is it time to call it a day at CCFC.

I feel exactly the same as the OP.

I decided to give it a go this season when I was over the initial shock of the announcement of the rebrand. Sadly my apprehension has turned into anger and Blue Tuesday was the night that broke the camels back for me. Since then I have gone to games in the hope my anger will subside and I can see a way forward to continue. I will give it to the end of the season to see how I feel although I can't see myself bothering regardless if we get promoted or not.

So have you or are you renewing your season ticket because that has to be done by the end of the month

No not yet and if I do it will be a last minute job.

Thinly veiled I wont renew if there are signs we wont get promoted

Far from it.

I share your feelings, I f*cking hate the red shirts, I hate the fact that players are so overpaid, I hate the way they go down at the slightest touch, I hate the red shirts, I hate it when a player goes down like he stood on a landmine only for the physio to come on with his magic sponge and say "your ok, play on" then gets up and sprints off. I hate the way sky control the game, I hate the red shirt.
But last night when one of our (very many) stray passes went to a blue shirt a bloke behind me shouted " c'mon city, we're in red".
It made me feel sick, a terrible sign on modern day football.
You saved our club VT and probably brought us premier league football but I won't thank you for it.

If your kids want to go then oblige, it would be appalling to embroil them in the rebrand.

If your kids want to go then oblige, it would be appalling to embroil them in the rebrand.

I think the same

Don't you just hate it when your having one of those shall I or shan't I days, the wallop tan comes up with this badge change

If ever a man needed his mind made up its now

your not alone,lots of people are thinking of calling it a day me included.everything about cardiff city at the moment is shit!!

your not alone,lots of people are thinking of calling it a day me included.everything about cardiff city at the moment is shit!!

only a few weeks to make your mind up

your not alone,lots of people are thinking of calling it a day me included.everything about cardiff city at the moment is shit!!

What, including the team and management??

In many respects we've never had it so good

I'm very anti-red but I don't believe (currently) we can do anything about it, so given a choice of 'put up' or 'go away' then there's NO decision to make. I am a Cardiff City supporter, always have been, and I'm old and wise enough to know VT is just another chapter in our long history. He is by no means the worst Chairman we've had and when (not if) he eventually leaves the new owner would make himself an instant hero by reverting back to 'traditional' blue

In the meantime, if it wasn't this 'issue' it would be something else for the more fickle amongst our fans

Been in work all day so havent had a chance to reply.

First of all thanks for all the responses I am a genuine fan of Cardiff City i have loved following the club for many years.

I am not in any way an attention seeker that is not me .I said in my post I will have to suck it up and go because of my kids .

For me I am done people say to me if Tan changed the name of the club they would be tamping and wouldnt go well I feel like that now I am tamping and with every game it gets worse.

Its not just a colour or badge to me that is Cardiff City take it away you take a huge piece of Cardiff City and its to big a piece.

The glory of the prem isnt enough no way near for me to except it i couldnt even except it for champions league football.The thought of us going to the prem which I have dreamed about for years and years is here in touching distance but I so wanted to see us in blue with are badge in the prem .For me I would av been so proud to do it without this means a lot lot less and the moment will be spoilt.I dont understand how we as fans havent done anything infact most have embraced it which in truth I no I have to respect this but it angers me beyond belief.

Tan doesnt care for any of you he just came in and blackmailed us to accept things or no money would be forthcoming he did the same with the scarf thing and now are Blue away kit is gone and he has thought of a name change. people embrace it all my anger then goes through the roof.

I can say this I will probrably take my kids one is like me but still wants to go and the other isnt bothered to games next season but I dont agree to none of it.If we go up the place will be part full of glory supporters.Good luck with Tan and I mean that I dont wish any harm on my club but the club I once so passionately supported is only half the club it once was.

So for me I am one of VT'S 25% of customers he dont give a f**k about how hurtful was that.

I am a true fan of CCFC who has been very very hurt by a man who knows nothing about football or its fans and a man who couldnt give a f**k either.The one thing I cant wait for is the day he goes and someone else comes in and just maybe I will get my true blue Cardiff City back.For the ones who disagree I hope you enjoy supporting the new Cardiff City but its not for me anymore. On top of that he is loaning the club money no debt to equity yet not good is it .

