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Bill Shankly "Shankly changed Liverpool's red shirts and white shorts to the now familiar all-red strip," writes Peter Seddon. "Legend has it that he asked Ron Yeats to try out the red shorts. When Yeats ran out into an empty Anfield to model the kit, Shankly said: 'Jesus Christ, son. You look bloody massive. You'll scare them to death.' And the kit was worn for the first time on 25 November 1964 in a European game against Anderlecht."

Malcolm Allison "Palace fans such as myself will remember well the quantum leap (or stumble) led by Allison at the start of the 1973-74 season," writes Phil Hawkins. "It was all change for club colours and playing strip, from claret and blue to Barcelona-inspired red and royal blue stripes, the Glaziers became the Eagles, a brand new badge – and sadly, at season's end, a brand new [Third] Division."

Jimmy Hill "On Hill's arrival, he brought in a change which would alter the face of the club for its entirety," report Coventry City on their website. "The new sky blue kit at the time gained widespread approval from the crowd and critics alike. It was described as 'smart' and 'continental-like' and it had the advantage of rarely clashing with the opposition's colours."

Mike Summerbee "Summerbee became Stockport's player-manager in the summer of 1979 and promptly changed Stockport's kit to replicate the Argentina kit in an attempt to get the team playing like World Cup winners," writes Phil Rhodes. "We still constantly finished near the bottom of the Fourth Division. This stayed in place until March 1982 when the outbreak of the Falklands war forced a rapid alteration of the kit. We even had to ask the Football League if we could change our registered colours midway through the season."

John Bond "Back in 1971, the Bournemouth manager is said to have been the person behind the adoption of the red and black stripes for the Cherries kit for the 1971-72 season in homage to Milan," writes Simon Melville.

Graham Taylor "I'm sure that many other Watford fans will write in to tell you this, but Watford's traditional colours of gold and black were changed by Taylor, whose lucky colour is red," writes GH30. "He moved from Lincoln City, who play in red and white, and requested that red be included in the club's colours. Watford have played in yellow, red and black ever since."

I said 'recent' seasons not 50+ years ago!!!! The premier league was only set-up in the early 90's FFS!!! So in fact NO premier league team has changed their colours.FACT!!!![/quote]
we are not in the premier league fact! so still there ont be a colour change fact ! [/quote]

You were the first to mention fans of the premier league hense why I questioned you on it. FFS you cant remember what you have already written!!!

Go away you are going to kill my club unbelievable this is for the original post

The Cardiff City that we know and love is being killed bit by bit already, if we do nothing it will be unrecognisable in a few short seasons.

times changed, as the club gets bigger things have to change ! ask fans of any club who are in the premier league who have come up through the divisions ,not saying its for the better but change has to happen

what premier league club has changed its kit and name in recent seasons then..?

did i mention change of kits ?????????? NO ! "The Cardiff City that we know and love is being killed bit by bit " im saying most clubs fans through out the league are thinking of this ? due to a number of factors ,money is the biggest factor ! change is happening in all clubs up and down the leagues !

Yes change can happen but doing it behind closed doors and keep things a sercet until the season tickets have been sold is nothing but a disgrace. Many people were welcoming the change fromthe days of division 4 and so on but then the changes like colour when completely behind the backs fans. Remember that photo shoot with the new kits happened in April of last year!!!

They have put their money where there mouth is ,the majority of fans have excepted the kit and badge change some people love it ,its happened now ,its not going to change unless they leave but its sounds like there in it for the long hall ,all the moaning and throwing toys out of the pram is not going to make a difference

They have put their money where there mouth is ,the majority of fans have excepted the kit and badge change some people love it ,its happened now ,its not going to change unless they leave but its sounds like there in it for the long hall ,all the moaning and throwing toys out of the pram is not going to make a difference

No they haven't. They have borrowed money to the business which is a completely different thing.

They have put their money where there mouth is ,the majority of fans have excepted the kit and badge change some people love it ,its happened now ,its not going to change unless they leave but its sounds like there in it for the long hall ,all the moaning and throwing toys out of the pram is not going to make a difference

No they haven't. They have borrowed money to the business which is a completely different thing.

do you understand they way it works ????? the same as chelsea ,man utd ,man city ,most clubs in the premier league ? they are all loans from there owners ,did we have this money before ? NO So they have invested money FACT ! , I think its more of a racists stance against them from you as they are not british !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Why does it have to be a premier league team, and why does it need to be so recent? why the bullshit parameters

because I was replying to a post which stated 'Premier League teams'!!!! FFS before having a pop can you follow the conversation properly!!!

