" 40 YEARS OF LOVING THIS CLUB "

The hurtful thing for me was seeing chaps I seen in Rochdale 20 years ago embracing the red.

Seen one guy from the rhondda who I know has been every shit part of the country, proudly donning his red shirt and scarf.

I looked at him in disbelief. I just thought "Is this what its come to?"

Feeling your pain Annis, Tuesday was too much.

That was not Cardiff City as I know it.

So what have you done or what are you going to do about it ?

Whay can I do you f*cking prick?

I havent got 100m unfortunately

Annis I feel exactly the same, and when the Bluebird goes in the summer I will feel totally awful, but our new breed of Liverpool look a likes won't miss a beat over the destruction of our BLUEBIRD

Nothing can be done.

Protests or anything.. the only thing that could be done is a change in the badge which seems realistic.

VT won't change it back now or anytime soon.

Been watching the bluebirds for over 55 years. Seen numerous relegation battles and celebrated when we stayed up. Seen promotion from the lower divisions and woken up with a fat head

This year should have been the best watching the best players we have put together. Blue or Red we have a manager who feels for both sides of the argument. If we do go up I feel the debate over the colours will tarnish the efforts of the team end of story

The hurtful thing for me was seeing chaps I seen in Rochdale 20 years ago embracing the red.

Seen one guy from the rhondda who I know has been every shit part of the country, proudly donning his red shirt and scarf.

I looked at him in disbelief. I just thought "Is this what its come to?"

He has his reasons then. Perhaps it was going to every shit part of the country that makes him think the change is worth it? Perhaps he has bigger problems is his life? Inside he could be gutted but trying to give it a chance? Who knows, but it's an individual choice and who are we to judge him?

Vincent Tan won't be at this football club forever, One day we'll be back in blue. Let's just enjoy the usual 'CCFC Rollercoaster'

Agree with this. This forum has turned into a complete whinge-fest, with the same thread being created time and time again. Life is full of choices, seems people have to make another one now. You either keep your allegiance to the club that is Cardiff City regardless of colour, players, managers, stadia etc or you cling to what you know and the traditions your time as a fan brings with it. Each to their own and nobody has the right to say another is wrong, but this self pitying is becoming pathetic.

City my arse. Its turned into Liverdiff.

Were we chelsdiff before then? The red issue is what it is but can't see what trying to link it to other teams achieves unless the Malaysians come out and state that it is the reason behind the change.

No we were Cardiff City the BLUEbirds before.
We are just a cheap scouse imitation now.
In retaliation to being shit we have retaliated to the large armchair scouse/manc brigade in south wales by mocking them as plastics. Our team was shit but at least we were not joking supporters.

Quite ironic then that we have become a plastic clone of Liverpool / Man U.

The hurtful thing for me was seeing chaps I seen in Rochdale 20 years ago embracing the red.

Seen one guy from the rhondda who I know has been every shit part of the country, proudly donning his red shirt and scarf.

I looked at him in disbelief. I just thought "Is this what its come to?"

So hes not allowed to enjoy his day because a few others aint?
Each to their own

The hurtful thing for me was seeing chaps I seen in Rochdale 20 years ago embracing the red.

Seen one guy from the rhondda who I know has been every shit part of the country, proudly donning his red shirt and scarf.

I looked at him in disbelief. I just thought "Is this what its come to?"

He has his reasons then. Perhaps it was going to every shit part of the country that makes him think the change is worth it? Perhaps he has bigger problems is his life? Inside he could be gutted but trying to give it a chance? Who knows, but it's an individual choice and who are we to judge him?

Spare us the therapist bollocks please

The hurtful thing for me was seeing chaps I seen in Rochdale 20 years ago embracing the red.

Seen one guy from the rhondda who I know has been every shit part of the country, proudly donning his red shirt and scarf.

I looked at him in disbelief. I just thought "Is this what its come to?"

So hes not allowed to enjoy his day because a few others aint?
Each to their own

Where did I say he couldnt enjoy his day?

The hurtful thing for me was seeing chaps I seen in Rochdale 20 years ago embracing the red.

Seen one guy from the rhondda who I know has been every shit part of the country, proudly donning his red shirt and scarf.

I looked at him in disbelief. I just thought "Is this what its come to?"

He has his reasons then. Perhaps it was going to every shit part of the country that makes him think the change is worth it? Perhaps he has bigger problems is his life? Inside he could be gutted but trying to give it a chance? Who knows, but it's an individual choice and who are we to judge him?

Spare us the therapist bollocks please

IThe point is nobody put a gun to his head so he has his reasons. I'm no therapist, but it's not rocket science either.

