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Re: TAN HAS CALLED A MEETING

Fri Feb 15, 2013 9:35 am

taffyapple wrote:I wouldnt know. Perhaps this 'meeting' will be the day after we secure promotion
No idea on that.


So, in fact, Tan hasn't called a meeting at all, as your thread heading suggested.....

Re: TAN HAS CALLED A MEETING

Fri Feb 15, 2013 10:05 am

Forever Blue wrote:
Natman Blue wrote:
scott_w_ccfc wrote:
taffyapple wrote:This is from a very reliable source (and i dont do these 'sources' stories)
Its the story that 'lovejoy' journalist has been keeping schtumm about we think

He has apparently accepted that the rebrand has upset too many people and
has admitted that he should have handled
the whole rebrand much better AND had more consultation with the Trust and
supporters groups re: the badge/kit etc. He IS adamant that Red is a lucky colour
but perhaps the Blue CAN be incorporated into the kit AND the bluebird will be
remaining (but so will the Dragon?) He wants to arrange meetings once the
season is over to try and get ALL the supporters on board. Brilliant news!! The
red scarf bollocks was decided some time ago by all accounts and WILL go ahead
but he was told that many supporters might not take up the red scarves and will
insist on waving blue ones. Apparently this shocked Tan. He thought all was rosy
in the garden.

Nothing confirmed of course until all parties meet up after the season but it
looks promising. He has ADMITTED some of HIS ideas were not too well thought
out :ayatollah: :ayatollah: :ayatollah: :ayatollah: :ayatollah: :ayatollah:

All i will say is that if Tan at least shows that he is making the effort for the fans by incorporating the blue back into our kit, even if its only half, and he lets the bluebird remain, then personally my respect for him will go up 1000% and i might even, just might, be able to get on board with what he wants to do here.

I would just like to see that he's not completely intent on ripping the identity away from our club and he does care about what our fans think. :ayatollah: :ayatollah:


Look at it based on evidence and the work Tan has put in to recognizing the history of the club both around the stadium and training ground. The only people saying 'Tan doesn't care' or that he wants to throw our history away is a certain prominent poster and owner of this website. Someone who has a vested interest due to a certain mate being a former owner themself. Someone else once told me "speak as you find", the problem is that we're jumping to conclusions based on the purposeful misinformation of said poster and others.



Your a very sad person you are Nantman.
I care about our identity, our pride, tradition and our mounting debt.
I have said before Cardiff City comes first everytime, to bring Sam in to this again how pathetic, it's u who is obsessed by Sam, not me.
I am obssesed with our Blue, tradition, our Bluebird and our pride and also want a Debt Fee club.
This forum allows everyone there opinion and you know that.

If what Dave says comes true great, but I know Tan does not give in on things and it's his way or no way.


Not sad, just not worried about a colour. We're still Cardiff City and still play in cardiff, the capital city of Wales; that's what is important to me and as far as I can see that hasn't changed.

My gripe is with your constant bashing of Tan, in part due to the agenda of your mate. If it isn't the colour its the budget or our 'traditions' or the debt or not signing players or signing too many. Tan has done a lot of good for this club, we wouldn't be here if not for him and TG, but until your mate gets his way nothing will be good enough. That is my opinion on things; you will do what you can to undermine the current majority share holders of the club. With the money he has sunk into the club he's entitled to have a large say in what happens, he is keeping the club a float, but you want us to believe he is a harsh dictator with his way or nothing as opposed to "the man who loves this club"

Re: TAN HAS CALLED A MEETING

Fri Feb 15, 2013 10:34 am

All that is needed is a bit of consideration.

A blue and red strip would solve matters. Not in a Crystal Palace way but in some of the ways that we've seen from graphics lads that have produced some great sample kits. Say a red top with blue sides or a blue top with a red band across the middle. Compromise is all that is needed to solve everything.