If you learn to read, he says any premier league club that came up through the divisions. How else would one be able to acknowledge teams and provide examples if they have been in the PL for a few years without using examples from the years before they got there.

Take another one of those prescription pills, and dribble on your chest. lunatic.

Seriously its you lot constantly talking about this and the in house arguing that is bringing the club down.

Your grown men, get over it!

They have put their money where there mouth is ,the majority of fans have excepted the kit and badge change some people love it ,its happened now ,its not going to change unless they leave but its sounds like there in it for the long hall ,all the moaning and throwing toys out of the pram is not going to make a difference

No they haven't. They have borrowed money to the business which is a completely different thing.

do you understand they way it works ????? the same as chelsea ,man utd ,man city ,most clubs in the premier league ? they are all loans from there owners ,did we have this money before ? NO So they have invested money FACT ! , I think its more of a racists stance against them from you as they are not british !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Of course I know how it works and now you are changing your stance now. Since when has 'putting their money where their mouth is' means investing ? Investing is a term for gamble and hopefully getting a return on your money!!!!

As for your anti-British remark then I would welcome anyone who would respect the culture and history of the club rather than changing everything and anything because they can

Go away you are going to kill my club unbelievable this is for the original post

The Cardiff City that we know and love is being killed bit by bit already, if we do nothing it will be unrecognisable in a few short seasons.

times changed, as the club gets bigger things have to change ! ask fans of any club who are in the premier league who have come up through the divisions ,not saying its for the better but change has to happen

what premier league club has changed its kit and name in recent seasons then..?

Bill Shankly "Shankly changed Liverpool's red shirts and white shorts to the now familiar all-red strip," writes Peter Seddon. "Legend has it that he asked Ron Yeats to try out the red shorts. When Yeats ran out into an empty Anfield to model the kit, Shankly said: 'Jesus Christ, son. You look bloody massive. You'll scare them to death.' And the kit was worn for the first time on 25 November 1964 in a European game against Anderlecht."

[b]A change of shorts! We changed to an all blue kit about 10 seasons ago. Liverpool are red and the red shorts just added more red to their kit, not really a change is it!

Malcolm Allison "Palace fans such as myself will remember well the quantum leap (or stumble) led by Allison at the start of the 1973-74 season," writes Phil Hawkins. "It was all change for club colours and playing strip, from claret and blue to Barcelona-inspired red and royal blue stripes, the Glaziers became the Eagles, a brand new badge – and sadly, at season's end, a brand new [Third] Division."

So they change from claret and blue to red and blue with a different style. Again, only a slight alteration, they didn't completely change the colour of their shirt like we have.

Jimmy Hill "On Hill's arrival, he brought in a change which would alter the face of the club for its entirety," report Coventry City on their website. "The new sky blue kit at the time gained widespread approval from the crowd and critics alike. It was described as 'smart' and 'continental-like' and it had the advantage of rarely clashing with the opposition's colours."

Coventry have always worn sky blue, although in their early seasons they kept switching from sky blue to dark blue. But sky blue has always been prominent in their kits. You say the change (although it's hardly a change) gained widespread approval. Our current change has not got widespread approval.

Mike Summerbee "Summerbee became Stockport's player-manager in the summer of 1979 and promptly changed Stockport's kit to replicate the Argentina kit in an attempt to get the team playing like World Cup winners," writes Phil Rhodes. "We still constantly finished near the bottom of the Fourth Division. This stayed in place until March 1982 when the outbreak of the Falklands war forced a rapid alteration of the kit. We even had to ask the Football League if we could change our registered colours midway through the season."

Stockport changed from blue shirts and white shorts to the Argentina like blue and white stripes, but the kit was altered again after the Falklands, so it didn't last long. But again, although a different style, this isn't a radical change like ours as they didn't change their colours..

John Bond "Back in 1971, the Bournemouth manager is said to have been the person behind the adoption of the red and black stripes for the Cherries kit for the 1971-72 season in homage to Milan," writes Simon Melville.

Since being officially known as AFC Bournemouth (they were originally formed as Boscombe), they have worn nothing but red, white and black. Even in 2000, they still wore white shorts and all the way back in 1923, they wore black shorts and socks with their red and white stripes. So although the AC Milan look was a change of style, it wasn't a radical change of colours.

Graham Taylor "I'm sure that many other Watford fans will write in to tell you this, but Watford's traditional colours of gold and black were changed by Taylor, whose lucky colour is red," writes GH30. "He moved from Lincoln City, who play in red and white, and requested that red be included in the club's colours. Watford have played in yellow, red and black ever since."

Again, the change from gold and black to yellow and black is hardly a radical change. The colours look very much alike and the added red trim is no different to when we added a bit of yellow onto our blue and white kit.

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None of the examples you have listed have been a radical changes of colour. The only other club to radically change their kit and colours over the past 50 years is Leeds.

He didn't ask for radical colour change examples, he asked for examples of colour change. which I provided.

He didn't ask for radical colour change examples, he asked for examples of colour change. which I provided.

But only Crystal Palace and Watford in your example have slightly changed their colours. Your other examples have only involved changes to the style and design of their kits only, but no actual colour change. Look at the historical football kits for all your examples if you don't believe me.

He didn't ask for radical colour change examples, he asked for examples of colour change. which I provided.

But only Crystal Palace and Watford in your example have slightly changed their colours. Your other examples have only involved changes to the style and design of their kits only, but no actual colour change. Look at the historical football kits for all your examples if you don't believe me.

Why would I want to go on historical football kits to look at examples.
Liverpool changed white shorts..to red. a colour change.
Stockport changed to match argentinas kit.

you're boring and picking holes in a simplistic answer to a simplistic question.

We are cardiff city football club the bluebirds, we will not support you

Go away you are going to kill my club unbelievable this is for the original post

The Cardiff City that we know and love is being killed bit by bit already, if we do nothing it will be unrecognisable in a few short seasons.

times changed, as the club gets bigger things have to change ! ask fans of any club who are in the premier league who have come up through the divisions ,not saying its for the better but change has to happen

what premier league club has changed its kit and name in recent seasons then..?

They ain't changed the name so stop talking shit

I was one of the few who got my season ticket refunded after the colour change and have not stepped foot inside the stadium since but to support/build a new club, whoever it is run by and whatever they represent is every bit as ludicrous as calling a team that play in red 'the bluebirds' in my opinion.

Have you decided whose jumper you'll use for your goal posts?

He didn't ask for radical colour change examples, he asked for examples of colour change. which I provided.

But only Crystal Palace and Watford in your example have slightly changed their colours. Your other examples have only involved changes to the style and design of their kits only, but no actual colour change. Look at the historical football kits for all your examples if you don't believe me.

Why would I want to go on historical football kits to look at examples.
Liverpool changed white shorts..to red. a colour change.
Stockport changed to match argentinas kit.

you're boring and picking holes in a simplistic answer to a simplistic question.

I'm not picking holes. You've said in all your examples that they were colour changes, but I'm saying only Palace and Watford have slightly changed their colours, which the historical football kits site shows. I looked them all up because I was interested to see if you was correct. You can't really count Liverpool's change of shorts surely? Liverpool have always been red and the change of their shorts to make them all red isn't really change of colour.

Sounds good. Lets see how you progress. I'm a member of FC United of Manchester, purely because I am passionate about a club literally being 'the people's' club.

If there were only two teams left on the planet, one associated with Adam Brown and the other Swansea City. I'd choose Swansea City.

Anything Brownie is involved in, will end in failure and problems, just like his business ventures and political career. Sad sad man, once again just yearning for more attention.

Go away you are going to kill my club unbelievable this is for the original post

The Cardiff City that we know and love is being killed bit by bit already, if we do nothing it will be unrecognisable in a few short seasons.

times changed, as the club gets bigger things have to change ! ask fans of any club who are in the premier league who have come up through the divisions ,not saying its for the better but change has to happen

what premier league club has changed its kit and name in recent seasons then..?

NONE, so far as I am aware (certainly where FIRST TEAM colours are concerned)

BUT, ironically, Cardiff City wouldn't be the FIRST either...their kit would ALREADY be RED from their Championship days

Just pointing out, Mr Pedantic

If there were only two teams left on the planet, one associated with Adam Brown and the other Swansea City. I'd choose Swansea City.

Anything Brownie is involved in, will end in failure and problems, just like his business ventures and political career. Sad sad man, once again just yearning for more attention.

He could change his user name to 'Mr Ian Angry Beale'

The fans who support this project are grown up intelligent people who were not forced to join the project but did so at their own free will,I would like to say Tan drove them to this but I would be wrong he just loaded the gun the fans fired the bullets,you lot should have stood tall Instead of sympathising or supporting your fellow supporter you threatened them and drove them away,nobody took them away you slandered them.We have just under 10 members an hour joining and that is just fb,the flyers and promotion will be out next week and we hope to more than double the numbers.This group is organised and well informed,We are in dialogue with other clubs who are familiar with our situation and they are advising us on our immediate future,we are currently discussing local and national investment along with sponsorship and potential coaches and backroom staff.We will achieve our goals I promise you this and I will post regular updates if you wish.Against the rebrand pm me and join up,everyone is welcome.