I'm exactly the same, a 'team' rebrand could be tolerated to an extent (survival etc), but not a 'fans' rebrand. People say its just a colour and the name is still Cardiff City (except for the scarfs), so why do we feel like this on the verge of a 50 year wait to the big time? f*cking sickening.

I really struggle to see how people who have racked up years down the City are comfortable with whats happening and are able to relate to it? It's nowhere near the same club - no edge, no atmosphere, hardly any passion from the stands anymore, the team looks different, the badge is different etc etc. It's not US going up, it's a new fake club and the whole of Britain are watching in hysterics over what we've become - How can anyone take pride in this I really can't understand. The new club in its current guise, cultural approach & dismissal of our history does not represent me, the areas we are from or any of the fans who have attended games consistently over the last I dont know how many years. We're proud people, proud of our identities, proud of our reputation, what the f**k has happened to everyone? A sniff of success and everyone is willing to sacrifice everything that has made us. All just IMO of course.

All boils down to what you value, simple as. Anyone who wears red or one of those scarfs had a choice and cant argue any different. I'm not slagging anyone off here or trying to have a pop, that is not my intention, however anyone who choose to wear red etc does not value our history/identity, they cant do otherwise they wouldnt even think about wearing any of that shite. And I dont accept this new chapter and chamge bollocks either - yes there are reasons we could tolerate the team playing in a different colour but not our fans adopting the colour also. The next few weeks on the Cardiff (City) fromt will be interesting to say the least.

100% ^^

The hurtful thing for me was seeing chaps I seen in Rochdale 20 years ago embracing the red.

Seen one guy from the rhondda who I know has been every shit part of the country, proudly donning his red shirt and scarf.

I looked at him in disbelief. I just thought "Is this what its come to?"

He has his reasons then. Perhaps it was going to every shit part of the country that makes him think the change is worth it? Perhaps he has bigger problems is his life? Inside he could be gutted but trying to give it a chance? Who knows, but it's an individual choice and who are we to judge him?

Spare us the therapist bollocks please

IThe point is nobody put a gun to his head so he has his reasons. I'm no therapist, but it's not rocket science either.

Who said anyone put a gun to his head?

Vincent Tan won't be at this football club forever, One day we'll be back in blue. Let's just enjoy the usual 'CCFC Rollercoaster'

Agree with this. This forum has turned into a complete whinge-fest, with the same thread being created time and time again. Life is full of choices, seems people have to make another one now. You either keep your allegiance to the club that is Cardiff City regardless of colour, players, managers, stadia etc or you cling to what you know and the traditions your time as a fan brings with it. Each to their own and nobody has the right to say another is wrong, but this self pitying is becoming pathetic.

City my arse. Its turned into Liverdiff.

Were we chelsdiff before then? The red issue is what it is but can't see what trying to link it to other teams achieves unless the Malaysians come out and state that it is the reason behind the change.

No we were Cardiff City the BLUEbirds before.
We are just a cheap scouse imitation now.
In retaliation to being shit we have retaliated to the large armchair scouse/manc brigade in south wales by mocking them as plastics. Our team was shit but at least we were not joking supporters.

Quite ironic then that we have become a plastic clone of Liverpool / Man U.

If VT stated we play in red to emulate LFC or MUFC then you'd have a point. Until then it's paranoia

We even fall out of love with our nearest dearest's at times never to rekindle that love that brought us together a time ago but sadly it contributes to the rich tapestry of life, have to say it will be sad to see the old brigade of City fans leaving the terraces but we must now look to a fresh and modern future with our new Stadium and Premiership football.

The hurtful thing for me was seeing chaps I seen in Rochdale 20 years ago embracing the red.

Seen one guy from the rhondda who I know has been every shit part of the country, proudly donning his red shirt and scarf.

I looked at him in disbelief. I just thought "Is this what its come to?"

So hes not allowed to enjoy his day because a few others aint?
Each to their own

Where did I say he couldnt enjoy his day?

Why look at him in disbelief? Maybe hes happy wearing red and happy attending games.

The hurtful thing for me was seeing chaps I seen in Rochdale 20 years ago embracing the red.

Seen one guy from the rhondda who I know has been every shit part of the country, proudly donning his red shirt and scarf.

I looked at him in disbelief. I just thought "Is this what its come to?"

He has his reasons then. Perhaps it was going to every shit part of the country that makes him think the change is worth it? Perhaps he has bigger problems is his life? Inside he could be gutted but trying to give it a chance? Who knows, but it's an individual choice and who are we to judge him?

