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Re: " I believe a target man was essential "

Sat Mar 09, 2013 7:29 pm

Damned Yank wrote:
steve davies wrote:
carlccfc wrote:
steve davies wrote:All this talk of Malky should have done this Malky should have done this is rubbish
I notice all the armchair coaches criticise but never name players who they believe Malky has missed out on.
How does anyone know who Malky made enquiries for and if he was knocked back in his efforts to sign players.im sure Malky appreciates reading the echo to find himself constantly criticised for not signing the elusive target man

Steve, I am a fan who supports the team regardless up and down the country, I am entitled to my opinion as much as you are to criticise mine. I have quite clearly said Malky is a fantastic manager and someone we should do our very best to keep hold of but is he above criticism? No he is not, exactly like Sir Alex Ferguson is not.

You have asked me a couple of times to name the elusive striker that we should have signed, that is the managers job not mine, as Tan would say I am just a paying customer.

If you believe we don't need the striker then fine but I do.

Another point would be I wrote that Malky knows why he didn't sign another striker or the Centre Half, I did not state that he didn't try, did I ?

I read in yesterday's paper on the message boards that Malky should drop Whittingham and try Kimbo and that Mason deserves a start, it is all about opinions as I have already said but I doubt Malky will be too concerned about them.



Carl

I'm sure Malky is under more pressure from tan than any fans Yes everybody is entitled to opinions but all I'm saying is what players do people think we're available at the time that would make them disappointed Malky did not sign him.
No matter what all us football pundits think the reality is we are 5 points clear with two games in hand and I believe if we win Tuesday the pressure reverts to the teams below us as they are fighting over the one place.
Every manager and fan of teams below us would swap places in a heartbeat.
I find it very hard to see why anyone could fault or criticise Malky at this moment in time


Or even if we draw Steve. Other teams are running out of games. Hull and watford have to play each other too.

My son said to me earlier, "watch us blow it against Leicester!", my reply was even if we do it doesn't matter because of today's results, a victory would be superb but a draw would not be the end of the world.

Re: " I believe a target man was essential "

Sat Mar 09, 2013 7:37 pm

Think it's time for Malky & his players to show some grit and get this season wrapped up over the next few weeks , lets do it without all the stress and edge of seat stuff , lets show we can be champions and end this season in style.

Re: " I believe a target man was essential "

Sat Mar 09, 2013 7:40 pm

carlccfc wrote:
Damned Yank wrote:
steve davies wrote:
carlccfc wrote:
steve davies wrote:All this talk of Malky should have done this Malky should have done this is rubbish
I notice all the armchair coaches criticise but never name players who they believe Malky has missed out on.
How does anyone know who Malky made enquiries for and if he was knocked back in his efforts to sign players.im sure Malky appreciates reading the echo to find himself constantly criticised for not signing the elusive target man

Steve, I am a fan who supports the team regardless up and down the country, I am entitled to my opinion as much as you are to criticise mine. I have quite clearly said Malky is a fantastic manager and someone we should do our very best to keep hold of but is he above criticism? No he is not, exactly like Sir Alex Ferguson is not.

You have asked me a couple of times to name the elusive striker that we should have signed, that is the managers job not mine, as Tan would say I am just a paying customer.

If you believe we don't need the striker then fine but I do.

Another point would be I wrote that Malky knows why he didn't sign another striker or the Centre Half, I did not state that he didn't try, did I ?

I read in yesterday's paper on the message boards that Malky should drop Whittingham and try Kimbo and that Mason deserves a start, it is all about opinions as I have already said but I doubt Malky will be too concerned about them.



Carl

I'm sure Malky is under more pressure from tan than any fans Yes everybody is entitled to opinions but all I'm saying is what players do people think we're available at the time that would make them disappointed Malky did not sign him.
No matter what all us football pundits think the reality is we are 5 points clear with two games in hand and I believe if we win Tuesday the pressure reverts to the teams below us as they are fighting over the one place.
Every manager and fan of teams below us would swap places in a heartbeat.
I find it very hard to see why anyone could fault or criticise Malky at this moment in time


Or even if we draw Steve. Other teams are running out of games. Hull and watford have to play each other too.

My son said to me earlier, "watch us blow it against Leicester!", my reply was even if we do it doesn't matter because of today's results, a victory would be superb but a draw would not be the end of the world.


