Is promotion deemed as success?

Of course Roathy your relative argument is a rebrand of your original argument.Though you may find comfort with the support of that silly bugger chuckles your arguments are actually as baseless as when you started out as Canton Magic.

It's true. Possible Promotion is tarnished by the loss of our club identity and traditions.

What should be the best season in our lifetimes so far, is being dogged by in-fighting from fans and an unrecognisable Cardiff a city on the pitch.

If you wish to debate maturely, instead of pathetic name calling, go right ahead.

this season is the best season in my lifetime, promotion is what I want,

our identity is still there as far as im aware it still says Cardiff City at the stadium thats our identity
our traditions? Men of Harlech is still played at the beginning of games you can still call us the bluebirds if you wish, we can still do the ayatollah, we used to have a great tradition of hooliganism but that seems to have gone and not many people complaining about that.

unrecognisable Cardiff City on the pitch yeah damn right they are unrecognisable we are winning and top of the league.

problem is instead of letting people enjoy it people like you bark on over and over again about this re-brand putting a downer on everything.

you in particular are the worst, I dont mind you campaigning to get the club back to blue, go for it I wish you all the luck in the world but aim it at the right people the board and the owner, not the fans. It shouldnt matter whether you are pro-red, reluctant red pro blue or f**k it ill wear a multi-coloured top because I dont know whether im coming and to be honest the amount of drugs ive got in my system to get me through this terrible time but that goal scored by the referee was fantastic.

I fail to see what you think other fans can do and it becomes a laughing stock aim it at the right people instead of denouncing the fans around you.

Promotion is promotion hopefully we only get to witness it once with a long tenure in the premier league and who are you or paxman/roath tragic to ruin it for fans.

:laughing6:

what I love about your response is youve just criticised someone for not debating properly and advised them to debate properly and youve just done the same thing congratulations.

this season is the best season in my lifetime, promotion is what I want,

Good for you, sadly I much preferred last season.

our identity is still there as far as im aware it still says Cardiff City at the stadium thats our identity
our traditions? Men of Harlech is still played at the beginning of games you can still call us the bluebirds if you wish, we can still do the ayatollah, we used to have a great tradition of hooliganism but that seems to have gone and not many people complaining about that.

not ALL of our identity has gone, but many club traditions have been wiped - for no REAL reason.

unrecognisable Cardiff City on the pitch yeah damn right they are unrecognisable we are winning and top of the league.

yes. Pretty unrecognisable.. I've often mistaken an away team wearing blue as Cardiff many times this season.

problem is instead of letting people enjoy it people like you bark on over and over again about this re-brand putting a downer on everything.

so, you can only air an opinion on here if it agrees with yours? Oh dear..

you in particular are the worst, I dont mind you campaigning to get the club back to blue, go for it I wish you all the luck in the world but aim it at the right people the board and the owner, not the fans. It shouldnt matter whether you are pro-red, reluctant red pro blue or f**k it ill wear a multi-coloured top because I dont know whether im coming and to be honest the amount of drugs ive got in my system to get me through this terrible time but that goal scored by the referee was fantastic.

I fail to see what you think other fans can do and it becomes a laughing stock aim it at the right people instead of denouncing the fans around you.

all I did was say I agreed with the opening post..

Promotion is promotion hopefully we only get to witness it once with a long tenure in the premier league and who are you or paxman/roath tragic to ruin it for fans.

totally.. Who am I to give an opinion regarding the football club I support. Silly me.

:laughing6:

what I love about your response is youve just criticised someone for not debating properly and advised them to debate properly and youve just done the same thing congratulations.

Just posted a response - takes some time.

Although didnt you say I shouldn't bring other people down with my thoughts on the catastrophic disregard for CCFC's traditions? Make your mind up.

:laughing6:

what I love about your response is youve just criticised someone for not debating properly and advised them to debate properly and youve just done the same thing congratulations.

Well I won't laugh but I will nod my head in disbelief what you have posted.

You say we have kept our identity because we are named Cardiff City. Well Cardiff City are known as the Bluebirds and are recognised as playing in blue. We are fighting desperately to keep the Bluebird, when did Ali last say the nickname, and as far as blue when was the last time we played in it? To me and many others our identity is all but gone.