I can totally understand a lot of the views in this thread. What I don't understand is the pro-blue having a go at pro-red and the pro-red having a go at the pro-blue. We are all Cardiff fans and everyone has their own view on this. For some people, the colour change meant more than it did to others. That's fair enough. The club means something different to everyone.

I thought I could stomach the colour change but in all honesty something has just changed inside me. We have a cracking group of players who give their all but I just feel quite disillusioned and deflated. I can't explain why. It's especially since that red scarf hand out debacle.

I respect everyone's views on this provided they don't just start slagging people off who disagree with them. I am very unlikely to renew my season ticket next season because I just don't want to give £320 to Vincent Tan and would rather give it towards my family. That's my opinion. I won't stop supporting the club and when my son is old enough I will do my best to get to as many games as possible for his sake but for now I am going to take a season or two away from being a season ticket holder to gain some perspective on it all.

This whole red thing has demoralised me and confused me. I don't know why and I don't know how but that's how I feel. I wouldn't slate anyone for not renewing or renewing next season. I will still look out for our results and be pro-Cardiff City but I need some time away to just focus on my family and other things.

I feel exactly the same as the OP.

I decided to give it a go this season when I was over the initial shock of the announcement of the rebrand. Sadly my apprehension has turned into anger and Blue Tuesday was the night that broke the camels back for me. Since then I have gone to games in the hope my anger will subside and I can see a way forward to continue. I will give it to the end of the season to see how I feel although I can't see myself bothering regardless if we get promoted or not.

This is exactly how I feel.

The club doesn't feel the same to me, nor does the whole match day experience..

With the position we're in, I should be buzzing that this is the closet we've come to promotion. But with all this rebrand nonsense, the passion just isn't there for me.

I've renewed for next season because I feel I/we deserve Premiership football (if we go up that is), not some bellend that's jumping on the Premiership bandwagon. But it won't be the same..

The fact you put the colour red over your kids enjoyment is quite shocking.

It's more than a colour. It's a clubs 108 year identity and history that is being changed. I have followed City since 1968 and I agree that it is very difficult to see the club change, for what?

Ok, the fact you put that before your kids enjoyment is quite shocking.

Take the children out of the equation. I was looking at it in relation to their feelings. Clearly arrangements can be made for the children to be taken by another family member if it came to that. If a person has a strong feeling about something then they should not be criticised. They are standing up for to what they believe in.

That ass Tan wont be here long,don,t worry.The political situation in his own country will see to that.In a couple of years we will be back in BLUE.

I completely sympathise with Brickyblue. It's a crying shame that this re brand has created a situation like this. But it's not just a parents duty to entertain their kids, it's a much more important duty to learn them right from wrong and guide them morally through their youth. If you feel very strongly about something there is nothing wrong in explaining why you feel as you do to your children and they can then make up their own minds.

My kids are only just coming up to the age that they have started going to the odd City game with me, it has been quite difficult to explain to them the reason why this man has made us play in red. I have in no way tried to brain wash them, I have simply given them the facts and they both feel that what has happened is not right. They still proudly wear last seasons blue shirt and although I have said that if they really want a red shirt I will get them one, they have both refused.

They are both under 6 and they've got more moral fibre than many fully grown men I've met recently. I am very proud of them.

I haven't been to an home game since we played Ipswich early january. This pathetic rebrand as made the atmosphere dire, so its just awaydays for me from now on.

I completely sympathise with Brickyblue. It's a crying shame that this re brand has created a situation like this. But it's not just a parents duty to entertain their kids, it's a much more important duty to learn them right from wrong and guide them morally through their youth. If you feel very strongly about something there is nothing wrong in explaining why you feel as you do to your children and they can then make up their own minds.

My kids are only just coming up to the age that they have started going to the odd City game with me, it has been quite difficult to explain to them the reason why this man has made us play in red. I have in no way tried to brain wash them, I have simply given them the facts and they both feel that what has happened is not right. They still proudly wear last seasons blue shirt and although I have said that if they really want a red shirt I will get them one, they have both refused.

They are both under 6 and they've got more moral fibre than many fully grown men I've met recently. I am very proud of them.

Agree and have done the same with my kids

The fact you put the colour red over your kids enjoyment is quite shocking.

No, he's a man who stands by his principles and cant be bought by, or trampled under the foot of a Malaysian dictator.

The colour thing is a visible manifestation of how little VT thinks about YOUR club. If he does care, and he's got all that money, why not clear the debts by paying Sam, et al off, instead of loaning a million quid a month back to himself. Of course, there is the 7% interest he's getting.

