Those against the rebrand

It's not really hypocrtical though, is it?

Supporting the team doesn't mean you have to support the rebrand.

Spot on Paul.

It's not really hypocrtical though, is it?

Supporting the team doesn't mean you have to support the rebrand.

But they are Paul by continuing to support it financially, I have more respect for those that walked away out of principle, but those that moan and call others sell outs, yet do exactly the same as the ones they accuse of selling out make my blood boil.
Mind you, some have taken the massive step of not buying programmes, so at least they are doing something positive.

Easy to laugh at your own fans isn't it.

I'll never support the rebrand but I also won't be driven away from the club I love.

I was here before Tan, I'll be here after him and I'm enjoying seeing us top of the league. Hopefully next year I be watching us in the premier.

The reason I'll never support the rebrand is that it it is totally unnecessary and completely disrespectful.

Give me a reason why we had to change to red? A reason that doesn't involve the investment, which of course, could have stil been made if we continued to play in blue.

It's not really hypocrtical though, is it?

Supporting the team doesn't mean you have to support the rebrand.

But they are Paul by continuing to support it financially, I have more respect for those that walked away out of principle, but those that moan and call others sell outs, yet do exactly the same as the ones they accuse of selling out make my blood boil.
Mind you, some have taken the massive step of not buying programmes, so at least they are doing something positive.

Easy to laugh at your own fans isn't it.

I'll never support the rebrand but I also won't be driven away from the club I love.

I was here before Tan, I'll be here after him and I'm enjoying seeing us top of the league. Hopefully next year I be watching us in the premier.

The reason I'll never support the rebrand is that it it is totally unnecessary and completely disrespectful.

Give me a reason why we had to change to red? A reason that doesn't involve the investment, which of course, could have stil been made if we continued to play in blue.

Many called fans who are not bothered by the rebrand sell outs and soul sellers that only care about premiership football?
But you will all be there watching premiership football wont you or you all gonna make a stand and not attend in protest ?
Happy to call fans names but the same time getting season tickets for next season Hypocrites..

I support the rebrand 100% but I still don't like playing in red. I have been called a sell out hundreds of times in debates over the issue on this board and frankly it is water off a ducks back.

I'm not even sure what is meant by the term but if it means I want Cardiff City in the Premier League and compeating for the biggest prizes in football, then yes I'm most certainly a sell out.

Easy to laugh at your own fans isn't it.

I'll never support the rebrand but I also won't be driven away from the club I love.

I was here before Tan, I'll be here after him and I'm enjoying seeing us top of the league. Hopefully next year I be watching us in the premier.

The reason I'll never support the rebrand is that it it is totally unnecessary and completely disrespectful.

Give me a reason why we had to change to red? A reason that doesn't involve the investment, which of course, could have stil been made if we continued to play in blue.

I might be at the opposite end of the argument to you Rob, but I fully agree with you attitude to the rebrand. You are obviously against the rebrand but doesn't mean you have to walk away from the club.

Tony how can you support the rebrand 100% and then claim you dont like us playing in red.Surely you are 90% behind the rebrand. Confused.com

Tony how can you support the rebrand 100% and then claim you dont like us playing in red.Surely you are 90% behind the rebrand. Confused.com

I'm 100% behind the rebrand because it is our only hope of ridding ourselves of our historical debt, settling the Langston Loan Notes, conforming with the Financial Fair Play Regulations and establishing ourselves in the Premier League.

I personally don't like us playing in Red but I'm pragmatic enough to understand it is a price we HAVE to pay because it is part of Tan's vision and he is paying the bills.

Hope that clears things up.

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It's not really hypocrtical though, is it?

Supporting the team doesn't mean you have to support the rebrand.

A team playing in red which some are supposed to detest or is it when it suits?
What if we play in red for another 20 years will people still be moaning and still attending or will they just get on with it or stop going cause they hate it so much?

Are you thick or just desperate for replies?

Spell your name right sucker

That the best you got boyo?