Spare us the therapist bollocks please

IThe point is nobody put a gun to his head so he has his reasons. I'm no therapist, but it's not rocket science either.

Who said anyone put a gun to his head?

It's called a figure of speech. Trying to make the point that this bloke you saw has his reasons for wearing the red stuff despite his history of watching the City

The hurtful thing for me was seeing chaps I seen in Rochdale 20 years ago embracing the red.

Seen one guy from the rhondda who I know has been every shit part of the country, proudly donning his red shirt and scarf.

I looked at him in disbelief. I just thought "Is this what its come to?"

So hes not allowed to enjoy his day because a few others aint?
Each to their own

Where did I say he couldnt enjoy his day?

Why look at him in disbelief? Maybe hes happy wearing red and happy attending games.

So I didnt say that he couldnt enjoy his day?

Thanks for clearing that up.

The hurtful thing for me was seeing chaps I seen in Rochdale 20 years ago embracing the red.

Seen one guy from the rhondda who I know has been every shit part of the country, proudly donning his red shirt and scarf.

I looked at him in disbelief. I just thought "Is this what its come to?"

He has his reasons then. Perhaps it was going to every shit part of the country that makes him think the change is worth it? Perhaps he has bigger problems is his life? Inside he could be gutted but trying to give it a chance? Who knows, but it's an individual choice and who are we to judge him?

Spare us the therapist bollocks please

IThe point is nobody put a gun to his head so he has his reasons. I'm no therapist, but it's not rocket science either.

Who said anyone put a gun to his head?

So nobody put a gun to his head.

Thanks for clearing that up.
It's called a figure of speech. Trying to make the point that this bloke you saw has his reasons for wearing the red stuff despite his history of watching the City

The hurtful thing for me was seeing chaps I seen in Rochdale 20 years ago embracing the red.

Seen one guy from the rhondda who I know has been every shit part of the country, proudly donning his red shirt and scarf.

I looked at him in disbelief. I just thought "Is this what its come to?"

He has his reasons then. Perhaps it was going to every shit part of the country that makes him think the change is worth it? Perhaps he has bigger problems is his life? Inside he could be gutted but trying to give it a chance? Who knows, but it's an individual choice and who are we to judge him?

IThe point is nobody put a gun to his head so he has his reasons. I'm no therapist, but it's not rocket science either.

Who said anyone put a gun to his head?

So nobody put a gun to his head.

It's called a figure of speech. Trying to make the point that this bloke you saw has his reasons for wearing the red stuff despite his history of watching the City

Maybe, you know him so why not ask him next time if you can get past your disbelief

Who said I cant get past it??

The truth is, Tuesday night finally broke me, it hurt so much to see our fans looking like fake Liverpool and Man Utd fans, it was bad enough what Tan had done to our identity, but now our so called fans, embraced it and in fact loved it and forgot who we really are Cardiff City BLUE & THE BLUEBIRDS not Red Birds(Which is going at the end of this season). In over 40 years of following Cardiff seeing that was worse than any relegation or the 9 years we spent in the 4th Division, where I never missed a home or away game.

I am for the first time really starting to lose my love for the club Ive loved for over 40 years and have shed many a tear for, yet loved every moment of it deep down, but now I am hurting so bad its no enjoyment anymore.

Where do we really go from here, in my heart they are taking MY CARDIFF AWAY.

Right on the money I have felt like this from game 1 .I have been to every home game and its no better for me Tuesday I wore my blue and had my photo in the echo in blue.I was proud to wear blue but then I saw the amount of red around and it gutted me big time.

All you can do Annis is keep going you have given your heart and soul to this club and you should stick in there otherwise your years of support will be in vain .Its hard but I aint leaving my club .

Who said I cant get past it??

Not me, I believe in you

When I walked away from the game on tuesday, I felt I was almost alone in a crowd of 23,000, it felt surreal, almost like an out of body experience.

I wasn't angry, just really really disappointed looking around and seeing all those red scarves was just a heartbreaking experience.

But what has given me real heart is the response on the two main message boards, the fact that there are many fans that feel exactly the same as me. The disappointment of tuesday turned to anger at what this man has done to OUR club, because it is OUR club not HIS club. I fully understand why some have walked away, I was close myself the othe ohter night but I really believe that we can unite and do something about this, how I'm not sure but there have already been suggestions this week, and if we can unite we can achieve what we all want, which is OUR clubs identity back!

But to do this we need a focal point, somewhere where we can all put any differences aside to unite and fight for OUR club.

I would love Keep Cardiff Blue to be used as a focal point where every right minded City fan can unite and express what we feel.

Completely agree with you Annis.