I think Tan needs to realise that it is in the best interests of this club and his finances to get the core of support on side with the colour issue. Don't ostracize anyone. If Tan can win over both the red and blue supporters then he has one hell of a support base there. It's not rocket science. Keep the blue, keep the bluebird and the potential of the club suddenly goes back to being immense.

Re: TAN HAS CALLED A MEETING

Fri Feb 15, 2013 11:09 am

swansealad69 wrote:He wants a meeting with all involved with his club to say tha wants all fans players and staff to sing happy birthday or he his going to pull out of the club.
FACT :thumbup:

:lol:

And bloody hell, been getting writing tuitions have you? Good job!

Re: TAN HAS CALLED A MEETING

Fri Feb 15, 2013 11:22 am

The Lone Gunman wrote:
taffyapple wrote:I wouldnt know. Perhaps this 'meeting' will be the day after we secure promotion
No idea on that.


So, in fact, Tan hasn't called a meeting at all, as your thread heading suggested.....


WHY ARE YOU COMMENTING??

Seriously?

Have you just jumped on this thread to put down any positive vibes coming from the
Club.

That takes bitterness to a new extreme. Or do you feel slighted cos you didnt get it on
your blog first?

My information is from a solid bloke. He does not know what date the meeting will take
place. Presumably, Tan will have to put together some proposals first (if thats ok with you)
The actual quote from the E mail was "VT does not like the idea of ANY fans turning
their back, because it equates to lost revenue"

Re: TAN HAS CALLED A MEETING

Fri Feb 15, 2013 11:29 am

since62 wrote:
taffyapple wrote:This is from a very reliable source (and i dont do these 'sources' stories)
Its the story that 'lovejoy' journalist has been keeping schtumm about we think

He has apparently accepted that the rebrand has upset too many people and
has admitted that he should have handled
the whole rebrand much better AND had more consultation with the Trust and
supporters groups re: the badge/kit etc. He IS adamant that Red is a lucky colour
but perhaps the Blue CAN be incorporated into the kit AND the bluebird will be
remaining (but so will the Dragon?) He wants to arrange meetings once the
season is over to try and get ALL the supporters on board. Brilliant news!! The
red scarf bollocks was decided some time ago by all accounts and WILL go ahead
but he was told that many supporters might not take up the red scarves and will
insist on waving blue ones. Apparently this shocked Tan. He thought all was rosy
in the garden.

Nothing confirmed of course until all parties meet up after the season but it
looks promising. He has ADMITTED some of HIS ideas were not too well thought
out :ayatollah: :ayatollah: :ayatollah: :ayatollah: :ayatollah: :ayatollah:



The heading suggests a meeting has actually been called which would be good.

But nothing has actually happened has it? This suggests to me that leaking out that there may be such a meeting at some future unset date after the season ends is a ploy attempting to reduce or defer any unrest over the ongoing , extended rebrand plans. Certainly , I can`t imagine VT wishing to have any signs of dissent at the televised match the day before his birthday or it won`t be consistent to him being able to say back in Malaysia "look they love the red so much they are waving red scarves in honour of my birthday".

I would not be suprised if Ali is under strict instruction to lead the crowd into a rendition of "happy birthday"at the Brighton game as well- watch this space!

If it was a genuine attempt to explain to fans why the need for a change and to take on board and listen to their comments , then why not have such a meeting far earlier than the end of the season?


I have passed on information I received in an EMail off someone not associated with the
Club, but he was with Tan.

What dissent do you mean? There has been no dissent up to now? We have already had televised
matches at the CCS?

As for "why not have a meeting far earlier"?? I dont know. Your the Trust. You are the voice
of the fans, why didnt YOU ask him

Re: TAN HAS CALLED A MEETING

Fri Feb 15, 2013 11:38 am

taffyapple wrote:WHY ARE YOU COMMENTING??


I'm commenting because you're bullshitting.

Tan hasn't called a meeting, as your heading boldly suggests.

End of story.

Re: TAN HAS CALLED A MEETING

Fri Feb 15, 2013 11:43 am

The Lone Gunman wrote:
taffyapple wrote:WHY ARE YOU COMMENTING??


