Has our club become an embarrassment?

How dare the fans want the club's identity to remain intact...

Last time i looked it still said CARDIFF CITY FC

More to an identity of a club than the name.

Colour meant something to you when you chose your name, why not now?

How can you tell me it doesn't mean anything now, i don't like the red but i will put up with it for the future of the club, if the name ever changes at that point i will stop going. So the name Cardiff City Fc is not an identity then

Name is part of it. Not much to identify the club with otherwise.

The name is a BIG part of it

How dare the fans want the club's identity to remain intact...

Last time i looked it still said CARDIFF CITY FC

More to an identity of a club than the name.

Colour meant something to you when you chose your name, why not now?

How can you tell me it doesn't mean anything now, i don't like the red but i will put up with it for the future of the club, if the name ever changes at that point i will stop going. So the name Cardiff City Fc is not an identity then

Name is part of it. Not much to identify the club with otherwise.

The name is a BIG part of it

So is shirt colour.

So where did I say it didn't

Obviouse to you ..but you always have to be right dont you as I said our nickname is bluebirds so anyone with blue or even bloo in there forum name could quite as easily be refering to that

How dare the fans want the club's identity to remain intact...

How dare MOST of the fans want the club to move with the times and not hark back to 'the good old days' of hooliganism, 'the real fans', relegation, small crowds, Sam Hammam and of course by far the best and most important thing ever about our club.....a bird on our badge

Where did I say any of that? I'd stop assuming things, if I were you.

I'd stop assuming I was aiming any/all of that at you in particular if I were you

How dare the fans want the club's identity to remain intact...

How dare MOST of the fans want the club to move with the times and not hark back to 'the good old days' of hooliganism, 'the real fans', relegation, small crowds, Sam Hammam and of course by far the best and most important thing ever about our club.....a bird on our badge

Where did I say any of that? I'd stop assuming things, if I were you.

I'd stop assuming I was aiming any/all of that at you in particular if I were you

The fact that you quoted me shows that you aimed your response at me.

The fans dont want it. where is the mass protest/march? If you think this is wrong do something about. Or just whinge and moan on a message board...

Agreed. Absolutely nothing has been done to stop this megalomaniac stripping your beloved club of it's identity and riding rough shod over it's traditions. Unless you include whining on this message board as doing something. If this had happened at any other club in the land, fake Tan would have been run out of town faster than his feet could carry him. I feel genuinely sorry for the true Cardiff fans who oppose this raping of your club, but you were obviously massively outnumbered by the sycophantic whore's who put premiership football above all else.

That said, Tan had already told you how to get rid of him. Grow a set of balls and start being rude to him!

The fans dont want it. where is the mass protest/march? If you think this is wrong do something about. Or just whinge and moan on a message board...

Agreed. Absolutely nothing has been done to stop this megalomaniac stripping your beloved club of it's identity and riding rough shod over it's traditions. Unless you include whining on this message board as doing something. If this had happened at any other club in the land, fake Tan would have been run out of town faster than his feet could carry him. I feel genuinely sorry for the true Cardiff fans who oppose this raping of your club, but you were obviously massively outnumbered by the sycophantic whore's who put premiership football above all else.

That said, Tan had already told you how to get rid of him. Grow a set of balls and start being rude to him!

Then you would be on here laughing at our struggle to stay in the football league.. Go away vermin

simple answer......YES

The fans dont want it. where is the mass protest/march? If you think this is wrong do something about. Or just whinge and moan on a message board...

Agreed. Absolutely nothing has been done to stop this megalomaniac stripping your beloved club of it's identity and riding rough shod over it's traditions. Unless you include whining on this message board as doing something. If this had happened at any other club in the land, fake Tan would have been run out of town faster than his feet could carry him. I feel genuinely sorry for the true Cardiff fans who oppose this raping of your club, but you were obviously massively outnumbered by the sycophantic whore's who put premiership football above all else.

That said, Tan had already told you how to get rid of him. Grow a set of balls and start being rude to him!

Then you would be on here laughing at our struggle to stay in the football league.. Go away vermin

Why would that happen? He said he'd leave us in good hands... And you trust his word.

The fans dont want it. where is the mass protest/march? If you think this is wrong do something about. Or just whinge and moan on a message board...