Good luck to you with this think your a tw*t and not a true city fan so good riddance to you and tak e all the other plastic city fans with you. Wasting your time and you know it you'll be back watching us flying high in the prem when you lets face fucked up new team fail. Support a fake cards if city called fc Cardiff or support the real Cardiff city.
Think about it you knob:):)

The fans who support this project are grown up intelligent people who were not forced to join the project but did so at their own free will,I would like to say Tan drove them to this but I would be wrong he just loaded the gun the fans fired the bullets,you lot should have stood tall Instead of sympathising or supporting your fellow supporter you threatened them and drove them away,nobody took them away you slandered them.We have just under 10 members an hour joining and that is just fb,the flyers and promotion will be out next week and we hope to more than double the numbers.This group is organised and well informed,We are in dialogue with other clubs who are familiar with our situation and they are advising us on our immediate future,we are currently discussing local and national investment along with sponsorship and potential coaches and backroom staff.We will achieve our goals I promise you this and I will post regular updates if you wish.Against the rebrand pm me and join up,everyone is welcome.

Good luck to you with this think your a tw*t and not a true city fan so good riddance to you and tak e all the other plastic city fans with you. Wasting your time and you know it you'll be back watching us flying high in the prem when you lets face fucked up new team fail. Support a fake cards if city called fc Cardiff or support the real Cardiff city.
Think about it you knob:):)

What an absolute c**t.

Oh joe please leave me alone you nasty bully. I now concur with your beliefs now that you so big string and hard that you insult me as a faceless person hidden behind a computer screen.
Lol you need to chill out dude.
Lmao pathetic

Would be a non starter.

Ambitious but very stupid idea.

Oh joe please leave me alone you nasty bully. I now concur with your beliefs now that you so big string and hard that you insult me as a faceless person hidden behind a computer screen.
Lol you need to chill out dude.
Lmao pathetic

Hang on a sec what is this and how have mods allowed a wanna me on here bluebird77 i mean wtf is this, mods whats the f*cking crack like

Have you decided whose jumper you'll use for your goal posts?

Thats a bit harsh. I think they might be able to get enough money together for a few cones

If there were only two teams left on the planet, one associated with Adam Brown and the other Swansea City. I'd choose Swansea City.

Anything Brownie is involved in, will end in failure and problems, just like his business ventures and political career. Sad sad man, once again just yearning for more attention.

You know me both inside and out. You aren't my wife are you..? or maybe my accountant..? or more than likely a jealous individual who doesn't know me professionally and grasping at the straws of what others say on here. Personally I'd go for the later.

Browsing you previous directorships and company history on Companies House suggests you have not had much business success, plus your career in politics was something of a disaster. Of course every piece of negative press about about you is totally unfair and unfounded.

I don't need to listen to what other posters think of you, ther'e's more than enough in the public domain, to tell me everything i need to know about your fragile character, and issues.

Come back to my therapy thread for help.

Browsing you previous directorships and company history on Companies House suggests you have not had much business success, plus your career in politics was something of a disaster. Of course every piece of negative press about about you is totally unfair and unfounded.

I don't need to listen to what other posters think of you, ther'e's more than enough in the public domain, to tell me everything i need to know about your fragile character, and issues.

Come back to my therapy thread for help.

you know what 'suggesting' means then doesn't it. That you haven't a clue about my business activities especially when companies house don't hold the records for my overseas business activities but I suppose you won't know what I mean by that.

Also my career in politics made me over £50k richer so is that really 'something of a disaster' as you put it..?

You comments clearly show that you don't have a clue about me or my professional life so take your suggestions elsewhere.

Once again your response has reinforced exactly what I knew already. You have given more information about yourself than a normal person would, to try and inflate your feeling of self worth. Are you trying to persuade yourself or me that you are successful businessman? Why do you feel the need to justify yourself so much?

The fact that you rate your success in political terms by how much money you made, rather than whether you made any positive contribution, sums you up to a tee.

Overseas business ventures now is i? Timeshare salesman in Tenerife to pay for your summer holidays is it? Well I suppose it's easier to make things up that you know people can't disprove. It's not so easy to hide failure in UK business though is it. Do you reckon your latest recruitment firm will last longer than the last two?

Keep your posts coming Adam. They are most enlightening and I'm building up a comprehensive picture of the man that is Adam Brown.