I'm commenting because you're bullshitting.

Tan hasn't called a meeting, as your heading boldly suggests.

End of story.


Pray tell how you know this? Are you SO bitter about this Club that you will
attack anything positive coming from it?

I'm a bullshitter am i? yet we are expected to believe everything you write in your
self-obsessed "cry for attention" blogs

You said you'd gone, so why dont you keep your word and f**k off?

End of story

(or perhaps you could get CCFCTRUE to do another "TLG says")

yeh righto :? :? :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

Re: TAN HAS CALLED A MEETING

Fri Feb 15, 2013 11:44 am

Its amazing who is allowed to post when it suits

Re: TAN HAS CALLED A MEETING

Fri Feb 15, 2013 11:47 am

CraigCCFC wrote:Its amazing who is allowed to post when it suits


Pathetic innit.

How telling is it that these people are now tearing their hair out to discredit it
sooner than crossing their fingers and hoping it is all spot on!!

Perhaps I should have started a thread saying "Tan is threatening to petrol bomb
the Fred Keenor Statue"

Definite sticky :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

Re: TAN HAS CALLED A MEETING

Fri Feb 15, 2013 11:51 am

taffyapple wrote:I'm a bullshitter am i?


Has Tan called a meeting? If so, with who and when?

Re: TAN HAS CALLED A MEETING

Fri Feb 15, 2013 11:59 am

The Lone Gunman wrote:
taffyapple wrote:I'm a bullshitter am i?


Has Tan called a meeting? If so, with who and when?


Did I say i knew who with or when?

Again I'LL ask... why are you on here? I thought you'd fucked off. Or
are you that bitter you just monitor sites in case something positive
is posted about the Club?

Simple question that. You never post on here, but within hours of some
possibly brilliant news about the Club... here you are knocking it with
no evidence.

There are posts on here all day every day slagging Tan off and undermining
the Club. You NEVER comment on them.

So you obviously have an agenda.

How sad

Re: TAN HAS CALLED A MEETING

Fri Feb 15, 2013 12:02 pm

taffyapple wrote:Did I say i knew who with or when?


No. But, as everyone can see, you boldly stated TAN HAS CALLED A MEETING.

Clearly, you were bullshitting.

Re: TAN HAS CALLED A MEETING

Fri Feb 15, 2013 12:06 pm

taffyapple wrote:Again I'LL ask... why are you on here?


I'm 'on here' because I'm a registered member of this forum and I'm friendly with the website's owner. In fact, we corresponded this very morning.

Why are you on here?

Re: TAN HAS CALLED A MEETING

Fri Feb 15, 2013 12:06 pm

Hope it's true I would prefer all blue with old badge of course but a compromise would look better than our current crappy Manure lookalike kit :ayatollah:

Re: TAN HAS CALLED A MEETING

Fri Feb 15, 2013 12:17 pm

taffyapple wrote:
The Lone Gunman wrote:
taffyapple wrote:I'm a bullshitter am i?


Has Tan called a meeting? If so, with who and when?


Did I say i knew who with or when?

Again I'LL ask... why are you on here? I thought you'd fucked off. Or
are you that bitter you just monitor sites in case something positive
is posted about the Club?

Simple question that. You never post on here, but within hours of some
possibly brilliant news about the Club... here you are knocking it with
no evidence.

There are posts on here all day every day slagging Tan off and undermining
the Club. You NEVER comment on them.

So you obviously have an agenda.

How sad


Taffy he's not a cardiff fan i'd stop replying to him and his bitter nonsense

Re: TAN HAS CALLED A MEETING

Fri Feb 15, 2013 12:19 pm

The Lone Gunman wrote:
taffyapple wrote:Again I'LL ask... why are you on here?


I'm 'on here' because I'm a registered member of this forum and I'm friendly with the website's owner. In fact, we corresponded this very morning.

Why are you on here?


