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Re: If Watford are promoted to the best league in the World.

Tue Feb 26, 2013 10:51 pm

If Watford "work the System" with eleven or so "loan" players & its all legal then so be it.
Feeder club or not, you earn the right to promotion from this league.

My only concern is, "what if it was us"??? I mean, what if it was Cardiff City FC doing what WFC are doing?

I doubt we would have any mercy from the English based media at all. Would our club not be labelled as CHEATS???

It begs the question!

Re: If Watford are promoted to the best league in the World.

Tue Feb 26, 2013 11:06 pm

Briggsy wrote:Stop reading the papers regarding our owners, they have been in football for 25 years and spend millions on scouting, they are very good at what they do. Yes we have to many loans in the club but its working with a good mix of our academy. How much have you spent over the last few years? How much is your debt? How much is Bellamy costing per game etc?

If you honestly think the Pozzo,s will collect the premiership money and run your totally wrong, but if they did we would not be left millions in debt. Truthfully I was worried at the start but now loving the footie we are playing.

Good luck for rest of the season


Loaning a shit load of players from udinese and granada isn't a million pounds worth of scouting you tool lol your owner owns these clubs! I believe every team deserves credit where it's due for getting promoted even the jack bastards but on this occasion if Watford went up I think it would be unfair and they don't deserve it, but hey cant blame Zola or your owners really because they haven't broke any rules, it's the football leagues fault and the rules.

Re: If Watford are promoted to the best league in the World.

Tue Feb 26, 2013 11:22 pm

If I could pick two teams to go up,it would be Cardiff and Watford.

Re: If Watford are promoted to the best league in the World.

Tue Feb 26, 2013 11:30 pm

RICK+CCFC wrote:If Watford "work the System" with eleven or so "loan" players & its all legal then so be it.
Feeder club or not, you earn the right to promotion from this league.

My only concern is, "what if it was us"??? I mean, what if it was Cardiff City FC doing what WFC are doing?

I doubt we would have any mercy from the English based media at all. Would our club not be labelled as CHEATS???

It begs the question!


Of course we would. We were vilified for trying to pay our bills and treated like scum because Bellamy wanted to play for us and not Spurs or West Ham.

Having watched Udinese play Napoli the other evening their rejects/youngsters will not be enough to keep Watford up next year. Zola has done a good job meshing a load of loans together but the off season will be make or break for them. Hes gonna need to buy the bulk of a premier league squad and time will tell if he can pull that off and get them playing.

I would rather be in our position and I think in general Malkys stance on loans is spot on.

Re: If Watford are promoted to the best league in the World.

Wed Feb 27, 2013 12:26 am

Annis, Watford are a small club in terms of support but a much bigger club than us in terms of history. Numerous cup semi finals, famous players and three stints in the premier league if they go up next year.

I think Watford will eclipse Udinese and become the Pozzos main priority.

:old:

Re: If Watford are promoted to the best league in the World.

Wed Feb 27, 2013 10:35 am

they are doing nothing wrong. its all above board if you agree with it or not.

the big issue for watford will be if the rules are changed to stop it. if the rules are changed in the summer then watford will effectively have to buy a whole squad for the prem providing they get promoted of course.

Re: If Watford are promoted to the best league in the World.

Wed Feb 27, 2013 10:41 am

Briggsy wrote:
horse_face wrote:Also Troy Deeney is a criminal and should be in jail. Scumbag.


In that case with a high percentage of your fans!!


That's a very unfair & broad generalisation.

Re: If Watford are promoted to the best league in the World.

Wed Feb 27, 2013 10:54 am

Barry Chuckle wrote:
Briggsy wrote:
horse_face wrote:Also Troy Deeney is a criminal and should be in jail. Scumbag.


In that case with a high percentage of your fans!!


That's a very unfair & broad generalisation.


I take it back Barry, Should off put Troy had done his time and should be allowed to carry on with his life and to fair most fans wanted him out of the club for what he done but he come back and given 100% and won us over.

Re: If Watford are promoted to the best league in the World.

Wed Feb 27, 2013 11:15 am

Yes, I don't know what he did, but if he's paid his time then that's that.

Re: If Watford are promoted to the best league in the World.

Wed Feb 27, 2013 11:56 am

What happens if all the loan players return to their parent clubs or are sold on, as they are now deemed ready for first team action and they send the next batch of young players for first team action in the premier league. Watford would be seen as the ultimate shop window club. If Watford actually sign these players it would just be another way for the owners to drain money out of the club. If they were serious they would be putting plans in place to redevelop Vicarage Rd.

Re: If Watford are promoted to the best league in the World.

Wed Feb 27, 2013 12:08 pm

bluebird1972 wrote:What happens if all the loan players return to their parent clubs or are sold on, as they are now deemed ready for first team action and they send the next batch of young players for first team action in the premier league. Watford would be seen as the ultimate shop window club. If Watford actually sign these players it would just be another way for the owners to drain money out of the club. If they were serious they would be putting plans in place to redevelop Vicarage Rd.