Enjoy your free scarf tomorrow and dont forget to strike a pose

At least jinks doesent have to hide under another user name unlike some to say what he thinks

Tony how can you support the rebrand 100% and then claim you dont like us playing in red.Surely you are 90% behind the rebrand. Confused.com

I'm 100% behind the rebrand because it is our only hope of ridding ourselves of our historical debt, settling the Langston Loan Notes, conforming with the Financial Fair Play Regulations and establishing ourselves in the Premier League.

I personally don't like us playing in Red but I'm pragmatic enough to understand it is a price we HAVE to pay because it is part of Tan's vision and he is paying the bills.

Hope that clears things up.

All he has done is put us further in debt though?!

Tony how can you support the rebrand 100% and then claim you dont like us playing in red.Surely you are 90% behind the rebrand. Confused.com

I'm 100% behind the rebrand because it is our only hope of ridding ourselves of our historical debt, settling the Langston Loan Notes, conforming with the Financial Fair Play Regulations and establishing ourselves in the Premier League.

I personally don't like us playing in Red but I'm pragmatic enough to understand it is a price we HAVE to pay because it is part of Tan's vision and he is paying the bills.

Hope that clears things up.

Nope the rebrand included playing in red so if you dont support that then you cannot be 100% behind the whole rebrand.

It's not really hypocrtical though, is it?

Supporting the team doesn't mean you have to support the rebrand.

A team playing in red which some are supposed to detest or is it when it suits?
What if we play in red for another 20 years will people still be moaning and still attending or will they just get on with it or stop going cause they hate it so much?

Are you thick or just desperate for replies?

Spell your name right sucker

That the best you got boyo?

Enjoy your free scarf tomorrow and dont forget to strike a pose

At least jinks doesent have to hide under another user name unlike some to say what he thinks

I never hide behind a made up name like some.

It's not really hypocrtical though, is it?

Supporting the team doesn't mean you have to support the rebrand.

But they are Paul by continuing to support it financially, I have more respect for those that walked away out of principle, but those that moan and call others sell outs, yet do exactly the same as the ones they accuse of selling out make my blood boil.
Mind you, some have taken the massive step of not buying programmes, so at least they are doing something positive.

You going to bury me?

Those who have boycotted(especially the most vociferous on the CCMB)believe you can't be anti-rebrand and still attend Cardiff City games. We're all culpable, and we've all sold our souls

Apparently

Those who have boycotted(especially the most vociferous on the CCMB)believe you can't be anti-rebrand and still attend Cardiff City games. We're all culpable, and we've all sold our souls

Apparently

Dont start Bluebird64 off on souls ffs. He thinks Tan is such a bad man hes put all of Cardiffs fishmongers out of business. Hes taken all the sole from the City apparently. Evil man.

It's not really hypocrtical though, is it?

Supporting the team doesn't mean you have to support the rebrand.

But they are Paul by continuing to support it financially, I have more respect for those that walked away out of principle, but those that moan and call others sell outs, yet do exactly the same as the ones they accuse of selling out make my blood boil.
Mind you, some have taken the massive step of not buying programmes, so at least they are doing something positive.

You going to bury me?

get my programme free! only thing can boycott is the chips but sorry that's a step to far!

What a ridiculous thread this is

Many called fans who are not bothered by the rebrand sell outs and soul sellers that only care about premiership football?
But you will all be there watching premiership football wont you or you all gonna make a stand and not attend in protest ?
Happy to call fans names but the same time getting season tickets for next season Hypocrites..

I would be renewing my ST even if it was the f*cking Conference let alone the Premier League that City are playing in next season ...... how many so called fans new or old can say that ?

It's not really hypocrtical though, is it?

Supporting the team doesn't mean you have to support the rebrand.

Spot on Paul.

I have tried to make concerted effort to stay out of these rebrand threads because they have been done to death but I'm
Interested on how some folk that don't agree with the rebrand but continue to handover their money to the club.

So this is how I understand it .. You dislike the wrapping but like the product ?

It's not really hypocrtical though, is it?

Supporting the team doesn't mean you have to support the rebrand.

Spot on Paul.

I have tried to make concerted effort to stay out of these rebrand threads because they have been done to death but I'm
Interested on how some folk that don't agree with the rebrand but continue to handover their money to the club.

So this is how I understand it .. You dislike the wrapping but like the product ?

