There are many reasons why we support Cardiff...

Great post, some posts on here lately have been borderline ridiculous. I am now 30 and been watching the city since i was 7 and have witnessed promotions, relegations and attrndances under 1000 in a league cup game but i would still be classed as a "plastic" or "sell out" due to the fact i accepted my red scarf on tuesday. I would love the city to be in blue again but i never started supporting them just because they played in blue. I started because they were my hometown club and because they were the team my father supported and still does. I have seen some lows (maybe not as many as some older fans) and now i want to witness the highs as well. I will support Cardiff City regardless of kit colour or what division we play in. I have had to deal with changes recently in work and my personal life and there are a couple of sayings that peole have said to me that ring true in times like these "nobody likes change" but "nothing stays the same forever"

Firstly over all that is a very good post. But and there is always a but, I wish posters/fans would get away from the "I have been going down the City since the age of the dinosaur etc. etc." narratives. The constant competition to see who has been going the longest and who has watched the worst City side ever in order gain credibility is becoming tiresome and frankly boring (no offence intended, honest)

Living in the past never achieves anything and I would prefer to hear about newer (preferably younger) fans that have started following the City and have the 'bug'

Excellent post!
I'll always remember my dad taking me down the city as a 3-4 year old during the 84/85 season for my first Cardiff City experience. Still get chills as I remember hearing the roar from the crowd while we stood on the Bob Bank.
Regardless of what hemisphere I'm living in, Cardiff City will be a part of me, irrespective of whether they play in blue, red, or pink. Cardiff till I die!

There are some memories..... I dont know whether you like Rugby League but I get to see some of the Newcastle Knights players when they come across here. (I do a lot of RL Photography).

They're memories which will last me a lifetime
Yeah I try to get to few Knights games when I can, although I prefer to go the Newcastle Jets games. Nice! So you see them when they're representing Australia in the Tri-Nations or World Cup?

Great post, some posts on here lately have been borderline ridiculous. I am now 30 and been watching the city since i was 7 and have witnessed promotions, relegations and attrndances under 1000 in a league cup game but i would still be classed as a "plastic" or "sell out" due to the fact i accepted my red scarf on tuesday. I would love the city to be in blue again but i never started supporting them just because they played in blue. I started because they were my hometown club and because they were the team my father supported and still does. I have seen some lows (maybe not as many as some older fans) and now i want to witness the highs as well. I will support Cardiff City regardless of kit colour or what division we play in. I have had to deal with changes recently in work and my personal life and there are a couple of sayings that peole have said to me that ring true in times like these "nobody likes change" but "nothing stays the same forever"

Firstly over all that is a very good post. But and there is always a but, I wish posters/fans would get away from the "I have been going down the City since the age of the dinosaur etc. etc." narratives. The constant competition to see who has been going the longest and who has watched the worst City side ever in order gain credibility is becoming tiresome and frankly boring (no offence intended, honest)

Living in the past never achieves anything and I would prefer to hear about newer (preferably younger) fans that have started following the City and have the 'bug'

I do apolagise, it does my head in as well but i just got carried away while writing this but sometimes i feel you have to put it in otherwise people shoot you down and label you a jonny come lately, i did get the bug after my first game and cant imagine life without Cardiff City FC

Great post, some posts on here lately have been borderline ridiculous. I am now 30 and been watching the city since i was 7 and have witnessed promotions, relegations and attrndances under 1000 in a league cup game but i would still be classed as a "plastic" or "sell out" due to the fact i accepted my red scarf on tuesday. I would love the city to be in blue again but i never started supporting them just because they played in blue. I started because they were my hometown club and because they were the team my father supported and still does. I have seen some lows (maybe not as many as some older fans) and now i want to witness the highs as well. I will support Cardiff City regardless of kit colour or what division we play in. I have had to deal with changes recently in work and my personal life and there are a couple of sayings that peole have said to me that ring true in times like these "nobody likes change" but "nothing stays the same forever"

Firstly over all that is a very good post. But and there is always a but, I wish posters/fans would get away from the "I have been going down the City since the age of the dinosaur etc. etc." narratives. The constant competition to see who has been going the longest and who has watched the worst City side ever in order gain credibility is becoming tiresome and frankly boring (no offence intended, honest)

Living in the past never achieves anything and I would prefer to hear about newer (preferably younger) fans that have started following the City and have the 'bug'

I do apolagise, it does my head in as well but i just got carried away while writing this but sometimes i feel you have to put it in otherwise people shoot you down and label you a jonny come lately, i did get the bug after my first game and cant imagine life without Cardiff City FC

That is very fair comment and yes you are correct the first snipe as we have all read many times is "I bet you have just started going" or the more amazing comment "you must be a Jack"

My comments were not a personal dig at you CityBlue (& you have the right to post whatever you like) but I was generally indicating that I would prefer if posters left out the history lessons as it is something we have all read a million times before.

Brilliant post, totally agree with everything you've said here.

Fair points by OP.

Its subjective and that is all that counts in my book. Choice, choice and choice - it is all yours. No one can bully you into agreeing with their point of view.

ps. to OP. How are you getting around the referral ban? Are you going in with a firm as an ABS or are you already there?

Great post, some posts on here lately have been borderline ridiculous. I am now 30 and been watching the city since i was 7 and have witnessed promotions, relegations and attrndances under 1000 in a league cup game but i would still be classed as a "plastic" or "sell out" due to the fact i accepted my red scarf on tuesday. I would love the city to be in blue again but i never started supporting them just because they played in blue. I started because they were my hometown club and because they were the team my father supported and still does. I have seen some lows (maybe not as many as some older fans) and now i want to witness the highs as well. I will support Cardiff City regardless of kit colour or what division we play in. I have had to deal with changes recently in work and my personal life and there are a couple of sayings that peole have said to me that ring true in times like these "nobody likes change" but "nothing stays the same forever"

Firstly over all that is a very good post. But and there is always a but, I wish posters/fans would get away from the "I have been going down the City since the age of the dinosaur etc. etc." narratives. The constant competition to see who has been going the longest and who has watched the worst City side ever in order gain credibility is becoming tiresome and frankly boring (no offence intended, honest)

Living in the past never achieves anything and I would prefer to hear about newer (preferably younger) fans that have started following the City and have the 'bug'

Tony, i don't think it is intended to be made out as a competition referring to who's been going down the city the longest, (it certainly is'nt in my case) i've no problem with the younger element going to games, infact, the more the merrier as far as i'm concerned, (afterall, they are the future of Cardiff City) i refer to it simply to compare where we were then as to where were are now, although i loved every minute of my Cardiff City "apprenticeship" most of it was crap on and off the pitch, something most of our younger supporters have not seen (not their fault when they are born) and, hopefully will never see, i also think because we are not getting any younger, (i'm 53) a lot of us are in the last chance saloon as far as watching the city in the promised land, i prey that we do it this season just to have a chance of putting our club up against the best in europe week in week out, of course it goes without saying that i would prefer to see us do it in a blue kit.

ps. to OP. How are you getting around the referral ban? Are you going in with a firm as an ABS or are you already there?

No he is going to rebrand instead

Tony, i don't think it is intended to be made out as a competition referring to who's been going down the city the longest, (it certainly is'nt in my case) i've no problem with the younger element going to games, infact, the more the merrier as far as i'm concerned, (afterall, they are the future of Cardiff City) i refer to it simply to compare where we were then as to where were are now, although i loved every minute of my Cardiff City "apprenticeship" most of it was crap on and off the pitch, something most of our younger supporters have not seen (not their fault when they are born) and, hopefully will never see, i also think because we are not getting any younger, (i'm 53) a lot of us are in the last chance saloon as far as watching the city in the promised land, i prey that we do it this season just to have a chance of putting our club up against the best in europe week in week out, of course it goes without saying that i would prefer to see us do it in a blue kit.

CB fair enough (I'm 51 BTW). We all know the history of the club since the 1970's and there seems no real reason for every poster to rake over the past just to enhance their perceived credibility (IMO of course yours could be different). Not only that there seems to be so many of these 'long term' fans that it is hard to understand why we were not playing before 20,000 fans during the 1980/90's?

Again like you this is last chance saloon for me to witness CCFC playing in the top division and possibly winning major honours. I would prefer to look forward to that rather than looking back on what was frankly a very awful time to be a Cardiff City fan.

Great post mate, spot on. I myself first went down in 1969 and have been going ever since I have seen many bad teams through the years I've shouted Bluebirds when we have played in yellow , white black and even green. And now when we play.in red. It's a pity because the red blue issue has stopped the chanting, sometimes its a library at home, get.behind the team and sing us to glory.

A question for the OP. How many colours have you seen us play in at home before the rebrand. I've only seen one colour.

its good to read a thread about the rebranding with no name calling or abuse.

it doesnt matter if your old or new both have a huge part to play in the very existence of Cardiff City FC.

personally im just a proud Cardiff man. i love CCFC and thats all that matters to me.

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Tuesday shocked me with all the Red scarves, got me really thinking am I out of touch ?

The Change of colour to Red OK but to throw our bluebird/emblem in the bin and replace with a Red Dragon ?
and people just accept it "I dont understand", looks a bit like MK Dons when they left Wimbledon.

We are now the laughing stock of british football (off the pitch that is) once we were regarded as one of the most passionate football fan`s anywhere in the Country, Now we are looked at as a bunch of sell out pussies, success at any price, would sell our grannies for money. "and it hurts"

I`m just hoping next season will have a bit of blue on the kit and new badge with the bluebird, just to get some true bluebird pride back.
personally even though we are having an amazing season absolutly brilliant but there is a sadness the way its being done.

Compromise and unite - please

people do come up with some amazing posts to justify accepting the rebrand, fair play

just be happy with your decision

Firstly, as a result of this post, I do not envisage that I will appease all supporters of our great club. But what I do wish to try and do is to bring some understanding of the present situation.

By way of a background I started supporting Cardiff City in 1973. I went down, as a 4 year old with my dad, and when he died (when I was 10) I continued to be taken down to support the club by Steve, my uncle, and Gill Samuel as she now is. I remain very grateful to them both.

I am 43 now and live in Wigan. I am someone who works within the legal profession but I am also someone who provides photographic services to the club I love - as well as the National Newspapers. In short I have witness many bad times and I am enjoying seeing some of the good times.

I mention my background because each of us has one. Each of us has their own seperate reason for supporting Cardiff and, quite often, that reason is totally different to the next person.

There will be those amongst us, perhaps in their 60s or older, who possibly never thought that they would see top flight football again. I have spoken to some of you and some have voiced the opinion that they would support our club irrespective as to what colour we play in but almost all wished to see top flight football before their own passing.

For those, like myself in their 40s, we have seen many bad times. Some prefer to take the historical approach whereas others prefer to take the view that in todays financial climate you either change or fail.

For those younger, you are probably joining our club at an exciting time. You may not have been part of the past but you are most definately part of the future.

For me our history was playing in Blue, the Bluebird, Ninian Park, Division 3 or 4 football and Debt - and realistically I have to ask myself whether that combination actually worked for us? I have to ask whether that is the future that I want for our club and whether I want to sit watching the likes of Tranmere and Bristol Rovers when our friends, down the road, are playing in Europe?

We will always have a history and it will always be one that we can be proud of. Not because we won trophies but because of who we are and what each of us went through on a week by week basis.

The time has come for our club to start taking steps into the big wide world and we need to "release the shackles" and let the club do this. Our club has reached maturity and we need to allow it to stand on its own two feet and reach the playing level that it wants to play at and, at the same time, reach a level of financial security that will ensure continued success. Each of us wants financial security for our own children so why not for the club that we love?

Many many years ago a club was born. Riverside FC played in a chocolate and gold kit and they played local league football. In fact, back then, the club was more of a cricket team than a soccer team. Natural progression saw that this club wanted to better itself and play amongst the elite of the Football League. That happened. The Cricket gave way to football (which was probably contentious in itself). The name changed from Riverside FC to Cardiff City and a new Blue strip was adopted.

That was some change.... Change of Sport.... Change of Name.... and change of Colours......

That was a momentous change in our clubs history and I am sure, at that time, there were people who had similar views as today.

Today we are on the verge of another momentous step. Despite what any of us think our club, like our children, wants to compete at the highest level and none of us, and I do mean none of us, have the right to stand in their way.

The club needs to stand on its feet and if the club believes that it can market itself better by playing in red then we need to let the club do this.

For me, over the years, I have seen the club play in a multitude of colours and therefore "As long as they are called Cardiff City" I am happy with that. Just like our children the club will make mistakes. They will learn from them and only time will tell whether this is a mistake or a major success.

In my opening paragraphs I mentioned that each of us has totally differing views as to why they support Cardiff City and I therefore respect all comments and all opinions. But let us treat Cardiff City as if it were our child and therefore ask ourselves not what is best for us "individually" but what is best for that child which is growing up. If, in years to come, the club is playing in Red and playing in Europe - I will be proud. If the venture failed and we are back to playing in Division 3 I will be equally proud for having the balls to have a go.