Regarding your comment about being recognisable on the pitch. Since when have we been recognisable for being top of the league? Take away this season and we are known as bottlers. I'm glad that recognisable bottle factor is about to be lifted but I would swap that for what others outside Cardiff know us for and that is playing in blue.

Cardiff City top of the league and hopefully about to get promotion to the premier league, it's fantastic. Love it hard to describe the joy when we win. Love to be in blue but it ain't. Still going to enjoy the ride as it is still Cardiff City FC. And answer to the question is a resounding YES

Mmmm as a fan promotion is a success! Ask the club its a sucess! Is the cost to high? That depends on you viewpoint, success is something you aim for and acheive! Eg of your lottery is crap? If a man climbs everest loses all his fingers is it a success? Climber says yes! my view is cost is to high? Its About opinions, this is
Another of RM debates with no ending!

I can't think why some people take pleasure in postulating a hypothesis like this on a football message board, but there you go.

:laughing6:

what I love about your response is youve just criticised someone for not debating properly and advised them to debate properly and youve just done the same thing congratulations.

Well I won't laugh but I will nod my head in disbelief what you have posted.

You say we have kept our identity because we are named Cardiff City. Well Cardiff City are known as the Bluebirds and are recognised as playing in blue. We are fighting desperately to keep the Bluebird, when did Ali last say the nickname, and as far as blue when was the last time we played in it? To me and many others our identity is all but gone.

Regarding your comment about being recognisable on the pitch. Since when have we been recognisable for being top of the league? Take away this season and we are known as bottlers. I'm glad that recognisable bottle factor is about to be lifted but I would swap that for what others outside Cardiff know us for and that is playing in blue.

when did Ali last say our nickname? 12/03/2013 against against Leicester City I heard it maybe you werent there.

:laughing6:

what I love about your response is youve just criticised someone for not debating properly and advised them to debate properly and youve just done the same thing congratulations.

Well I won't laugh but I will nod my head in disbelief what you have posted.

You say we have kept our identity because we are named Cardiff City. Well Cardiff City are known as the Bluebirds and are recognised as playing in blue. We are fighting desperately to keep the Bluebird, when did Ali last say the nickname, and as far as blue when was the last time we played in it? To me and many others our identity is all but gone.

Regarding your comment about being recognisable on the pitch. Since when have we been recognisable for being top of the league? Take away this season and we are known as bottlers. I'm glad that recognisable bottle factor is about to be lifted but I would swap that for what others outside Cardiff know us for and that is playing in blue.

when did Ali last say our nickname? 12/03/2013 against against Leicester City I heard it maybe you werent there.

No I was not there.....neither was Tan.

Paxman is not a Cardiff city fan, always posts negative, he can't stand the thought of his capital city getting to the premier division.

Paxman is not a Cardiff city fan, always posts negative, he can't stand the thought of his capital city getting to the premier division.

This

this season is the best season in my lifetime, promotion is what I want,

Good for you, sadly I much preferred last season.

our identity is still there as far as im aware it still says Cardiff City at the stadium thats our identity
our traditions? Men of Harlech is still played at the beginning of games you can still call us the bluebirds if you wish, we can still do the ayatollah, we used to have a great tradition of hooliganism but that seems to have gone and not many people complaining about that.

not ALL of our identity has gone, but many club traditions have been wiped - for no REAL reason.

unrecognisable Cardiff City on the pitch yeah damn right they are unrecognisable we are winning and top of the league.

yes. Pretty unrecognisable.. I've often mistaken an away team wearing blue as Cardiff many times this season.

problem is instead of letting people enjoy it people like you bark on over and over again about this re-brand putting a downer on everything.

so, you can only air an opinion on here if it agrees with yours? Oh dear..

you in particular are the worst, I dont mind you campaigning to get the club back to blue, go for it I wish you all the luck in the world but aim it at the right people the board and the owner, not the fans. It shouldnt matter whether you are pro-red, reluctant red pro blue or f**k it ill wear a multi-coloured top because I dont know whether im coming and to be honest the amount of drugs ive got in my system to get me through this terrible time but that goal scored by the referee was fantastic.

I fail to see what you think other fans can do and it becomes a laughing stock aim it at the right people instead of denouncing the fans around you.

all I did was say I agreed with the opening post..

