 2013 UPDATE

Wed Mar 27, 2013 11:54 pm

How anyone can be surprised by the red seats is beyond me. We play in RED, of course he's going to change the seats to red.

Re: WEDNESDAY MARCH 27th 2013 UPDATE

Thu Mar 28, 2013 12:00 am

BlueSince82 wrote:How anyone can be surprised by the red seats is beyond me. We play in RED, of course he's going to change the seats to red.


If it is so obvious that we were always going to change the seat colour, perhaps you could tell us what else he has in store for us?

Re: WEDNESDAY MARCH 27th 2013 UPDATE

Thu Mar 28, 2013 12:02 am

harold pinta wrote:
BlueSince82 wrote:How anyone can be surprised by the red seats is beyond me. We play in RED, of course he's going to change the seats to red.


If it is so obvious that we were always going to change the seat colour, perhaps you could tell us what else he has in store for us?


So you honestly thought that after changing our badge and kit to RED, he wouldn't change our blue seats to red? Have a day off.

Re: WEDNESDAY MARCH 27th 2013 UPDATE

Thu Mar 28, 2013 12:07 am

BlueSince82 wrote:
harold pinta wrote:
BlueSince82 wrote:How anyone can be surprised by the red seats is beyond me. We play in RED, of course he's going to change the seats to red.


If it is so obvious that we were always going to change the seat colour, perhaps you could tell us what else he has in store for us?


So you honestly thought that after changing our badge and kit to RED, he wouldn't change our blue seats to red? Have a day off.


I never said that he wouldn't, I suspected there was a chance of course, but you seems to be certain. Is there anything else that you can be certain of?

Re: WEDNESDAY MARCH 27th 2013 UPDATE

Thu Mar 28, 2013 12:11 am

harold pinta wrote:
BlueSince82 wrote:
harold pinta wrote:
BlueSince82 wrote:How anyone can be surprised by the red seats is beyond me. We play in RED, of course he's going to change the seats to red.


If it is so obvious that we were always going to change the seat colour, perhaps you could tell us what else he has in store for us?


So you honestly thought that after changing our badge and kit to RED, he wouldn't change our blue seats to red? Have a day off.


I never said that he wouldn't, I suspected there was a chance of course, but you seems to be certain. Is there anything else that you can be certain of?


Of this, yes, I was fairly sure he would do it. The only other thing I would suspect he will do in the near future is change the blue panels on the outside of the stadium to red.

Re: WEDNESDAY MARCH 27th 2013 UPDATE

Thu Mar 28, 2013 12:13 am

If there were proposals of a name change, some fans would say "WHAT'S WITH THE FUSS, IT WAS BOUND TO HAPPEN" :roll: