Peter Swan Says Hull Can Catch Cardiff!

That's not the issue though.

If we lose 2 and they win 2 then they are above us.

Oh we are talking "ifs" now well "if" that happened, and "if" we win our game in hand we go back above them.

#3gamecushionnot2

Everything in the future is an "if".

However 5 points is always going to be 2 games worth of points no matter what stage of the season you are in. And 5 points is always going to be 2 games worth of points.

The topic is wether Hull can catch us which they cannot unless we lose THREE games more than them.

#3gamecushion

But if they win their next two and we lose our next two - they go above us. We don't get any extra points for having a game in hand and even if we draw it, it may not be enough to go back ahead.

Until that game in hand is played they are 2 games worth of points behind us.

Last edited by Paxman on Sat Feb 23, 2013 1:01 pm, edited 1 time in total.

AFTER closing the gap between themselves and leaders Cardiff to five points, Hull City fans will be wondering if the Bluebirds can be caught.

In my opinion, yes they can, and with the two sides meeting on the final day of the season at the KC Stadium, what a game it could be to end the season – a title decider, perhaps.

Cardiff do have a game in hand on the Tigers but there is no guarantee they will win

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The leaders haven’t really had a dodgy period, but after losing 2-0 at home to Brighton on Tuesday night, it could be the start of their shaky spell.

I believe Cardiff hit the woodwork four times, so it obviously wasn’t their night.

A lot will depend on how they respond to that defeat now, and Malky Mackay will hope they will get back on track with a win at Wolves, not an easy game by any stretch of the imagination.

City are certainly turning the heat up on the Welsh side and I can see Cardiff bottling it a bit in the next few games.

Of course, whilst looking up at Cardiff and hoping for a slip-up. City have to make sure they don’t slip themselves.

It doesn’t do any harm checking on the teams behind you in the table to see who is closing you down, and when City look over their shoulders, there are some good teams on their tails.

Despite their loss on Tuesday, Nigel Pearson’s Leicester will stay in the hunt, as will Crystal Palace, with Ian Holloway no stranger to promotion campaigns,

Then there is Watford, who have won five of their last seven, and look a real threat under Gianfranco Zola.

It means there is no margin for error, but I think the Tigers have shown by the way they played against Blackburn that they can match any side in the league.

City just need to focus on their own game, and if they do that, I think they can hold off the chasing pack and even overtake Cardiff.

I have said all season that I don’t think Cardiff are as good a team as their league position has suggested.

If they do struggle during the next few weeks, I expect City to take advantage and blow the title race open.

Anything said in there can be flipped over and used as a POSITIVE for CARDIFF CITY FC

Quote: "City (they meant Hull) just need to focus on their own game..." (Unquote)

Same goes for EVERY club in the hunt BUT Cardiff have the advantage that they can AFFORD the odd slip, whilst the others CANNOT!!

As for "not being as good a club as their league position suggests" I reckon the author of that piece is simply trying to destabilise us. We may not have played the fluent style we might have liked BUT we have been EFFECTIVE and that, in the promotion chase, is ALL that matters

We've obviously done that BETTER and more EFFECTIVELY than 23 other teams so far

But if they win their next two and we lose our next two - they go above us. We don't get any extra points for having a game in hand and even if we draw it, it may not be enough to go back ahead.

Until that game in hand is played they are 2 games worth of points behind us.

I answered this point 2 posts ago. Keep up.

#3gamecushion

But if they win their next two and we lose our next two - they go above us. We don't get any extra points for having a game in hand and even if we draw it, it may not be enough to go back ahead.

Until that game in hand is played they are 2 games worth of points behind us.

I answered this point 2 posts ago. Keep up.

#3gamecushion

There is nothing to answer. I stated a fact.

They are 2 games worth of points behind us.

But if they win their next two and we lose our next two - they go above us. We don't get any extra points for having a game in hand and even if we draw it, it may not be enough to go back ahead.

Until that game in hand is played they are 2 games worth of points behind us.

I answered this point 2 posts ago. Keep up.

#3gamecushion

There is nothing to answer. I stated a fact.

They are 2 games worth of points behind us.

But need us to lose 3 to finish above us. The most significant fact of all.

They need to be above us after 46 games not 35. Only way they can achieve that is we lose THREE more than them.

FACT

#3gamecushion

But if they win their next two and we lose our next two - they go above us. We don't get any extra points for having a game in hand and even if we draw it, it may not be enough to go back ahead.

Until that game in hand is played they are 2 games worth of points behind us.

I answered this point 2 posts ago. Keep up.

#3gamecushion

There is nothing to answer. I stated a fact.

They are 2 games worth of points behind us.

But need us to lose 3 to finish above us. The most significant fact of all.

They need to be above us after 46 games not 35. Only way they can achieve that is we lose THREE more than them.

FACT

#3gamecushion

That's not true though. Cardiff can lose TWO more and could still finish below Hull. In fact Cardiff can go unbeaten he ret of the campaign and still finish below hull. Youre wrong.

Not only that, the quickest way to catch us would be a TWO game swing with us losing the next two and hull winning the next two.

Please show me the mathmatics how we can drop points in just two games and finish below Hull at the end of the season and please dont say "we could draw 2" as thats obviously a probability in my 3 game cushion.

Cmon, prove to me how Hull can finish above us at end of season with us only failing to win 2 games less than them

Im all eyes.

#3gamecushion

Please show me the mathmatics how we can drop points in just two games and finish below Hull at the end of the season and please dont say "we could draw 2" as thats obviously an probability in my 3 game cushion.

Cmon, prove to me how Hull can finish above us at end of season with us only failing to win 2 games less than them

Im all eyes.

#3gamecushion

Cardiff draw the remaining 16 fixtures putting them on 83 points but losing none.

hull win 10 of the remaining 17 fixtures drawing 7 putting them on 99 points.

In order to overtake us however that can be done on just 2 games.

Erm that means Hull win TEN more games than us not 2?

Hull have 13 left by the way and Cardiff 14

Erm that means Hull win TEN more games than us not 2?

Hull have 13 left by the way and Cardiff 14

Games aren't won until they are played. You are taking the notion that both teams have 3 points in every game prior to them being played.

They are currently 5 points behind which can be achieved with 2 matches. The fact Cardiff have an extra game is irrelevant unless is won, and it isn't won until its played.

So therefore hull can catch Cardiff in TWO games.

What i don't understand is we are clear at the top and lost for the first time in 10 and are doomed to failure whilst Leicester who are 13 points behind us and who also lost on Tuesday are still in the hunt??


Best thing to do is win again tomorrow, go on another 10 game unbeaten run and shut them all up !!

Erm that means Hull win TEN more games than us not 2?

Hull have 13 left by the way and Cardiff 14

Games aren't won until they are played. You are taking the notion that both teams have 3 points in every game prior to them being played.

They are currently 5 points behind which can be achieved with 2 matches. The fact Cardiff have an extra game is irrelevant unless is won, and it isn't won until its played.

So therefore hull can catch Cardiff in TWO games.

But CANNOT finish above Cardiff at the end of the season unless Cardiff drop points in THREE games more than them.

This is about 46 games not 35, (or 49 / 50 the last time you failed to work out the points available )

Now either acknowledge its a 3 game cushion or prove my FACT that we have a 3 game cushion doesnt work.

Erm that means Hull win TEN more games than us not 2?

Hull have 13 left by the way and Cardiff 14

Games aren't won until they are played. You are taking the notion that both teams have 3 points in every game prior to them being played.

They are currently 5 points behind which can be achieved with 2 matches. The fact Cardiff have an extra game is irrelevant unless is won, and it isn't won until its played.

So therefore hull can catch Cardiff in TWO games.

But CANNOT finish above Cardiff at the end of the season unless Cardiff drop points in THREE games more than them.

This is about 46 games not 35, (or 49 / 50 the last time you failed to work out the points available )

Now either acknowledge its a 3 game cushion or prove my FACT that we have a 3 game cushion doesnt work.

But can be caught in TWO games.

Cardiff can then catch Hull with their game in hand but they have o win it or the game in hand is worthless. Until then City can be caught in TWO games.

Catch us in two temporarily but CANNOT finish above us at the end unless we drop points in THREE games. FACT.

No team won promotion for being 1 point ahead after 35 games as far as I am aware!

Its like two horses having a race, theres no point one catching the other with two fences to go if he cant catch him at the finshing line is there?

Now, I have some money to collect, work on some arithmetic whilst I am gone youve made a number of basic mathmatical errors on this thread. D minus for your efforts.

Catch us in two temporarily but CANNOT finish above us at the end unless we drop points in THREE games. FACT.

No team won promotion for being 1 point ahead after 35 games as far as I am aware!