Promotion is promotion hopefully we only get to witness it once with a long tenure in the premier league and who are you or paxman/roath tragic to ruin it for fans.

totally.. Who am I to give an opinion regarding the football club I support. Silly me.

but you dont give opinions you dictate to people exactly how they should feel and like most people you forget that when it comes to different threads.

its going to be you who will put a huge downer on our hopeful promotion party and you will make out that its tainted in reality it wont make any difference. You celebrate or protest in your own way you leave me to celebrate in my own way.

this season is the best season in my lifetime, promotion is what I want,

Good for you, sadly I much preferred last season.

our identity is still there as far as im aware it still says Cardiff City at the stadium thats our identity
our traditions? Men of Harlech is still played at the beginning of games you can still call us the bluebirds if you wish, we can still do the ayatollah, we used to have a great tradition of hooliganism but that seems to have gone and not many people complaining about that.

not ALL of our identity has gone, but many club traditions have been wiped - for no REAL reason.

unrecognisable Cardiff City on the pitch yeah damn right they are unrecognisable we are winning and top of the league.

yes. Pretty unrecognisable.. I've often mistaken an away team wearing blue as Cardiff many times this season.

problem is instead of letting people enjoy it people like you bark on over and over again about this re-brand putting a downer on everything.

so, you can only air an opinion on here if it agrees with yours? Oh dear..

you in particular are the worst, I dont mind you campaigning to get the club back to blue, go for it I wish you all the luck in the world but aim it at the right people the board and the owner, not the fans. It shouldnt matter whether you are pro-red, reluctant red pro blue or f**k it ill wear a multi-coloured top because I dont know whether im coming and to be honest the amount of drugs ive got in my system to get me through this terrible time but that goal scored by the referee was fantastic.

I fail to see what you think other fans can do and it becomes a laughing stock aim it at the right people instead of denouncing the fans around you.

all I did was say I agreed with the opening post..

Promotion is promotion hopefully we only get to witness it once with a long tenure in the premier league and who are you or paxman/roath tragic to ruin it for fans.

totally.. Who am I to give an opinion regarding the football club I support. Silly me.

but you dont give opinions you dictate to people exactly how they should feel and like most people you forget that when it comes to different threads.

its going to be you who will put a huge downer on our hopeful promotion party and you will make out that its tainted in reality it wont make any difference. You celebrate or protest in your own way you leave me to celebrate in my own way.

It is tainted. If you really get a huge downer from reading differing opinions on an Internet forum, maybe you shouldn't be posting here?

I will celebrate/protest in my own way.. That's exactly what I'm doing now.

:laughing6:

what I love about your response is youve just criticised someone for not debating properly and advised them to debate properly and youve just done the same thing congratulations.

Well I won't laugh but I will nod my head in disbelief what you have posted.

You say we have kept our identity because we are named Cardiff City. Well Cardiff City are known as the Bluebirds and are recognised as playing in blue. We are fighting desperately to keep the Bluebird, when did Ali last say the nickname, and as far as blue when was the last time we played in it? To me and many others our identity is all but gone.

Regarding your comment about being recognisable on the pitch. Since when have we been recognisable for being top of the league? Take away this season and we are known as bottlers. I'm glad that recognisable bottle factor is about to be lifted but I would swap that for what others outside Cardiff know us for and that is playing in blue.

when did Ali last say our nickname? 12/03/2013 against against Leicester City I heard it maybe you werent there.

No I was not there.....neither was Tan.

is it a requirement for the owner to be at every game? especially when he has other businesses?
why werent you there was it because you have work commitments and live in Derby?
our owner has work commitments and lives in Malaysia.

this season is the best season in my lifetime, promotion is what I want,

Good for you, sadly I much preferred last season.

our identity is still there as far as im aware it still says Cardiff City at the stadium thats our identity
our traditions? Men of Harlech is still played at the beginning of games you can still call us the bluebirds if you wish, we can still do the ayatollah, we used to have a great tradition of hooliganism but that seems to have gone and not many people complaining about that.

not ALL of our identity has gone, but many club traditions have been wiped - for no REAL reason.

unrecognisable Cardiff City on the pitch yeah damn right they are unrecognisable we are winning and top of the league.

yes. Pretty unrecognisable.. I've often mistaken an away team wearing blue as Cardiff many times this season.

problem is instead of letting people enjoy it people like you bark on over and over again about this re-brand putting a downer on everything.

so, you can only air an opinion on here if it agrees with yours? Oh dear..

you in particular are the worst, I dont mind you campaigning to get the club back to blue, go for it I wish you all the luck in the world but aim it at the right people the board and the owner, not the fans. It shouldnt matter whether you are pro-red, reluctant red pro blue or f**k it ill wear a multi-coloured top because I dont know whether im coming and to be honest the amount of drugs ive got in my system to get me through this terrible time but that goal scored by the referee was fantastic.