There have been a lot of things the club has done over the years that someone wont like. Does this mean that they should not go anymore?

It's not really hypocrtical though, is it?

Supporting the team doesn't mean you have to support the rebrand.

Spot on Paul.

I have tried to make concerted effort to stay out of these rebrand threads because they have been done to death but I'm
Interested on how some folk that don't agree with the rebrand but continue to handover their money to the club.

So this is how I understand it .. You dislike the wrapping but like the product ?

There have been a lot of things the club has done over the years that someone wont like. Does this mean that they should not go anymore?

No of course not , but branding other fans sellout because they are not bothered by the wrapping is a little extreme don't you think ?

It's not really hypocrtical though, is it?

Supporting the team doesn't mean you have to support the rebrand.

Spot on Paul.

I have tried to make concerted effort to stay out of these rebrand threads because they have been done to death but I'm
Interested on how some folk that don't agree with the rebrand but continue to handover their money to the club.

So this is how I understand it .. You dislike the wrapping but like the product ?

There have been a lot of things the club has done over the years that someone wont like. Does this mean that they should not go anymore?

No of course not , but branding other fans sellout because they are not bothered by the wrapping is a little extreme don't you think ?

In a way we can all be accused of selling out as we all still go. However those that have embraced it will be known more of a sellout than most.

This is old shite,
FFS, the pro rebrand against the no rebrand,
forget it till the season has finished, then we can all argue again.
Tan`s lucky RED is working at the moment, but that f*cking badge
nevermind just support the team, we need to stay UNITED together.

This is old shite,
FFS, the pro rebrand against the no rebrand,
forget it till the season has finished, then we can all argue again.
Tan`s lucky RED is working at the moment, but that f*cking badge
nevermind just support the team, we need to stay UNITED together.

Have a word with the OP then.

The day we get promoted this forum will be awash with rebrand threads and it will ruin a monumentus day in our history......such a shame

It's not really hypocrtical though, is it?

Supporting the team doesn't mean you have to support the rebrand.

Spot on Paul.

I have tried to make concerted effort to stay out of these rebrand threads because they have been done to death but I'm
Interested on how some folk that don't agree with the rebrand but continue to handover their money to the club.

So this is how I understand it .. You dislike the wrapping but like the product ?

There have been a lot of things the club has done over the years that someone wont like. Does this mean that they should not go anymore?

No of course not , but branding other fans sellout because they are not bothered by the wrapping is a little extreme don't you think ?

In a way we can all be accused of selling out as we all still go. However those that have embraced it will be known more of a sellout than most.

Correct me if I'm wrong but when you say " embrace" you mean buy merchandise in the new colours / badge ?
If Tan had not reverted to the condition of offering money in exchange for the rebrand then we wouldn't all be labelling each other "Sellouts"
At the end of the day our " wrapping " has changed before and will again . Have we always had the Bluebird on our badge ... I think not.

Have we always been blue since Cardiff City was formed as an entity in 1908? I think so.

I have always had a Bluebird on my badge ...... ever since 1974 when I started following CCFC

Most of the fans are babys anyway, grow up.

It's not really hypocrtical though, is it?

Supporting the team doesn't mean you have to support the rebrand.

Spot on Paul.

I have tried to make concerted effort to stay out of these rebrand threads because they have been done to death but I'm
Interested on how some folk that don't agree with the rebrand but continue to handover their money to the club.

So this is how I understand it .. You dislike the wrapping but like the product ?

Football is a product like no other.
It grips you, I'm 100% behind Malky and the boys but have no interest in being Red...

I can't stay away, i'm happy to admit that

It's not really hypocrtical though, is it?

Supporting the team doesn't mean you have to support the rebrand.

Spot on Paul.

I have tried to make concerted effort to stay out of these rebrand threads because they have been done to death but I'm
Interested on how some folk that don't agree with the rebrand but continue to handover their money to the club.

So this is how I understand it .. You dislike the wrapping but like the product ?

Football is a product like no other.
It grips you, I'm 100% behind Malky and the boys but have no interest in being Red...

I can't stay away, i'm happy to admit that

Thats fair enough but the ones who still go but at the same time call people soul sellers etc are full of shit