Its like two horses having a race, theres no point one catching the other with two fences to go if he cant catch him at the finshing line is there?

Now, I have some money to collect, work on some arithmetic whilst I am gone youve made a number of basic mathmatical errors on this thread. D minus for your efforts.

Well no, catch us permenantly - depending on what we do with the game in hand.

Nobody is saying the season ends after 35 games, you have just made that up. Whether there is point in doing it is neither matter the FACT is, Hull can catch us and overtake is in TWO games. Fact.

We then must try to catch them and our game in hand may or may not help. But they can still overtake us in TWO matches time.

Taken a while but I think you finally got it in the end

Of course they can catch us up, only takes a bit of bad form on our part, been saying it for weeks to people who think we are already promoted, obviously we are looking good for promotion but its far from guaranteed still a lot of points to play for

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I think Polo won this argument.

You won't catch us if you keep on leaving 3 goals in the first ten mins of games!!!!

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I think Polo won this argument.

It wasnt an argument it was a statement of a fact. That hull could catch us in 2 games, that remains tobe a fact.

Last edited by Paxman on Sat Feb 23, 2013 3:15 pm, edited 1 time in total.

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I think Polo won this argument.

Pitnwasnt an argument it was a statement if a fact. That hull could catch us in 2 games, that remains tobe a fact.

Bolton 3 Hull 0 in 8 minutes take that !!

Bolton 3 up......sorry folks this thread is now Null and Void.

Bolton 3 up......sorry folks this thread is now Null and Void.

They are still 2 games worth of points behind Cardiff.

AFTER closing the gap between themselves and leaders Cardiff to five points, Hull City fans will be wondering if the Bluebirds can be caught.

In my opinion, yes they can, and with the two sides meeting on the final day of the season at the KC Stadium, what a game it could be to end the season – a title decider, perhaps.

Cardiff do have a game in hand on the Tigers but there is no guarantee they will win

Hull Aero ClubView Details
The leaders haven’t really had a dodgy period, but after losing 2-0 at home to Brighton on Tuesday night, it could be the start of their shaky spell.

I believe Cardiff hit the woodwork four times, so it obviously wasn’t their night.

A lot will depend on how they respond to that defeat now, and Malky Mackay will hope they will get back on track with a win at Wolves, not an easy game by any stretch of the imagination.

City are certainly turning the heat up on the Welsh side and I can see Cardiff bottling it a bit in the next few games.

Of course, whilst looking up at Cardiff and hoping for a slip-up. City have to make sure they don’t slip themselves.

It doesn’t do any harm checking on the teams behind you in the table to see who is closing you down, and when City look over their shoulders, there are some good teams on their tails.

Despite their loss on Tuesday, Nigel Pearson’s Leicester will stay in the hunt, as will Crystal Palace, with Ian Holloway no stranger to promotion campaigns,

Then there is Watford, who have won five of their last seven, and look a real threat under Gianfranco Zola.

It means there is no margin for error, but I think the Tigers have shown by the way they played against Blackburn that they can match any side in the league.

City just need to focus on their own game, and if they do that, I think they can hold off the chasing pack and even overtake Cardiff.

I have said all season that I don’t think Cardiff are as good a team as their league position has suggested.

If they do struggle during the next few weeks, I expect City to take advantage and blow the title race open.

Anything said in there can be flipped over and used as a POSITIVE for CARDIFF CITY FC

Quote: "City (they meant Hull) just need to focus on their own game..." (Unquote)

Same goes for EVERY club in the hunt BUT Cardiff have the advantage that they can AFFORD the odd slip, whilst the others CANNOT!!

As for "not being as good a club as their league position suggests" I reckon the author of that piece is simply trying to destabilise us. We may not have played the fluent style we might have liked BUT we have been EFFECTIVE and that, in the promotion chase, is ALL that matters

We've obviously done that BETTER and more EFFECTIVELY than 23 other teams so far

SUPERB!! 15 MINS AND HULL CITY 3-0 DOWN (with Pratley scoring too!)

If EVER a post was made to be more pointless (there's a pun there somewhere ) and ill-timed, this is it!

I rest my case

Make that a FOUR game cushion

Make that a FOUR game cushion

Make that a FOUR game cushion

It's still two games until the results if the games in hand are known. 5point behind.

Make that a FOUR game cushion

It's still two games until the results if the games in hand are known. 5point behind.

Pathetic and negative