Agreed. Absolutely nothing has been done to stop this megalomaniac stripping your beloved club of it's identity and riding rough shod over it's traditions. Unless you include whining on this message board as doing something. If this had happened at any other club in the land, fake Tan would have been run out of town faster than his feet could carry him. I feel genuinely sorry for the true Cardiff fans who oppose this raping of your club, but you were obviously massively outnumbered by the sycophantic whore's who put premiership football above all else.

That said, Tan had already told you how to get rid of him. Grow a set of balls and start being rude to him!

Then you would be on here laughing at our struggle to stay in the football league.. Go away vermin

I'm not laughing though am I? Like I said, I feel genuine sympathy for the real Cardiff city football fans who are sticking by their principles, but are being drowned out by the "premier league at all costs" brigade. The bending over and whoring out of your once proud club is no laughing matter. It's a complete disgrace that wouldn't happen at any other club.

the question is where is it going to stop fellas ? do you all honestly think he's not going further with his mini-malaysia fc dream , you are a laughing stock at the moment not doing one single thing to stop this nutcase doing whatever he wants to your club , he obviously has some big vision for his club and the sooner you lot grow a pair of balls the better

The fans dont want it. where is the mass protest/march? If you think this is wrong do something about. Or just whinge and moan on a message board...

Agreed. Absolutely nothing has been done to stop this megalomaniac stripping your beloved club of it's identity and riding rough shod over it's traditions. Unless you include whining on this message board as doing something. If this had happened at any other club in the land, fake Tan would have been run out of town faster than his feet could carry him. I feel genuinely sorry for the true Cardiff fans who oppose this raping of your club, but you were obviously massively outnumbered by the sycophantic whore's who put premiership football above all else.

That said, Tan had already told you how to get rid of him. Grow a set of balls and start being rude to him!

Then you would be on here laughing at our struggle to stay in the football league.. Go away vermin

I'm not laughing though am I? Like I said, I feel genuine sympathy for the real Cardiff city football fans who are sticking by their principles, but are being drowned out by the "premier league at all costs" brigade. The bending over and whoring out of your once proud club is no laughing matter. It's a complete disgrace that wouldn't happen at any other club.

I enjoy going to games that doesnt mean im premier league at all costs brigade ive been going for 30 years and will be there for years to come regardless of what league we are in..

The fans dont want it. where is the mass protest/march? If you think this is wrong do something about. Or just whinge and moan on a message board...

Agreed. Absolutely nothing has been done to stop this megalomaniac stripping your beloved club of it's identity and riding rough shod over it's traditions. Unless you include whining on this message board as doing something. If this had happened at any other club in the land, fake Tan would have been run out of town faster than his feet could carry him. I feel genuinely sorry for the true Cardiff fans who oppose this raping of your club, but you were obviously massively outnumbered by the sycophantic whore's who put premiership football above all else.

That said, Tan had already told you how to get rid of him. Grow a set of balls and start being rude to him!

Then you would be on here laughing at our struggle to stay in the football league.. Go away vermin

A number of us have said they want the club debt free more than premier football.

Sometimes I wish we were mid table to test these people.

I'm not laughing though am I? Like I said, I feel genuine sympathy for the real Cardiff city football fans who are sticking by their principles, but are being drowned out by the "premier league at all costs" brigade. The bending over and whoring out of your once proud club is no laughing matter. It's a complete disgrace that wouldn't happen at any other club.

I enjoy going to games that doesnt mean im premier league at all costs brigade ive been going for 30 years and will be there for years to come regardless of what league we are in..

No, but this one has http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-south-east-wales-21779050

The fans dont want it. where is the mass protest/march? If you think this is wrong do something about. Or just whinge and moan on a message board...

Agreed. Absolutely nothing has been done to stop this megalomaniac stripping your beloved club of it's identity and riding rough shod over it's traditions. Unless you include whining on this message board as doing something. If this had happened at any other club in the land, fake Tan would have been run out of town faster than his feet could carry him. I feel genuinely sorry for the true Cardiff fans who oppose this raping of your club, but you were obviously massively outnumbered by the sycophantic whore's who put premiership football above all else.

That said, Tan had already told you how to get rid of him. Grow a set of balls and start being rude to him!