Some food for thought

'Our' club has obviously reached a level maturity not attained by the likes on most other clubs, included the most successful in this country, who still wear their traditional colours. In reality, we are just a vehicle for a foreign owner who is far more insensitive to tradition and the fan base than other wealthy owners in the game. Let's not kid ourselves here.

people do come up with some amazing posts to justify accepting the rebrand, fair play

just be happy with your decision

And your post on mikes board to justify your hatred towards Cardiff City are pathetic, what was your latest after our defeat on tuesday?? "fingers crossed that cardiff city bottle it again this season" thank god that scum like you don't go to watch the city anymore, (that's if you ever did)

A question for the OP. How many colours have you seen us play in at home before the rebrand. I've only seen one colour.

Loads actually, back before you were a tadpole home teams had to change kit if there was a clash of kits. So less of the op and get a grip moron

A question for the OP. How many colours have you seen us play in at home before the rebrand. I've only seen one colour.

Loads actually, back before you were a tadpole home teams had to change kit if there was a clash of kits. So less of the op and get a grip moron

Right you have been going 2 years longer than me. I started in 1971 and been to over a thousand games at home. I've never seen us play in any other colour than blue. Are you sure you knew where you were?

I've been going down 44 yrs and have been to probally 1500 games home and away they definitely changed at home if there was a clash in the 70,ss

I've been going down 44 yrs and have been to probally 1500 games home and away they definitely changed at home if there was a clash in the 70,ss

Will have to look this up because thats when I went most weeks. Left Wales in 1979.

I just cannot remember or recall any match at home where we did not wear the blue then.

One of the best posts I've read regarding the 'Rebranding' well done Paul.

I've been going down 44 yrs and have been to probally 1500 games home and away they definitely changed at home if there was a clash in the 70,ss

Well, i can count the games on one hand that i missed in the 70's, and i can't remember us having to change our home kit from blue.

Paul ... great piece but I have to admit that I have very mixed feelings about all the changes.

I have my doubts over Tan and whether the debt to equity will actually happen. If he does and City go from strength to strength rather than just piling us with more debt and reaping the rewards himself, then I will admit that I am wrong.

I hope to god that he does what he has promised and my son and I get to support City in the Premiership as a well run club.

In the past we had many discussions about City when we were in MQ and even when we worked together in Jackland so I understand your feelings and history. We all have our reasons as to why we follow City and I will continue to do so .... even though right now it does seem strained.

N.

Cheers "N"

Good to hear from you. Hope the family are good?

I think it is only strained if we want it to be strained. The reality is that Cardiff City is a child growing up and there are close on 50-60,000 people who have a genuine interest in how that child develops.

We all want the best but sometimes we want the best for ourselves and not for "the child".

Cheers

Paul

Excellent post!
I'll always remember my dad taking me down the city as a 3-4 year old during the 84/85 season for my first Cardiff City experience. Still get chills as I remember hearing the roar from the crowd while we stood on the Bob Bank.
Regardless of what hemisphere I'm living in, Cardiff City will be a part of me, irrespective of whether they play in blue, red, or pink. Cardiff till I die!

There are some memories..... I dont know whether you like Rugby League but I get to see some of the Newcastle Knights players when they come across here. (I do a lot of RL Photography).

They're memories which will last me a lifetime
Yeah I try to get to few Knights games when I can, although I prefer to go the Newcastle Jets games. Nice! So you see them when they're representing Australia in the Tri-Nations or World Cup?

NSW - Yes I will see them all at the Tri Nations and the World Cup. The Knights had a bit of a bad season last year but when you consider that they have Danny Buderus, Kurt Gidley, Willie Mason and Wayne Bennett as Head Coach you have to think that they will do well this year.

Have to admit. My teams are the Manly Sea Eagles and Melbourne Storm - (Or should I say Melbourne "Salary Cap" Storm!)

Fair points by OP.

Its subjective and that is all that counts in my book. Choice, choice and choice - it is all yours. No one can bully you into agreeing with their point of view.

ps. to OP. How are you getting around the referral ban? Are you going in with a firm as an ABS or are you already there?

Cheers for the comments.

As to the Referral Ban it doesnt apply to me as I am employed by a company and get paid a salary irrespective as to whether people contact me or not. I simply offer to help anyone on here who has been the victim of an accident - and ensure that they are not ripped off!