Without the Malaysians, you'd have had a ten point hit back in 2010, you'd be clear of debt, playing in blue, and quite possibly in the PL by now. He's done you no favors, just bought the loyalty a few long time "fans" and a load of new plastics.

The fact you put the colour red over your kids enjoyment is quite shocking.

No, he's a man who stands by his principles and cant be bought by, or trampled under the foot of a Malaysian dictator.

The colour thing is a visible manifestation of how little VT thinks about YOUR club. If he does care, and he's got all that money, why not clear the debts by paying Sam, et al off, instead of loaning a million quid a month back to himself. Of course, there is the 7% interest he's getting.

Without the Malaysians, you'd have had a ten point hit back in 2010, you'd be clear of debt, playing in blue, and quite possibly in the PL by now. He's done you no favors, just bought the loyalty a few long time "fans" and a load of new plastics.

Agree with the first line of your post. It's hard to walk away from your club.

However the last paragraph is nothing more than an assumption. As much as I hate what tan has done to our club, his intitial investment may well have saved us from going bust, as administration was not really an option for CCFC this time last year.

The fact you put the colour red over your kids enjoyment is quite shocking.

No, he's a man who stands by his principles and cant be bought by, or trampled under the foot of a Malaysian dictator.

The colour thing is a visible manifestation of how little VT thinks about YOUR club. If he does care, and he's got all that money, why not clear the debts by paying Sam, et al off, instead of loaning a million quid a month back to himself. Of course, there is the 7% interest he's getting.

Without the Malaysians, you'd have had a ten point hit back in 2010, you'd be clear of debt, playing in blue, and quite possibly in the PL by now. He's done you no favors, just bought the loyalty a few long time "fans" and a load of new plastics.

again I agree problem is although its hard I have to respect the people who disagree but how can they not see what has and still is happening here.There is a new rumour everyday and all VT has achieved is a load of pissed off fans and another load which are fine because we are top of the league which given time will also be pissed .

I havent the words to explain how pissed off with it all I am and getting more angry by the day

The fact you put the colour red over your kids enjoyment is quite shocking.

No, he's a man who stands by his principles and cant be bought by, or trampled under the foot of a Malaysian dictator.

The colour thing is a visible manifestation of how little VT thinks about YOUR club. If he does care, and he's got all that money, why not clear the debts by paying Sam, et al off, instead of loaning a million quid a month back to himself. Of course, there is the 7% interest he's getting.

Without the Malaysians, you'd have had a ten point hit back in 2010, you'd be clear of debt, playing in blue, and quite possibly in the PL by now. He's done you no favors, just bought the loyalty a few long time "fans" and a load of new plastics.

Agree with the first line of your post. It's hard to walk away from your club.

However the last paragraph is nothing more than an assumption. As much as I hate what tan has done to our club, his initial investment may well have saved us from going bust, as administration was not really an option for CCFC this time last year.

Fair point but the way he is going we will be worse when he goes it will be a bigger problem than when SH but agree he did come in when we were in the shit big time and he can still pay things off in time fair enough but what he has done to us since is scandalous.

i love the city always have . but. i have just moved in to my new house and the place needs major work. also the closer we get to the prem. the less i want it. as a youngster i had dreams of watching cardiff play at wemberly. been there done that, now its watching city in the prem. could happen. so my dreams with the city are almost gone. im not that excited about going in the prem to be honest. as stan (qpr) said its not all its cracked up to be, and all this red shit, and the prem brings in a new type of fan. i think i will just see how the ball rolls

i love the city always have . but. i have just moved in to my new house and the place needs major work. also the closer we get to the prem. the less i want it. as a youngster i had dreams of watching cardiff play at wemberly. been there done that, now its watching city in the prem. could happen. so my dreams with the city are almost gone. im not that excited about going in the prem to be honest. as stan (qpr) said its not all its cracked up to be, and all this red shit, and the prem brings in a new type of fan. i think i will just see how the ball rolls

Good luck with how it pans out for you .

If you need a good builder give me a shout

Its YOUR club, and you all have many different loyalties. What I think matters little, but when the "owner" is willing to let a quarter of the supporters walk away, because "if you go to a cinema you don't get to choose whats being shown", I feel its about time to put the local rivalry on hold, and show some Welsh unity. He really doesn't have an idea about what football is all about, does he. Say what you like about Sam, he may have had an agenda to make money out of the club, but he knows what a football club means to the supporters, and he'd have never left this sort of "re-branding" take place. What oriental mumbo jumbo next? Turn the stadium through ninety degrees for the sake of feng shui?