But I don't care what time in the season it is, we need to stand up to the rebrand and protest. Some people are saying "wait til the end of the season", but if we get promoted the red will be worn more and more by the plastics who turn up for the good times. I know you and a lot of others are saying that we should've stood up to it a long time ago, and I agree, but it's never too late to try.

I do want this club to succeed, but our traditions come first for me. It makes me sick that some foreigner has taken that away from us because he likes the colour red and he doesn't care what we the fans think. We shouldn't go out without a fight.

I am not fully bothered about what time of the season it is. Just you won't be heard unless you do it towards the end of the season..

If the media get involved then anything can be heard. The only time I believe we shouldn't protest is if it's the day we could be promoted.

When I walked away from the game on tuesday, I felt I was almost alone in a crowd of 23,000, it felt surreal, almost like an out of body experience.

I wasn't angry, just really really disappointed looking around and seeing all those red scarves was just a heartbreaking experience.

But what has given me real heart is the response on the two main message boards, the fact that there are many fans that feel exactly the same as me. The disappointment of tuesday turned to anger at what this man has done to OUR club, because it is OUR club not HIS club. I fully understand why some have walked away, I was close myself the othe ohter night but I really believe that we can unite and do something about this, how I'm not sure but there have already been suggestions this week, and if we can unite we can achieve what we all want, which is OUR clubs identity back!

But to do this we need a focal point, somewhere where we can all put any differences aside to unite and fight for OUR club.

I would love Keep Cardiff Blue to be used as a focal point where every right minded City fan can unite and express what we feel.

Good post we need a leader in all this someone to guide us Annis who feels like us should fight for it and not give in .Good post but we need leadership so who ?

annis, its over

you should walk away, its painful but its better than torturing yourself like this

Deep down you will never give up!!! I will never give up.

The club had to evolve we all know that deep down

Rubbish, no one else has. Stop justifying it

The truth is, Tuesday night finally broke me, it hurt so much to see our fans looking like fake Liverpool and Man Utd fans, it was bad enough what Tan had done to our identity, but now our so called fans, embraced it and in fact loved it and forgot who we really are Cardiff City BLUE & THE BLUEBIRDS not Red Birds(Which is going at the end of this season). In over 40 years of following Cardiff seeing that was worse than any relegation or the 9 years we spent in the 4th Division, where I never missed a home or away game.

I am for the first time really starting to lose my love for the club Ive loved for over 40 years and have shed many a tear for, yet loved every moment of it deep down, but now I am hurting so bad its no enjoyment anymore.

Where do we really go from here, in my heart they are taking MY CARDIFF AWAY.

I will never ever lose my love for the club as I will never lose the love I have for my kids no matter how much they change going forward. I have always respected your views but always believed like me that the football team that plays in Cardiff and is called called Cardiff with a history of over 100 years meant as much to you as it did to me. I guess a change of colour and a change of badge changes things for you as a move away from Cardiff or a change of name would change things for me. Whilst Cardiff plays in Cardiff whether it be playing in blue, red or pink with polka dots and whether it has a carp on the badge or a bluebird or a dragon I will always love this club.

The truth is, Tuesday night finally broke me, it hurt so much to see our fans looking like fake Liverpool and Man Utd fans, it was bad enough what Tan had done to our identity, but now our so called fans, embraced it and in fact loved it and forgot who we really are Cardiff City BLUE & THE BLUEBIRDS not Red Birds(Which is going at the end of this season). In over 40 years of following Cardiff seeing that was worse than any relegation or the 9 years we spent in the 4th Division, where I never missed a home or away game.

I am for the first time really starting to lose my love for the club Ive loved for over 40 years and have shed many a tear for, yet loved every moment of it deep down, but now I am hurting so bad its no enjoyment anymore.

Where do we really go from here, in my heart they are taking MY CARDIFF AWAY.

I will never ever lose my love for the club as I will never lose the love I have for my kids no matter how much they change going forward. I have always respected your views but always believed like me that the football team that plays in Cardiff and is called called Cardiff with a history of over 100 years meant as much to you as it did to me. I guess a change of colour and a change of badge changes things for you as a move away from Cardiff or a change of name would change things for me. Whilst Cardiff plays in Cardiff whether it be playing in blue, red or pink with polka dots and whether it has a carp on the badge or a bluebird or a dragon I will always love this club.

The problem is as much as I respect you views there are so many fans who think opposite to each other and thats what the re brand has achieved I dont no what else it has achieved but us fans are so far apart .

Years gone buy we would all walk up united and watch the city them days are gone you have to at least admit that.

You can love the club all you like and thats great but just like I love the club but the situation created is not a good for us or CCFC.