I fail to see what you think other fans can do and it becomes a laughing stock aim it at the right people instead of denouncing the fans around you.

all I did was say I agreed with the opening post..

Promotion is promotion hopefully we only get to witness it once with a long tenure in the premier league and who are you or paxman/roath tragic to ruin it for fans.

totally.. Who am I to give an opinion regarding the football club I support. Silly me.

but you dont give opinions you dictate to people exactly how they should feel and like most people you forget that when it comes to different threads.

its going to be you who will put a huge downer on our hopeful promotion party and you will make out that its tainted in reality it wont make any difference. You celebrate or protest in your own way you leave me to celebrate in my own way.

It is tainted. If you really get a huge downer from reading differing opinions on an Internet forum, maybe you shouldn't be posting here?

I will celebrate/protest in my own way.. That's exactly what I'm doing now.

im not on a downer at all loving every moment desperately want to see our club in the premiership because I believe we have deserved that honour for a very long time

do what you want but respect others one thing you lack in every single post is no respect.

:laughing6:

what I love about your response is youve just criticised someone for not debating properly and advised them to debate properly and youve just done the same thing congratulations.

Well I won't laugh but I will nod my head in disbelief what you have posted.

You say we have kept our identity because we are named Cardiff City. Well Cardiff City are known as the Bluebirds and are recognised as playing in blue. We are fighting desperately to keep the Bluebird, when did Ali last say the nickname, and as far as blue when was the last time we played in it? To me and many others our identity is all but gone.

Regarding your comment about being recognisable on the pitch. Since when have we been recognisable for being top of the league? Take away this season and we are known as bottlers. I'm glad that recognisable bottle factor is about to be lifted but I would swap that for what others outside Cardiff know us for and that is playing in blue.

when did Ali last say our nickname? 12/03/2013 against against Leicester City I heard it maybe you werent there.

No I was not there.....neither was Tan.

is it a requirement for the owner to be at every game? especially when he has other businesses?
why werent you there was it because you have work commitments and live in Derby?
our owner has work commitments and lives in Malaysia.

Missing the point you are.

Ali never mentions the Bluebird when Tan is there....what does that tell you?

Lol, thats just a ridiculous MB rumour. Many times Tan has been here and Ali has said it, so much so people began starting threads when he did.

this season is the best season in my lifetime, promotion is what I want,

Good for you, sadly I much preferred last season.

our identity is still there as far as im aware it still says Cardiff City at the stadium thats our identity
our traditions? Men of Harlech is still played at the beginning of games you can still call us the bluebirds if you wish, we can still do the ayatollah, we used to have a great tradition of hooliganism but that seems to have gone and not many people complaining about that.

not ALL of our identity has gone, but many club traditions have been wiped - for no REAL reason.

unrecognisable Cardiff City on the pitch yeah damn right they are unrecognisable we are winning and top of the league.

yes. Pretty unrecognisable.. I've often mistaken an away team wearing blue as Cardiff many times this season.

problem is instead of letting people enjoy it people like you bark on over and over again about this re-brand putting a downer on everything.

so, you can only air an opinion on here if it agrees with yours? Oh dear..

you in particular are the worst, I dont mind you campaigning to get the club back to blue, go for it I wish you all the luck in the world but aim it at the right people the board and the owner, not the fans. It shouldnt matter whether you are pro-red, reluctant red pro blue or f**k it ill wear a multi-coloured top because I dont know whether im coming and to be honest the amount of drugs ive got in my system to get me through this terrible time but that goal scored by the referee was fantastic.

I fail to see what you think other fans can do and it becomes a laughing stock aim it at the right people instead of denouncing the fans around you.

all I did was say I agreed with the opening post..