Then you would be on here laughing at our struggle to stay in the football league.. Go away vermin

I'm not laughing though am I? Like I said, I feel genuine sympathy for the real Cardiff city football fans who are sticking by their principles, but are being drowned out by the "premier league at all costs" brigade. The bending over and whoring out of your once proud club is no laughing matter. It's a complete disgrace that wouldn't happen at any other club.

I enjoy going to games that doesnt mean im premier league at all costs brigade ive been going for 30 years and will be there for years to come regardless of what league we are in..

So if you're happy to watch tour team play "in any league", why the complete apathy to the stripping of your traditional colour/badge? If you're happy in the championship why aren't you fighting the re-brand? It doesn't make sense.

Fight the rebrand? yes lets all have a whip round and come up with a £100M and buy Tan out. Stick to planet swamp you little pikey

Fight the rebrand? yes lets all have a whip round and come up with a £100M and buy Tan out. Stick to planet swamp you little pikey

It's £100 million now yes, but then the riddler first whored you out it was a fraction of that amount. In true Cardiff city fashion you bent over and thought of the money, all waving your little Malaysian flags to greet the man from Kuala Lumpur and his entourage. No good crying about it now on here. Do something about it, or stop whining!

I'm not laughing though am I? Like I said, I feel genuine sympathy for the real Cardiff city football fans who are sticking by their principles, but are being drowned out by the "premier league at all costs" brigade. The bending over and whoring out of your once proud club is no laughing matter. It's a complete disgrace that wouldn't happen at any other club.

feck me...first time I agree with you Daps... and tbh I would feel and say the same if this was happening to Swansea...

things like that are an absolute no-go, regardless what club.

p.s. still cant stand you lot

How dare the fans want the club's identity to remain intact...

How dare MOST of the fans want the club to move with the times and not hark back to 'the good old days' of hooliganism, 'the real fans', relegation, small crowds, Sam Hammam and of course by far the best and most important thing ever about our club.....a bird on our badge

Where did I say any of that? I'd stop assuming things, if I were you.

I'd stop assuming I was aiming any/all of that at you in particular if I were you

The fact that you quoted me shows that you aimed your response at me.

I was voicing an alternative opinion to yours. That doesn't mean my comments were necessarily directed at you.....which they weren't. Apology accepted.

Personally, I don't think the club is an embarrassment. It's not the same club I grew up supporting but it's not embarrassing... yet. The whole red scarf thing was embarrassing though. Vincent Tan must have been pissing himself laughing when he saw all those scarves. He might as well have said "dance my puppets, dance!"

How dare the fans want the club's identity to remain intact...

How dare MOST of the fans want the club to move with the times and not hark back to 'the good old days' of hooliganism, 'the real fans', relegation, small crowds, Sam Hammam and of course by far the best and most important thing ever about our club.....a bird on our badge

Where did I say any of that? I'd stop assuming things, if I were you.

I'd stop assuming I was aiming any/all of that at you in particular if I were you

The fact that you quoted me shows that you aimed your response at me.

I was voicing an alternative opinion to yours. That doesn't mean my comments were necessarily directed at you.....which they weren't. Apology accepted.

No apology necessary.

Fight the rebrand? yes lets all have a whip round and come up with a £100M and buy Tan out. Stick to planet swamp you little pikey

It's £100 million now yes, but then the riddler first whored you out it was a fraction of that amount. In true Cardiff city fashion you bent over and thought of the money, all waving your little Malaysian flags to greet the man from Kuala Lumpur and his entourage. No good crying about it now on here. Do something about it, or stop whining!

I suppose we could do the ultimate insult and go into admin. You know the easy way out of it.

Fight the rebrand? yes lets all have a whip round and come up with a £100M and buy Tan out. Stick to planet swamp you little pikey

It's £100 million now yes, but then the riddler first whored you out it was a fraction of that amount. In true Cardiff city fashion you bent over and thought of the money, all waving your little Malaysian flags to greet the man from Kuala Lumpur and his entourage. No good crying about it now on here. Do something about it, or stop whining!

fairplay to u gypo you are partly right but it's to late this fella has got away with the red shit but it's too late to fight against any further rebranding coz we have already proved we can bend over and take it