I'm on here to talk about all things Cardiff City, City-til-i-die, that kind of stuff.
Last weeks performance, the players the injuries, who's on form, who isn't.
The journey up to away games, local pubs, the food in the CCS, the view, stewarding,
The positive steps the Club is taking, the way the Club is moving forwards, the way
Tan has upset some of the fan base with the rebrand, the way he is dealing with
Sam Hammam, the way we have got the Club back off the egg chasers etc etc

Want me to E Mail you every time something positive appears about the Club though
and I will? Then you can get online and try and discredit it.

Bitter bitter lad

Re: TAN HAS CALLED A MEETING

Fri Feb 15, 2013 12:20 pm

Would prefer the Bluebird on the badge than to be incorperated into the kit to be honest, the badge represents us, it's something people have tattooed on them(not the new badge of course) but car stickers and that etc, would be nice for this to be true though but the thing is in the summer people would moan about the Trust, Supporters Club etc being listened to and people being like, you're only speaking for yourself etc, if that makes sense? I do remember that survey we were all given, hopefully that comes into fruition

Re: TAN HAS CALLED A MEETING

Fri Feb 15, 2013 12:21 pm

Wouldn't it be ironic if Tan decided that in the summer we would go back to blue and all those that didnt stick by the club and gave their ST's back couldnt get one next season

Re: TAN HAS CALLED A MEETING

Fri Feb 15, 2013 12:23 pm

I Bleed Blue wrote:Would prefer the Bluebird on the badge than to be incorperated into the kit to be honest, the badge represents us, it's something people have tattooed on them(not the new badge of course) but car stickers and that etc, would be nice for this to be true though but the thing is in the summer people would moan about the Trust, Supporters Club etc being listened to and people being like, you're only speaking for yourself etc, if that makes sense? I do remember that survey we were all given, hopefully that comes into fruition


I dont want it on the kit itself either. I want it to remain on the badge too

Re: TAN HAS CALLED A MEETING

Fri Feb 15, 2013 12:33 pm

scott_w_ccfc wrote:
taffyapple wrote:This is from a very reliable source (and i dont do these 'sources' stories)
Its the story that 'lovejoy' journalist has been keeping schtumm about we think

He has apparently accepted that the rebrand has upset too many people and
has admitted that he should have handled
the whole rebrand much better AND had more consultation with the Trust and
supporters groups re: the badge/kit etc. He IS adamant that Red is a lucky colour
but perhaps the Blue CAN be incorporated into the kit AND the bluebird will be
remaining (but so will the Dragon?) He wants to arrange meetings once the
season is over to try and get ALL the supporters on board. Brilliant news!! The
red scarf bollocks was decided some time ago by all accounts and WILL go ahead
but he was told that many supporters might not take up the red scarves and will
insist on waving blue ones. Apparently this shocked Tan. He thought all was rosy
in the garden.

Nothing confirmed of course until all parties meet up after the season but it
looks promising. He has ADMITTED some of HIS ideas were not too well thought
out :ayatollah: :ayatollah: :ayatollah: :ayatollah: :ayatollah: :ayatollah:

All i will say is that if Tan at least shows that he is making the effort for the fans by incorporating the blue back into our kit, even if its only half, and he lets the bluebird remain, then personally my respect for him will go up 1000% and i might even, just might, be able to get on board with what he wants to do here.

I would just like to see that he's not completely intent on ripping the identity away from our club and he does care about what our fans think. :ayatollah: :ayatollah:


spot on mate. i really hope mr apple is right.

Re: TAN HAS CALLED A MEETING

Fri Feb 15, 2013 12:35 pm

scott_w_ccfc wrote:
taffyapple wrote:This is from a very reliable source (and i dont do these 'sources' stories)
Its the story that 'lovejoy' journalist has been keeping schtumm about we think

He has apparently accepted that the rebrand has upset too many people and
has admitted that he should have handled
the whole rebrand much better AND had more consultation with the Trust and
supporters groups re: the badge/kit etc. He IS adamant that Red is a lucky colour
but perhaps the Blue CAN be incorporated into the kit AND the bluebird will be
remaining (but so will the Dragon?) He wants to arrange meetings once the
season is over to try and get ALL the supporters on board. Brilliant news!! The
red scarf bollocks was decided some time ago by all accounts and WILL go ahead
but he was told that many supporters might not take up the red scarves and will
insist on waving blue ones. Apparently this shocked Tan. He thought all was rosy
in the garden.