Redevelop plans are in place but are waiting for the Premiership or bigger crowds, regarding players we are led to believe that when a players comes on loan if we are happy and the player is happy they will sign for the club. All 3 clubs are a shop window for the pozzo's as this is how they make money, they find young promising players, sign them with the view to making a heathly profits in the future. They loan out loads of players to other clubs not just to us or Granada.

Re: If Watford are promoted to the best league in the World.

Wed Feb 27, 2013 12:27 pm

Briggsy wrote:
bluebird1972 wrote:What happens if all the loan players return to their parent clubs or are sold on, as they are now deemed ready for first team action and they send the next batch of young players for first team action in the premier league. Watford would be seen as the ultimate shop window club. If Watford actually sign these players it would just be another way for the owners to drain money out of the club. If they were serious they would be putting plans in place to redevelop Vicarage Rd.


Redevelop plans are in place but are waiting for the Premiership or bigger crowds, regarding players we are led to believe that when a players comes on loan if we are happy and the player is happy they will sign for the club. All 3 clubs are a shop window for the pozzo's as this is how they make money, they find young promising players, sign them with the view to making a heathly profits in the future. They loan out loads of players to other clubs not just to us or Granada.


So they will use Watford to drain money out of the club then, as they already own the players.

Re: If Watford are promoted to the best league in the World.

Wed Feb 27, 2013 1:34 pm

bluebird1972 wrote:
Briggsy wrote:
bluebird1972 wrote:What happens if all the loan players return to their parent clubs or are sold on, as they are now deemed ready for first team action and they send the next batch of young players for first team action in the premier league. Watford would be seen as the ultimate shop window club. If Watford actually sign these players it would just be another way for the owners to drain money out of the club. If they were serious they would be putting plans in place to redevelop Vicarage Rd.


Redevelop plans are in place but are waiting for the Premiership or bigger crowds, regarding players we are led to believe that when a players comes on loan if we are happy and the player is happy they will sign for the club. All 3 clubs are a shop window for the pozzo's as this is how they make money, they find young promising players, sign them with the view to making a heathly profits in the future. They loan out loads of players to other clubs not just to us or Granada.


So they will use Watford to drain money out of the club then, as they already own the players.



Watford wont pay for the players though, we will pay the wages and if sold Pozzo's get the money which they invest into all 3 clubs.

Re: If Watford are promoted to the best league in the World.

Wed Feb 27, 2013 1:44 pm

Briggsy wrote:
bluebird1972 wrote:
Briggsy wrote:
bluebird1972 wrote:What happens if all the loan players return to their parent clubs or are sold on, as they are now deemed ready for first team action and they send the next batch of young players for first team action in the premier league. Watford would be seen as the ultimate shop window club. If Watford actually sign these players it would just be another way for the owners to drain money out of the club. If they were serious they would be putting plans in place to redevelop Vicarage Rd.


Redevelop plans are in place but are waiting for the Premiership or bigger crowds, regarding players we are led to believe that when a players comes on loan if we are happy and the player is happy they will sign for the club. All 3 clubs are a shop window for the pozzo's as this is how they make money, they find young promising players, sign them with the view to making a heathly profits in the future. They loan out loads of players to other clubs not just to us or Granada.


So they will use Watford to drain money out of the club then, as they already own the players.



Watford wont pay for the players though, we will pay the wages and if sold Pozzo's get the money which they invest into all 3 clubs.


If you do that in the Premier League it will be looked into. There haven't been many cases of the FA investigating 3rd party ownership, simply because it doesn't really happen here. But there are rules against it. I am sure your owners understand this already and will probably have some scheme to get around it.

Re: If Watford are promoted to the best league in the World.

Wed Feb 27, 2013 2:20 pm

evanmorgan wrote:
Briggsy wrote:
bluebird1972 wrote:
Briggsy wrote:
bluebird1972 wrote:What happens if all the loan players return to their parent clubs or are sold on, as they are now deemed ready for first team action and they send the next batch of young players for first team action in the premier league. Watford would be seen as the ultimate shop window club. If Watford actually sign these players it would just be another way for the owners to drain money out of the club. If they were serious they would be putting plans in place to redevelop Vicarage Rd.


Redevelop plans are in place but are waiting for the Premiership or bigger crowds, regarding players we are led to believe that when a players comes on loan if we are happy and the player is happy they will sign for the club. All 3 clubs are a shop window for the pozzo's as this is how they make money, they find young promising players, sign them with the view to making a heathly profits in the future. They loan out loads of players to other clubs not just to us or Granada.


So they will use Watford to drain money out of the club then, as they already own the players.



Watford wont pay for the players though, we will pay the wages and if sold Pozzo's get the money which they invest into all 3 clubs.


If you do that in the Premier League it will be looked into. There haven't been many cases of the FA investigating 3rd party ownership, simply because it doesn't really happen here. But there are rules against it. I am sure your owners understand this already and will probably have some scheme to get around it.


I believe each club is owed by a different family member, not sure if this would acceptable though.

Re: If Watford are promoted to the best league in the World.