You're rht, a draw and we gain points on everyone else. Hopefully Burnley beat Hull.

Re: " I believe a target man was essential "

Sat Mar 09, 2013 7:49 pm

carlccfc wrote:
Damned Yank wrote:
steve davies wrote:
carlccfc wrote:
steve davies wrote:All this talk of Malky should have done this Malky should have done this is rubbish
I notice all the armchair coaches criticise but never name players who they believe Malky has missed out on.
How does anyone know who Malky made enquiries for and if he was knocked back in his efforts to sign players.im sure Malky appreciates reading the echo to find himself constantly criticised for not signing the elusive target man

Steve, I am a fan who supports the team regardless up and down the country, I am entitled to my opinion as much as you are to criticise mine. I have quite clearly said Malky is a fantastic manager and someone we should do our very best to keep hold of but is he above criticism? No he is not, exactly like Sir Alex Ferguson is not.

You have asked me a couple of times to name the elusive striker that we should have signed, that is the managers job not mine, as Tan would say I am just a paying customer.

If you believe we don't need the striker then fine but I do.

Another point would be I wrote that Malky knows why he didn't sign another striker or the Centre Half, I did not state that he didn't try, did I ?

I read in yesterday's paper on the message boards that Malky should drop Whittingham and try Kimbo and that Mason deserves a start, it is all about opinions as I have already said but I doubt Malky will be too concerned about them.



Carl

I'm sure Malky is under more pressure from tan than any fans Yes everybody is entitled to opinions but all I'm saying is what players do people think we're available at the time that would make them disappointed Malky did not sign him.
No matter what all us football pundits think the reality is we are 5 points clear with two games in hand and I believe if we win Tuesday the pressure reverts to the teams below us as they are fighting over the one place.
Every manager and fan of teams below us would swap places in a heartbeat.
I find it very hard to see why anyone could fault or criticise Malky at this moment in time


Or even if we draw Steve. Other teams are running out of games. Hull and watford have to play each other too.

My son said to me earlier, "watch us blow it against Leicester!", my reply was even if we do it doesn't matter because of today's results, a victory would be superb but a draw would not be the end of the world.



god help us if we reach the premiership most of the pessimists who support this club will have us relegated by september

Re: " I believe a target man was essential "

Sat Mar 09, 2013 8:30 pm

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Re: " I believe a target man was essential "

Sat Mar 09, 2013 9:29 pm

Strange thread, I did believe we probably needed a target man, don't now but believe we need a much better service from midfield. Right back has bothered me most, but wouldn't expect us to sign one now.

I've not been bothered once (genuinely) about what our rivals have been doing as we have the players and the manager to get us home, Tuesdays performance against Derby was a concern, but a full squad for the run in will do the job, a win v Leicester on Tues will be massive.

Re: " I believe a target man was essential "

Sat Mar 09, 2013 9:43 pm

Valley Lad wrote:Strange thread, I did believe we probably needed a target man, don't now but believe we need a much better service from midfield. Right back has bothered me most, but wouldn't expect us to sign one now.

I've not been bothered once (genuinely) about what our rivals have been doing as we have the players and the manager to get us home, Tuesdays performance against Derby was a concern, but a full squad for the run in will do the job, a win v Leicester on Tues will be massive.

Why is it a strange thread ?

What has happened to our Strikeforce that has made you change your mind about the need of a target man ?

Or is it because of the results and consequently the league position we have achieved so far ?

Re: " I believe a target man was essential "

Sat Mar 09, 2013 10:00 pm

Valley Lad wrote:Strange thread, I did believe we probably needed a target man, don't now but believe we need a much better service from midfield. Right back has bothered me most, but wouldn't expect us to sign one now.

I've not been bothered once (genuinely) about what our rivals have been doing as we have the players and the manager to get us home, Tuesdays performance against Derby was a concern, but a full squad for the run in will do the job, a win v Leicester on Tues will be massive.


Its my fault.
I took bits out of Carls report, perhaps if people read them, then they would see it was a Very positive one by Carlos. :ayatollah: :ayatollah:


Carl Curtis: He’ll make mistakes but Malky will take Cardiff City to Premier

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Cardiff City boss Malky Mackay
Cardiff City will get promoted this season. I am adamant of that.

There is still plenty of work to be done and even though results have not been great recently we deserve to be where we are – top of the table.