Nothing confirmed of course until all parties meet up after the season but it
looks promising. He has ADMITTED some of HIS ideas were not too well thought
out :ayatollah: :ayatollah: :ayatollah: :ayatollah: :ayatollah: :ayatollah:

All i will say is that if Tan at least shows that he is making the effort for the fans by incorporating the blue back into our kit, even if its only half, and he lets the bluebird remain, then personally my respect for him will go up 1000% and i might even, just might, be able to get on board with what he wants to do here.

I would just like to see that he's not completely intent on ripping the identity away from our club and he does care about what our fans think. :ayatollah: :ayatollah:


spot on mate. i really hope mr apple is right.

Re: TAN HAS CALLED A MEETING

Fri Feb 15, 2013 12:37 pm

A bit of blue and the smallest bluebird on the badge is still not enough in my opinion. A full blue shirt and a bluebird on the badge and not the dragon is the only way forward.

If Tan didn't realise that the so-called rebrand was not going down well with supporters then who the hell has been feeding him the positive bollox..? He can't be looking on the fans forums then or even talking to anyone at ground level!!!

In all fairness the guy 'could' have been worshipped as a God in these parts but the re-brand has just put him on par with other chairman whos taken the supporters for a ride over the years.

Turn back blue and you watch the positivity light get ever so brighter!!!

Re: TAN HAS CALLED A MEETING

Fri Feb 15, 2013 12:39 pm

Angry Man wrote:A bit of blue and the smallest bluebird on the badge is still not enough in my opinion. A full blue shirt and a bluebird on the badge and not the dragon is the only way forward.

If Tan didn't realise that the so-called rebrand was not going down well with supporters then who the hell has been feeding him the positive bollox..? He can't be looking on the fans forums then or even talking to anyone at ground level!!!

In all fairness the guy 'could' have been worshipped as a God in these parts but the re-brand has just put him on par with other chairman whos taken the supporters for a ride over the years.

Turn back blue and you watch the positivity light get ever so brighter!!!


Yeh but it wasnt the rebrand stopped you going!!

Therapy on Saturdays is it? :lol: :lol:

Re: TAN HAS CALLED A MEETING

Fri Feb 15, 2013 12:53 pm

taffyapple wrote:
Angry Man wrote:A bit of blue and the smallest bluebird on the badge is still not enough in my opinion. A full blue shirt and a bluebird on the badge and not the dragon is the only way forward.

If Tan didn't realise that the so-called rebrand was not going down well with supporters then who the hell has been feeding him the positive bollox..? He can't be looking on the fans forums then or even talking to anyone at ground level!!!

In all fairness the guy 'could' have been worshipped as a God in these parts but the re-brand has just put him on par with other chairman whos taken the supporters for a ride over the years.

Turn back blue and you watch the positivity light get ever so brighter!!!


Yeh but it wasnt the rebrand stopped you going!!

Therapy on Saturdays is it? :lol: :lol:


Oh yes it was and if you disagree then do you have proof that your view is correct..? If I'm honest with you staying away is killing me really mainly because of the social side of going to the football with the boys but I will standby my view until any change happens.

Re: TAN HAS CALLED A MEETING

Fri Feb 15, 2013 12:55 pm

Angry Man wrote:
taffyapple wrote:
Angry Man wrote:A bit of blue and the smallest bluebird on the badge is still not enough in my opinion. A full blue shirt and a bluebird on the badge and not the dragon is the only way forward.

If Tan didn't realise that the so-called rebrand was not going down well with supporters then who the hell has been feeding him the positive bollox..? He can't be looking on the fans forums then or even talking to anyone at ground level!!!

