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Sadly Tony Blue your position seems to be being adopted by many - "lets trust him cos hes rich" regardless of whatever whim or flight of fancy he has in mind this week. Such slavish conformity is so far removed from what I thought our supporters would do is sad. Very sad. And all because some are hell bent on promotion whatever the cost.I dont want to have another rebrand discussion as its been done to death. We are where we are - but this issue of simply falling into line with Tans wishes is slightly differnet and its pissing me off. FFS why are we rolling over and allowing all this to happen. He dont give a toss about those who attend the games, only the potential asian market. He's said that openly

My 'adopted' position comes from years of seeing this club lurch from one financial crisis to another. Frankly I'm sick of HMRC winding up orders, selling everything that is not nailed down and living from hand to mouth year after year.

It is time that we woke up and understood that we have to pay our way. VT has a vision one which I trust because he is a proven businessman, unlike you who is only a proven keyboard warrior.

Tell me if people like me are slavishly rolling over, just what has your brave soul done to deserve self-appointed hero status? The answer is f**k all and you will continue to do f**k all because you don't have the ability or means to do anything about it.

In contrast I can see beyond the blunt bigotry and understand what VT is attempting to do. He may need some careful guidance at times but he will only understand us if we learn to trust him, but at the end of the day I'm not going to listen to the crap which says we should do a Glasgow Rangers and start all over again.

WHAT PLANET IS EVERYONE LIVING ON--VT WILL DO WHAT HE WANTS -HE HAS CHANGED THE KIT, WE ARE ALL SCARED OF HIM NOT BANKROLLING THE CLUB ANYMORE CHANGING OUR NAME DONT REALLY MATTER ANYMORE---OUR HISTORY WENT WHEN WE RAN OUT AT HOME IN RED, I WILL BE SITTING IN A RED SEAT NEXT YEAR--WE ALL HELPED FUND A STATUE FOR FRED KEENOR OUR CAPTAIN AND CLUB HERRO FROM 27---FRED WILL BE TURNING IN HIS GRAVE IF HE CAN SEE HOW OUR HISTORY HAS BEEN DESTROYED

Tell me Tony why am i a "proven keyboard warrior". Link me to one thread where i have needlessy abused or threatened anyone. Why am I a self appointed hero - I happen to disagree vehemently with you but I havent resorted to name calling and insults. Where is my blunt bigotry - point me to one insult i have thrown at VT because of his race or religion.

I think he is taking us all for a ride and some cant see it. Disagree with me if you like but dont try to discredit my argument with shots in the dark and dont try to vindicate your position by the "ive supported the city for years" position - I have too

As a Welsh person who supports all things Welsh and is a Wrexham fan. And i have no animosity towards Cardiff you are doing our nation proud.But i do think that the Bluebirds are being stripped of their identity you do not play in red you are not called dragons,you are the bluebirds stick up for the fans. Maybe one day these owners will pull out and leave Cardiff fans in a situation where you have to choose between red or blue.Please pick the colour that all fans within the football community associate you with BLUE.Good luck in the premiership.ps. Wrexham changed their nickname from Robins to Dragons and the club faithful want to go back to the Robins which hopefully will happen next year.

Tell me Tony why am i a "proven keyboard warrior". Link me to one thread where i have needlessy abused or threatened anyone. Why am I a self appointed hero - I happen to disagree vehemently with you but I havent resorted to name calling and insults. Where is my blunt bigotry - point me to one insult i have thrown at VT because of his race or religion.

I think he is taking us all for a ride and some cant see it. Disagree with me if you like but dont try to discredit my argument with shots in the dark and dont try to vindicate your position by the "ive supported the city for years" position - I have too

Read your posts back without the rose tinted glasses and you might get the answers you require.

If you believe what I have said is 'name calling' then you must be a very sensitive soul who shouldn't really get into debates.

The point I was making (and is so dam obvious) is that you were happy to proclaim supporters like me as 'slavish' but you haven't actually done anything yourself about the rebrand i.e. A self-appointed hero.

One thing that really gets my goat is when someone is happy to dish it out, but can't take when its given back and then they play the victim card to defend their pathetic reasoning.

WHAT PLANET IS EVERYONE LIVING ON--VT WILL DO WHAT HE WANTS -HE HAS CHANGED THE KIT, WE ARE ALL SCARED OF HIM NOT BANKROLLING THE CLUB ANYMORE CHANGING OUR NAME DONT REALLY MATTER ANYMORE---OUR HISTORY WENT WHEN WE RAN OUT AT HOME IN RED, I WILL BE SITTING IN A RED SEAT NEXT YEAR--WE ALL HELPED FUND A STATUE FOR FRED KEENOR OUR CAPTAIN AND CLUB HERRO FROM 27---FRED WILL BE TURNING IN HIS GRAVE IF HE CAN SEE HOW OUR HISTORY HAS BEEN DESTROYED

Yea I bet old Fred will be right pissed off at us being a Premiership club

FFS Tony is that the best you can come up with. I expressed an opinion that the unquestioning acceptance of some to eveyrthing Tan does is pissing me off. In response you called me a "proven keyboard warrior". Is that what you call a debate? If asking you to substantiate that comment makes me senstive then guilty as charged. However, I didnt insult anyone and claimed no moral high ground so quite why Im a "self appointed hero" is also beyond me. Ill leave the rose coloured spectacles for you and take my blue ones - in the meantime if you cant come up with a cogent argument to back up your insults all we've established is that you have no idea what a debate actually is

Dont trust Tan at all he said we would keep the Blue kit and badge but then said back me and my rebrand or you will get nothing .Everyone well most jumped ship sold out and said ok shit dont go have it your way so he did.


No he didn't, now if you going to use snippets have the decency to use the whole section in the right context.
he offered to withdraw the rebrand and allow us to carry on in blue, but stated that he would not continue with his investment which was part of the package, when people weighed it up they realised the the future of the club was at risk and rallied around to ask him to go ahead, which is what he did, was you in a coma when that happened.

Dont trust him after this and just to add Tan knows f**k all about football and knows even less about football fans which is his downfall in eyes.

Like that bloke said in the programme, he knows nothing about Parmacy's, but he still opened one hundred branches this year, we got people at the club that know about football, let him handle the business, which you can see from his track record, he does well.

I cant help but think he has planted the seed like he did before with the red thing .You just dont no what he is gonna do and that is why I havent renewed my season ticket yet.

And you actually think for one second after announcing no name change on TV he'll go back on that and lose face and trust worldwide, we ain't talking Ridsdale here.

What I will say is I will fight for my club but I would like other fans to do the same the blue balloon's up at watford is a start Tans circus goes on in which direction though ????????????

What have you done to fight so far, and would you be happy to fight enough to drive VT away?

Anyway Tan is happy that in his words 75 % are happy and the other 25 % who are not doesnt matter so I dont matter to him well what an idiot of a man good shout there Tan

He was comparing that to a standard business module, and as for 75%-25% it is apparent it's more like 95% -5% in this case at best.

Gwyn responding to this a late now but I have read what you have said and I stand by what I have said .The fact of the matter is you and me are as far apart on all this as Cardiff is to Malaysia.I fight for my club in lots of ways thats all you need to no I will leave it there.

Don't know about anyone else, but people like Gwyn who bury their heads in the sand (with their trousers down and arses in the air) make me sick.

We all know what Tan is doing - raping the identity of Cardiff City, The Bluebirds!

First it was the rebrand, then the blue away shirt has disappeared closely followed by the hideous 'scarf gate' when not only 'City' dissolved from our name, our beloved bluebird changed to red!

Does anyone really believe a word Tan says anymore?