What matters above all else is that we get promotion, whether that is as champions or not.

In Malky Mackay we have a fantastic manager who has shown great leadership during his time at Cardiff.

He signs players who are going to fight for the cause until the final whistle blows in any game.

Since joining the Bluebirds, Malky has brought the club and the fans closer, he works very well with the press and, in my opinion, has got a very bright future in football management.

It is important to our club and its success that we keep hold of Malky and support him in the task of making us a Premier League club and, when that happens, establishing us in the top flight.

What Malky has not got yet is the experience in management, but he is learning and finding his way and, to be fair, who could argue with his achievements at City so far?

A play-off position and a League Cup Final were unexpected and massive accomplishments last season and, despite there being no cup run this season, our target is firmly on promotion.

And with 11 games to go, we are in a good position to achieve our goal. Yes, the manager will make mistakes along the way and I still believe that mistakes were made in January during the transfer window.

We needed a centre-half and a target man to come in and add strength in those positions, and only Malky will know why he did not add to the squad in that way.

The signing of Fraizer Campbell was an excellent acquisition and will benefit our team; he has already gone some way to repaying the £600,000 that we paid for him.

But I believe a target man was essential, someone to compliment the squad and the players we have.

I have also written on several occasions over the past few months that we needed a centre-half also, either one who is better than we already have or someone who has the experience to step in at short notice to cover injuries or suspensions. The need for that defender was all too evident at Middlesbrough last Saturday.

Malky shuffled the pack by making two changes to the defence to cover the loss of one player, Mark Hudson.

During the first half our back line was all at sea and not the tight unit it normally is, so at half-time a further change was made to the defence.

Those changes were a result of us not bringing in a centre-half during the last two transfer windows.

I don’t envisage Malky dipping into the loan market unless it is absolutely necessary as I am sure he will not want to upset the spirit in the camp.

Malky puts a lot of trust in his players and wouldn’t want to blow that relationship between himself and his squad by letting down the players who have got us in to this fantastic position.

As I said in my opening line, I believe we will get promoted but I feel life could have been a little easier on the nerves had we strengthened the squad a little further than we actually did.

I am not concerned that we are not playing until after our competitors do over the course of the next couple of days.

People talk of us letting slip an 11-point lead but I look for the positives in that we established an 11-point lead and no other team has been able to do that.

A massive game awaits on Tuesday and I suspect Leicester are still smarting from our pre-Christmas smash and grab at their place – now is the time for everyone to be united and support the team right through to the final whistle.

Please don’t leave the stadium with 15 minutes to go, like many fans did when Derby scored on Tuesday evening.

Like the players do, we should give it everything we have got until the final whistle.

Malky has said it countless times this season; what our support means to the players and the lift they get when we are in full flow.

So let’s heed the manager’s words and support our team.

Let’s leave the politics of the club be for the last 11 games and concentrate on channelling our energy on supporting the football team.

Re: " I believe a target man was essential "

Sat Mar 09, 2013 10:16 pm

carlccfc wrote:
Valley Lad wrote:Strange thread, I did believe we probably needed a target man, don't now but believe we need a much better service from midfield. Right back has bothered me most, but wouldn't expect us to sign one now.

I've not been bothered once (genuinely) about what our rivals have been doing as we have the players and the manager to get us home, Tuesdays performance against Derby was a concern, but a full squad for the run in will do the job, a win v Leicester on Tues will be massive.

Why is it a strange thread ?

What has happened to our Strikeforce that has made you change your mind about the need of a target man ?

Or is it because of the results and consequently the league position we have achieved so far ?


Carl, I didn't mean the Op, I meant some of the responses, like because we didn't bring in a CM and a defender we'll finish 4th, and if we play in Prem like we have last two years we'll come straight back down.

My mind has been changed about our strike force because I wasn't sure Campbell & Bellamy would work? Campbell whilst not a target man is decent in the air and can hold/ link up play. With HH & Gestede in reserve ( yes Gestede) I believe we have enough to throw on in desperation late in a game if chasing a result.

I didn't think Mason & Bellamy did or would work up front ( too small ) but believe we have more than enough creativity in midfield to get the best out of Campbell & Bellamy :ayatollah: :malky:

Re: " I believe a target man was essential "

Sat Mar 09, 2013 10:36 pm

sorry lads disagree
holding midfeild required
whitts out of position our most creative player
holding player just not right