See you in the PL next season, as BLUEBIRDS?

Its YOUR club, and you all have many different loyalties. What I think matters little, but when the "owner" is willing to let a quarter of the supporters walk away, because "if you go to a cinema you don't get to choose whats being shown", I feel its about time to put the local rivalry on hold, and show some Welsh unity. He really doesn't have an idea about what football is all about, does he. Say what you like about Sam, he may have had an agenda to make money out of the club, but he knows what a football club means to the supporters, and he'd have never left this sort of "re-branding" take place. What oriental mumbo jumbo next? Turn the stadium through ninety degrees for the sake of feng shui?

See you in the PL next season, as BLUEBIRDS?

your not alone,lots of people are thinking of calling it a day me included.everything about cardiff city at the moment is shit!!

What, including the team and management??

In many respects we've never had it so good

I'm very anti-red but I don't believe (currently) we can do anything about it, so given a choice of 'put up' or 'go away' then there's NO decision to make. I am a Cardiff City supporter, always have been, and I'm old and wise enough to know VT is just another chapter in our long history. He is by no means the worst Chairman we've had and when (not if) he eventually leaves the new owner would make himself an instant hero by reverting back to 'traditional' blue

In the meantime, if it wasn't this 'issue' it would be something else for the more fickle amongst our fans

Very naive to think that a new owner would automatically change us back. That's just burying your head in the sand.

The longer he's here, the less chance it will change back. In 20 years time, for example, why would a new owner automatically change us back? Many people would only hve known us in red - we would hve the same thing again.

Which is why we need to show our disgust at this rebrand crap.

It be stupid to let one man push you away, don't let him win.

It be stupid to let one man push you away, don't let him win.

I have had a chat with my kids /family and they still want to go so I will take em but I hurt so much at games I dont want to go .Still havent renewed finding it hard to but i will for my kids.

I can see more and more people fighting for the club which is pleasing the more the better makes it all easier to handle.

I understand your reasons and that.

In all honesty this march will likely not happen.. it will be the KCB all over again.. having so much hype and that then they will make a pathetic excuse up and give up.

It be stupid to let one man push you away, don't let him win.

I have had a chat with my kids /family and they still want to go so I will take em but I hurt so much at games I dont want to go .Still havent renewed finding it hard to but i will for my kids.

I can see more and more people fighting for the club which is pleasing the more the better makes it all easier to handle.

Yes while fans like yourself and I still go, we can continue to fight for our identity back and not let people forget who CARDIFF CITY REALLY ARE " BLUE/THE BLUEBIRDS & THE FANS CLUB " NOT TANS TOY.

It be stupid to let one man push you away, don't let him win.

I have had a chat with my kids /family and they still want to go so I will take em but I hurt so much at games I dont want to go .Still havent renewed finding it hard to but i will for my kids.

I can see more and more people fighting for the club which is pleasing the more the better makes it all easier to handle.

Yes while fans like yourself and I still go, we can continue to fight for our identity back and not let people forget who CARDIFF CITY REALLY ARE " BLUE/THE BLUEBIRDS & THE FANS CLUB " NOT TANS TOY.

I hope we win the day annis I am fighting my arse off to get are identity back never been so angry and hurt at CCFC.

Hope this march goes ahead it might give us the springboard to continue in numbers thats what we need.Maybe I will thank my kids for keeping me going to games my oldest son 11 feels like I do and my youngest dont like the red but has the blue away kit and I have left that decision totally up to them.My sons are the only kids i see that still wear blue and I am proud of em foe standing up for what they believe in just like there old man

I understand your reasons and that.

In all honesty this march will likely not happen.. it will be the KCB all over again.. having so much hype and that then they will make a pathetic excuse up and give up.

You are exactly the sort of person that should be there!! You understand why others want to fight against this, if someone like you can't be bothered, then we will struggle.

It's time for us to stop sitting on the sidelines and hoping everyone else will do it, we have an opportunity to show how we feel, and all we have to do is walk a mile and a half before one game. You don't have to do any more than that, you don't have to have a flag or anything, just being there in support is enough.