VERY MUCH SO, I HAVE FOLLOWED THE CITY FOR 50 YEARS AND NEVER THOUGHT ID SEE FANS AT CARDIFF DIVIDED---I TRAVEL FROM BIRMINGHAM HOME AND AWAY EVERY WEEK---WHEN I GET BACK TO BRUM AND LIVING IN A VILLA AREA I GO TO THE BAR TO A CHORUS OF REDBIRDS, REDBIRDS AND ALL THE LADS LAUGHING AT CARDIFF CITY, BIRMINGHAM AND WBA FANS LAUGH WHEN I MENTION CARDIFF OR THEY SEE MY BLUEBIRD PIN BADGE I ALWAYS WEAR . EVEN A WALSALL FAN LAST WEEK SAW MY BADGE AND SAID ---FUCK ME MATE I THOUGHT YOU PLAYED IN RED AND WERE CALLED THE REDBIRDS---WANKER--- BUT HE IS RIGHT---WE SADLY ARE A JOKE WITH FOOTBALL FANS IN THE MIDLANDS

VERY MUCH SO, I HAVE FOLLOWED THE CITY FOR 50 YEARS AND NEVER THOUGHT ID SEE FANS AT CARDIFF DIVIDED---I TRAVEL FROM BIRMINGHAM HOME AND AWAY EVERY WEEK---WHEN I GET BACK TO BRUM AND LIVING IN A VILLA AREA I GO TO THE BAR TO A CHORUS OF REDBIRDS, REDBIRDS AND ALL THE LADS LAUGHING AT CARDIFF CITY, BIRMINGHAM AND WBA FANS LAUGH WHEN I MENTION CARDIFF OR THEY SEE MY BLUEBIRD PIN BADGE I ALWAYS WEAR . EVEN A WALSALL FAN LAST WEEK SAW MY BADGE AND SAID ---FUCK ME MATE I THOUGHT YOU PLAYED IN RED AND WERE CALLED THE REDBIRDS---WANKER--- BUT HE IS RIGHT---WE SADLY ARE A JOKE WITH FOOTBALL FANS IN THE MIDLANDS

So show the world that you've got a backbone and do something about it. It's not too late as some have suggested. You've still got the name Cardiff city haven't you? If you continue down the road of apathy even that could disappear. Tan has backed down in the past when confronted, so why wouldn't he again? Remember this.....?



Either you start fighting back or you can kiss your club goodbye forever.

Chuckles what makes you the judge on how he chose his name ...maybe it had nothing to do with our shirt colour..... and was to do with our nickname ....as you always point out to others why not practice what you preach and dont make judgements you cant prove

It's quite obvious why someone would be called something "blue" on a CCFC message board..

Is it Why are you called chuckles

VERY MUCH SO, I HAVE FOLLOWED THE CITY FOR 50 YEARS AND NEVER THOUGHT ID SEE FANS AT CARDIFF DIVIDED---I TRAVEL FROM BIRMINGHAM HOME AND AWAY EVERY WEEK---WHEN I GET BACK TO BRUM AND LIVING IN A VILLA AREA I GO TO THE BAR TO A CHORUS OF REDBIRDS, REDBIRDS AND ALL THE LADS LAUGHING AT CARDIFF CITY, BIRMINGHAM AND WBA FANS LAUGH WHEN I MENTION CARDIFF OR THEY SEE MY BLUEBIRD PIN BADGE I ALWAYS WEAR . EVEN A WALSALL FAN LAST WEEK SAW MY BADGE AND SAID ---FUCK ME MATE I THOUGHT YOU PLAYED IN RED AND WERE CALLED THE REDBIRDS---WANKER--- BUT HE IS RIGHT---WE SADLY ARE A JOKE WITH FOOTBALL FANS IN THE MIDLANDS

So show the world that you've got a backbone and do something about it. It's not too late as some have suggested. You've still got the name Cardiff city haven't you? If you continue down the road of apathy even that could disappear. Tan has backed down in the past when confronted, so why wouldn't he again? Remember this.....?



Either you start fighting back or you can kiss your club goodbye forever.

It's too late mush should have happened this time last year

Agree with magic daps and waddle,to many people have just laid down and died.We got some great passionate fans but sadly we got lots of sell out fannies as well!!!

Agree with magic daps and waddle,to many people have just laid down and died.We got some great passionate fans but sadly we got lots of sell out fannies as well!!!

I'm not having a go here, but what have you personally done to stop the rebrand? Genuine question.