In all fairness the guy 'could' have been worshipped as a God in these parts but the re-brand has just put him on par with other chairman whos taken the supporters for a ride over the years.

Turn back blue and you watch the positivity light get ever so brighter!!!


Yeh but it wasnt the rebrand stopped you going!!

Therapy on Saturdays is it? :lol: :lol:


Oh yes it was and if you disagree then do you have proof that your view is correct..? If I'm honest with you staying away is killing me really mainly because of the social side of going to the football with the boys but I will standby my view until any change happens.


Classic :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

Re: TAN HAS CALLED A MEETING

Fri Feb 15, 2013 12:55 pm

taffyapple wrote:This is from a very reliable source (and i dont do these 'sources' stories)
Its the story that 'lovejoy' journalist has been keeping schtumm about we think

He has apparently accepted that the rebrand has upset too many people and
has admitted that he should have handled
the whole rebrand much better AND had more consultation with the Trust and
supporters groups re: the badge/kit etc. He IS adamant that Red is a lucky colour
but perhaps the Blue CAN be incorporated into the kit AND the bluebird will be
remaining (but so will the Dragon?) He wants to arrange meetings once the
season is over to try and get ALL the supporters on board. Brilliant news!! The
red scarf bollocks was decided some time ago by all accounts and WILL go ahead
but he was told that many supporters might not take up the red scarves and will
insist on waving blue ones. Apparently this shocked Tan. He thought all was rosy
in the garden.

Nothing confirmed of course until all parties meet up after the season but it
looks promising. He has ADMITTED some of HIS ideas were not too well thought
out :ayatollah: :ayatollah: :ayatollah: :ayatollah: :ayatollah: :ayatollah:


Great news if true. Always thought that whilst Tan could push through ANY change he wants as it's his cash, decent, considered and polite negotiation is the ONLY way forward for the fans to influence said changes and achieve a middle ground.

This FB group below pushes exactly that sentiment and also contains links to the badges and shirts proposed by fans back in the summer:

http://www.facebook.com/groups/325859610826802/

Re: TAN HAS CALLED A MEETING

Fri Feb 15, 2013 12:57 pm

taffyapple wrote:
Angry Man wrote:
taffyapple wrote:
Angry Man wrote:A bit of blue and the smallest bluebird on the badge is still not enough in my opinion. A full blue shirt and a bluebird on the badge and not the dragon is the only way forward.

If Tan didn't realise that the so-called rebrand was not going down well with supporters then who the hell has been feeding him the positive bollox..? He can't be looking on the fans forums then or even talking to anyone at ground level!!!

In all fairness the guy 'could' have been worshipped as a God in these parts but the re-brand has just put him on par with other chairman whos taken the supporters for a ride over the years.

Turn back blue and you watch the positivity light get ever so brighter!!!


Yeh but it wasnt the rebrand stopped you going!!

Therapy on Saturdays is it? :lol: :lol:


Oh yes it was and if you disagree then do you have proof that your view is correct..? If I'm honest with you staying away is killing me really mainly because of the social side of going to the football with the boys but I will standby my view until any change happens.


Classic :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:


Whats so funny about that :? Strange how tt seems that that me being truthful makes you laugh :?

Re: TAN HAS CALLED A MEETING

Fri Feb 15, 2013 1:05 pm

I think its the fact you never went in the first place

Re: TAN HAS CALLED A MEETING

Fri Feb 15, 2013 1:07 pm

Angry Man wrote:A bit of blue and the smallest bluebird on the badge is still not enough in my opinion. A full blue shirt and a bluebird on the badge and not the dragon is the only way forward.

If Tan didn't realise that the so-called rebrand was not going down well with supporters then who the hell has been feeding him the positive bollox..? He can't be looking on the fans forums then or even talking to anyone at ground level!!!

In all fairness the guy 'could' have been worshipped as a God in these parts but the re-brand has just put him on par with other chairman whos taken the supporters for a ride over the years.

Turn back blue and you watch the positivity light get ever so brighter!!!


It won't