Promotion is promotion hopefully we only get to witness it once with a long tenure in the premier league and who are you or paxman/roath tragic to ruin it for fans.

totally.. Who am I to give an opinion regarding the football club I support. Silly me.

but you dont give opinions you dictate to people exactly how they should feel and like most people you forget that when it comes to different threads.

its going to be you who will put a huge downer on our hopeful promotion party and you will make out that its tainted in reality it wont make any difference. You celebrate or protest in your own way you leave me to celebrate in my own way.

It is tainted. If you really get a huge downer from reading differing opinions on an Internet forum, maybe you shouldn't be posting here?

I will celebrate/protest in my own way.. That's exactly what I'm doing now.

im not on a downer at all loving every moment desperately want to see our club in the premiership because I believe we have deserved that honour for a very long time

do what you want but respect others one thing you lack in every single post is no respect.

I want to see out club there too. But not at the expect of the club's identities and traditions.

Airing my views is in no way disrespectful.

when did Ali last say our nickname? 12/03/2013 against against Leicester City I heard it maybe you werent there.[/quote]

No I was not there.....neither was Tan.[/quote]

is it a requirement for the owner to be at every game? especially when he has other businesses?
why werent you there was it because you have work commitments and live in Derby?
our owner has work commitments and lives in Malaysia.[/quote]

Missing the point you are.

Ali never mentions the Bluebird when Tan is there....what does that tell you?[/quote]

I used to think this too but Vinnie was at a recent game when Ali mentioend the Bluebirds - can' t remember which one, but it struck me at the time.

He tends to mention it in the warm up rather than as the teams come out.

Anyway, I still think we are the Bluebirds, but there again I am an old fart and don't even like the yellow rubbish we added 40 years ago...

I'm merely expressing my opinion that I agree that this title will be tainted. Why you resort to petty name calling, ill never know.

I'm merely expressing my opinion that I agree that this title will be tainted. Why you resort to petty name calling, ill never know.

Its because hes more blatant and you use that very antogonising passive aggressive crap. You talk down to people as if they are shit. Its no coincidence that many feel the same toward you.

I'm merely expressing my opinion that I agree that this title will be tainted. Why you resort to petty name calling, ill never know.

Its because hes more blatant and you use that very antogonising passive aggressive crap. You talk down to people as if they are shit. Its no coincidence that many feel the same toward you.

Not at all.. Merely stating an opinion. That is allowed, isn't it?

Nobody said it isnt allowed, its just your a very patronising person on here. Im sure in person your a nice enough guy.

Well Paxman has re ignited the rebrand debate . Now there's a surprise

Paxman. Your O.P. is incredibly stupid. And as you try try to to dissect our possible promotion, trying to act like psuedo intellectual it get progressively worse.
In football terms a promotion to the top flight is success, end of! However long it lasts.

Of course Roathy your relative argument is a rebrand of your original argument.Though you may find comfort with the support of that silly bugger chuckles your arguments are actually as baseless as when you started out as Canton Magic.

This guy is clearly a Jack wind-up merchant.

Can't people see it

Fair play mind, he always make me laugh - all his other accounts are on my ignore list - but he's just funny with this one

Of course Roathy your relative argument is a rebrand of your original argument.Though you may find comfort with the support of that silly bugger chuckles your arguments are actually as baseless as when you started out as Canton Magic.

This guy is clearly a Jack wind-up merchant.

Can't people see it

Fair play mind, he always make me laugh - all his other accounts are on my ignore list - but he's just funny with this one

Agreed....I am not sure why this thread went further than the op.

You guys gave Paxman exactly what his depraved mind wanted 1.) Attention 2.) More Cardiff fans bickering.

Barry you have to know thread's like this are exactly why people thought you were RM

Lots of name calling, jack accusations and assumptions regarding alter egos - that's the classic sign that the thread is spot on and others don't wish to think about it or even entertain it. They know it's true.

It's simple, if you are in a competition yet it has cost you far more than what the actual prize it then winning it isn't a success. It will only become a success when the club achieved what most would consider a fair trade off for everything we have had to give away. To many no achievements will be worth it, to others then champions league... But surely no real fan in their right mind would have done this to their club for one promotion from the championship?

It's not a success, it's a vessel to enable the stupid to sweep whats really going in under the premier league rug for a season. Success? Not on your nelly.