Wed Feb 27, 2013 4:20 pm

Briggsy wrote:
evanmorgan wrote:
Briggsy wrote:
bluebird1972 wrote:
Briggsy wrote:
bluebird1972 wrote:What happens if all the loan players return to their parent clubs or are sold on, as they are now deemed ready for first team action and they send the next batch of young players for first team action in the premier league. Watford would be seen as the ultimate shop window club. If Watford actually sign these players it would just be another way for the owners to drain money out of the club. If they were serious they would be putting plans in place to redevelop Vicarage Rd.


Redevelop plans are in place but are waiting for the Premiership or bigger crowds, regarding players we are led to believe that when a players comes on loan if we are happy and the player is happy they will sign for the club. All 3 clubs are a shop window for the pozzo's as this is how they make money, they find young promising players, sign them with the view to making a heathly profits in the future. They loan out loads of players to other clubs not just to us or Granada.


So they will use Watford to drain money out of the club then, as they already own the players.



Watford wont pay for the players though, we will pay the wages and if sold Pozzo's get the money which they invest into all 3 clubs.


If you do that in the Premier League it will be looked into. There haven't been many cases of the FA investigating 3rd party ownership, simply because it doesn't really happen here. But there are rules against it. I am sure your owners understand this already and will probably have some scheme to get around it.


I believe each club is owed by a different family member, not sure if this would acceptable though.



I for one would say a massive well done to Watford, i like Watford, they always hated the Jacks, back in the 80,s as they had a big rivalry with them based on football terms, i hope Watford come up just behind us, well done, good club :ayatollah: :old: :ayatollah:

Re: If Watford are promoted to the best league in the World.

Wed Feb 27, 2013 7:01 pm

EJ83 wrote:Briggsy, at least you'll go up playing in your traditional colours.... love the way you're playing football, you're going about your business the right way, looking forward to what should be a cracking game down in Swansea next season.

why dont you fxxk off to your own board nothing mentioned about you wankers in this thread

Re: If Watford are promoted to the best league in the World.

Wed Feb 27, 2013 7:04 pm

martin8422 wrote:
EJ83 wrote:Briggsy, at least you'll go up playing in your traditional colours.... love the way you're playing football, you're going about your business the right way, looking forward to what should be a cracking game down in Swansea next season.

why dont you fxxk off to your own board nothing mentioned about you wankers in this thread

Not you Briggsy the jack tw*t BJ83

Re: If Watford are promoted to the best league in the World.

Wed Feb 27, 2013 7:17 pm

martin8422 wrote:
martin8422 wrote:
EJ83 wrote:Briggsy, at least you'll go up playing in your traditional colours.... love the way you're playing football, you're going about your business the right way, looking forward to what should be a cracking game down in Swansea next season.

why dont you fxxk off to your own board nothing mentioned about you wankers in this thread

Not you Briggsy the jack tw*t BJ83


I gathered that by the end of it!!

Re: If Watford are promoted to the best league in the World.

Wed Feb 27, 2013 7:40 pm

Leytonstoneblue wrote:what does that say about the state of football in this country? They will have achieved it with a team made up of loan players, so the players don't actually belong to them and possibly one of the worst grounds in the league, as its had one stand closed, unfit for use! for the last 4 years! I don't want to be grudge any club achieving their dream, but surely there has to be certain standards that should be complied with?
With the huge riches that come with promotion to the Premiership, these current owners of Watford, could pull off one of the strokes of the decade. Spend very little money, not even on infrastructure and get £90-£160 million and leave Watford back in the shite! They stand to lose very little, at least in our case VT has committed huge amounts of money so far, so can't exactly walk away, when he wants. The more I think about it, the more that I feel the football league have yet again dropped a massive bollock. Will they never learn!


Who gives a f**k where Cardiff City, let's concentrate on ourselves :old:

Re: If Watford are promoted to the best league in the World.

Thu Feb 28, 2013 6:48 pm

cakey-8t7 wrote:
Briggsy wrote:Stop reading the papers regarding our owners, they have been in football for 25 years and spend millions on scouting, they are very good at what they do. Yes we have to many loans in the club but its working with a good mix of our academy. How much have you spent over the last few years? How much is your debt? How much is Bellamy costing per game etc?

If you honestly think the Pozzo,s will collect the premiership money and run your totally wrong, but if they did we would not be left millions in debt. Truthfully I was worried at the start but now loving the footie we are playing.

Good luck for rest of the season


Loaning a shit load of players from udinese and granada isn't a million pounds worth of scouting you tool lol your owner owns these clubs! I believe every team deserves credit where it's due for getting promoted even the jack bastards but on this occasion if Watford went up I think it would be unfair and they don't deserve it, but hey cant blame Zola or your owners really because they haven't broke any rules, it's the football leagues fault and the rules.


I'm not really sure it's worth trying to explain this to you, but Briggsy was saying that the owners of Watford, who also effectively own Udinese and Granada, spend approx €4 million a year on scouting. That's how they've unearthed over the last few seasons Christian Zapata, Gokhan Inler, Kwadwo asamoah and Alexis Sanchez, and sold them on for megabucks. This is what they do.

You tool.

lol.